I predict Biden will criticize Israel for bombing the AP building in Gaza.

[JoeB131]

Correct, I said the founding fathers had a libertarian ideology. I didn't say the founding fathers were in the Libertarian Party, you stupid fuck. The founding fathers were actually not in the Libertarian Party, it didn't even exist then. My God you're stupid.

Again, you try to pretend the clown show that calls itself a party doesn't represent the views of the crazies who think civilization happens without government.

I mean, I get it. Dope Smoking Gary was a clown.

 

[kaz]

Ah, the you're a fake former Republican again, LOL.

You never voted Republican in your life, you're a life long Democrat socialist. You don't even know what Republicans think. Just like you don't know what libertarians or Libertarians think. You only know what leftists think because you are and always were a brainless leftist

The problem is the Republicans stopped thinking a long time ago...

Christians started supporting a guy who brags about grabbing pussy and fucks porn stars.
Libertarians started supporting a guy who opened concentration camps and attacked a free press.
Fiscal Conservatives supported a guy who went on an 8 trillion dollar spending orgy.

Now, I would love to be able to say that I quit the GOP because Trump was such a piece of shit. However, the guy who really did it for me was Romney. A guy the GOP didn't want in 2008 because he was a Mormon Cultist, but by 2012, he was just fine because OH MY GOD THERE'S A NEGRO IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!

Ironically, the GOP hates Romney now. They hate McCain (the last Republican I voted for), they hate Bush, they hate Cheney. So what were they "thinking" when they nominated guys they now hate?

Again, you don't even know what Republicans think, so your opinion of what they think is irrelevant.

If you were a Republican all your life, you'd know what Republicans think. You obviously never were, you have no idea. You just keep changing the year and reason you switched parties. You switched in 2000 because Gore. You witched in 2002 because Iraq. You switched in 2008 because Obama. You switched in 2016 because Trump. Every time, different lie. You are and always were a Democrat socialist full of racism and greed

 

[kaz]

Correct, I said the founding fathers had a libertarian ideology. I didn't say the founding fathers were in the Libertarian Party, you stupid fuck. The founding fathers were actually not in the Libertarian Party, it didn't even exist then. My God you're stupid.

Again, you try to pretend the clown show that calls itself a party doesn't represent the views of the crazies who think civilization happens without government.

I mean, I get it. Dope Smoking Gary was a clown.

I have actually said very little about the Libertarian Party. I have explained why I'm not one. I have voted for them more than the other parties, but that isn't the issue as you don't know how to capitalize. You are that stupid. Here's some help:

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[JoeB131]

Again, you don't even know what Republicans think, so your opinion of what they think is irrelevant.

If you were a Republican all your life, you'd know what Republicans think. You obviously never were, you have no idea. You just keep changing the year and reason you switched parties. You switched in 2000 because Gore. You witched in 2002 because Iraq. You switched in 2008 because Obama. You switched in 2016 because Trump. Every time, different lie. You are and always were a Democrat socialist full of racism and greed

Here, I'm going to put this down for you for future reference, because you keep attributing things to me I never said.

My first election was 1980. I voted Republican in the next three elections because I was in the military and Reagan and Bush were good for the military. I waivered in 1992 because I didn't like the fact Bush got us into a war against Iraq that was unncessary, and my time in service ended. Still ended up voting for him because Clinton was sleazy and Perot was nuts.

Voted for Dole in 1996 because Clinton was still sleazy and Perot was still nuts.

Uh, I never said I switched parties in 2000 because of Gore. I'm not sure why you keep repeating this, as I never said it. I did say that the 2000 election was wrong because the guy who got the most votes didn't win. I recognize bad systems even when they work in my favor.

NOW I would love to be able to say that I turned on the GOP because Bush lied us into a war in Iraq or he fucked up the response to Katrina. But honestly, I didn't turn on Bush until his incompetence started effecting me personally, and I realized the long-term effect that Republican policies had on me as a working person vis-a-vis my rights as a worker.

I didn't vote for Obama in 2008. I kind of liked McCain. If the GOP had followed McCain in 2000 or 2008, it might be a sane party today.

I did switch in 2012. First, if you pay attention to things I actually write, it's because I really, really, really fucking hate Mormons. I hate that Mormons are even a thing. That the GOP put a Mormon in charge because the moneyed establishment bullied a GOP that didn't want him was kind of the last straw for me. He was everything I didn't like in the GOP. Putting the interest of the investor class over the working class and doubling down on the religious crazy.

2016. Well, we've been over that. The only difference between Trump and the other GOP candidates is that he was willing to say the quiet part out loud about racism and hating 'the other'. And the GOP rank and file ate it up.

It stopped being the party of ideals I joined in 1980 and just became a vessel for white resentment. The thing is, I agree that there should be white resentment, but it's misdirected. The resentment should be towards the investor class, not the poverty class.

We need to be better.

 

[JoeB131]

I have actually said very little about the Libertarian Party. I have explained why I'm not one. I have voted for them more than the other parties, but that isn't the issue as you don't know how to capitalize. You are that stupid. Here's some help:

Distinction without a difference. Again, I can see why you don't want to be associated with that clown show, but maybe it's because the idealogy is the problem, whether you call them "clowns" or "Clowns"

 

[kaz]

Again, you don't even know what Republicans think, so your opinion of what they think is irrelevant.

If you were a Republican all your life, you'd know what Republicans think. You obviously never were, you have no idea. You just keep changing the year and reason you switched parties. You switched in 2000 because Gore. You witched in 2002 because Iraq. You switched in 2008 because Obama. You switched in 2016 because Trump. Every time, different lie. You are and always were a Democrat socialist full of racism and greed

Here, I'm going to put this down for you for future reference, because you keep attributing things to me I never said.

My first election was 1980. I voted Republican in the next three elections because I was in the military and Reagan and Bush were good for the military. I waivered in 1992 because I didn't like the fact Bush got us into a war against Iraq that was unncessary, and my time in service ended. Still ended up voting for him because Clinton was sleazy and Perot was nuts.

Voted for Dole in 1996 because Clinton was still sleazy and Perot was still nuts.

Uh, I never said I switched parties in 2000 because of Gore. I'm not sure why you keep repeating this, as I never said it. I did say that the 2000 election was wrong because the guy who got the most votes didn't win. I recognize bad systems even when they work in my favor.

NOW I would love to be able to say that I turned on the GOP because Bush lied us into a war in Iraq or he fucked up the response to Katrina. But honestly, I didn't turn on Bush until his incompetence started effecting me personally, and I realized the long-term effect that Republican policies had on me as a working person vis-a-vis my rights as a worker.

I didn't vote for Obama in 2008. I kind of liked McCain. If the GOP had followed McCain in 2000 or 2008, it might be a sane party today.

I did switch in 2012. First, if you pay attention to things I actually write, it's because I really, really, really fucking hate Mormons. I hate that Mormons are even a thing. That the GOP put a Mormon in charge because the moneyed establishment bullied a GOP that didn't want him was kind of the last straw for me. He was everything I didn't like in the GOP. Putting the interest of the investor class over the working class and doubling down on the religious crazy.

2016. Well, we've been over that. The only difference between Trump and the other GOP candidates is that he was willing to say the quiet part out loud about racism and hating 'the other'. And the GOP rank and file ate it up.

It stopped being the party of ideals I joined in 1980 and just became a vessel for white resentment. The thing is, I agree that there should be white resentment, but it's misdirected. The resentment should be towards the investor class, not the poverty class.

We need to be better.

You always show your lies with your attitudes.

The only reason to support the popular vote over the electoral college is because you're a collectivist, which means a Democrat. Which you clearly were in 2000. No conservative would have a problem with it because we believe in State rights. Not ever having been anything but a left wing socialist Democrat moon bat, you of course wouldn't know that.

The United States was never meant to be tyranny of the majority, States were meant to provide most of government. A conservative would grasp that means that national democracy is irrelevant. Yet you think all power is with the Federal government and that means that the Electoral college tramples your right to trample the rights of the minority. Your attitude is pure Democrat.

Second, everything you ever argue is for total government control of the economy, socialism. Again, Democrat.

And finally, you have no idea what Republicans think at all. Yet you keep lying you were one for most of your life. Well, then why do you have no idea at all in any way what Republicans think? You just believe fully the Democrat propaganda about what Republicans think. You're a Nazi who claims to have been a Jew. Sure you were.

Your story is lame. You don't know anything other than what Democrats think and you think Republicans and libertarians think what Democrats think we think, you know nothing more. You were never anything but a Democrat, it's lame.

That you were a conservative and yet a collectivist is just more of your stupid shit

 

[kaz]

I have actually said very little about the Libertarian Party. I have explained why I'm not one. I have voted for them more than the other parties, but that isn't the issue as you don't know how to capitalize. You are that stupid. Here's some help:

Distinction without a difference. Again, I can see why you don't want to be associated with that clown show, but maybe it's because the idealogy is the problem, whether you call them "clowns" or "Clowns"

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You don't understand the difference, that is clear. And it's not the same as there not being one. There is actually a wide range of views that fall under libertarian. The Libertarian Party is only one of them.

Shit, girl, you don't even know what libertarians think. According to you we're anarchists and statists. I'm neither, most libertarians aren't. You don't even make sense

 

[JoeB131]

You always show your lies with your attitudes.

The only reason to support the popular vote over the electoral college is because you're a collectivist, which means a Democrat. Which you clearly were in 2000. No conservative would have a problem with it because we believe in State rights. Not ever having been anything but a left wing socialist Democrat moon bat, you of course wouldn't know that.

Uh, no, guy, I support the popular vote because I trust the people to get it right. It's how we elect every other office in the country and when we ignore the people, we have really bad results.

The United States was never meant to be tyranny of the majority, States were meant to provide most of government. A conservative would grasp that means that national democracy is irrelevant. Yet you think all power is with the Federal government and that means that the Electoral college tramples your right to trample the rights of the minority. Your attitude is pure Democrat.

Uh, guy, the Founding Slave Rapists thought that the only people who should hold power were property-owning, white males. Thankfully, we evolved above what they wanted. The reason why we moved to a more centralized federal model is their model just plain old didn't work.

And finally, you have no idea what Republicans think at all. Yet you keep lying you were one for most of your life. Well, then why do you have no idea at all in any way what Republicans think? You just believe fully the Democrat propaganda about what Republicans think. You're a Nazi who claims to have been a Jew. Sure you were.

Guy, the Republicans have now disowned McCain, Romney and the Bush family. They only reason they haven't disowned Reagan is they've managed to create a mythology of the man by forgetting he raised taxes after cutting them and gave amnesty to 3 million illegal aliens.

Your story is lame. You don't know anything other than what Democrats think and you think Republicans and libertarians think what Democrats think we think, you know nothing more. You were never anything but a Democrat, it's lame.

No, I was a Republican when Republicans were SANE. They stopped being sane right after the Black Guy got in the White House. Then they all collectively lost their shit.

You don't understand the difference, that is clear. And it's not the same as there not being one. There is actually a wide range of views that fall under libertarian. The Libertarian Party is only one of them.

25 flavors of Crazy is still crazy. It still boils down to the same Crazy of thinking civilization happens without government.

Shit, girl, you don't even know what libertarians think. According to you we're anarchists and statists. I'm neither, most libertarians aren't. You don't even make sense

Again, you are man-children who engage in magical thinking. If you didn't have sugar daddies like the Koch Brothers, you wouldn't even be on the national stage.

 

[kaz]

You always show your lies with your attitudes.

The only reason to support the popular vote over the electoral college is because you're a collectivist, which means a Democrat. Which you clearly were in 2000. No conservative would have a problem with it because we believe in State rights. Not ever having been anything but a left wing socialist Democrat moon bat, you of course wouldn't know that.

Uh, no, guy, I support the popular vote because I trust the people to get it right. It's how we elect every other office in the country and when we ignore the people, we have really bad results.

The United States was never meant to be tyranny of the majority, States were meant to provide most of government. A conservative would grasp that means that national democracy is irrelevant. Yet you think all power is with the Federal government and that means that the Electoral college tramples your right to trample the rights of the minority. Your attitude is pure Democrat.

Uh, guy, the Founding Slave Rapists thought that the only people who should hold power were property-owning, white males. Thankfully, we evolved above what they wanted. The reason why we moved to a more centralized federal model is their model just plain old didn't work.

And finally, you have no idea what Republicans think at all. Yet you keep lying you were one for most of your life. Well, then why do you have no idea at all in any way what Republicans think? You just believe fully the Democrat propaganda about what Republicans think. You're a Nazi who claims to have been a Jew. Sure you were.

Guy, the Republicans have now disowned McCain, Romney and the Bush family. They only reason they haven't disowned Reagan is they've managed to create a mythology of the man by forgetting he raised taxes after cutting them and gave amnesty to 3 million illegal aliens.

Your story is lame. You don't know anything other than what Democrats think and you think Republicans and libertarians think what Democrats think we think, you know nothing more. You were never anything but a Democrat, it's lame.

No, I was a Republican when Republicans were SANE. They stopped being sane right after the Black Guy got in the White House. Then they all collectively lost their shit.

You don't understand the difference, that is clear. And it's not the same as there not being one. There is actually a wide range of views that fall under libertarian. The Libertarian Party is only one of them.

25 flavors of Crazy is still crazy. It still boils down to the same Crazy of thinking civilization happens without government.

Shit, girl, you don't even know what libertarians think. According to you we're anarchists and statists. I'm neither, most libertarians aren't. You don't even make sense

Again, you are man-children who engage in magical thinking. If you didn't have sugar daddies like the Koch Brothers, you wouldn't even be on the national stage.

You don't even understand what I said. You still see the United States Federal government as the supreme single central power in our country, they make our laws and control us. And God, you want them to control us like every other socialist fascist Democrat.

With the right, we don't see the EV as undemocratic because the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE THE POWER TO CONTROL US.

If the Federal government primarily defends us, then the States are all free to make our own laws. That is were democracy is meaningful, the States. A powerful central government OVERRIDES democracy, it doesn't create Democracy.

My point is you don't see that. You claim to have been a Republican all your life, but you don't have any clue at all what Republicans think.

You are the perfect argument for the point you have never been a Republican, you're a liar

 

[JoeB131]

You don't even understand what I said. You still see the United States Federal government as the supreme single central power in our country, they make our laws and control us. And God, you want them to control us like every other socialist fascist Democrat.

With the right, we don't see the EV as undemocratic because the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE THE POWER TO CONTROL US.

I understood what you said perfectly, it's just stupid.
The EV is undemocratic if one person gets more of the votes and the other person ends up winning.

If the Federal government primarily defends us, then the States are all free to make our own laws. That is were democracy is meaningful, the States. A powerful central government OVERRIDES democracy, it doesn't create Democracy.

Uh, yeah. I seem to remember that every oppressive bit of nonsense was justified under "States Rights". So a state forcing black people to ride at the back of the bus and drink out of a separate water fountain was "democracy"? Really?

That mean old Federal Government stepping in and putting a stop to that... why that was awful!

Schmuck.

My point is you don't see that. You claim to have been a Republican all your life, but you don't have any clue at all what Republicans think.

You are the perfect argument for the point you have never been a Republican, you're a liar

Naw, guy, I was a Republican before Republicans went sheer batshit crazy. Again, you guys have thrown out everyone you've put up as "leaders" for the last 30 years... you really don't get to come back and claim ideological purity.

 

[kaz]

You don't even understand what I said. You still see the United States Federal government as the supreme single central power in our country, they make our laws and control us. And God, you want them to control us like every other socialist fascist Democrat.

With the right, we don't see the EV as undemocratic because the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE THE POWER TO CONTROL US.

I understood what you said perfectly, it's just stupid.
The EV is undemocratic if one person gets more of the votes and the other person ends up winning.

If the Federal government primarily defends us, then the States are all free to make our own laws. That is were democracy is meaningful, the States. A powerful central government OVERRIDES democracy, it doesn't create Democracy.

Uh, yeah. I seem to remember that every oppressive bit of nonsense was justified under "States Rights". So a state forcing black people to ride at the back of the bus and drink out of a separate water fountain was "democracy"? Really?

That mean old Federal Government stepping in and putting a stop to that... why that was awful!

Schmuck.

My point is you don't see that. You claim to have been a Republican all your life, but you don't have any clue at all what Republicans think.

You are the perfect argument for the point you have never been a Republican, you're a liar

Naw, guy, I was a Republican before Republicans went sheer batshit crazy. Again, you guys have thrown out everyone you've put up as "leaders" for the last 30 years... you really don't get to come back and claim ideological purity.

You just repeated exactly what I said.

You are a socialist who sees the country as a single entity controlled by the tyranny of the majority. A Democrat.

Republicans favor State rights and don't get that is anti Democrat because the Federal government DOESN'T HAVE THOSE POWERS. The States do. You to a conservative are overriding democracy, not creating it.

You are pretending to be a lifetime Republican while proving yet again you don't even know what a Republican is. Just like you criticize libertarians but you don't know what a libertarian is.

You're just a racist, fascist, socialist Democrat. And you always were

 

[JoeB131]

Republicans favor State rights and don't get that is anti Democrat because the Federal government DOESN'T HAVE THOSE POWERS. The States do. You to a conservative are overriding democracy, not creating it.

Uh, no, guy, letting Red Neck States decide what your rights are is kind of stupid.

Again, we had this discussion 50 years ago. Your side lost, btw.

 

[kaz]

Republicans favor State rights and don't get that is anti Democrat because the Federal government DOESN'T HAVE THOSE POWERS. The States do. You to a conservative are overriding democracy, not creating it.

Uh, no, guy, letting Red Neck States decide what your rights are is kind of stupid.

Again, we had this discussion 50 years ago. Your side lost, btw.

Proving again that you have zero idea what Republicans think and proving your claim you were one most of your time a lie.

You're a collectivist and a socialist and all you were. It's all you know

 

[JoeB131]

Proving again that you have zero idea what Republicans think and proving your claim you were one most of your time a lie.

You're a collectivist and a socialist and all you were. It's all you know

Uh, actually, no... The problem is, Republicans embraced the racists.... that's the problem, because they couldn't sell even the dumbest white trash redneck on "We want you to work harder for less money to make the rich richer."

They sold that by itself with Barry Goldwater in 1964 and lost 44 states.

Then they started flavoring their shit with racism and did better.

 

[kaz]

Proving again that you have zero idea what Republicans think and proving your claim you were one most of your time a lie.

You're a collectivist and a socialist and all you were. It's all you know

Uh, actually, no... The problem is, Republicans embraced the racists.... that's the problem, because they couldn't sell even the dumbest white trash redneck on "We want you to work harder for less money to make the rich richer."

They sold that by itself with Barry Goldwater in 1964 and lost 44 states.

Then they started flavoring their shit with racism and did better.

If you were ever actually a Republican you'd know that is a lie. You're just proving again you're a lifelong brainless greedy Democrat

 

[JoeB131]

If you were ever actually a Republican you'd know that is a lie. You're just proving again you're a lifelong brainless greedy Democrat

Sorry, man, I know historical perspectives confuse you... back to the Libertarian Kiddy Table with you, the grownups are talking.

 

[kaz]

If you were ever actually a Republican you'd know that is a lie. You're just proving again you're a lifelong brainless greedy Democrat

Sorry, man, I know historical perspectives confuse you... back to the Libertarian Kiddy Table with you, the grownups are talking.

You were a Republican until eight years ago, then you became a socialist and believe every Democrat talking point about what Republicans think. And you think libertarian's are anarchists AND statists ... at the same time ...

You have every attitude and believe every cult Democrat bull shit, you never voted for anyone but a Democrat in your life. You're the fakest ex-Republican ever, and that's noteworthy given all the leftist morons like you who claim they went to bed one day as a conservative and woke up a communist.

Did Karl Marx visit you in a dream? Where there three visitors that Christmas eve? LOL.

So do you actually believe a conservative is going to say OMG, Joe's a communist and he used to be a Republican!?!?! Gimme some of that fascism, baby! I'm in!

Yeah, no ...

 

[JoeB131]

You were a Republican until eight years ago, then you became a socialist and believe every Democrat talking point about what Republicans think. And you think libertarian's are anarchists AND statists ... at the same time ...

Actually, I believe Libertarians are children with arrested development. The problem was 12 years ago, Republicans didn't let the crazies take over. Five minutes after the black guy got elected, they completely lost their shit.

I remember well a conference they had of the upcoming Republican talent. You had Mitt Romney, who thinks he wears magic underwear; Sarah Palin, who hangs out at a church where a witch-hunter was an honored guest; Bobby Jindal, who once performed an exorcism on a college roommate, and Mike Huckabee, who thinks the Rapture is really gonna happen.

Now, the GOP has been pandering to the religious crazies pretty much since Tricky Dick invited Gold-Plated hypocrite Billy Graham to pray with him. But up until that point, they always kept the crazies at arms length.

You have every attitude and believe every cult Democrat bull shit, you never voted for anyone but a Democrat in your life. You're the fakest ex-Republican ever, and that's noteworthy given all the leftist morons like you who claim they went to bed one day as a conservative and woke up a communist.

Not at all. I realize I was supporting the wrong side when my douchebag ex boss fucked up my career and proudly announced, this is why I'm glad don't have to deal with a union. I realize that if I want to live like a Republican, I needed to vote for a Democrat.

I would LOVE to be able to say I turned on the GOP when Bush lied us into Iraq or fucked up the response to Katrina. Those things didn't effect me personally.

The ironic thing is, the GOP used to get that there needed to be a balance between the interests of the working class and the investor class. I would say they got that up unto Reagan. Then they figured out they could get working class whites to vote against their own economic interests by playing on their racial, sexual and religious fears.

So do you actually believe a conservative is going to say OMG, Joe's a communist and he used to be a Republican!?!?! Gimme some of that fascism, baby! I'm in!

No, man.

I've watch "Family Values" conservatives rationalize why a guy was fucking a porn star while his third wife was at home with his fifth child.
I've watched National Defense Conservatives rationalize it when Trump pulled the rug out form under our allies, the Kurds and undermine alliances.
I've watched Fiscal Conservatives rationalize EIGHT TRILLION in new debt.
I've watched "libertarians" justify throwing small children into cages without due process of law.

If there was an underlying philosophical basis to conservatism, it had been dying for a long time before a stake was driven through its heart in 2016. I just saw where it was all going long before you got there.

 

[Rigby5]

Again, you don't even know what Republicans think, so your opinion of what they think is irrelevant.

If you were a Republican all your life, you'd know what Republicans think. You obviously never were, you have no idea. You just keep changing the year and reason you switched parties. You switched in 2000 because Gore. You witched in 2002 because Iraq. You switched in 2008 because Obama. You switched in 2016 because Trump. Every time, different lie. You are and always were a Democrat socialist full of racism and greed

Here, I'm going to put this down for you for future reference, because you keep attributing things to me I never said.

My first election was 1980. I voted Republican in the next three elections because I was in the military and Reagan and Bush were good for the military. I waivered in 1992 because I didn't like the fact Bush got us into a war against Iraq that was unncessary, and my time in service ended. Still ended up voting for him because Clinton was sleazy and Perot was nuts.

Voted for Dole in 1996 because Clinton was still sleazy and Perot was still nuts.

Uh, I never said I switched parties in 2000 because of Gore. I'm not sure why you keep repeating this, as I never said it. I did say that the 2000 election was wrong because the guy who got the most votes didn't win. I recognize bad systems even when they work in my favor.

NOW I would love to be able to say that I turned on the GOP because Bush lied us into a war in Iraq or he fucked up the response to Katrina. But honestly, I didn't turn on Bush until his incompetence started effecting me personally, and I realized the long-term effect that Republican policies had on me as a working person vis-a-vis my rights as a worker.

I didn't vote for Obama in 2008. I kind of liked McCain. If the GOP had followed McCain in 2000 or 2008, it might be a sane party today.

I did switch in 2012. First, if you pay attention to things I actually write, it's because I really, really, really fucking hate Mormons. I hate that Mormons are even a thing. That the GOP put a Mormon in charge because the moneyed establishment bullied a GOP that didn't want him was kind of the last straw for me. He was everything I didn't like in the GOP. Putting the interest of the investor class over the working class and doubling down on the religious crazy.

2016. Well, we've been over that. The only difference between Trump and the other GOP candidates is that he was willing to say the quiet part out loud about racism and hating 'the other'. And the GOP rank and file ate it up.

It stopped being the party of ideals I joined in 1980 and just became a vessel for white resentment. The thing is, I agree that there should be white resentment, but it's misdirected. The resentment should be towards the investor class, not the poverty class.

We need to be better.

You always show your lies with your attitudes.

The only reason to support the popular vote over the electoral college is because you're a collectivist, which means a Democrat. Which you clearly were in 2000. No conservative would have a problem with it because we believe in State rights. Not ever having been anything but a left wing socialist Democrat moon bat, you of course wouldn't know that.

The United States was never meant to be tyranny of the majority, States were meant to provide most of government. A conservative would grasp that means that national democracy is irrelevant. Yet you think all power is with the Federal government and that means that the Electoral college tramples your right to trample the rights of the minority. Your attitude is pure Democrat.

Second, everything you ever argue is for total government control of the economy, socialism. Again, Democrat.

And finally, you have no idea what Republicans think at all. Yet you keep lying you were one for most of your life. Well, then why do you have no idea at all in any way what Republicans think? You just believe fully the Democrat propaganda about what Republicans think. You're a Nazi who claims to have been a Jew. Sure you were.

Your story is lame. You don't know anything other than what Democrats think and you think Republicans and libertarians think what Democrats think we think, you know nothing more. You were never anything but a Democrat, it's lame.

That you were a conservative and yet a collectivist is just more of your stupid shit

Interesting.
But a few observations.
All federal elections have to always be collectivist.
The details as to how you do it, electoral vs popular vote, is not that different.
I do personally like the idea of reducing the impact/power of large population centers, but I would not call that "states rights".
States can't have rights.
Only individuals can have rights.
States have jurisdiction, and by being closer to the people, can better represent the inherent rights of individuals.

 

[Rigby5]

You were a Republican until eight years ago, then you became a socialist and believe every Democrat talking point about what Republicans think. And you think libertarian's are anarchists AND statists ... at the same time ...

Actually, I believe Libertarians are children with arrested development. The problem was 12 years ago, Republicans didn't let the crazies take over. Five minutes after the black guy got elected, they completely lost their shit.

I remember well a conference they had of the upcoming Republican talent. You had Mitt Romney, who thinks he wears magic underwear; Sarah Palin, who hangs out at a church where a witch-hunter was an honored guest; Bobby Jindal, who once performed an exorcism on a college roommate, and Mike Huckabee, who thinks the Rapture is really gonna happen.

Now, the GOP has been pandering to the religious crazies pretty much since Tricky Dick invited Gold-Plated hypocrite Billy Graham to pray with him. But up until that point, they always kept the crazies at arms length.

You have every attitude and believe every cult Democrat bull shit, you never voted for anyone but a Democrat in your life. You're the fakest ex-Republican ever, and that's noteworthy given all the leftist morons like you who claim they went to bed one day as a conservative and woke up a communist.

Not at all. I realize I was supporting the wrong side when my douchebag ex boss fucked up my career and proudly announced, this is why I'm glad don't have to deal with a union. I realize that if I want to live like a Republican, I needed to vote for a Democrat.

I would LOVE to be able to say I turned on the GOP when Bush lied us into Iraq or fucked up the response to Katrina. Those things didn't effect me personally.

The ironic thing is, the GOP used to get that there needed to be a balance between the interests of the working class and the investor class. I would say they got that up unto Reagan. Then they figured out they could get working class whites to vote against their own economic interests by playing on their racial, sexual and religious fears.

So do you actually believe a conservative is going to say OMG, Joe's a communist and he used to be a Republican!?!?! Gimme some of that fascism, baby! I'm in!

No, man.

I've watch "Family Values" conservatives rationalize why a guy was fucking a porn star while his third wife was at home with his fifth child.
I've watched National Defense Conservatives rationalize it when Trump pulled the rug out form under our allies, the Kurds and undermine alliances.
I've watched Fiscal Conservatives rationalize EIGHT TRILLION in new debt.
I've watched "libertarians" justify throwing small children into cages without due process of law.

If there was an underlying philosophical basis to conservatism, it had been dying for a long time before a stake was driven through its heart in 2016. I just saw where it was all going long before you got there.

I used to be a republican until I was about 13 or so and realized that my heroes like Eisenhower and Goldwater were fairly ignorant when it came to things like economics or justice, and were just a warrior mentality.
Vietnam prevented me from ever having any association with the military, as it was so obvious to me that Ho Chi MInh was a national hero for liberating Vietnam from the French, and our military was outright on the side of evil.