I Want Republicans to Lose the Midterms

Not because I want to see Democrats win. Their agenda is destructive, but Republicans need to lose in order to finally get it through their heads that Trump is poison to their party. A month ago they were riding what looked like was going to be a historical red wave. Now, it's more of a puddle, if even that. The House will still likely flip due to redistricting, but by a much smaller margin. The Senate is looking completely out of reach now barring some tidal event back in their favor. Their reversed fortune is likely due to two elements: the Dobbs ruling and Trump's influence over the Senate primaries.

The Dobbs ruling is what it is. GOP voters have been open and honest about wanting Roe overturned for decades. However, I don't think anyone actually expected it to happen, including the GOP leadership, which is why it was such a shock and awe event. Even with Dobbs, though, the Republicans should still be riding a strong election wave, but they aren't. Trump's picks have been toxic to the electorate. Pennsylvania should have been a relatively easy hold, but Trump endorsed the most incompetent Republican candidate in the race and his campaign is a trainwreck. It's so bad he is likely going to lose to a stroke victim who looks and dresses like Shrek. Mastriano, Trump's handpicked gubernatorial candidate in the state who parroted The Big Lie and was at the Capitol Hill riot on January 6th, has been trailing his opponent in every poll. Georgia should have been the easiest pickup for the GOP, but Trumpy Herschel Walker can't form a coherent thought, makes things up out of thin air, and so far refuses to debate his opponent. In Arizona, MAGA Blake Masters is attempting to run away from his political record on abortion, countering his support for a federal personhood law, and it's blowing up in his face. GOP PACs have already started pulling money out of that race. Wisconsin is now also in jeopardy given Ron Johnson's admittance he was part of the fake Electors scheme. Even states like Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida are showing to be more competitive than expected, but I suspect the Republicans will retain those seats in the end. Furthermore, this national toxicity has the potential to destroy several gubernatorial races. Kari Lake in Arizona is as tactless and crass as Trump and is losing her race, which would be a net loss for the GOP. Other competitive races like New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Maine, to name a few are being stunted by the overall environment.

Despite Biden's dismal approval ratings, poor economic climate, and incredibly radical administration, the Republicans look to be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and that's exactly what needs to happen. After these midterms are over the MAGA faithful need a strong wakeup call that blindly following their leader's guidance is destructive and toxic to their party and their agenda. If they emerge from these elections with anything other than a sound and disappointing defeat it may very well carry them into 2024 with Trump as their nominee and that will be the final nail in the coffin. According to polls, over half of Republicans still want Trump to be their nominee in 2024 and make another run at it and this is dangerous because he will get destroyed. Biden will be one and done, regardless of what he says. The party will never let him be renominated, so 2024 should be a strong presidential year for the GOP following Biden and the Democrats really have no strong bench to speak of. Sanders will be too old. Warren is an unlikable shrew. Harris is an imbecile and Buttigieg is milquetoast. They do have one formidable candidate, however, and that is Gavin Newsom. He's young (relatively speaking), attractive, and charismatic and if I were to make a bet today on who the Dem nominee will be it's him. He's the American version of Justin Trudeau and that's what's so scary about his prospects. The Republicans need someone who can make the strong case that Newsom's radical California values are a poor fit for the country and that case won't be made by Trump. His attitude, his antics, and constant negative press will overshadow all of these things and usher Newsom into the White House in a landslide and we'll pay for it dearly.

So yes, I want the Republicans to lose bigly. The Trump faithful will still be there, of course. Nothing will convince them they are lambs to the slaughter, but enough of the rank and file may finally realize Trump is destructive and relegate the remaining hold outs to the extreme wing of their party and purge them from having future significant influence. It needs to happen or the country is doomed in 2024.
People feel very strong about limiting rights and the Dodd decision did that.

We are Americans and we like rights of privacy.


The QOP offers suffering from pregnancy, perceived discussions on race, hostility towards non-binary people and an offering of the 1920’s America.
 
You are against democracy then. You demand that you are lead by people that think exactly like you do and you would terrorize everyone else. That's called Fascism and nothing ever good has ever come from that, Benito.
Fuck you, asshole....If this is what your "democracy" looks like, I'll take my chances with anarchy....At least I know the score then.
 
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I'm going to disagree with a lot of what you say, but I thank you for saying it. Anti-Trump Republicans/Conservatives are under-represented on here. They're still out there in large numbers, though many are being converted to reluctant Trump supporters by seeing what the DNC activists of the DOJ/FBI are doing to him. If you are an anti-Trump Republican/Conservative, I look forward to reading more of your posts.

Trump currently is the GOP leadership, as determined by the voters. The Old Guard, who lost GOP voters to Trump by a comical margin in the 2016 primary, never expected Roe V. Wade to be over-turned, you are spot on about that. Never expected nor particularly wanted it. It gave them an issue to fund raise on, but with a built in excuse to never do anything about it. That's why they kept nominating judges and justices who would not over-turn it. Until Trump.

He didn't even have to nominate ant-abortion activists, just judges who believe that the constitution means what it says.

To kind of condense that, the best campaigners, best fund raisers, and most politically skilled of the GOP are not the Trump supporters. The Trump supporters are less wily politicians, but they beat the establishment Republicans due to Trump's endorsement. Because of their lack of political acumen, the are less likely to defeat the Democrat in the general in November.

You may be right. The DNC agrees with you enough to sink millions of dollars into helping Trump-backed candidates with deceptive ads.

From the perspective of a Trump supporter, my answer would be what good would it do to nominate a Trump-bashing Republican? That he will more likely win? That doesn't help if the establishment guy goes right back to rubber stamping the Democrats' policies. For Trump voters, it is not about electing someone with an (R) after their names, no matter if he is just a Democrat-Lite.

Trump was at heart a third party candidate, liked by voters, but not by Republicans or Democrats. He understood, though, that third party candidates are extremely unlikely to win, so he motivated voters to run the GOP over to him, and then ran for president. Now, he is the GOP. Maybe the old guard should break off into their own party.

I think that is as good an analysis of the upcoming Democratic presidential primary as can be done at this time. But too many things can and likely will change. Remember the sudden turnaround the last Dem primary when a few key black leaders turned South Carolina for Biden.

One thing that I think is likely to bring a YUGE change is that Biden doesn't make it until the end of his first term. He talked about that openly when he announced "his" selection of Harris as VP. I don't see crowbarring Harris out of that office before Biden goes under for the third time, and as a serving president, it will take a lot of coordinated effort to beat her in the primary. That coordinated effort by the DNC to replace her with a white man will be so obvious that it will risk offending their Africa-American base.

Even if Biden doesn't die, the DNC will be accused or racism/sexism/all kinda ism, for opposing Harris in favor of one of those paleface men you mention. If the press turns against them, the Democrats would have nothing.


In a vacuum, with no knowledge of pre-Trump history, that makes sense. But it assumes that if the GOP nominee is not Trump, it will therefore not be a person with constant negative press. When was the last time a GOP presidential nominee did not have constant negative press? I'm guessing Eisenhower, but I don't know that there wasn't constant negative press about him, I just wasn't there to see it.

Yes, Trump's constant negative press is more vicious and far less dependent on what he actually does. But that in itself is a benefit to Trump. Why? Because he knows that the press will attack him no matter what he does. He may not like it, but he doesn't quit because of it, or change what he does.

I disagree with the idea that there is a groups of establishment Republicans supported by the rank and file, who make up the majority of the party, while there is also a fringe group of Trump supporters that can be done away with by the establishment.

Trump supporters are not nearly as stupid or smelly as Agent Strzok believes. We don't support Trump because we worship him or any of that nonsense. We support his policies and overturning Dobbs was a big victory for him.

If the old school GOPers manage to keep Trump out of the primary, with help from the Democratic activists of the DOJ/FBI, he likely will run a self-financed third party campaign. He wouldn't win, but his running would guarantee a Democrat victory.

You didn't mention who you think should be the GOP nominee, if it won't be Trump.
You're trying reason with someone motivated by blind hatred....Won't work.
 
Fuck you, asshole....If this is what your "democracy" looks like, I'll take myy chances with anarchy....At least I know the score then.
If the country collapses and anarchy results for a brief period, sniveling pieces of shit like Vrenn will be cannibalized by ghetto rat hoods before we could even enjoy watching them starve to death.

I would actually welcome a good 6 months of total anarchy. This country needs an enema to clean up leftist genetic garbage.


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Not because I want to see Democrats win. Their agenda is destructive, but Republicans need to lose in order to finally get it through their heads that Trump is poison to their party. A month ago they were riding what looked like was going to be a historical red wave. Now, it's more of a puddle, if even that. The House will still likely flip due to redistricting, but by a much smaller margin. The Senate is looking completely out of reach now barring some tidal event back in their favor. Their reversed fortune is likely due to two elements: the Dobbs ruling and Trump's influence over the Senate primaries.

The Dobbs ruling is what it is. GOP voters have been open and honest about wanting Roe overturned for decades. However, I don't think anyone actually expected it to happen, including the GOP leadership, which is why it was such a shock and awe event. Even with Dobbs, though, the Republicans should still be riding a strong election wave, but they aren't. Trump's picks have been toxic to the electorate. Pennsylvania should have been a relatively easy hold, but Trump endorsed the most incompetent Republican candidate in the race and his campaign is a trainwreck. It's so bad he is likely going to lose to a stroke victim who looks and dresses like Shrek. Mastriano, Trump's handpicked gubernatorial candidate in the state who parroted The Big Lie and was at the Capitol Hill riot on January 6th, has been trailing his opponent in every poll. Georgia should have been the easiest pickup for the GOP, but Trumpy Herschel Walker can't form a coherent thought, makes things up out of thin air, and so far refuses to debate his opponent. In Arizona, MAGA Blake Masters is attempting to run away from his political record on abortion, countering his support for a federal personhood law, and it's blowing up in his face. GOP PACs have already started pulling money out of that race. Wisconsin is now also in jeopardy given Ron Johnson's admittance he was part of the fake Electors scheme. Even states like Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida are showing to be more competitive than expected, but I suspect the Republicans will retain those seats in the end. Furthermore, this national toxicity has the potential to destroy several gubernatorial races. Kari Lake in Arizona is as tactless and crass as Trump and is losing her race, which would be a net loss for the GOP. Other competitive races like New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Maine, to name a few are being stunted by the overall environment.

Despite Biden's dismal approval ratings, poor economic climate, and incredibly radical administration, the Republicans look to be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and that's exactly what needs to happen. After these midterms are over the MAGA faithful need a strong wakeup call that blindly following their leader's guidance is destructive and toxic to their party and their agenda. If they emerge from these elections with anything other than a sound and disappointing defeat it may very well carry them into 2024 with Trump as their nominee and that will be the final nail in the coffin. According to polls, over half of Republicans still want Trump to be their nominee in 2024 and make another run at it and this is dangerous because he will get destroyed. Biden will be one and done, regardless of what he says. The party will never let him be renominated, so 2024 should be a strong presidential year for the GOP following Biden and the Democrats really have no strong bench to speak of. Sanders will be too old. Warren is an unlikable shrew. Harris is an imbecile and Buttigieg is milquetoast. They do have one formidable candidate, however, and that is Gavin Newsom. He's young (relatively speaking), attractive, and charismatic and if I were to make a bet today on who the Dem nominee will be it's him. He's the American version of Justin Trudeau and that's what's so scary about his prospects. The Republicans need someone who can make the strong case that Newsom's radical California values are a poor fit for the country and that case won't be made by Trump. His attitude, his antics, and constant negative press will overshadow all of these things and usher Newsom into the White House in a landslide and we'll pay for it dearly.

So yes, I want the Republicans to lose bigly. The Trump faithful will still be there, of course. Nothing will convince them they are lambs to the slaughter, but enough of the rank and file may finally realize Trump is destructive and relegate the remaining hold outs to the extreme wing of their party and purge them from having future significant influence. It needs to happen or the country is doomed in 2024.

Some of you actually believe what the media is selling you, and that is sad after everything they have sold us in at the very least, the last 6 years.

People that vote are allowed to love, hate Trump; maybe lower it down a little and just like, or dislike. But to believe that magically the vast majority of the American people went from thinking we were screwed with the Left, now believe they are AOK, is just the media selling you a bill of goods for clicks. Little or nothing has changed, most of all, the perception of the American people.

Anyone with the correct wording, can get the outcome they desire in any poll they wish; by the way they word the question, or by the demographic they poll. Been there, done that! The only question everyone has to ask themselves is---------> which polls were taken more honestly, those before, or those since.

If you were an MSM producer, how would you gin up interest in what would seem a blow out? I will give you 3 guesses, and the 1st 2 do not count!

REALITY--------->to ever believe that the GOP was going to conclusively take back the Senate was a stretch. They COULD take it back, but if you were a betting person with knowledge, you would vote in the negative, but not be surprised if they did, keeping your bet minimal. The House------------->they are going to run the Democrats out of town, and in most purple states, the Left is going to lose badly in local elections. If that is not good enough for you, then I suggest you help by knocking on doors.

Remember this------------>the Left needs DJT more than the GOP does in 2022, because that is what they are trying to run against, even though his name appears no place on the ballot. They will not run on their policies, but instead will run on Trump's foibles, that they created for him out of thin air. Such confidence they have in how they steer our country, and that should tell you something!!
 
If the country collapses and anarchy results for a brief period, sniveling pieces of shit like Vrenn will be cannibalized by ghetto rat hoods before we could even enjoy watching them starve to death.

I would actually welcome a good 6 months of total anarchy. This country needs an enema to clean up leftist genetic garbage.

Except that the "anarchy" you speak of isn't that of Spooner, Rothbard, & Rand.

If The State suddenly went away, then the urban feral animals you describe would be fair game to be shot on sight.....There'd be no burning, looting and pillaging, as the people would step in where The State stepped out.
 
Not because I want to see Democrats win. Their agenda is destructive, but Republicans need to lose in order to finally get it through their heads that Trump is poison to their party. A month ago they were riding what looked like was going to be a historical red wave. Now, it's more of a puddle, if even that. The House will still likely flip due to redistricting, but by a much smaller margin. The Senate is looking completely out of reach now barring some tidal event back in their favor. Their reversed fortune is likely due to two elements: the Dobbs ruling and Trump's influence over the Senate primaries.

The Dobbs ruling is what it is. GOP voters have been open and honest about wanting Roe overturned for decades. However, I don't think anyone actually expected it to happen, including the GOP leadership, which is why it was such a shock and awe event. Even with Dobbs, though, the Republicans should still be riding a strong election wave, but they aren't. Trump's picks have been toxic to the electorate. Pennsylvania should have been a relatively easy hold, but Trump endorsed the most incompetent Republican candidate in the race and his campaign is a trainwreck. It's so bad he is likely going to lose to a stroke victim who looks and dresses like Shrek. Mastriano, Trump's handpicked gubernatorial candidate in the state who parroted The Big Lie and was at the Capitol Hill riot on January 6th, has been trailing his opponent in every poll. Georgia should have been the easiest pickup for the GOP, but Trumpy Herschel Walker can't form a coherent thought, makes things up out of thin air, and so far refuses to debate his opponent. In Arizona, MAGA Blake Masters is attempting to run away from his political record on abortion, countering his support for a federal personhood law, and it's blowing up in his face. GOP PACs have already started pulling money out of that race. Wisconsin is now also in jeopardy given Ron Johnson's admittance he was part of the fake Electors scheme. Even states like Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida are showing to be more competitive than expected, but I suspect the Republicans will retain those seats in the end. Furthermore, this national toxicity has the potential to destroy several gubernatorial races. Kari Lake in Arizona is as tactless and crass as Trump and is losing her race, which would be a net loss for the GOP. Other competitive races like New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Maine, to name a few are being stunted by the overall environment.

Despite Biden's dismal approval ratings, poor economic climate, and incredibly radical administration, the Republicans look to be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and that's exactly what needs to happen. After these midterms are over the MAGA faithful need a strong wakeup call that blindly following their leader's guidance is destructive and toxic to their party and their agenda. If they emerge from these elections with anything other than a sound and disappointing defeat it may very well carry them into 2024 with Trump as their nominee and that will be the final nail in the coffin. According to polls, over half of Republicans still want Trump to be their nominee in 2024 and make another run at it and this is dangerous because he will get destroyed. Biden will be one and done, regardless of what he says. The party will never let him be renominated, so 2024 should be a strong presidential year for the GOP following Biden and the Democrats really have no strong bench to speak of. Sanders will be too old. Warren is an unlikable shrew. Harris is an imbecile and Buttigieg is milquetoast. They do have one formidable candidate, however, and that is Gavin Newsom. He's young (relatively speaking), attractive, and charismatic and if I were to make a bet today on who the Dem nominee will be it's him. He's the American version of Justin Trudeau and that's what's so scary about his prospects. The Republicans need someone who can make the strong case that Newsom's radical California values are a poor fit for the country and that case won't be made by Trump. His attitude, his antics, and constant negative press will overshadow all of these things and usher Newsom into the White House in a landslide and we'll pay for it dearly.

So yes, I want the Republicans to lose bigly. The Trump faithful will still be there, of course. Nothing will convince them they are lambs to the slaughter, but enough of the rank and file may finally realize Trump is destructive and relegate the remaining hold outs to the extreme wing of their party and purge them from having future significant influence. It needs to happen or the country is doomed in 2024.
Trump endorsed candidates are like 146-7.

You seem out of touch with reality.
 
Except that the "anarchy" you speak of isn't that of Spooner, Rothbard, & Rand.

If The State suddenly went away, then the urban feral animals you describe would be fair game to be shot on sight.....There'd be no burning, looting and pillaging, as the people would step in where The State stepped out.
I think many cities would burn. I would not step in to stop the carnage.

Once they had looted and destroyed everything not defended by armed inhabitants, the would be shot trying to raid the suburbs and would probably burn the houses down where people attempted to defend their homes alone. In more conservative suburbs you might find people band together and resist them at least, but as far as the hardcore bed wetter urban areas where these ridiculous freaks of nature exist go, they're already dead and don't know it. They hate the police with a passion and don't realize that's the only reason they still exist.

It's all but inevitable at this point. We've reached critical mass of stupid.


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Trump endorsed candidates are like 146-7.

You seem out of touch with reality.
In the primary, which isn’t the general election. In the general elections they aren’t faring so well. You are the one out of touch with reality.
 
I think many cities would burn. I would not step in to stop the carnage.

Once they had looted and destroyed everything not defended by armed inhabitants, the would be shot trying to raid the suburbs and would probably burn the houses down where people attempted to defend their homes alone. In more conservative suburbs you might find people band together and resist them at least, but as far as the hardcore bed wetter urban areas where these ridiculous freaks of nature exist go, they're already dead and don't know it. They hate the police with a passion and don't realize that's the only reason they still exist.

It's all but inevitable at this point. We've reached critical mass of stupid.


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I see The Walking Dead as an allegory.
 
Not because I want to see Democrats win. Their agenda is destructive, but Republicans need to lose in order to finally get it through their heads that Trump is poison to their party. A month ago they were riding what looked like was going to be a historical red wave. Now, it's more of a puddle, if even that. The House will still likely flip due to redistricting, but by a much smaller margin. The Senate is looking completely out of reach now barring some tidal event back in their favor. Their reversed fortune is likely due to two elements: the Dobbs ruling and Trump's influence over the Senate primaries.

The Dobbs ruling is what it is. GOP voters have been open and honest about wanting Roe overturned for decades. However, I don't think anyone actually expected it to happen, including the GOP leadership, which is why it was such a shock and awe event. Even with Dobbs, though, the Republicans should still be riding a strong election wave, but they aren't. Trump's picks have been toxic to the electorate. Pennsylvania should have been a relatively easy hold, but Trump endorsed the most incompetent Republican candidate in the race and his campaign is a trainwreck. It's so bad he is likely going to lose to a stroke victim who looks and dresses like Shrek. Mastriano, Trump's handpicked gubernatorial candidate in the state who parroted The Big Lie and was at the Capitol Hill riot on January 6th, has been trailing his opponent in every poll. Georgia should have been the easiest pickup for the GOP, but Trumpy Herschel Walker can't form a coherent thought, makes things up out of thin air, and so far refuses to debate his opponent. In Arizona, MAGA Blake Masters is attempting to run away from his political record on abortion, countering his support for a federal personhood law, and it's blowing up in his face. GOP PACs have already started pulling money out of that race. Wisconsin is now also in jeopardy given Ron Johnson's admittance he was part of the fake Electors scheme. Even states like Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida are showing to be more competitive than expected, but I suspect the Republicans will retain those seats in the end. Furthermore, this national toxicity has the potential to destroy several gubernatorial races. Kari Lake in Arizona is as tactless and crass as Trump and is losing her race, which would be a net loss for the GOP. Other competitive races like New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Maine, to name a few are being stunted by the overall environment.

Despite Biden's dismal approval ratings, poor economic climate, and incredibly radical administration, the Republicans look to be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and that's exactly what needs to happen. After these midterms are over the MAGA faithful need a strong wakeup call that blindly following their leader's guidance is destructive and toxic to their party and their agenda. If they emerge from these elections with anything other than a sound and disappointing defeat it may very well carry them into 2024 with Trump as their nominee and that will be the final nail in the coffin. According to polls, over half of Republicans still want Trump to be their nominee in 2024 and make another run at it and this is dangerous because he will get destroyed. Biden will be one and done, regardless of what he says. The party will never let him be renominated, so 2024 should be a strong presidential year for the GOP following Biden and the Democrats really have no strong bench to speak of. Sanders will be too old. Warren is an unlikable shrew. Harris is an imbecile and Buttigieg is milquetoast. They do have one formidable candidate, however, and that is Gavin Newsom. He's young (relatively speaking), attractive, and charismatic and if I were to make a bet today on who the Dem nominee will be it's him. He's the American version of Justin Trudeau and that's what's so scary about his prospects. The Republicans need someone who can make the strong case that Newsom's radical California values are a poor fit for the country and that case won't be made by Trump. His attitude, his antics, and constant negative press will overshadow all of these things and usher Newsom into the White House in a landslide and we'll pay for it dearly.

So yes, I want the Republicans to lose bigly. The Trump faithful will still be there, of course. Nothing will convince them they are lambs to the slaughter, but enough of the rank and file may finally realize Trump is destructive and relegate the remaining hold outs to the extreme wing of their party and purge them from having future significant influence. It needs to happen or the country is doomed in 2024.

I know a clinic where you can get experimental treatments for your Trump Derangement Syndrome……
 
Except I'm not the one burning it to the ground. You have your ire pointed in the wrong direction.
You honestly think Donald Trump is the danger to America? Have you not noticed that domestically and globally everything went into the shitter when President Potato and his gang of goons took power? You and the rest of the irrational Trump haters need to open your eyes and analyze what is going on in plain view. You are a smart guy, I know you can put it together.
 
Fuck you, asshole....If this is what your "democracy" looks like, I'll take my chances with anarchy....At least I know the score then.

Welcome to Yemen.
 
If the country collapses and anarchy results for a brief period, sniveling pieces of shit like Vrenn will be cannibalized by ghetto rat hoods before we could even enjoy watching them starve to death.

I would actually welcome a good 6 months of total anarchy. This country needs an enema to clean up leftist genetic garbage.


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And you would be one of the first to fire on those that you believe differ from you. I took an oath 5 times to prevent you from ever getting the chance. Your Fascist Leader already got his answer on whether the Military would blindly follow him or not. They told him "No". We don't follow illegal orders no matter who issues them. And if you take up arms, our oath means that we will defend against you. You may get one day of anarchy in a very small isolated area but that's about it. Fire on the Civilians or Military and your Anarchy ends quickly.
 
As though what will eventuate from your course is any better.

Spoiler alert: It's not.

Yemen has the laws that you seek including the wide open firearms laws (or the lack of). Depending on what day of the week it is, depends on what fringe group is in charge at that very moment. You want that, go for it but I suggest you move there. We won't tolerate that here.
 

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