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Just over $13 million.
U.S.: car sales per year 1951-2023 | Statista
How many new cars are sold in the US each year? Car sales decreased in the past years. Around 3 million cars were sold in 2021, a number dipped in 2022.www.statista.com
I totally don't understand why many of you don't comprehend the below data that comes from the sources I provide the links to.
I'm not making these numbers up!
The EPA plans to have 17,245,800 cars be EVs in 2032 and 5,498,953 medium duty trucks.
These EVs will be using 526 billion kWh/ year. Which is 13% more than we used in 2022.
Where will that additional electricity come from?
Where will the nearly $900 Trillion come from to build the additional power plants to generate the over half a trillion kWh for the EVs?
But I've not seen anyone in the MSM, on this board, anywhere make this point: Where will nearly $900 trillion to construct the nearly 1,400 more power plants?
PLUS that idiot Biden has guaranteed to "rid fossil fuels" which provide the USA over 60% of the electricity used today! Where will that money come from?
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM
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I totally don't understand why many of you don't comprehend the below data that comes from the sources I provide the links to.
I'm not making these numbers up!
The EPA plans to have 17,245,800 cars be EVs in 2032 and 5,498,953 medium duty trucks.
These EVs will be using 526 billion kWh/ year. Which is 13% more than we used in 2022.
Where will that additional electricity come from?
Where will the nearly $900 Trillion come from to build the additional power plants to generate the over half a trillion kWh for the EVs?
But I've not seen anyone in the MSM, on this board, anywhere make this point: Where will nearly $900 trillion to construct the nearly 1,400 more power plants?
PLUS that idiot Biden has guaranteed to "rid fossil fuels" which provide the USA over 60% of the electricity used today! Where will that money come from?
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM
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Do any of you EV lovers know how much a battery for a Tesla or the Ford E Truck weighs?... look it up... if you think our roads are bad now just wait till everyone is forced to buy an EV....
So the bigger point is to destroy America as we know it by ONLY having available public transportation with movement authorized by genetically implantedYou are missing the point. The end game is to get rid of private forms of transportation. Not having enough electricity is a feature of the system, not a bug.
I agree 100% with your observation.Also, what most people do not realize is---------->that when you charge at home, most all states as of yet do NOT have a road tax built into the charging system. Therefore, as of this moment, EV's have an unfair cost comparison to regular vehicles. There is not one person on this board, including Democrats I might add; that believes this to be the norm for very long. SOMEHOW they will extract road taxes from these EV's, or the road system will surely collapse! Right now, you are getting INCENTIVES and work arounds to make them cheaper to run. At some point, the government is going to hit these with the reality of taxes!
So the bigger point is to destroy America as we know it by ONLY having available public transportation with movement authorized by genetically implanted
identity chips, that authorize only approved use of the EV to travel where and when authorized.
The point you are missing is how will the electricity that is needed that comes from electric power plants be both modified and built for the additional costs ranging from
WT- $1,661.00 to Solar -$2,921.00 to nuclear -$5,148.00 per kWh or from $874 trillion to $2.709 quadrillion? That money has to come from somewhere and
the only source are taxes!
Still it just an estimate of what they hope to achieve. So they are estimating for the future like in 2030. So there is time to invest in making more electrical power. It the demand is there then they will build it.
We are talking about a new way to make money here and there are some who are good at it.
Demand, if it there then someone will try and provide a way to meet that demand.
Hybrid vehicles can use both sources and the reason why is because if your run out of power in an electric car and no source to power it then you are in trouble. So they did the Hybrid thing to address that.
Once upon a time someone did invent a vehicle that ran on fuel that was not readily available like it is today. In 1886 how many gas stations were there. Now how many are there currently.
If the demand is there, then there will be investors who will try to meet that demand in the hope of making big money. The American dream.
The argument that the current grid cannot support a hypothetical number of vehicles is a limited argument because there are not that many electrical vehicles on the road. But if demand increases then someone will make it available in order to meet that demand.
US coal plants are shutting down or converting to gas. Times change and you either adapt or shut down
I for one believe that Americans can meet the increase demand. Failure is not an option.
That information should make you and all your other crazy buddies very happy. If it's impossible, as you claim, why are you whining about it? If it can't be done anyway, why are you so worried about it?,
Unless those are the only vehicles available...Here's the thing: The Gubmint cannot force anyone to buy an electric vehicle. Cannot. President Biden and his minions have no control over market conditions after he is dead. If people want EV's they will buy them and if they don't, they won't. Simple as that. Except maybe in California. They might make it a felony to buy an SUV with an ICE. Fuck them very much.
Electricity is produced by PUBLIC UTILITIES. They are in a very privileged position in our society. If they determine, for example, that they will need to build additional generation capacity, they figure out what it will cost and present that to the state Public Utilities Commission (or whatever it's called in your state), and that PUC will allow the utilities to borrow the money or raise their rates for the necessary facilities. It will all happen quite slowly, so there will be plenty of time for this process to go forward. And the higher electricity rates might affect whether people are keen to buy more EV's.
If we are lucky, the Feds will scale back on the bizarre and neurotic regulations w/r/t nuclear power, and some Nuke plants will be built to cover the additional 'tricity needs.
The OP is trying to frighten people about stuff that might be a "big deal," but will easily be handled by our institutions at the time.
Where did that number come from? I get more like 125 billion, a factor of 5 lower.
And the grid can handle that.
Why Electric Vehicles Won't Break the Grid
Though conservatives have attacked California officials for asking electric vehicle owners to unplug during a heat wave, experts say more electric cars won’t topple the power gridwww.scientificamerican.com
The problem is that there ARE other alternatives that CAN be done and won't be done because of the misdirection of EVs.
The reason EVs are bad is only because of the heavy, expensive, dirty, slow, short lived batteries.
If we instead used hydrogen fuel cells, burning hydrogen, or bio fuels like ethanol, palm oil, etc., then we can convert existing vehicles to no longer pollute at all.
Think of it as recycling our current cars instead of throwing them away.
Unless those are the only vehicles available...
I totally don't understand why many of you don't comprehend the below data that comes from the sources I provide the links to.
I'm not making these numbers up!
The EPA plans to have 17,245,800 cars be EVs in 2032 and 5,498,953 medium duty trucks.
These EVs will be using 526 billion kWh/ year. Which is 13% more than we used in 2022.
Where will that additional electricity come from?
Where will the nearly $900 Trillion come from to build the additional power plants to generate the over half a trillion kWh for the EVs?
But I've not seen anyone in the MSM, on this board, anywhere make this point: Where will nearly $900 trillion to construct the nearly 1,400 more power plants?
PLUS that idiot Biden has guaranteed to "rid fossil fuels" which provide the USA over 60% of the electricity used today! Where will that money come from?
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM
View attachment 805871
If we instead used hydrogen fuel cells, burning hydrogen, or bio fuels like ethanol, palm oil
How is wasting all that energy going to help anything?
Sad but I agree with you! With the EVs of the future travel will be restricted to acceptable areas for your status...They want this, not enough power. Stay at home. It's all about control.
Still it just an estimate of what they hope to achieve. So they are estimating for the future like in 2030. So there is time to invest in making more electrical power. It the demand is there then they will build it.
We are talking about a new way to make money here and there are some who are good at it.
Demand, if it there then someone will try and provide a way to meet that demand.
Hybrid vehicles can use both sources and the reason why is because if your run out of power in an electric car and no source to power it then you are in trouble. So they did the Hybrid thing to address that.
Once upon a time someone did invent a vehicle that ran on fuel that was not readily available like it is today. In 1886 how many gas stations were there. Now how many are there currently.
If the demand is there, then there will be investors who will try to meet that demand in the hope of making big money. The American dream.
The argument that the current grid cannot support a hypothetical number of vehicles is a limited argument because there are not that many electrical vehicles on the road. But if demand increases then someone will make it available in order to meet that demand.
US coal plants are shutting down or converting to gas. Times change and you either adapt or shut down
I for one believe that Americans can meet the increase demand. Failure is not an option.
Since light hydrogen ICE vehicles weigh half as much as battery EVs, and there is no waste from transformers, power lines, etc., you use less than a third the energy.
Nor is it bad to "waste energy" if it comes from bio fuels, because bio fuels absorb more pollutants while growing, than they emit again when burned.
Burning hydrogen, palm oil, or ethanol, makes the air cleaner, with less CO2 than it had before.
