gallantwarrior
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I thought obama's one-payer program eliminated that kind of discrimination?
I Served 25 Years in the Service - And this Asshole is Doing What?????
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I thought obama's one-payer program eliminated that kind of discrimination?
The Gadfly
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Now that you mention it, I seem to recall that crongresscritters and presidents get a retirement/medical benefits package that would make even a high-flying corporate CEO blush. That's in addition to all the other free benefits they get, like all the dinners, lavish parties, vacations, golf outings, etc. all paid for by either lobbyists or the taxpayers. Now, they want all the rest of us, veterans and active military included to sacrifice?
Well, I tell you what, Mr. or Ms. Congressman, Senator, Cabinet Secretary, and Mr. President-WHY DON'T YOU LEAD BY EXAMPLE? How about YOU give up something, for a change?Take some of the money spent on those lavish state dinners, and give it to charity, instead. How about You make do with medicare like the rest of us, and give the money spent on those extra-special benefits you get, so vets keep the healthcare benefits they were promised for themselves and their families? How about you give back some of those high salaries, and give the VA some more funding? How about you tell your lobbyist pals, that instead of buying you dinner, they can donate to charity (including veterans charities)? How about you give up some of those fancy vacations, and give some of our wounded veterans and their families a modest vacation instead? I mean, after all, it's you and those like you who sent us to do the nasty work for this nation that you scrupulously avoided soiling your own soft hands with, so how about a little reciprocity, for a change? Show a little leadership and dedication to something besides yourselves, for a change, and maybe we'll pay attention, when you ask us (yet again) to "sacrifice". That's ALL of you, BOTH parties. Never mind the pious words on Memorial Day and Veterans Day, or the few of you who show up at the occasional fundraiser; put yourselves where your mouths are. How about YOU give a little something, besides hot air and empty promises?
Just as a reminder, it's election time again, and you better believe, we'll be watching to see who steps up to the plate, and who doesn't!
L.K.Eder
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Dr Grump
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I never said I don't like wars. Some are absolutely necessary.
And you can be proud where you served, that is not what I'm saying. The fact you should never have been in Vietnam in the first place is another issue altogether, but that doesn't mean you should not be proud of your service or that you did your country proud.
As for that 'war' you fought when you got back, don't go looking at me. I think anybody who spat on a serviceman who served in Vietnam - even GW I and Iraq/Afghanistan - gets all they deserve. Just because I disagreed with those wars doesn't mean those men and women should be disrespected (unless they were part of something akin to My Lai or Abu Ghraib).
Maybe those vets turned their backs on you because they thought Vietnam was wrong, too. But that is something you would have to take up with those that are left.
Dr Grump
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1) But it wasn't about fighting against Japan, right..
2) English is hardly a challenge, but you know what they say about people on messageboards who have to resort to attacking one's grammar. FYI, I mix metaphors ALL the time...and love doing so...
3) Re Kerry: Thanks for such a well-thought out, succinct rebuttal..
4) Yeah, yeahÂ…yet another great comeback..<rolls eyes>
You're not very good at this are you? Maybe you should stick to cleaning gum off the sidewalk...
Warrior102
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Do you have their three names, asswipe?
Dr Grump
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No **** Knuckle...have no idea....
Uncensored2008
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Poor little sparky, so desperate to alter the debate to focus away from your continual failure; still so impotent....
Well everyone is impressed with your showing, Mr. Berra...
LOL
Dull witted and slow on the uptake.. Don't ever change.
Gufaw, you're really holding your own. Damn, I usually have to visit the food stamp line to find repartee of your caliber..
Standard Disclaimer: Quotes By Yogi Berra - Yogi-isms Because we both know you didn't get it....
Uncensored2008
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That is definitely the most accurate post you've ever proffered....
Warrior102
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Warrior102
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Del - must have missed it. Years of service? Where? Thanks man.
Uncensored2008
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Dr Grump
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What a glutton for punishment. Not done with me kicking your arse from pillar to post, you stick around so Del can do the same....
Are you a friend of Mistress Cecile? You seem like a masochist....
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Dr Grump
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And neither do you. Go figure....what does that make you, a fascist?
Dr Grump
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^
visit?
Hey, maybe you can salvage this mess for him.
The two of you together should create a complete wit....
Standard Disclaimer: Apparently I was wrong, seems that two half-wits don't actually make a full wit....
Well, since you picked on mixed metaphors, at least we know something as basic as the difference between 'you're' and 'your'...
Those in glass houses and all.
Now say 'thank you' for allowing me to educate your ignorarnt arse...
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Dr Grump
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Del - must have missed it. Years of service? Where? Thanks man.
Yeah, tell him Del. Once he finds out where you served, you become one of the special ones. And if you didn't, well, you'll just have to settle for being a a Commie scumbag....
Salt Jones
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Really? That's why Sen. Tom Coburn came up with the idea last year?
I served 20 years in the Navy and I have no problem paying more then $460 per year for family premium. There hasn't been a premium increase in 15 years. Stop whining.
gallantwarrior
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The disdain and disregard for the common soldier is nothing new. Sadly, out esteemed and exalted government and the public that supports this regime, are not better than past generations, they are much, much worse. This poem rather illustrates the way the public values the soldier who warrants his/her life to vouchsafe their safety and comfort:
"Rudyard Kipling
Tommy
I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o'beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's ``Thank you, Mister Atkins,'' when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's ``Thank you, Mr. Atkins,'' when the band begins to play.
I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.
Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy how's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.
We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints:
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind,"
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind.
You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country," when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
But Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!"
"Rudyard Kipling
Tommy
I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o'beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's ``Thank you, Mister Atkins,'' when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's ``Thank you, Mr. Atkins,'' when the band begins to play.
I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.
Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy how's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.
We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints:
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind,"
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind.
You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country," when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
But Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!"
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