I Think My School District Just Turned Me Into A Trump Voter

[MisterBeale]

It is stories like yours and the OPs that convinces me that if my kids were still school age, there is no way in hell I would put them in most pubic schools these days. The ones that are still educating kids with real subjects and content are few and far between. Most do much more indoctrinating than educating. I would figure out some way to stay home full time and home school them.

No one should put their kids in public school if they are unhappy with the local district. Home schooling and private schooling are totally legal options. Keep in mind that public schools have to be everything to everyone......they are the default position originally created to educate the children of those farmers and factory workers who could not afford private schools or tutors.

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

While I agree with your goals for education, I disagree that public schools are "indoctrinating" anyone. When the right wants to destroy a public institution, they start by casting it as some sort of liberal bastion out to destroy the country. The current vilification of the public school system is entirely reasonable, on the grounds that they are not providing a quality education, but not on the grounds that it's liberal indoctrination.

I know in MA 90% of teachers are Leftists. Cannot speak for other states.

Define "Leftists".

you

 

[bodecea]

So, if this is so, why aren't people like you of the conservative republican persuasion going into teaching to swing the pendulum?

You assume way too much.

But, to answer your question...those who can, do. Those who can't....teach.

Ah....so that sounds just like the excuse conservative republicans give for any career they cannot succeed in. I hear it a lot about those of us who make a career in the military too. Couldn't make it as a teacher, eh?

 

[Dragonlady]

It is stories like yours and the OPs that convinces me that if my kids were still school age, there is no way in hell I would put them in most pubic schools these days. The ones that are still educating kids with real subjects and content are few and far between. Most do much more indoctrinating than educating. I would figure out some way to stay home full time and home school them.

No one should put their kids in public school if they are unhappy with the local district. Home schooling and private schooling are totally legal options. Keep in mind that public schools have to be everything to everyone......they are the default position originally created to educate the children of those farmers and factory workers who could not afford private schools or tutors.

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

How many times have you sat in a school classroom and watched a teacher "indoctrinate"? What was that teacher "indoctrinating" about? What did you do to either inquire about or try to stop that "indoctrination"?

Teachers indoctrinate students not to hate blacks, Hispanics, the handicapped, gays and non Christians.

That is why conservatives homeschool

I noticed you didn’t mention Jews. How interesting.

Jews are covered under the term "non Christians". We had an entire English class around why hating Jews is wrong which started while we were studying "The Merchant of Venice". It detailed the abuses of the Inquisition, and ended with "Adolf Hilter", when I was in high school.

 

[bodecea]

I have two kids in school and the teachers are terrible. Your case is really awful. I am an Independent but I cannot stand the illogic of the Left. My daughter's friend asked to use the ladies room and the teacher said no, you have to use the gender neutral bathroom because it is closest. Now that bathroom is safe with one toilet and a lock but the girl felt uncomfortable for some reason using a room that boys can use too so she asked to go to the ladies room again and was sent to the prinicipal. That girl's mom went ape nuts. The mom was told her daughter needs sensitivity training. LMAO.

If that was my kid, I would have been livid and that situation is tiny compared to what happened to you. Good luck, sir.

It is stories like yours and the OPs that convinces me that if my kids were still school age, there is no way in hell I would put them in most pubic schools these days. The ones that are still educating kids with real subjects and content are few and far between. Most do much more indoctrinating than educating. I would figure out some way to stay home full time and home school them.

No one should put their kids in public school if they are unhappy with the local district. Home schooling and private schooling are totally legal options. Keep in mind that public schools have to be everything to everyone......they are the default position originally created to educate the children of those farmers and factory workers who could not afford private schools or tutors.

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

I'm going to, again, focus on this:

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate.
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As long as we're talking about our standard system of institutionalized cookie-cutter factories that we force kids into en masse, this statement is an oxymoron. By their very nature such an institution must indoctrinate. It has no other way to function. Requiring that X number of kids sit still and memorize the same rote plan that's been approved by some "we know best" officials at the same time in the same way, is ALL about indoctrination. It requires that the individual parts of that classroom be treated as drones with no individual traits, which are continually suppressed. And it begins with that weirdo flag-fetish prayer which, already first thing in the morning, gets the word out in no uncertain terms that individuality will not be tolerated, which is exactly why I oppose it.

I mean this is the very nature of the beast. If you're sending your kid to school you're sending them to Indoctrination. By design. So it's inevitable that the institution, and eventually the teachers, are going to have to lean on some kind of one-size-fits-all guidelines even if that's not what their idealism took them into teaching to do.

And it's always idealism --- they certainly didn't go into that line of work for the money.

Agreed. Government compulsory schooling needs to be abolished.

This is what the NAZIS were doing in the Slavic territory they conquered.....this is what slave owners did with their slaves....this is what patriarchal societies (like Afghanistan) does with their girls.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, I live in Amarillo

Can y'all please do something to get all those feed lots away from town? The smell of cow and pig shit is better in small doses.

Actually, that fragrance that gently wafts through the air smelling like fresh manure doesn't come from Amarillo. Or Canyon (15 miles south). It actually comes from Hereford, which is a full 45 miles away from Amarillo. When the wind is right and blowing hard enough, that is when it starts to get fragrant.

I remember when I first moved here, and I had just finished setting up my apartment, when all of a sudden, it started to smell like a stockyard around the place. I went nuts for the next couple of hours trying to figure out where the smell was coming from. Later, when I was talking with a friend, I told them about the strange happening. They laughed, and said that every once in a while, the wind would blow the smell up from Hereford.

They then said "it smells like money".

And, I gotta say, when you get within 10 miles of Hereford, no matter what the wind is doing, you can smell the stockyards. I think they are supposed to be some of the largest in the USA.

 

[Thinker101]

No one should put their kids in public school if they are unhappy with the local district. Home schooling and private schooling are totally legal options. Keep in mind that public schools have to be everything to everyone......they are the default position originally created to educate the children of those farmers and factory workers who could not afford private schools or tutors.

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

How many times have you sat in a school classroom and watched a teacher "indoctrinate"? What was that teacher "indoctrinating" about? What did you do to either inquire about or try to stop that "indoctrination"?

Teachers indoctrinate students not to hate blacks, Hispanics, the handicapped, gays and non Christians.

That is why conservatives homeschool

I noticed you didn’t mention Jews. How interesting.

Jews are covered under the term "non Christians". We had an entire English class around why hating Jews is wrong which started while we were studying "The Merchant of Venice". It detailed the abuses of the Inquisition, and ended with "Adolf Hilter", when I was in high school.

Yea, they eliminated that class, the illegal kids couldn't keep up.

 

[bodecea]

No one should put their kids in public school if they are unhappy with the local district. Home schooling and private schooling are totally legal options. Keep in mind that public schools have to be everything to everyone......they are the default position originally created to educate the children of those farmers and factory workers who could not afford private schools or tutors.

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

How many times have you sat in a school classroom and watched a teacher "indoctrinate"? What was that teacher "indoctrinating" about? What did you do to either inquire about or try to stop that "indoctrination"?

Teachers indoctrinate students not to hate blacks, Hispanics, the handicapped, gays and non Christians.

That is why conservatives homeschool

I noticed you didn’t mention Jews. How interesting.

Jews are covered under the term "non Christians". We had an entire English class around why hating Jews is wrong which started while we were studying "The Merchant of Venice". It detailed the abuses of the Inquisition, and ended with "Adolf Hilter", when I was in high school.

I guess any school teaching "The Diary of Anne Frank" is indoctrinating their students.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No one should put their kids in public school if they are unhappy with the local district. Home schooling and private schooling are totally legal options. Keep in mind that public schools have to be everything to everyone......they are the default position originally created to educate the children of those farmers and factory workers who could not afford private schools or tutors.

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

How many times have you sat in a school classroom and watched a teacher "indoctrinate"? What was that teacher "indoctrinating" about? What did you do to either inquire about or try to stop that "indoctrination"?

Teachers indoctrinate students not to hate blacks, Hispanics, the handicapped, gays and non Christians.

That is why conservatives homeschool

I noticed you didn’t mention Jews. How interesting.

Jews are covered under the term "non Christians". We had an entire English class around why hating Jews is wrong which started while we were studying "The Merchant of Venice". It detailed the abuses of the Inquisition, and ended with "Adolf Hilter", when I was in high school.

What year was that? The curriculum has changed drastically

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

How many times have you sat in a school classroom and watched a teacher "indoctrinate"? What was that teacher "indoctrinating" about? What did you do to either inquire about or try to stop that "indoctrination"?

Teachers indoctrinate students not to hate blacks, Hispanics, the handicapped, gays and non Christians.

That is why conservatives homeschool

I noticed you didn’t mention Jews. How interesting.

Jews are covered under the term "non Christians". We had an entire English class around why hating Jews is wrong which started while we were studying "The Merchant of Venice". It detailed the abuses of the Inquisition, and ended with "Adolf Hilter", when I was in high school.

I guess any school teaching "The Diary of Anne Frank" is indoctrinating their students.

What school still does that?

 

[Olde Europe]

Point being, indoctrination is part of the definition of institutionalizing schooling. They go together like milk and cereal.

To be honest, it pains me to read such unadulterated claptrap from you. Really... Seeing to it that enough discipline is being maintained so as to have some learning going on in class is now "indoctrination"? That's ludicrous. Perhaps you should visit a school in North Korea, if you get the chance. The entire nonsensical, paranoid teachers' conspiracy to indoctrinate students, nation-wide, is also off topic. Here we're discussing an instance of possibly hysterical security precaution hitting g5000's son. That matter is certainly silly enough on its own, without your "input".

 

[Dragonlady]

So, if this is so, why aren't people like you of the conservative republican persuasion going into teaching to swing the pendulum?

You assume way too much.

But, to answer your question...those who can, do. Those who can't....teach.

Ah....so that sounds just like the excuse conservative republicans give for any career they cannot succeed in. I hear it a lot about those of us who make a career in the military too. Couldn't make it as a teacher, eh?

The former Premier of Ontario, Mike Harris, was fired from his one and only teaching job for incompetence. He ended up teaching golf at a local golf club. Guess he's not much of a golfer either.

So I guess those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. And those who can't teach, become conservative politicians.

It explains a lot.

 

[ABikerSailor]

So, if this is so, why aren't people like you of the conservative republican persuasion going into teaching to swing the pendulum?

You assume way too much.

But, to answer your question...those who can, do. Those who can't....teach.

Ah....so that sounds just like the excuse conservative republicans give for any career they cannot succeed in. I hear it a lot about those of us who make a career in the military too. Couldn't make it as a teacher, eh?

You know, I used to have the same idea as well. I used to think that because it was really easy for me to enlist, it was just as easy for everyone else.

Then, my final tour in the Navy, I was working as LPO and Head Classifier at Amarillo MEPS. Saw lots of people who wanted to get in who didn't qualify for one reason or the other, medical, lack of education, poor test scores, etc. Came to find out that of all the people in America who are 18 to 35, only 30 percent of them are qualified to join the military.

I look at my service and the service of others as something that marks them as a slight cut above the general population if they were honorably discharged or retired.

 

[bodecea]

So, if this is so, why aren't people like you of the conservative republican persuasion going into teaching to swing the pendulum?

You assume way too much.

But, to answer your question...those who can, do. Those who can't....teach.

Ah....so that sounds just like the excuse conservative republicans give for any career they cannot succeed in. I hear it a lot about those of us who make a career in the military too. Couldn't make it as a teacher, eh?

You know, I used to have the same idea as well. I used to think that because it was really easy for me to enlist, it was just as easy for everyone else.

Then, my final tour in the Navy, I was working as LPO and Head Classifier at Amarillo MEPS. Saw lots of people who wanted to get in who didn't qualify for one reason or the other, medical, lack of education, poor test scores, etc. Came to find out that of all the people in America who are 18 to 35, only 30 percent of them are qualified to join the military.

I look at my service and the service of others as something that marks them as a slight cut above the general population if they were honorably discharged or retired.

I agree, but on many occasion, even here, I've had conservative republicans say I made the military a career because "I couldn't make it in the real world".

 

[rightwinger]

It is stories like yours and the OPs that convinces me that if my kids were still school age, there is no way in hell I would put them in most pubic schools these days. The ones that are still educating kids with real subjects and content are few and far between. Most do much more indoctrinating than educating. I would figure out some way to stay home full time and home school them.

No one should put their kids in public school if they are unhappy with the local district. Home schooling and private schooling are totally legal options. Keep in mind that public schools have to be everything to everyone......they are the default position originally created to educate the children of those farmers and factory workers who could not afford private schools or tutors.

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

How many times have you sat in a school classroom and watched a teacher "indoctrinate"? What was that teacher "indoctrinating" about? What did you do to either inquire about or try to stop that "indoctrination"?

Teachers indoctrinate students not to hate blacks, Hispanics, the handicapped, gays and non Christians.

That is why conservatives homeschool

I noticed you didn’t mention Jews. How interesting.

Do you understand what a Non Christian is?

 

[Dragonlady]

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

How many times have you sat in a school classroom and watched a teacher "indoctrinate"? What was that teacher "indoctrinating" about? What did you do to either inquire about or try to stop that "indoctrination"?

Teachers indoctrinate students not to hate blacks, Hispanics, the handicapped, gays and non Christians.

That is why conservatives homeschool

I noticed you didn’t mention Jews. How interesting.

Jews are covered under the term "non Christians". We had an entire English class around why hating Jews is wrong which started while we were studying "The Merchant of Venice". It detailed the abuses of the Inquisition, and ended with "Adolf Hilter", when I was in high school.

What year was that? The curriculum has changed drastically

John F. Kennedy was still President. My oldest grandson just turned 30. I would hope the curriculum would have changed drastically. So has what a person needs to know to succeed.

 

[Pogo]

It is stories like yours and the OPs that convinces me that if my kids were still school age, there is no way in hell I would put them in most pubic schools these days. The ones that are still educating kids with real subjects and content are few and far between. Most do much more indoctrinating than educating. I would figure out some way to stay home full time and home school them.

No one should put their kids in public school if they are unhappy with the local district. Home schooling and private schooling are totally legal options. Keep in mind that public schools have to be everything to everyone......they are the default position originally created to educate the children of those farmers and factory workers who could not afford private schools or tutors.

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

How many times have you sat in a school classroom and watched a teacher "indoctrinate"? What was that teacher "indoctrinating" about? What did you do to either inquire about or try to stop that "indoctrination"?

Teachers indoctrinate students not to hate blacks, Hispanics, the handicapped, gays and non Christians.

That is why conservatives homeschool

Maybe he means the "indoctrination" in Texas where the history books called "slavery" a "form of immigration" and removed all references to the genocide of the indigenous peoples.

Ah that would be the UDC books.

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Whelp --- as a prior post pusillanimously pointed out:

When the left wants to destroy and or control a nation, they infiltrate education and control the minds of the children including what they are allowed to say, think, believe, understand as truth, demonstrate.

Oh wait, this was the right destroying or controlling a nation. Never mind.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No one should put their kids in public school if they are unhappy with the local district. Home schooling and private schooling are totally legal options. Keep in mind that public schools have to be everything to everyone......they are the default position originally created to educate the children of those farmers and factory workers who could not afford private schools or tutors.

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

How many times have you sat in a school classroom and watched a teacher "indoctrinate"? What was that teacher "indoctrinating" about? What did you do to either inquire about or try to stop that "indoctrination"?

Teachers indoctrinate students not to hate blacks, Hispanics, the handicapped, gays and non Christians.

That is why conservatives homeschool

I noticed you didn’t mention Jews. How interesting.

Do you understand what a Non Christian is?

Yep. So you include my people with other afterthoughts?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Ah....so that sounds just like the excuse conservative republicans give for any career they cannot succeed in. I hear it a lot about those of us who make a career in the military too. Couldn't make it as a teacher, eh?

That's a complicated way of saying "I know you are, but what am I" don't you think?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

How many times have you sat in a school classroom and watched a teacher "indoctrinate"? What was that teacher "indoctrinating" about? What did you do to either inquire about or try to stop that "indoctrination"?

Teachers indoctrinate students not to hate blacks, Hispanics, the handicapped, gays and non Christians.

That is why conservatives homeschool

I noticed you didn’t mention Jews. How interesting.

Jews are covered under the term "non Christians". We had an entire English class around why hating Jews is wrong which started while we were studying "The Merchant of Venice". It detailed the abuses of the Inquisition, and ended with "Adolf Hilter", when I was in high school.

What year was that? The curriculum has changed drastically

John F. Kennedy was still President. My oldest grandson just turned 30. I would hope the curriculum would have changed drastically. So has what a person needs to know to succeed.

It has. My 14 yr had to do a report on why Israel is oppressing Palestinians.

 

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So my son, a high school sophomore, is sitting in class and the teacher leaves the room for some reason.

The kids start goofing off and my son and his best friend start aiming their fingers at each other and going bang-bang. They play a lot of PUBG. They're kids. This is what kids do.

Some other ******* candyass motherfucking ***** soap bubble of a punk in the class tells the teacher when she comes back that my son was pretending to shoot a gun at HER (the teacher). The teacher wasn't even in the room!

My son is taken to security and interrogated, and several "witnesses" are interrogated.

The assistant principal calls my wife (because the ***** is terrified of me) and tells my wife my son is suspended, and he cannot return until he sees a ******* shrink.

I shit you not.

This insanity is right out of Kafka.


If there is anyone on Trump's staff, or Rush Limbaugh's show, or Fox News reading this, please PM me. I would like to make these ******* retards into a national embarrassment.

Thank you.

First, I'm sorry that your family is now being assaulted by the Socialist Slave State SJW Bullies. This is where all of this nonsense is headed. It's an ugly power play that will be used against all of us if it isn't stopped.

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