I predict Biden will criticize Israel for bombing the AP building in Gaza.

[BS Filter]

You people are remarkably forgiving of the only other country in the world that can make the decision that America will go to war.

Israel obliterates Gaza headquarters of AP and Al Jazeera… Boom and it’s gone…​

Israel obliterates Gaza headquarters of AP and Al Jazeera… Boom and it’s gone…

UPDATE “After Operation Protective Edge in 2014, former AP reporter Matti Friedman wrote in The Atlantic: “Hamas understood that reporters could be intimidated when necessary and that they w…

citizenfreepress.com

Just wait... Biden and his infidel believers will criticize Israel just as

Press advocates condemn Israeli missile strike on media building​

The Associated Press, Al Jazeera and other press advocates condemned the Israeli air strike on Saturday that blew up the building housing them and other media outlets.
Reporters for AP and Al Jazeera were forced to evacuate the 12-story building after the owner was warned that it would be targeted. Israeli forces struck the building an hour later, causing it to completely collapse.

Press advocates condemn Israeli missile strike on media building

The Associated Press, Al Jazeera and other press advocates condemned the Israeli airstrike on Saturday that blew up the building housing them and other media outlets.AP President and CEO Gary Pruit…

thehill.com

By the way... has Hamas given anyone warnings about these attacks?

IMRA - Sunday, April 18, 2004 A Chronology of Terrorist Attacks Carried out by Hamas Since September 2000

www.imra.org.il

Well, the Israelis have done this sort of stuff for 70 years.

You mean attack their enemies? That's why we admire them.

Israelis attacked the worshippers at AlAqsa.. They engineered this fight so they could kill more Palestinians.

No, they didn't. More propaganda. Hamas had staged the weapons inside the mosque. The western narrative is a joke. Hamas started this by firing off more than 1500 rockets. Hamas needs to be annihilated.

Right proof

Hamas had staged the weapons inside the mosque.... Proof...

Hamas started this by firing off more than 1500 rockets.... Prove that Hamas actually did this and it wasn't Jihad...

Wrong.
There is no proof of any weapons from mosques, schools, hospitals, or any other questionable source.
The recent rockets were more than justified retaliation over the recent murder and land confiscations.

Oh my God. You're insane.

 

[Rigby5]

AP/AJ are huge Hamas/Iran supporters.
A child knows this fact.
These fuckers have been having lunch in the building every fucking day with Hamas leaders.
Israel showed Biden 100% proof that Hamas had been operating out of the building with the full knowledge of AP/AJ.

And why shouldn't the press be supporters of Hamas, the democratically elected representatives of Palestine?
The government of Palestine, operates out of almost all the commercial buildings in Gaza.
They run all the schools, utilities, libraries, etc.

Why did Abbas cancel the 'election' asshole?
B/c he KNEW he wouldn't get reelected.
That's why Iran told him to start firing off thousands of Iran supplied rockets into Israel. To distract from the FACT that the average Palestinian has fucking had it with living in a violent shithole sand dune. The Palestinian youth have the fucking internet and they fucking KNOW they are being controlled by a bunch of toothless stinking psychopaths who would rather buy bullets than buy food for their granddaughters AKA their future sex slaves.

Wrong.
The election was cancelled because Israel would not allow voting stations in any of the contested areas, which is the entire West Bank.
All the problems in Palestine are caused deliberately by Israel.

Link from a non-Arab site?

{...
Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS’HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh’s town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour’s drive away.

But unlike his Jewish neighbors, he can’t vote in next week’s elections.

Saleh is among the 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank who have no voice in choosing Israel’s next government and no control over whether it decides to annex part or all of the occupied territory, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to do . With the peace process having sputtered to a halt a decade ago, they also have little hope of getting a state of their own anytime soon.
...}

Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS'HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh's town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour's drive away.

apnews.com

He's not a citizen of Israel, so why should he be allowed to vote in their elections?

He is on land controlled by the government of Israel.
Israel either has to retreat back to the 1948 partition, or allow all the Arabs in the occupied lands to vote in Israeli elections.

Not true. Palestinians are a gang of criminals. They are not entitled to anything you claim.

Nonsense.
Palestinians did their part to help the Allies in WWI, and it is the Allies that criminally failed to liberate Palestine as required by treaty.
The Zionists of Israel are all illegal immigrants with illegal US weapons they used to murder Palestinians and steal land.

Does Israel have the right to exist?

Don't go there with Rigby!

Hamas is Sunni and Iran is Shiite.
Saudi Arabia is a more likely source of Hamas funding, since they are both Sunni.

Thats an over simplification

Iran is Israels sworn enemy

They would gladly fund hamas

Wrong.
In fact, Iran has never cared about Israel to ever get involved in a single conflict over Palestine.
Iran just says Israel will collapse on its own since it is minority rule.

You're right; Iran was simply busy attacking Iraq.

The war between Iran and Iraq ended in 1988.

The war ended but ISIS didn't get the message until Trump MOABed them.

Wrong.
ISIS is not Iranian but Iraqi Sunni that were put out of work by the US supporting the Shiites instead.
ISIS did not get created until the US was starting to leave Iraq and let out all its Sunni prisoners.

Muslims are cool; it doesn't take much to make them riot and murder.

They are too strict for my tastes, but they are exceedingly honest.

You are the world's biggest sucker. The Quran commands Moslems to lie to the Infidel.

Wrong.
The Quran actually normally forbids lying, but makes an exception only if the truth would cause someone else to be harmed.
You can only lie to protect the lives of others, like when the Gestapo ask where the Jews are hiding.
And by the way, the word "infidel" means a person lacking in fidelity, which means traitor, like an apostate.
It does not mean unbeliever.
But Jews and Christians are not considered unbelievers either, as all Abrahamic religions were considered valid by Mohammad.

The Koran allows a Muslim to lie to a non-Muslim which is why Napolean had to shoot an entire troop of Muslims who attacked his troops after swearing not to attack.

Napoleon was the attacker.

 

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Bullshit

Learn to deal with facts and not expect media to be sycophants to your bias.

Instead they should be shills for your favorite ideologies? That's not how I see things.
Do you miss Pravda?

So, in your mind if the media isn't shilling for you bias it's shilling for someone else? s reporting of events and news ever not biased your sycophant's mind?

We know the media shills for the left and Muslim terrorists.

How can Muslims be "terrorists" when they are just defending their homelands?

Israel is not their homeland, moron.

WRONG!
Go read some history books.
Hebrew did not come from Palestine, but the Sinai.
Why do you think they went to Egypt for 400 years to escape a drought in the Sinai, if they came from Palestine, which never had a drought like that.
And why is it Palestine then was known of the Land of Canaan if it was the homeland of the Hebrew?
The Hebrew did invade around 1000 BC, but only ruled for a couple hundred years before being defeated and driven out by the Babylonians. They kept sneaking back, but were later defeated and driven out again and again, by the Assyrians and finally the Romans
The Hebrew never belonged there and were always illegal, brutal, invaders.
And they again were illegal foreign invaders in 1948.
They do not belong there.
It is NOT their homeland and never was.

Counter argument since YOU OFFERED NO LINKS...JUST your guesses.
Why is it so difficult to provide sources? As a result I assume you are guessing!

Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947; Israel's admission to the UN in 1949; the recognition of Israel by most other states; and, most of all, the society created by Israel's people in decades of thriving, dynamic national existence.​

Jewish Claim To The Land Of Israel

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

That is easy to prove is lies.

First of all, lets establish that Joshua was a brutal invader who massacred the native Canaanite in Jerusalem, around 1000 BC.
Then lets prove the claim of uninterrupted Jewish settlement is a lie.
Did not the the Assyrians defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 701 BC?
Did not the the Babylonians defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 587 BC?
Did not the the Romans defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 70 AD?
Did not the Crusaders massacre any remaining Jews from 1099 on?

As for the Balfour Declaration, England did not own Palestine at the time, so was invalid.
But it never intended or gave any hint of Jewish ownership, only facilitated immigration.
Read the Churchill Whitepaper of 1922.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922

{...

Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
...}

And as for who does own Palestine, I suggest you refer to the Treaty of San Remo and Treaty of Sevres, which legally created the Moslem Palestine as agreed by the British for helping the Allies in WWI.
The British Mandate for Palestine was not a whim, but a contractual obligation to the Arab Moslems.

And finally, the hundreds of war crime resolution by the UN against Israel invalidate it utterly.
There has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel.

Where are you FACTS supporting your personal opinion such as "there has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel"...

Question for you:
Would you consider a country that committed the following as more criminally than Israel?

Indeed, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, the literary giant who wrote harrowingly about the Soviet gulag system, claimed the true number of Stalin’s victims might have been as high as 60 million.

How Many People Did Joseph Stalin Kill?

Most reputed scholars and historians estimate that the number of people Stalin killed ranges from between 20 and 60 million.

www.ibtimes.com

Or how about this country:
From 1958 to 1962, his Great Leap Forward policy led to the deaths of up to 45 million people – easily making it the biggest episode of mass murder ever recorded.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/08/03/giving-historys-greatest-mass-murderer-his-due/

Now why should ANY ONE believe anything you write because right with this stupidly ignorant statement you show that anything you write is totally biased. Totally ignorant. AND truly unsubstantiated.
Compared to 100 million killed by Stalin/Mao i.e Communists which evidently (YOU ARE)... where do you get off on saying ""there has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel"...
Don't you see that anyone who reads that and knows history will say that guy is crazy!

This asshole believes "Palestine" is a real country but Israel isn't.

The natives are Palestinian, while the Zionists are all illegal immigrants, mostly from Poland and Russia.
Palestine was made in 1920 by world treaty and legal obligation.
Israel was created essentially by Truman's unilateral fiat in 1949.

There's no such country as Palestine, and the people who claim they are Palestinian are almost entirely from somewhere else.

That makes no sense.
Palestine, (AKA the Land of Canaan, the Levant, etc.,) is always described as the most popular and densely populated in the entire Mideast.
The Oranges of Jaffa were world famous in the 1800s.
In 1922 the census says 3/4 of a million Palestinians, with only 4% being Jewish.
(It actually would have been higher total, but WWI and disease brought it down.)
So then how could 3/4 of a million Palestinian, mostly Moslem, not be a Palestine in 1922?
Especially since Palestine had just been legally mandated by treaty in 1920?

Canaan is one thing, and Palestine was another. The later was a creation of the United Nations. It wasn't a country.

You wouldn't ask questions like you did if you had simply read the facts. There has never been a country called Palestine. The territory the UN put Britain in charge of was divided up into Israel and Jordan. The so-called "Palestinians" are actually Jordanians.

Wrong.
Palestine was created by the League of Nations, the Treaty of San Remo, the Treaty of Sevres, and the Allies from WWI, in 1920.
That was before the UN was created in 1945.
The UN had nothing to do with creating Palestine in 1920.

The British were mandated only to create an Arab Palestine, and there is no legal basis for Israel.
Read the Churchill Whitepaper of 1922.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922

{...
Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
...}

Your article only supports what I've been saying.

No it does not.
It says that Palestine is to be Arab and Moslem, but that Jews are to be allowed immigration as long as they stay below the limit.
There is never to be a Jewish state.

Wrong, idiot:

Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.'​

A Jewish home means facilitated immigration.
It does not mean a state religion.
It clearly says the home for Jews would be within the greater Arab Moslem Palestine.
Which at this time was 95% Arab Moslem..

Read the next sentence:
{,,, It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government. ...}
The Jews were only being granted such liberal immigration because they had vowed to have no part in the government of Palestine.
There was to be no Israel.
The Jews were lying and always intended to steal all of Palestine.

Still no Links from a non-Arab site.
Do you realize how boring you are?

 

[healthmyths]

You people are remarkably forgiving of the only other country in the world that can make the decision that America will go to war.

Israel obliterates Gaza headquarters of AP and Al Jazeera… Boom and it’s gone…​

Israel obliterates Gaza headquarters of AP and Al Jazeera… Boom and it’s gone…

UPDATE “After Operation Protective Edge in 2014, former AP reporter Matti Friedman wrote in The Atlantic: “Hamas understood that reporters could be intimidated when necessary and that they w…

citizenfreepress.com

Just wait... Biden and his infidel believers will criticize Israel just as

Press advocates condemn Israeli missile strike on media building​

The Associated Press, Al Jazeera and other press advocates condemned the Israeli air strike on Saturday that blew up the building housing them and other media outlets.
Reporters for AP and Al Jazeera were forced to evacuate the 12-story building after the owner was warned that it would be targeted. Israeli forces struck the building an hour later, causing it to completely collapse.

Press advocates condemn Israeli missile strike on media building

The Associated Press, Al Jazeera and other press advocates condemned the Israeli airstrike on Saturday that blew up the building housing them and other media outlets.AP President and CEO Gary Pruit…

thehill.com

By the way... has Hamas given anyone warnings about these attacks?

IMRA - Sunday, April 18, 2004 A Chronology of Terrorist Attacks Carried out by Hamas Since September 2000

www.imra.org.il

Well, the Israelis have done this sort of stuff for 70 years.

You mean attack their enemies? That's why we admire them.

Israelis attacked the worshippers at AlAqsa.. They engineered this fight so they could kill more Palestinians.

No, they didn't. More propaganda. Hamas had staged the weapons inside the mosque. The western narrative is a joke. Hamas started this by firing off more than 1500 rockets. Hamas needs to be annihilated.

Right proof

Hamas had staged the weapons inside the mosque.... Proof...

Hamas started this by firing off more than 1500 rockets.... Prove that Hamas actually did this and it wasn't Jihad...

Wrong.
There is no proof of any weapons from mosques, schools, hospitals, or any other questionable source.
The recent rockets were more than justified retaliation over the recent murder and land confiscations.

Sorry don't believe anything you write! NO substantiation! NO LINKS! ONLY your subjective and personalized opinion!

 

[Indeependent]

You people are remarkably forgiving of the only other country in the world that can make the decision that America will go to war.

Israel obliterates Gaza headquarters of AP and Al Jazeera… Boom and it’s gone…​

Israel obliterates Gaza headquarters of AP and Al Jazeera… Boom and it’s gone…

UPDATE “After Operation Protective Edge in 2014, former AP reporter Matti Friedman wrote in The Atlantic: “Hamas understood that reporters could be intimidated when necessary and that they w…

citizenfreepress.com

Just wait... Biden and his infidel believers will criticize Israel just as

Press advocates condemn Israeli missile strike on media building​

The Associated Press, Al Jazeera and other press advocates condemned the Israeli air strike on Saturday that blew up the building housing them and other media outlets.
Reporters for AP and Al Jazeera were forced to evacuate the 12-story building after the owner was warned that it would be targeted. Israeli forces struck the building an hour later, causing it to completely collapse.

Press advocates condemn Israeli missile strike on media building

The Associated Press, Al Jazeera and other press advocates condemned the Israeli airstrike on Saturday that blew up the building housing them and other media outlets.AP President and CEO Gary Pruit…

thehill.com

By the way... has Hamas given anyone warnings about these attacks?

IMRA - Sunday, April 18, 2004 A Chronology of Terrorist Attacks Carried out by Hamas Since September 2000

www.imra.org.il

Well, the Israelis have done this sort of stuff for 70 years.

You mean attack their enemies? That's why we admire them.

Israelis attacked the worshippers at AlAqsa.. They engineered this fight so they could kill more Palestinians.

No, they didn't. More propaganda. Hamas had staged the weapons inside the mosque. The western narrative is a joke. Hamas started this by firing off more than 1500 rockets. Hamas needs to be annihilated.

Right proof

Hamas had staged the weapons inside the mosque.... Proof...

Hamas started this by firing off more than 1500 rockets.... Prove that Hamas actually did this and it wasn't Jihad...

Wrong.
There is no proof of any weapons from mosques, schools, hospitals, or any other questionable source.
The recent rockets were more than justified retaliation over the recent murder and land confiscations.

land confiscations.

The Arabs stopped paying rent, you fucking moron.

 

[Rigby5]

AP/AJ are huge Hamas/Iran supporters.
A child knows this fact.
These fuckers have been having lunch in the building every fucking day with Hamas leaders.
Israel showed Biden 100% proof that Hamas had been operating out of the building with the full knowledge of AP/AJ.

And why shouldn't the press be supporters of Hamas, the democratically elected representatives of Palestine?
The government of Palestine, operates out of almost all the commercial buildings in Gaza.
They run all the schools, utilities, libraries, etc.

Why did Abbas cancel the 'election' asshole?
B/c he KNEW he wouldn't get reelected.
That's why Iran told him to start firing off thousands of Iran supplied rockets into Israel. To distract from the FACT that the average Palestinian has fucking had it with living in a violent shithole sand dune. The Palestinian youth have the fucking internet and they fucking KNOW they are being controlled by a bunch of toothless stinking psychopaths who would rather buy bullets than buy food for their granddaughters AKA their future sex slaves.

Wrong.
The election was cancelled because Israel would not allow voting stations in any of the contested areas, which is the entire West Bank.
All the problems in Palestine are caused deliberately by Israel.

Link from a non-Arab site?

{...
Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS’HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh’s town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour’s drive away.

But unlike his Jewish neighbors, he can’t vote in next week’s elections.

Saleh is among the 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank who have no voice in choosing Israel’s next government and no control over whether it decides to annex part or all of the occupied territory, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to do . With the peace process having sputtered to a halt a decade ago, they also have little hope of getting a state of their own anytime soon.
...}

Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS'HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh's town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour's drive away.

apnews.com

He's not a citizen of Israel, so why should he be allowed to vote in their elections?

He is on land controlled by the government of Israel.
Israel either has to retreat back to the 1948 partition, or allow all the Arabs in the occupied lands to vote in Israeli elections.

Not true. Palestinians are a gang of criminals. They are not entitled to anything you claim.

Nonsense.
Palestinians did their part to help the Allies in WWI, and it is the Allies that criminally failed to liberate Palestine as required by treaty.
The Zionists of Israel are all illegal immigrants with illegal US weapons they used to murder Palestinians and steal land.

Does Israel have the right to exist?

Don't go there with Rigby!

Hamas is Sunni and Iran is Shiite.
Saudi Arabia is a more likely source of Hamas funding, since they are both Sunni.

Thats an over simplification

Iran is Israels sworn enemy

They would gladly fund hamas

Wrong.
In fact, Iran has never cared about Israel to ever get involved in a single conflict over Palestine.
Iran just says Israel will collapse on its own since it is minority rule.

You're right; Iran was simply busy attacking Iraq.

The war between Iran and Iraq ended in 1988.

The war ended but ISIS didn't get the message until Trump MOABed them.

Wrong.
ISIS is not Iranian but Iraqi Sunni that were put out of work by the US supporting the Shiites instead.
ISIS did not get created until the US was starting to leave Iraq and let out all its Sunni prisoners.

Muslims are cool; it doesn't take much to make them riot and murder.

They are too strict for my tastes, but they are exceedingly honest.

You are the world's biggest sucker. The Quran commands Moslems to lie to the Infidel.

Wrong.
The Quran actually normally forbids lying, but makes an exception only if the truth would cause someone else to be harmed.
You can only lie to protect the lives of others, like when the Gestapo ask where the Jews are hiding.
And by the way, the word "infidel" means a person lacking in fidelity, which means traitor, like an apostate.
It does not mean unbeliever.
But Jews and Christians are not considered unbelievers either, as all Abrahamic religions were considered valid by Mohammad.

Quran (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie. Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly. Quran (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths is with pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway. (The next verse refers only to those who have a personal agreement with Muhammad as individuals - see Ibn Kathir vol 4, p 49) Quran (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you the dissolution of your oaths..." The circumstances for the reader today are not specified, leaving this verse open to interpretation. According to Yusuf Ali in his commentary: "if your vows prevent you from doing good, or acting rightly, or making peace between persons, you should expiate the vow." Presumably, whatever advances the cause of Islam would qualify as 'doing good'. Quran (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who had to "hide his faith" among those who are not believers. Quran (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but or the intention in your hearts" (see also 5:89) Quran (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which means 'cunning,' 'guile' and 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21) Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.

Hadith and Sira​ Sahih Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed companions by Muhammad's men after they were "guaranteed" safe passage (see Additional Notes below). Sahih Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means. Sahih Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permitted in order to deceive an "enemy." The Quran defines the 'enemy' as "disbelievers" (4:101). Sahih Muslim (32:6303) - "...he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them)." Sahih Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered. From Islamic Law: Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) - "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression... (See the Permissible Lying section on the Sharia page for more) "One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie."

That is stupid.
We already covered that all religions allow lying to save lives, like when the Gestapo asks where the Jews are hiding.

 

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AP/AJ are huge Hamas/Iran supporters.
A child knows this fact.
These fuckers have been having lunch in the building every fucking day with Hamas leaders.
Israel showed Biden 100% proof that Hamas had been operating out of the building with the full knowledge of AP/AJ.

And why shouldn't the press be supporters of Hamas, the democratically elected representatives of Palestine?
The government of Palestine, operates out of almost all the commercial buildings in Gaza.
They run all the schools, utilities, libraries, etc.

Why did Abbas cancel the 'election' asshole?
B/c he KNEW he wouldn't get reelected.
That's why Iran told him to start firing off thousands of Iran supplied rockets into Israel. To distract from the FACT that the average Palestinian has fucking had it with living in a violent shithole sand dune. The Palestinian youth have the fucking internet and they fucking KNOW they are being controlled by a bunch of toothless stinking psychopaths who would rather buy bullets than buy food for their granddaughters AKA their future sex slaves.

Wrong.
The election was cancelled because Israel would not allow voting stations in any of the contested areas, which is the entire West Bank.
All the problems in Palestine are caused deliberately by Israel.

Link from a non-Arab site?

{...
Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS’HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh’s town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour’s drive away.

But unlike his Jewish neighbors, he can’t vote in next week’s elections.

Saleh is among the 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank who have no voice in choosing Israel’s next government and no control over whether it decides to annex part or all of the occupied territory, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to do . With the peace process having sputtered to a halt a decade ago, they also have little hope of getting a state of their own anytime soon.
...}

Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS'HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh's town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour's drive away.

apnews.com

He's not a citizen of Israel, so why should he be allowed to vote in their elections?

He is on land controlled by the government of Israel.
Israel either has to retreat back to the 1948 partition, or allow all the Arabs in the occupied lands to vote in Israeli elections.

Not true. Palestinians are a gang of criminals. They are not entitled to anything you claim.

Nonsense.
Palestinians did their part to help the Allies in WWI, and it is the Allies that criminally failed to liberate Palestine as required by treaty.
The Zionists of Israel are all illegal immigrants with illegal US weapons they used to murder Palestinians and steal land.

Does Israel have the right to exist?

Don't go there with Rigby!

Hamas is Sunni and Iran is Shiite.
Saudi Arabia is a more likely source of Hamas funding, since they are both Sunni.

Thats an over simplification

Iran is Israels sworn enemy

They would gladly fund hamas

Wrong.
In fact, Iran has never cared about Israel to ever get involved in a single conflict over Palestine.
Iran just says Israel will collapse on its own since it is minority rule.

You're right; Iran was simply busy attacking Iraq.

The war between Iran and Iraq ended in 1988.

The war ended but ISIS didn't get the message until Trump MOABed them.

Wrong.
ISIS is not Iranian but Iraqi Sunni that were put out of work by the US supporting the Shiites instead.
ISIS did not get created until the US was starting to leave Iraq and let out all its Sunni prisoners.

Muslims are cool; it doesn't take much to make them riot and murder.

They are too strict for my tastes, but they are exceedingly honest.

You are the world's biggest sucker. The Quran commands Moslems to lie to the Infidel.

Wrong.
The Quran actually normally forbids lying, but makes an exception only if the truth would cause someone else to be harmed.
You can only lie to protect the lives of others, like when the Gestapo ask where the Jews are hiding.
And by the way, the word "infidel" means a person lacking in fidelity, which means traitor, like an apostate.
It does not mean unbeliever.
But Jews and Christians are not considered unbelievers either, as all Abrahamic religions were considered valid by Mohammad.

The Koran allows a Muslim to lie to a non-Muslim which is why Napolean had to shoot an entire troop of Muslims who attacked his troops after swearing not to attack.

Napoleon was the attacker.

Yes, and the Arabs broke their oath.
What's you point?
When are you going to list every population that was displaced after WWII?

 

[Rigby5]

Bullshit

Learn to deal with facts and not expect media to be sycophants to your bias.

Instead they should be shills for your favorite ideologies? That's not how I see things.
Do you miss Pravda?

So, in your mind if the media isn't shilling for you bias it's shilling for someone else? s reporting of events and news ever not biased your sycophant's mind?

We know the media shills for the left and Muslim terrorists.

How can Muslims be "terrorists" when they are just defending their homelands?

Israel is not their homeland, moron.

WRONG!
Go read some history books.
Hebrew did not come from Palestine, but the Sinai.
Why do you think they went to Egypt for 400 years to escape a drought in the Sinai, if they came from Palestine, which never had a drought like that.
And why is it Palestine then was known of the Land of Canaan if it was the homeland of the Hebrew?
The Hebrew did invade around 1000 BC, but only ruled for a couple hundred years before being defeated and driven out by the Babylonians. They kept sneaking back, but were later defeated and driven out again and again, by the Assyrians and finally the Romans
The Hebrew never belonged there and were always illegal, brutal, invaders.
And they again were illegal foreign invaders in 1948.
They do not belong there.
It is NOT their homeland and never was.

Counter argument since YOU OFFERED NO LINKS...JUST your guesses.
Why is it so difficult to provide sources? As a result I assume you are guessing!

Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947; Israel's admission to the UN in 1949; the recognition of Israel by most other states; and, most of all, the society created by Israel's people in decades of thriving, dynamic national existence.​

Jewish Claim To The Land Of Israel

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

That is easy to prove is lies.

First of all, lets establish that Joshua was a brutal invader who massacred the native Canaanite in Jerusalem, around 1000 BC.
Then lets prove the claim of uninterrupted Jewish settlement is a lie.
Did not the the Assyrians defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 701 BC?
Did not the the Babylonians defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 587 BC?
Did not the the Romans defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 70 AD?
Did not the Crusaders massacre any remaining Jews from 1099 on?

As for the Balfour Declaration, England did not own Palestine at the time, so was invalid.
But it never intended or gave any hint of Jewish ownership, only facilitated immigration.
Read the Churchill Whitepaper of 1922.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922

{...

Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
...}

And as for who does own Palestine, I suggest you refer to the Treaty of San Remo and Treaty of Sevres, which legally created the Moslem Palestine as agreed by the British for helping the Allies in WWI.
The British Mandate for Palestine was not a whim, but a contractual obligation to the Arab Moslems.

And finally, the hundreds of war crime resolution by the UN against Israel invalidate it utterly.
There has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel.

Where are you FACTS supporting your personal opinion such as "there has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel"...

Question for you:
Would you consider a country that committed the following as more criminally than Israel?

Indeed, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, the literary giant who wrote harrowingly about the Soviet gulag system, claimed the true number of Stalin’s victims might have been as high as 60 million.

How Many People Did Joseph Stalin Kill?

Most reputed scholars and historians estimate that the number of people Stalin killed ranges from between 20 and 60 million.

www.ibtimes.com

Or how about this country:
From 1958 to 1962, his Great Leap Forward policy led to the deaths of up to 45 million people – easily making it the biggest episode of mass murder ever recorded.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/08/03/giving-historys-greatest-mass-murderer-his-due/

Now why should ANY ONE believe anything you write because right with this stupidly ignorant statement you show that anything you write is totally biased. Totally ignorant. AND truly unsubstantiated.
Compared to 100 million killed by Stalin/Mao i.e Communists which evidently (YOU ARE)... where do you get off on saying ""there has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel"...
Don't you see that anyone who reads that and knows history will say that guy is crazy!

This asshole believes "Palestine" is a real country but Israel isn't.

The natives are Palestinian, while the Zionists are all illegal immigrants, mostly from Poland and Russia.
Palestine was made in 1920 by world treaty and legal obligation.
Israel was created essentially by Truman's unilateral fiat in 1949.

There's no such country as Palestine, and the people who claim they are Palestinian are almost entirely from somewhere else.

That makes no sense.
Palestine, (AKA the Land of Canaan, the Levant, etc.,) is always described as the most popular and densely populated in the entire Mideast.
The Oranges of Jaffa were world famous in the 1800s.
In 1922 the census says 3/4 of a million Palestinians, with only 4% being Jewish.
(It actually would have been higher total, but WWI and disease brought it down.)
So then how could 3/4 of a million Palestinian, mostly Moslem, not be a Palestine in 1922?
Especially since Palestine had just been legally mandated by treaty in 1920?

Canaan is one thing, and Palestine was another. The later was a creation of the United Nations. It wasn't a country.

You wouldn't ask questions like you did if you had simply read the facts. There has never been a country called Palestine. The territory the UN put Britain in charge of was divided up into Israel and Jordan. The so-called "Palestinians" are actually Jordanians.

Wrong.
Palestine was created by the League of Nations, the Treaty of San Remo, the Treaty of Sevres, and the Allies from WWI, in 1920.
That was before the UN was created in 1945.
The UN had nothing to do with creating Palestine in 1920.

The British were mandated only to create an Arab Palestine, and there is no legal basis for Israel.
Read the Churchill Whitepaper of 1922.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922

{...
Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
...}

Your article only supports what I've been saying.

No it does not.
It says that Palestine is to be Arab and Moslem, but that Jews are to be allowed immigration as long as they stay below the limit.
There is never to be a Jewish state.

Wrong, idiot:

Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.'​

A Jewish home means facilitated immigration.
It does not mean a state religion.
It clearly says the home for Jews would be within the greater Arab Moslem Palestine.
Which at this time was 95% Arab Moslem..

Read the next sentence:
{,,, It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government. ...}
The Jews were only being granted such liberal immigration because they had vowed to have no part in the government of Palestine.
There was to be no Israel.
The Jews were lying and always intended to steal all of Palestine.

Spare us. I've had enough of your weaseling about delusional Palestinians and their imaginary homeland.

Wrong.
I have well documented the proof of Palestine's legal creation in 1920.

 

[bripat9643]

AP/AJ are huge Hamas/Iran supporters.
A child knows this fact.
These fuckers have been having lunch in the building every fucking day with Hamas leaders.
Israel showed Biden 100% proof that Hamas had been operating out of the building with the full knowledge of AP/AJ.

And why shouldn't the press be supporters of Hamas, the democratically elected representatives of Palestine?
The government of Palestine, operates out of almost all the commercial buildings in Gaza.
They run all the schools, utilities, libraries, etc.

Why did Abbas cancel the 'election' asshole?
B/c he KNEW he wouldn't get reelected.
That's why Iran told him to start firing off thousands of Iran supplied rockets into Israel. To distract from the FACT that the average Palestinian has fucking had it with living in a violent shithole sand dune. The Palestinian youth have the fucking internet and they fucking KNOW they are being controlled by a bunch of toothless stinking psychopaths who would rather buy bullets than buy food for their granddaughters AKA their future sex slaves.

Wrong.
The election was cancelled because Israel would not allow voting stations in any of the contested areas, which is the entire West Bank.
All the problems in Palestine are caused deliberately by Israel.

Link from a non-Arab site?

{...
Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS’HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh’s town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour’s drive away.

But unlike his Jewish neighbors, he can’t vote in next week’s elections.

Saleh is among the 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank who have no voice in choosing Israel’s next government and no control over whether it decides to annex part or all of the occupied territory, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to do . With the peace process having sputtered to a halt a decade ago, they also have little hope of getting a state of their own anytime soon.
...}

Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS'HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh's town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour's drive away.

apnews.com

He's not a citizen of Israel, so why should he be allowed to vote in their elections?

He is on land controlled by the government of Israel.
Israel either has to retreat back to the 1948 partition, or allow all the Arabs in the occupied lands to vote in Israeli elections.

Not true. Palestinians are a gang of criminals. They are not entitled to anything you claim.

Nonsense.
Palestinians did their part to help the Allies in WWI, and it is the Allies that criminally failed to liberate Palestine as required by treaty.
The Zionists of Israel are all illegal immigrants with illegal US weapons they used to murder Palestinians and steal land.

Does Israel have the right to exist?

Don't go there with Rigby!

Hamas is Sunni and Iran is Shiite.
Saudi Arabia is a more likely source of Hamas funding, since they are both Sunni.

Thats an over simplification

Iran is Israels sworn enemy

They would gladly fund hamas

Wrong.
In fact, Iran has never cared about Israel to ever get involved in a single conflict over Palestine.
Iran just says Israel will collapse on its own since it is minority rule.

You're right; Iran was simply busy attacking Iraq.

The war between Iran and Iraq ended in 1988.

The war ended but ISIS didn't get the message until Trump MOABed them.

Wrong.
ISIS is not Iranian but Iraqi Sunni that were put out of work by the US supporting the Shiites instead.
ISIS did not get created until the US was starting to leave Iraq and let out all its Sunni prisoners.

Muslims are cool; it doesn't take much to make them riot and murder.

They are too strict for my tastes, but they are exceedingly honest.

You are the world's biggest sucker. The Quran commands Moslems to lie to the Infidel.

Wrong.
The Quran actually normally forbids lying, but makes an exception only if the truth would cause someone else to be harmed.
You can only lie to protect the lives of others, like when the Gestapo ask where the Jews are hiding.
And by the way, the word "infidel" means a person lacking in fidelity, which means traitor, like an apostate.
It does not mean unbeliever.
But Jews and Christians are not considered unbelievers either, as all Abrahamic religions were considered valid by Mohammad.

Quran (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie. Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly. Quran (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths is with pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway. (The next verse refers only to those who have a personal agreement with Muhammad as individuals - see Ibn Kathir vol 4, p 49) Quran (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you the dissolution of your oaths..." The circumstances for the reader today are not specified, leaving this verse open to interpretation. According to Yusuf Ali in his commentary: "if your vows prevent you from doing good, or acting rightly, or making peace between persons, you should expiate the vow." Presumably, whatever advances the cause of Islam would qualify as 'doing good'. Quran (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who had to "hide his faith" among those who are not believers. Quran (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but or the intention in your hearts" (see also 5:89) Quran (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which means 'cunning,' 'guile' and 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21) Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.

Hadith and Sira​ Sahih Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed companions by Muhammad's men after they were "guaranteed" safe passage (see Additional Notes below). Sahih Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means. Sahih Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permitted in order to deceive an "enemy." The Quran defines the 'enemy' as "disbelievers" (4:101). Sahih Muslim (32:6303) - "...he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them)." Sahih Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered. From Islamic Law: Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) - "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression... (See the Permissible Lying section on the Sharia page for more) "One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie."

That is stupid.
We already covered that all religions allow lying to save lives, like when the Gestapo asks where the Jews are hiding.

The Quran and the Hadiths allow lying so that Moslems can kill the Infidel.

 

[Indeependent]

AP/AJ are huge Hamas/Iran supporters.
A child knows this fact.
These fuckers have been having lunch in the building every fucking day with Hamas leaders.
Israel showed Biden 100% proof that Hamas had been operating out of the building with the full knowledge of AP/AJ.

And why shouldn't the press be supporters of Hamas, the democratically elected representatives of Palestine?
The government of Palestine, operates out of almost all the commercial buildings in Gaza.
They run all the schools, utilities, libraries, etc.

Why did Abbas cancel the 'election' asshole?
B/c he KNEW he wouldn't get reelected.
That's why Iran told him to start firing off thousands of Iran supplied rockets into Israel. To distract from the FACT that the average Palestinian has fucking had it with living in a violent shithole sand dune. The Palestinian youth have the fucking internet and they fucking KNOW they are being controlled by a bunch of toothless stinking psychopaths who would rather buy bullets than buy food for their granddaughters AKA their future sex slaves.

Wrong.
The election was cancelled because Israel would not allow voting stations in any of the contested areas, which is the entire West Bank.
All the problems in Palestine are caused deliberately by Israel.

Link from a non-Arab site?

{...
Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS’HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh’s town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour’s drive away.

But unlike his Jewish neighbors, he can’t vote in next week’s elections.

Saleh is among the 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank who have no voice in choosing Israel’s next government and no control over whether it decides to annex part or all of the occupied territory, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to do . With the peace process having sputtered to a halt a decade ago, they also have little hope of getting a state of their own anytime soon.
...}

Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS'HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh's town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour's drive away.

apnews.com

He's not a citizen of Israel, so why should he be allowed to vote in their elections?

He is on land controlled by the government of Israel.
Israel either has to retreat back to the 1948 partition, or allow all the Arabs in the occupied lands to vote in Israeli elections.

Not true. Palestinians are a gang of criminals. They are not entitled to anything you claim.

Nonsense.
Palestinians did their part to help the Allies in WWI, and it is the Allies that criminally failed to liberate Palestine as required by treaty.
The Zionists of Israel are all illegal immigrants with illegal US weapons they used to murder Palestinians and steal land.

Does Israel have the right to exist?

Don't go there with Rigby!

Hamas is Sunni and Iran is Shiite.
Saudi Arabia is a more likely source of Hamas funding, since they are both Sunni.

Thats an over simplification

Iran is Israels sworn enemy

They would gladly fund hamas

Wrong.
In fact, Iran has never cared about Israel to ever get involved in a single conflict over Palestine.
Iran just says Israel will collapse on its own since it is minority rule.

You're right; Iran was simply busy attacking Iraq.

The war between Iran and Iraq ended in 1988.

The war ended but ISIS didn't get the message until Trump MOABed them.

Wrong.
ISIS is not Iranian but Iraqi Sunni that were put out of work by the US supporting the Shiites instead.
ISIS did not get created until the US was starting to leave Iraq and let out all its Sunni prisoners.

Muslims are cool; it doesn't take much to make them riot and murder.

They are too strict for my tastes, but they are exceedingly honest.

You are the world's biggest sucker. The Quran commands Moslems to lie to the Infidel.

Wrong.
The Quran actually normally forbids lying, but makes an exception only if the truth would cause someone else to be harmed.
You can only lie to protect the lives of others, like when the Gestapo ask where the Jews are hiding.
And by the way, the word "infidel" means a person lacking in fidelity, which means traitor, like an apostate.
It does not mean unbeliever.
But Jews and Christians are not considered unbelievers either, as all Abrahamic religions were considered valid by Mohammad.

Quran (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie. Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly. Quran (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths is with pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway. (The next verse refers only to those who have a personal agreement with Muhammad as individuals - see Ibn Kathir vol 4, p 49) Quran (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you the dissolution of your oaths..." The circumstances for the reader today are not specified, leaving this verse open to interpretation. According to Yusuf Ali in his commentary: "if your vows prevent you from doing good, or acting rightly, or making peace between persons, you should expiate the vow." Presumably, whatever advances the cause of Islam would qualify as 'doing good'. Quran (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who had to "hide his faith" among those who are not believers. Quran (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but or the intention in your hearts" (see also 5:89) Quran (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which means 'cunning,' 'guile' and 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21) Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.

Hadith and Sira​ Sahih Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed companions by Muhammad's men after they were "guaranteed" safe passage (see Additional Notes below). Sahih Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means. Sahih Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permitted in order to deceive an "enemy." The Quran defines the 'enemy' as "disbelievers" (4:101). Sahih Muslim (32:6303) - "...he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them)." Sahih Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered. From Islamic Law: Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) - "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression... (See the Permissible Lying section on the Sharia page for more) "One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie."

That is stupid.
We already covered that all religions allow lying to save lives, like when the Gestapo asks where the Jews are hiding.

We are discussing Biblical permission to lie.
A Muslim can lie about a business deal and get 72 vaginas.

 

[bripat9643]

Bullshit

Learn to deal with facts and not expect media to be sycophants to your bias.

Instead they should be shills for your favorite ideologies? That's not how I see things.
Do you miss Pravda?

So, in your mind if the media isn't shilling for you bias it's shilling for someone else? s reporting of events and news ever not biased your sycophant's mind?

We know the media shills for the left and Muslim terrorists.

How can Muslims be "terrorists" when they are just defending their homelands?

Israel is not their homeland, moron.

WRONG!
Go read some history books.
Hebrew did not come from Palestine, but the Sinai.
Why do you think they went to Egypt for 400 years to escape a drought in the Sinai, if they came from Palestine, which never had a drought like that.
And why is it Palestine then was known of the Land of Canaan if it was the homeland of the Hebrew?
The Hebrew did invade around 1000 BC, but only ruled for a couple hundred years before being defeated and driven out by the Babylonians. They kept sneaking back, but were later defeated and driven out again and again, by the Assyrians and finally the Romans
The Hebrew never belonged there and were always illegal, brutal, invaders.
And they again were illegal foreign invaders in 1948.
They do not belong there.
It is NOT their homeland and never was.

Counter argument since YOU OFFERED NO LINKS...JUST your guesses.
Why is it so difficult to provide sources? As a result I assume you are guessing!

Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947; Israel's admission to the UN in 1949; the recognition of Israel by most other states; and, most of all, the society created by Israel's people in decades of thriving, dynamic national existence.​

Jewish Claim To The Land Of Israel

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

That is easy to prove is lies.

First of all, lets establish that Joshua was a brutal invader who massacred the native Canaanite in Jerusalem, around 1000 BC.
Then lets prove the claim of uninterrupted Jewish settlement is a lie.
Did not the the Assyrians defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 701 BC?
Did not the the Babylonians defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 587 BC?
Did not the the Romans defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 70 AD?
Did not the Crusaders massacre any remaining Jews from 1099 on?

As for the Balfour Declaration, England did not own Palestine at the time, so was invalid.
But it never intended or gave any hint of Jewish ownership, only facilitated immigration.
Read the Churchill Whitepaper of 1922.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922

{...

Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
...}

And as for who does own Palestine, I suggest you refer to the Treaty of San Remo and Treaty of Sevres, which legally created the Moslem Palestine as agreed by the British for helping the Allies in WWI.
The British Mandate for Palestine was not a whim, but a contractual obligation to the Arab Moslems.

And finally, the hundreds of war crime resolution by the UN against Israel invalidate it utterly.
There has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel.

Where are you FACTS supporting your personal opinion such as "there has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel"...

Question for you:
Would you consider a country that committed the following as more criminally than Israel?

Indeed, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, the literary giant who wrote harrowingly about the Soviet gulag system, claimed the true number of Stalin’s victims might have been as high as 60 million.

How Many People Did Joseph Stalin Kill?

Most reputed scholars and historians estimate that the number of people Stalin killed ranges from between 20 and 60 million.

www.ibtimes.com

Or how about this country:
From 1958 to 1962, his Great Leap Forward policy led to the deaths of up to 45 million people – easily making it the biggest episode of mass murder ever recorded.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/08/03/giving-historys-greatest-mass-murderer-his-due/

Now why should ANY ONE believe anything you write because right with this stupidly ignorant statement you show that anything you write is totally biased. Totally ignorant. AND truly unsubstantiated.
Compared to 100 million killed by Stalin/Mao i.e Communists which evidently (YOU ARE)... where do you get off on saying ""there has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel"...
Don't you see that anyone who reads that and knows history will say that guy is crazy!

This asshole believes "Palestine" is a real country but Israel isn't.

The natives are Palestinian, while the Zionists are all illegal immigrants, mostly from Poland and Russia.
Palestine was made in 1920 by world treaty and legal obligation.
Israel was created essentially by Truman's unilateral fiat in 1949.

There's no such country as Palestine, and the people who claim they are Palestinian are almost entirely from somewhere else.

That makes no sense.
Palestine, (AKA the Land of Canaan, the Levant, etc.,) is always described as the most popular and densely populated in the entire Mideast.
The Oranges of Jaffa were world famous in the 1800s.
In 1922 the census says 3/4 of a million Palestinians, with only 4% being Jewish.
(It actually would have been higher total, but WWI and disease brought it down.)
So then how could 3/4 of a million Palestinian, mostly Moslem, not be a Palestine in 1922?
Especially since Palestine had just been legally mandated by treaty in 1920?

Canaan is one thing, and Palestine was another. The later was a creation of the United Nations. It wasn't a country.

You wouldn't ask questions like you did if you had simply read the facts. There has never been a country called Palestine. The territory the UN put Britain in charge of was divided up into Israel and Jordan. The so-called "Palestinians" are actually Jordanians.

Wrong.
Palestine was created by the League of Nations, the Treaty of San Remo, the Treaty of Sevres, and the Allies from WWI, in 1920.
That was before the UN was created in 1945.
The UN had nothing to do with creating Palestine in 1920.

The British were mandated only to create an Arab Palestine, and there is no legal basis for Israel.
Read the Churchill Whitepaper of 1922.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922

{...
Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
...}

Your article only supports what I've been saying.

No it does not.
It says that Palestine is to be Arab and Moslem, but that Jews are to be allowed immigration as long as they stay below the limit.
There is never to be a Jewish state.

Wrong, idiot:

Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.'​

A Jewish home means facilitated immigration.
It does not mean a state religion.
It clearly says the home for Jews would be within the greater Arab Moslem Palestine.
Which at this time was 95% Arab Moslem..

Read the next sentence:
{,,, It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government. ...}
The Jews were only being granted such liberal immigration because they had vowed to have no part in the government of Palestine.
There was to be no Israel.
The Jews were lying and always intended to steal all of Palestine.

Spare us. I've had enough of your weaseling about delusional Palestinians and their imaginary homeland.

Wrong.
I have well documented the proof of Palestine's legal creation in 1920.

No nation called Palestine was created in 1920, moron.

 

[Indeependent]

Bullshit

Learn to deal with facts and not expect media to be sycophants to your bias.

Instead they should be shills for your favorite ideologies? That's not how I see things.
Do you miss Pravda?

So, in your mind if the media isn't shilling for you bias it's shilling for someone else? s reporting of events and news ever not biased your sycophant's mind?

We know the media shills for the left and Muslim terrorists.

How can Muslims be "terrorists" when they are just defending their homelands?

Israel is not their homeland, moron.

WRONG!
Go read some history books.
Hebrew did not come from Palestine, but the Sinai.
Why do you think they went to Egypt for 400 years to escape a drought in the Sinai, if they came from Palestine, which never had a drought like that.
And why is it Palestine then was known of the Land of Canaan if it was the homeland of the Hebrew?
The Hebrew did invade around 1000 BC, but only ruled for a couple hundred years before being defeated and driven out by the Babylonians. They kept sneaking back, but were later defeated and driven out again and again, by the Assyrians and finally the Romans
The Hebrew never belonged there and were always illegal, brutal, invaders.
And they again were illegal foreign invaders in 1948.
They do not belong there.
It is NOT their homeland and never was.

Counter argument since YOU OFFERED NO LINKS...JUST your guesses.
Why is it so difficult to provide sources? As a result I assume you are guessing!

Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947; Israel's admission to the UN in 1949; the recognition of Israel by most other states; and, most of all, the society created by Israel's people in decades of thriving, dynamic national existence.​

Jewish Claim To The Land Of Israel

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

That is easy to prove is lies.

First of all, lets establish that Joshua was a brutal invader who massacred the native Canaanite in Jerusalem, around 1000 BC.
Then lets prove the claim of uninterrupted Jewish settlement is a lie.
Did not the the Assyrians defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 701 BC?
Did not the the Babylonians defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 587 BC?
Did not the the Romans defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 70 AD?
Did not the Crusaders massacre any remaining Jews from 1099 on?

As for the Balfour Declaration, England did not own Palestine at the time, so was invalid.
But it never intended or gave any hint of Jewish ownership, only facilitated immigration.
Read the Churchill Whitepaper of 1922.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922

{...

Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
...}

And as for who does own Palestine, I suggest you refer to the Treaty of San Remo and Treaty of Sevres, which legally created the Moslem Palestine as agreed by the British for helping the Allies in WWI.
The British Mandate for Palestine was not a whim, but a contractual obligation to the Arab Moslems.

And finally, the hundreds of war crime resolution by the UN against Israel invalidate it utterly.
There has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel.

Where are you FACTS supporting your personal opinion such as "there has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel"...

Question for you:
Would you consider a country that committed the following as more criminally than Israel?

Indeed, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, the literary giant who wrote harrowingly about the Soviet gulag system, claimed the true number of Stalin’s victims might have been as high as 60 million.

How Many People Did Joseph Stalin Kill?

Most reputed scholars and historians estimate that the number of people Stalin killed ranges from between 20 and 60 million.

www.ibtimes.com

Or how about this country:
From 1958 to 1962, his Great Leap Forward policy led to the deaths of up to 45 million people – easily making it the biggest episode of mass murder ever recorded.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/08/03/giving-historys-greatest-mass-murderer-his-due/

Now why should ANY ONE believe anything you write because right with this stupidly ignorant statement you show that anything you write is totally biased. Totally ignorant. AND truly unsubstantiated.
Compared to 100 million killed by Stalin/Mao i.e Communists which evidently (YOU ARE)... where do you get off on saying ""there has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel"...
Don't you see that anyone who reads that and knows history will say that guy is crazy!

This asshole believes "Palestine" is a real country but Israel isn't.

The natives are Palestinian, while the Zionists are all illegal immigrants, mostly from Poland and Russia.
Palestine was made in 1920 by world treaty and legal obligation.
Israel was created essentially by Truman's unilateral fiat in 1949.

There's no such country as Palestine, and the people who claim they are Palestinian are almost entirely from somewhere else.

That makes no sense.
Palestine, (AKA the Land of Canaan, the Levant, etc.,) is always described as the most popular and densely populated in the entire Mideast.
The Oranges of Jaffa were world famous in the 1800s.
In 1922 the census says 3/4 of a million Palestinians, with only 4% being Jewish.
(It actually would have been higher total, but WWI and disease brought it down.)
So then how could 3/4 of a million Palestinian, mostly Moslem, not be a Palestine in 1922?
Especially since Palestine had just been legally mandated by treaty in 1920?

Canaan is one thing, and Palestine was another. The later was a creation of the United Nations. It wasn't a country.

You wouldn't ask questions like you did if you had simply read the facts. There has never been a country called Palestine. The territory the UN put Britain in charge of was divided up into Israel and Jordan. The so-called "Palestinians" are actually Jordanians.

Wrong.
Palestine was created by the League of Nations, the Treaty of San Remo, the Treaty of Sevres, and the Allies from WWI, in 1920.
That was before the UN was created in 1945.
The UN had nothing to do with creating Palestine in 1920.

The British were mandated only to create an Arab Palestine, and there is no legal basis for Israel.
Read the Churchill Whitepaper of 1922.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922

{...
Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
...}

Your article only supports what I've been saying.

No it does not.
It says that Palestine is to be Arab and Moslem, but that Jews are to be allowed immigration as long as they stay below the limit.
There is never to be a Jewish state.

Wrong, idiot:

Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.'​

A Jewish home means facilitated immigration.
It does not mean a state religion.
It clearly says the home for Jews would be within the greater Arab Moslem Palestine.
Which at this time was 95% Arab Moslem..

Read the next sentence:
{,,, It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government. ...}
The Jews were only being granted such liberal immigration because they had vowed to have no part in the government of Palestine.
There was to be no Israel.
The Jews were lying and always intended to steal all of Palestine.

Spare us. I've had enough of your weaseling about delusional Palestinians and their imaginary homeland.

Wrong.
I have well documented the proof of Palestine's legal creation in 1920.

Where?
In disparate, out of chronological order and out of context posts.

 

[Rigby5]

You people are remarkably forgiving of the only other country in the world that can make the decision that America will go to war.

Israel obliterates Gaza headquarters of AP and Al Jazeera… Boom and it’s gone…​

Israel obliterates Gaza headquarters of AP and Al Jazeera… Boom and it’s gone…

UPDATE “After Operation Protective Edge in 2014, former AP reporter Matti Friedman wrote in The Atlantic: “Hamas understood that reporters could be intimidated when necessary and that they w…

citizenfreepress.com

Just wait... Biden and his infidel believers will criticize Israel just as

Press advocates condemn Israeli missile strike on media building​

The Associated Press, Al Jazeera and other press advocates condemned the Israeli air strike on Saturday that blew up the building housing them and other media outlets.
Reporters for AP and Al Jazeera were forced to evacuate the 12-story building after the owner was warned that it would be targeted. Israeli forces struck the building an hour later, causing it to completely collapse.

Press advocates condemn Israeli missile strike on media building

The Associated Press, Al Jazeera and other press advocates condemned the Israeli airstrike on Saturday that blew up the building housing them and other media outlets.AP President and CEO Gary Pruit…

thehill.com

By the way... has Hamas given anyone warnings about these attacks?

IMRA - Sunday, April 18, 2004 A Chronology of Terrorist Attacks Carried out by Hamas Since September 2000

www.imra.org.il

Well, the Israelis have done this sort of stuff for 70 years.

You mean attack their enemies? That's why we admire them.

Israelis attacked the worshippers at AlAqsa.. They engineered this fight so they could kill more Palestinians.

No, they didn't. More propaganda. Hamas had staged the weapons inside the mosque. The western narrative is a joke. Hamas started this by firing off more than 1500 rockets. Hamas needs to be annihilated.

Right proof

Hamas had staged the weapons inside the mosque.... Proof...

Hamas started this by firing off more than 1500 rockets.... Prove that Hamas actually did this and it wasn't Jihad...

Wrong.
There is no proof of any weapons from mosques, schools, hospitals, or any other questionable source.
The recent rockets were more than justified retaliation over the recent murder and land confiscations.

Sorry don't believe anything you write! NO substantiation! NO LINKS! ONLY your subjective and personalized opinion!

Liar.
I have quoted and linked more than anyone else on this board.
I am also right.

 

[BS Filter]

AP/AJ are huge Hamas/Iran supporters.
A child knows this fact.
These fuckers have been having lunch in the building every fucking day with Hamas leaders.
Israel showed Biden 100% proof that Hamas had been operating out of the building with the full knowledge of AP/AJ.

And why shouldn't the press be supporters of Hamas, the democratically elected representatives of Palestine?
The government of Palestine, operates out of almost all the commercial buildings in Gaza.
They run all the schools, utilities, libraries, etc.

Why did Abbas cancel the 'election' asshole?
B/c he KNEW he wouldn't get reelected.
That's why Iran told him to start firing off thousands of Iran supplied rockets into Israel. To distract from the FACT that the average Palestinian has fucking had it with living in a violent shithole sand dune. The Palestinian youth have the fucking internet and they fucking KNOW they are being controlled by a bunch of toothless stinking psychopaths who would rather buy bullets than buy food for their granddaughters AKA their future sex slaves.

Wrong.
The election was cancelled because Israel would not allow voting stations in any of the contested areas, which is the entire West Bank.
All the problems in Palestine are caused deliberately by Israel.

Link from a non-Arab site?

{...
Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS’HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh’s town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour’s drive away.

But unlike his Jewish neighbors, he can’t vote in next week’s elections.

Saleh is among the 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank who have no voice in choosing Israel’s next government and no control over whether it decides to annex part or all of the occupied territory, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to do . With the peace process having sputtered to a halt a decade ago, they also have little hope of getting a state of their own anytime soon.
...}

Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS'HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh's town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour's drive away.

apnews.com

He's not a citizen of Israel, so why should he be allowed to vote in their elections?

He is on land controlled by the government of Israel.
Israel either has to retreat back to the 1948 partition, or allow all the Arabs in the occupied lands to vote in Israeli elections.

Not true. Palestinians are a gang of criminals. They are not entitled to anything you claim.

Nonsense.
Palestinians did their part to help the Allies in WWI, and it is the Allies that criminally failed to liberate Palestine as required by treaty.
The Zionists of Israel are all illegal immigrants with illegal US weapons they used to murder Palestinians and steal land.

Does Israel have the right to exist?

Don't go there with Rigby!

Hamas is Sunni and Iran is Shiite.
Saudi Arabia is a more likely source of Hamas funding, since they are both Sunni.

Thats an over simplification

Iran is Israels sworn enemy

They would gladly fund hamas

Wrong.
In fact, Iran has never cared about Israel to ever get involved in a single conflict over Palestine.
Iran just says Israel will collapse on its own since it is minority rule.

You're right; Iran was simply busy attacking Iraq.

The war between Iran and Iraq ended in 1988.

The war ended but ISIS didn't get the message until Trump MOABed them.

Wrong.
ISIS is not Iranian but Iraqi Sunni that were put out of work by the US supporting the Shiites instead.
ISIS did not get created until the US was starting to leave Iraq and let out all its Sunni prisoners.

Muslims are cool; it doesn't take much to make them riot and murder.

They are too strict for my tastes, but they are exceedingly honest.

You are the world's biggest sucker. The Quran commands Moslems to lie to the Infidel.

Wrong.
The Quran actually normally forbids lying, but makes an exception only if the truth would cause someone else to be harmed.
You can only lie to protect the lives of others, like when the Gestapo ask where the Jews are hiding.
And by the way, the word "infidel" means a person lacking in fidelity, which means traitor, like an apostate.
It does not mean unbeliever.
But Jews and Christians are not considered unbelievers either, as all Abrahamic religions were considered valid by Mohammad.

Quran (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie. Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly. Quran (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths is with pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway. (The next verse refers only to those who have a personal agreement with Muhammad as individuals - see Ibn Kathir vol 4, p 49) Quran (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you the dissolution of your oaths..." The circumstances for the reader today are not specified, leaving this verse open to interpretation. According to Yusuf Ali in his commentary: "if your vows prevent you from doing good, or acting rightly, or making peace between persons, you should expiate the vow." Presumably, whatever advances the cause of Islam would qualify as 'doing good'. Quran (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who had to "hide his faith" among those who are not believers. Quran (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but or the intention in your hearts" (see also 5:89) Quran (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which means 'cunning,' 'guile' and 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21) Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.

Hadith and Sira​ Sahih Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed companions by Muhammad's men after they were "guaranteed" safe passage (see Additional Notes below). Sahih Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means. Sahih Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permitted in order to deceive an "enemy." The Quran defines the 'enemy' as "disbelievers" (4:101). Sahih Muslim (32:6303) - "...he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them)." Sahih Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered. From Islamic Law: Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) - "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression... (See the Permissible Lying section on the Sharia page for more) "One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie."

That is stupid.
We already covered that all religions allow lying to save lives, like when the Gestapo asks where the Jews are hiding.

Gestapo is a religion? You don't say. You're insane.

 

[Rigby5]

You people are remarkably forgiving of the only other country in the world that can make the decision that America will go to war.

Israel obliterates Gaza headquarters of AP and Al Jazeera… Boom and it’s gone…​

Israel obliterates Gaza headquarters of AP and Al Jazeera… Boom and it’s gone…

UPDATE “After Operation Protective Edge in 2014, former AP reporter Matti Friedman wrote in The Atlantic: “Hamas understood that reporters could be intimidated when necessary and that they w…

citizenfreepress.com

Just wait... Biden and his infidel believers will criticize Israel just as

Press advocates condemn Israeli missile strike on media building​

The Associated Press, Al Jazeera and other press advocates condemned the Israeli air strike on Saturday that blew up the building housing them and other media outlets.
Reporters for AP and Al Jazeera were forced to evacuate the 12-story building after the owner was warned that it would be targeted. Israeli forces struck the building an hour later, causing it to completely collapse.

Press advocates condemn Israeli missile strike on media building

The Associated Press, Al Jazeera and other press advocates condemned the Israeli airstrike on Saturday that blew up the building housing them and other media outlets.AP President and CEO Gary Pruit…

thehill.com

By the way... has Hamas given anyone warnings about these attacks?

IMRA - Sunday, April 18, 2004 A Chronology of Terrorist Attacks Carried out by Hamas Since September 2000

www.imra.org.il

Well, the Israelis have done this sort of stuff for 70 years.

You mean attack their enemies? That's why we admire them.

Israelis attacked the worshippers at AlAqsa.. They engineered this fight so they could kill more Palestinians.

No, they didn't. More propaganda. Hamas had staged the weapons inside the mosque. The western narrative is a joke. Hamas started this by firing off more than 1500 rockets. Hamas needs to be annihilated.

Right proof

Hamas had staged the weapons inside the mosque.... Proof...

Hamas started this by firing off more than 1500 rockets.... Prove that Hamas actually did this and it wasn't Jihad...

Wrong.
There is no proof of any weapons from mosques, schools, hospitals, or any other questionable source.
The recent rockets were more than justified retaliation over the recent murder and land confiscations.

land confiscations.

The Arabs stopped paying rent, you fucking moron.

Wrong.
There was never any rent.
It was always owned by Arabs.
They are calling it an eviction but it is an illegal confiscation.
It was illegal for anyone in the Ottoman Empire to sell property to Jews in Palestine.
So it is impossible for the property to be owned by Jews.
It is traditional Arab property.
And it is outside of Israel, so Israeli courts have no jurisdiction.

 

[Rigby5]

AP/AJ are huge Hamas/Iran supporters.
A child knows this fact.
These fuckers have been having lunch in the building every fucking day with Hamas leaders.
Israel showed Biden 100% proof that Hamas had been operating out of the building with the full knowledge of AP/AJ.

And why shouldn't the press be supporters of Hamas, the democratically elected representatives of Palestine?
The government of Palestine, operates out of almost all the commercial buildings in Gaza.
They run all the schools, utilities, libraries, etc.

Why did Abbas cancel the 'election' asshole?
B/c he KNEW he wouldn't get reelected.
That's why Iran told him to start firing off thousands of Iran supplied rockets into Israel. To distract from the FACT that the average Palestinian has fucking had it with living in a violent shithole sand dune. The Palestinian youth have the fucking internet and they fucking KNOW they are being controlled by a bunch of toothless stinking psychopaths who would rather buy bullets than buy food for their granddaughters AKA their future sex slaves.

Wrong.
The election was cancelled because Israel would not allow voting stations in any of the contested areas, which is the entire West Bank.
All the problems in Palestine are caused deliberately by Israel.

Link from a non-Arab site?

{...
Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS’HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh’s town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour’s drive away.

But unlike his Jewish neighbors, he can’t vote in next week’s elections.

Saleh is among the 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank who have no voice in choosing Israel’s next government and no control over whether it decides to annex part or all of the occupied territory, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to do . With the peace process having sputtered to a halt a decade ago, they also have little hope of getting a state of their own anytime soon.
...}

Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS'HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh's town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour's drive away.

apnews.com

He's not a citizen of Israel, so why should he be allowed to vote in their elections?

He is on land controlled by the government of Israel.
Israel either has to retreat back to the 1948 partition, or allow all the Arabs in the occupied lands to vote in Israeli elections.

Not true. Palestinians are a gang of criminals. They are not entitled to anything you claim.

Nonsense.
Palestinians did their part to help the Allies in WWI, and it is the Allies that criminally failed to liberate Palestine as required by treaty.
The Zionists of Israel are all illegal immigrants with illegal US weapons they used to murder Palestinians and steal land.

Does Israel have the right to exist?

Don't go there with Rigby!

Hamas is Sunni and Iran is Shiite.
Saudi Arabia is a more likely source of Hamas funding, since they are both Sunni.

Thats an over simplification

Iran is Israels sworn enemy

They would gladly fund hamas

Wrong.
In fact, Iran has never cared about Israel to ever get involved in a single conflict over Palestine.
Iran just says Israel will collapse on its own since it is minority rule.

You're right; Iran was simply busy attacking Iraq.

The war between Iran and Iraq ended in 1988.

The war ended but ISIS didn't get the message until Trump MOABed them.

Wrong.
ISIS is not Iranian but Iraqi Sunni that were put out of work by the US supporting the Shiites instead.
ISIS did not get created until the US was starting to leave Iraq and let out all its Sunni prisoners.

Muslims are cool; it doesn't take much to make them riot and murder.

They are too strict for my tastes, but they are exceedingly honest.

You are the world's biggest sucker. The Quran commands Moslems to lie to the Infidel.

Wrong.
The Quran actually normally forbids lying, but makes an exception only if the truth would cause someone else to be harmed.
You can only lie to protect the lives of others, like when the Gestapo ask where the Jews are hiding.
And by the way, the word "infidel" means a person lacking in fidelity, which means traitor, like an apostate.
It does not mean unbeliever.
But Jews and Christians are not considered unbelievers either, as all Abrahamic religions were considered valid by Mohammad.

The Koran allows a Muslim to lie to a non-Muslim which is why Napolean had to shoot an entire troop of Muslims who attacked his troops after swearing not to attack.

Napoleon was the attacker.

Yes, and the Arabs broke their oath.
What's you point?
When are you going to list every population that was displaced after WWII?

The point is that since Napoleon was an illegal attacker, then it was allowed to break an oath and lie.
Same as lying to the Gestapo. That is also allowed.

But Palestine and Jews had no part in WWII.
The war had nothing to do with the fact the Zionist illegally smuggled in weapons and blew up the British high command, leaving the Palestinians defenseless.

 

[Indeependent]

You people are remarkably forgiving of the only other country in the world that can make the decision that America will go to war.

Israel obliterates Gaza headquarters of AP and Al Jazeera… Boom and it’s gone…​

Israel obliterates Gaza headquarters of AP and Al Jazeera… Boom and it’s gone…

UPDATE “After Operation Protective Edge in 2014, former AP reporter Matti Friedman wrote in The Atlantic: “Hamas understood that reporters could be intimidated when necessary and that they w…

citizenfreepress.com

Just wait... Biden and his infidel believers will criticize Israel just as

Press advocates condemn Israeli missile strike on media building​

The Associated Press, Al Jazeera and other press advocates condemned the Israeli air strike on Saturday that blew up the building housing them and other media outlets.
Reporters for AP and Al Jazeera were forced to evacuate the 12-story building after the owner was warned that it would be targeted. Israeli forces struck the building an hour later, causing it to completely collapse.

Press advocates condemn Israeli missile strike on media building

The Associated Press, Al Jazeera and other press advocates condemned the Israeli airstrike on Saturday that blew up the building housing them and other media outlets.AP President and CEO Gary Pruit…

thehill.com

By the way... has Hamas given anyone warnings about these attacks?

IMRA - Sunday, April 18, 2004 A Chronology of Terrorist Attacks Carried out by Hamas Since September 2000

www.imra.org.il

Well, the Israelis have done this sort of stuff for 70 years.

You mean attack their enemies? That's why we admire them.

Israelis attacked the worshippers at AlAqsa.. They engineered this fight so they could kill more Palestinians.

No, they didn't. More propaganda. Hamas had staged the weapons inside the mosque. The western narrative is a joke. Hamas started this by firing off more than 1500 rockets. Hamas needs to be annihilated.

Right proof

Hamas had staged the weapons inside the mosque.... Proof...

Hamas started this by firing off more than 1500 rockets.... Prove that Hamas actually did this and it wasn't Jihad...

Wrong.
There is no proof of any weapons from mosques, schools, hospitals, or any other questionable source.
The recent rockets were more than justified retaliation over the recent murder and land confiscations.

land confiscations.

The Arabs stopped paying rent, you fucking moron.

Wrong.
There was never any rent.
It was always owned by Arabs.
They are calling it an eviction but it is an illegal confiscation.
It was illegal for anyone in the Ottoman Empire to sell property to Jews in Palestine.
So it is impossible for the property to be owned by Jews.
It is traditional Arab property.
And it is outside of Israel, so Israeli courts have no jurisdiction.

WTF are you taking about!

 

[Rigby5]

Bullshit

Learn to deal with facts and not expect media to be sycophants to your bias.

Instead they should be shills for your favorite ideologies? That's not how I see things.
Do you miss Pravda?

So, in your mind if the media isn't shilling for you bias it's shilling for someone else? s reporting of events and news ever not biased your sycophant's mind?

We know the media shills for the left and Muslim terrorists.

How can Muslims be "terrorists" when they are just defending their homelands?

Israel is not their homeland, moron.

WRONG!
Go read some history books.
Hebrew did not come from Palestine, but the Sinai.
Why do you think they went to Egypt for 400 years to escape a drought in the Sinai, if they came from Palestine, which never had a drought like that.
And why is it Palestine then was known of the Land of Canaan if it was the homeland of the Hebrew?
The Hebrew did invade around 1000 BC, but only ruled for a couple hundred years before being defeated and driven out by the Babylonians. They kept sneaking back, but were later defeated and driven out again and again, by the Assyrians and finally the Romans
The Hebrew never belonged there and were always illegal, brutal, invaders.
And they again were illegal foreign invaders in 1948.
They do not belong there.
It is NOT their homeland and never was.

Counter argument since YOU OFFERED NO LINKS...JUST your guesses.
Why is it so difficult to provide sources? As a result I assume you are guessing!

Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947; Israel's admission to the UN in 1949; the recognition of Israel by most other states; and, most of all, the society created by Israel's people in decades of thriving, dynamic national existence.​

Jewish Claim To The Land Of Israel

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

That is easy to prove is lies.

First of all, lets establish that Joshua was a brutal invader who massacred the native Canaanite in Jerusalem, around 1000 BC.
Then lets prove the claim of uninterrupted Jewish settlement is a lie.
Did not the the Assyrians defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 701 BC?
Did not the the Babylonians defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 587 BC?
Did not the the Romans defeat the Jews and force them all to leave in 70 AD?
Did not the Crusaders massacre any remaining Jews from 1099 on?

As for the Balfour Declaration, England did not own Palestine at the time, so was invalid.
But it never intended or gave any hint of Jewish ownership, only facilitated immigration.
Read the Churchill Whitepaper of 1922.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922

{...

Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
...}

And as for who does own Palestine, I suggest you refer to the Treaty of San Remo and Treaty of Sevres, which legally created the Moslem Palestine as agreed by the British for helping the Allies in WWI.
The British Mandate for Palestine was not a whim, but a contractual obligation to the Arab Moslems.

And finally, the hundreds of war crime resolution by the UN against Israel invalidate it utterly.
There has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel.

Where are you FACTS supporting your personal opinion such as "there has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel"...

Question for you:
Would you consider a country that committed the following as more criminally than Israel?

Indeed, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, the literary giant who wrote harrowingly about the Soviet gulag system, claimed the true number of Stalin’s victims might have been as high as 60 million.

How Many People Did Joseph Stalin Kill?

Most reputed scholars and historians estimate that the number of people Stalin killed ranges from between 20 and 60 million.

www.ibtimes.com

Or how about this country:
From 1958 to 1962, his Great Leap Forward policy led to the deaths of up to 45 million people – easily making it the biggest episode of mass murder ever recorded.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/08/03/giving-historys-greatest-mass-murderer-his-due/

Now why should ANY ONE believe anything you write because right with this stupidly ignorant statement you show that anything you write is totally biased. Totally ignorant. AND truly unsubstantiated.
Compared to 100 million killed by Stalin/Mao i.e Communists which evidently (YOU ARE)... where do you get off on saying ""there has hardly ever been such a criminal country as Israel"...
Don't you see that anyone who reads that and knows history will say that guy is crazy!

This asshole believes "Palestine" is a real country but Israel isn't.

The natives are Palestinian, while the Zionists are all illegal immigrants, mostly from Poland and Russia.
Palestine was made in 1920 by world treaty and legal obligation.
Israel was created essentially by Truman's unilateral fiat in 1949.

There's no such country as Palestine, and the people who claim they are Palestinian are almost entirely from somewhere else.

That makes no sense.
Palestine, (AKA the Land of Canaan, the Levant, etc.,) is always described as the most popular and densely populated in the entire Mideast.
The Oranges of Jaffa were world famous in the 1800s.
In 1922 the census says 3/4 of a million Palestinians, with only 4% being Jewish.
(It actually would have been higher total, but WWI and disease brought it down.)
So then how could 3/4 of a million Palestinian, mostly Moslem, not be a Palestine in 1922?
Especially since Palestine had just been legally mandated by treaty in 1920?

Canaan is one thing, and Palestine was another. The later was a creation of the United Nations. It wasn't a country.

You wouldn't ask questions like you did if you had simply read the facts. There has never been a country called Palestine. The territory the UN put Britain in charge of was divided up into Israel and Jordan. The so-called "Palestinians" are actually Jordanians.

Wrong.
Palestine was created by the League of Nations, the Treaty of San Remo, the Treaty of Sevres, and the Allies from WWI, in 1920.
That was before the UN was created in 1945.
The UN had nothing to do with creating Palestine in 1920.

The British were mandated only to create an Arab Palestine, and there is no legal basis for Israel.
Read the Churchill Whitepaper of 1922.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922

{...
Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
...}

Your article only supports what I've been saying.

No it does not.
It says that Palestine is to be Arab and Moslem, but that Jews are to be allowed immigration as long as they stay below the limit.
There is never to be a Jewish state.

Wrong, idiot:

Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.'​

A Jewish home means facilitated immigration.
It does not mean a state religion.
It clearly says the home for Jews would be within the greater Arab Moslem Palestine.
Which at this time was 95% Arab Moslem..

Read the next sentence:
{,,, It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government. ...}
The Jews were only being granted such liberal immigration because they had vowed to have no part in the government of Palestine.
There was to be no Israel.
The Jews were lying and always intended to steal all of Palestine.

Spare us. I've had enough of your weaseling about delusional Palestinians and their imaginary homeland.

Wrong.
I have well documented the proof of Palestine's legal creation in 1920.

No nation called Palestine was created in 1920, moron.

Oh, then why were the British given the British Mandate for Palestine in 1920?
A mandate means the British were to train the Palestine government to be able to survive on its own, with independence.

 

[BS Filter]

AP/AJ are huge Hamas/Iran supporters.
A child knows this fact.
These fuckers have been having lunch in the building every fucking day with Hamas leaders.
Israel showed Biden 100% proof that Hamas had been operating out of the building with the full knowledge of AP/AJ.

And why shouldn't the press be supporters of Hamas, the democratically elected representatives of Palestine?
The government of Palestine, operates out of almost all the commercial buildings in Gaza.
They run all the schools, utilities, libraries, etc.

Why did Abbas cancel the 'election' asshole?
B/c he KNEW he wouldn't get reelected.
That's why Iran told him to start firing off thousands of Iran supplied rockets into Israel. To distract from the FACT that the average Palestinian has fucking had it with living in a violent shithole sand dune. The Palestinian youth have the fucking internet and they fucking KNOW they are being controlled by a bunch of toothless stinking psychopaths who would rather buy bullets than buy food for their granddaughters AKA their future sex slaves.

Wrong.
The election was cancelled because Israel would not allow voting stations in any of the contested areas, which is the entire West Bank.
All the problems in Palestine are caused deliberately by Israel.

Link from a non-Arab site?

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Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS’HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh’s town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour’s drive away.

But unlike his Jewish neighbors, he can’t vote in next week’s elections.

Saleh is among the 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank who have no voice in choosing Israel’s next government and no control over whether it decides to annex part or all of the occupied territory, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to do . With the peace process having sputtered to a halt a decade ago, they also have little hope of getting a state of their own anytime soon.
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Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS'HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh's town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour's drive away.

apnews.com

He's not a citizen of Israel, so why should he be allowed to vote in their elections?

He is on land controlled by the government of Israel.
Israel either has to retreat back to the 1948 partition, or allow all the Arabs in the occupied lands to vote in Israeli elections.

Not true. Palestinians are a gang of criminals. They are not entitled to anything you claim.

Nonsense.
Palestinians did their part to help the Allies in WWI, and it is the Allies that criminally failed to liberate Palestine as required by treaty.
The Zionists of Israel are all illegal immigrants with illegal US weapons they used to murder Palestinians and steal land.

Does Israel have the right to exist?

Don't go there with Rigby!

Hamas is Sunni and Iran is Shiite.
Saudi Arabia is a more likely source of Hamas funding, since they are both Sunni.

Thats an over simplification

Iran is Israels sworn enemy

They would gladly fund hamas

Wrong.
In fact, Iran has never cared about Israel to ever get involved in a single conflict over Palestine.
Iran just says Israel will collapse on its own since it is minority rule.

You're right; Iran was simply busy attacking Iraq.

The war between Iran and Iraq ended in 1988.

The war ended but ISIS didn't get the message until Trump MOABed them.

Wrong.
ISIS is not Iranian but Iraqi Sunni that were put out of work by the US supporting the Shiites instead.
ISIS did not get created until the US was starting to leave Iraq and let out all its Sunni prisoners.

Muslims are cool; it doesn't take much to make them riot and murder.

They are too strict for my tastes, but they are exceedingly honest.

You are the world's biggest sucker. The Quran commands Moslems to lie to the Infidel.

Wrong.
The Quran actually normally forbids lying, but makes an exception only if the truth would cause someone else to be harmed.
You can only lie to protect the lives of others, like when the Gestapo ask where the Jews are hiding.
And by the way, the word "infidel" means a person lacking in fidelity, which means traitor, like an apostate.
It does not mean unbeliever.
But Jews and Christians are not considered unbelievers either, as all Abrahamic religions were considered valid by Mohammad.

The Koran allows a Muslim to lie to a non-Muslim which is why Napolean had to shoot an entire troop of Muslims who attacked his troops after swearing not to attack.

Napoleon was the attacker.

Yes, and the Arabs broke their oath.
What's you point?
When are you going to list every population that was displaced after WWII?

The point is that since Napoleon was an illegal attacker, then it was allowed to break an oath and lie.
Same as lying to the Gestapo. That is also allowed.

But Palestine and Jews had no part in WWII.
The war had nothing to do with the fact the Zionist illegally smuggled in weapons and blew up the British high command, leaving the Palestinians defenseless.

Since you claim Palestine was a nation then, how could they be defenseless ?

 

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AP/AJ are huge Hamas/Iran supporters.
A child knows this fact.
These fuckers have been having lunch in the building every fucking day with Hamas leaders.
Israel showed Biden 100% proof that Hamas had been operating out of the building with the full knowledge of AP/AJ.

And why shouldn't the press be supporters of Hamas, the democratically elected representatives of Palestine?
The government of Palestine, operates out of almost all the commercial buildings in Gaza.
They run all the schools, utilities, libraries, etc.

Why did Abbas cancel the 'election' asshole?
B/c he KNEW he wouldn't get reelected.
That's why Iran told him to start firing off thousands of Iran supplied rockets into Israel. To distract from the FACT that the average Palestinian has fucking had it with living in a violent shithole sand dune. The Palestinian youth have the fucking internet and they fucking KNOW they are being controlled by a bunch of toothless stinking psychopaths who would rather buy bullets than buy food for their granddaughters AKA their future sex slaves.

Wrong.
The election was cancelled because Israel would not allow voting stations in any of the contested areas, which is the entire West Bank.
All the problems in Palestine are caused deliberately by Israel.

Link from a non-Arab site?

{...
Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS’HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh’s town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour’s drive away.

But unlike his Jewish neighbors, he can’t vote in next week’s elections.

Saleh is among the 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank who have no voice in choosing Israel’s next government and no control over whether it decides to annex part or all of the occupied territory, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to do . With the peace process having sputtered to a halt a decade ago, they also have little hope of getting a state of their own anytime soon.
...}

Unable to vote, Palestinians shrug off Israel's elections

MAS'HA, West Bank (AP) — Barhoum Saleh's town is surrounded by Jewish settlements, the sign above his roadside mechanic shop is in Hebrew, most of his customers are Israeli and he needs an Israeli permit to visit the beach a half hour's drive away.

apnews.com

He's not a citizen of Israel, so why should he be allowed to vote in their elections?

He is on land controlled by the government of Israel.
Israel either has to retreat back to the 1948 partition, or allow all the Arabs in the occupied lands to vote in Israeli elections.

Not true. Palestinians are a gang of criminals. They are not entitled to anything you claim.

Nonsense.
Palestinians did their part to help the Allies in WWI, and it is the Allies that criminally failed to liberate Palestine as required by treaty.
The Zionists of Israel are all illegal immigrants with illegal US weapons they used to murder Palestinians and steal land.

Does Israel have the right to exist?

Don't go there with Rigby!

Hamas is Sunni and Iran is Shiite.
Saudi Arabia is a more likely source of Hamas funding, since they are both Sunni.

Thats an over simplification

Iran is Israels sworn enemy

They would gladly fund hamas

Wrong.
In fact, Iran has never cared about Israel to ever get involved in a single conflict over Palestine.
Iran just says Israel will collapse on its own since it is minority rule.

You're right; Iran was simply busy attacking Iraq.

The war between Iran and Iraq ended in 1988.

The war ended but ISIS didn't get the message until Trump MOABed them.

Wrong.
ISIS is not Iranian but Iraqi Sunni that were put out of work by the US supporting the Shiites instead.
ISIS did not get created until the US was starting to leave Iraq and let out all its Sunni prisoners.

Muslims are cool; it doesn't take much to make them riot and murder.

They are too strict for my tastes, but they are exceedingly honest.

You are the world's biggest sucker. The Quran commands Moslems to lie to the Infidel.

Wrong.
The Quran actually normally forbids lying, but makes an exception only if the truth would cause someone else to be harmed.
You can only lie to protect the lives of others, like when the Gestapo ask where the Jews are hiding.
And by the way, the word "infidel" means a person lacking in fidelity, which means traitor, like an apostate.
It does not mean unbeliever.
But Jews and Christians are not considered unbelievers either, as all Abrahamic religions were considered valid by Mohammad.

The Koran allows a Muslim to lie to a non-Muslim which is why Napolean had to shoot an entire troop of Muslims who attacked his troops after swearing not to attack.

Napoleon was the attacker.

Yes, and the Arabs broke their oath.
What's you point?
When are you going to list every population that was displaced after WWII?

The point is that since Napoleon was an illegal attacker, then it was allowed to break an oath and lie.
Same as lying to the Gestapo. That is also allowed.

But Palestine and Jews had no part in WWII.
The war had nothing to do with the fact the Zionist illegally smuggled in weapons and blew up the British high command, leaving the Palestinians defenseless.

I love when you summarize shit.
I'll see you in court.