I might vote for Hillary Clinton now!

[Boss]

Two words for ya... TED CRUZ!

Sigh. Boss...you know I love ya, but Cruz did not win the nomination.

Yes, I am aware he didn't win the nomination. I was asked to name a politician who would go against his own party for the sake of the country... Ted Cruz did just that.

Trump, on the other hand, endorsed 3 establishment candidates this week.

 

[owebo]

Two words for ya... TED CRUZ!

Sigh. Boss...you know I love ya, but Cruz did not win the nomination.

Yes, I am aware he didn't win the nomination. I was asked to name a politician who would go against his own party for the sake of the country... Ted Cruz did just that.

Trump, on the other hand, endorsed 3 establishment candidates this week.

Ahhh Cruz, the consummate owned GOP'er....and Boss, his die hard hitlery supporter sidekick......

 

[EatMorChikin]

You aren't a conservative, or there is no way you could risk her nominating a supreme court judge. Thanks for the fake story tho.

Well, I am a conservative and I hope that she doesn't get to pick SCOTUS justices but I don't know that Trump's justices would be any better. It doesn't really matter what I think at this point, Trump continues to tank on his own. I know you guys have to put on the game face here and pretend that everything is fine but you know it as well as I do.

You hope she doesn't get to? She will nominate the most radical anti 2nd amendment judge she can find. Wave bye to the 2nd. That is how important this election is, and why Oblowhard was not allowed to nominate one.

 

[thanatos144]

You aren't a conservative, or there is no way you could risk her nominating a supreme court judge. Thanks for the fake story tho.

Well, I am a conservative and I hope that she doesn't get to pick SCOTUS justices but I don't know that Trump's justices would be any better. It doesn't really matter what I think at this point, Trump continues to tank on his own. I know you guys have to put on the game face here and pretend that everything is fine but you know it as well as I do.

You hope she doesn't get to? She will nominate the most radical anti 2nd amendment judge she can find. Wave bye to the 2nd. That is how important this election is, and why Oblowhard was not allowed to nominate one.

What proof do you have Trump won't do the same?

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[cereal_killer]

I'm dead set against a Clinton Presidency..period. I do not want her in office...period. I'm not going to act all butt hurt because people said mean things about Drumpf supporters when faced with a possible Clinton presidency. It's unthinkable to me.

Where does all this CDS come from?

When I see all this baseless Hillary hatred I often think back to this:

“Were you molested by a real estate lady?” Bill Maher and Andrew Sullivan’s shocking Hillary Clinton clash

I don't hate anyone. You're projecting. Hillary seems like a nice enough woman.

There's a huge difference between hating someone and feeling they are totally unfit to run the country. Clinton cannot get done what needs to be done to turn this country around. No career politician, left or right, can for that matter. They have ALL failed us and will continue to fail us. It's time to turn this bitch upside down and make out government what its supposed to be...for, by and of <<remember that little obscure blurb in the constitution?

Trump isn't the guy to do it. He doesn't have the knowledge or the discipline. And I firmly believe he's a sociopath with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

I'm fine with an outsider to shake up the system. But it has to be someone who instills confidence from both sides.

You may not hate Hillary, but hatred of her often goes hand in hand with opposing her.

Trump is the PERFECT guy to do it. Why? Because he cares nothing about pandering to Republican's/Democrats. He'll do whats right for this country and all American's. If that means "throwing his party under the bus" to get something done he will do it. That's the kind of President we need. Some one beholden to no one but the American people. You will not find another politician willing to go against his/her own party for the benefit of the country. They are worried about being re-elected and keeping their donors/lobbyists/special interests happy. Trump needs nothing. He can go back to his life in the private sector and be perfectly fine. His life will be even better actually (financially that is). He gains NOTHING by playing by the "rules" of Washington because he already has everything.

The man can't be bought and that scares the shit out the Washington elites and the rich and powerful. They are fucked under a Trump presidency. They stand to lose billions and a shit ton of influence. The neocons will not be able to drag us into pointless wars anymore and we have a good chance of having a better relationship with Russia. No more beating the cold war drums. The gig is up under Trump.

I don't hate anyone synth. Hate is a strong word. I don't know Mrs. Clinton, but she seems like a very nice woman. I like her in that aspect, but she is not fit to run the country at this time.

Yes, this is the Trump fan's line: he can't be bought, he doesn't need anything, yada yada yada.

Let's take a couple of your points:

If he's so rich (he's not), why did he need to give campaign contributions to get special favors? And since he's now saying that Hillary is all about pay to play, and that's illegal, hasn't Trump committed crimes by giving contributions (pay) to get special favors (play)?

Please point to ANYTHING in Trump's career, dating back to the early 1980s, that indicates that he cares about the country, rather than just caring about enriching himself. Because he says so in a political speech? Please.

You say he can go back to private life and actually be better off financially. After everything that has come out (with much more to come, believe me) who in their right mind would ever go into business with him again? This is a guy whose standard business tactic was to order things (tablecloths for his casinos, etc.) with the Trump logo, then refuse delivery unless the small business owner lowered the price. That's unethical, and put more than one small business owner out of business, and created real hardships for others. So why do you now believe he's going to be a champion for small business? Because he says so in a political speech? Please.

He's already suffering financially because of his campaign: bookings at his hotels have plummeted. Because the types of people who can afford $500+ per night on a hotel room are successful, educated people who see through his bullshit, and know better than to believe his promises.

1988..... here's your proof that he cares for the country. Listen to the whole thing.

 

[cereal_killer]

I don't hate anyone. You're projecting. Hillary seems like a nice enough woman.

There's a huge difference between hating someone and feeling they are totally unfit to run the country. Clinton cannot get done what needs to be done to turn this country around. No career politician, left or right, can for that matter. They have ALL failed us and will continue to fail us. It's time to turn this bitch upside down and make out government what its supposed to be...for, by and of <<remember that little obscure blurb in the constitution?

Trump isn't the guy to do it. He doesn't have the knowledge or the discipline. And I firmly believe he's a sociopath with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

I'm fine with an outsider to shake up the system. But it has to be someone who instills confidence from both sides.

You may not hate Hillary, but hatred of her often goes hand in hand with opposing her.

Trump is the PERFECT guy to do it. Why? Because he cares nothing about pandering to Republican's/Democrats. He'll do whats right for this country and all American's. If that means "throwing his party under the bus" to get something done he will do it. That's the kind of President we need. Some one beholden to no one but the American people. You will not find another politician willing to go against his/her own party for the benefit of the country. They are worried about being re-elected and keeping their donors/lobbyists/special interests happy. Trump needs nothing. He can go back to his life in the private sector and be perfectly fine. His life will be even better actually (financially that is). He gains NOTHING by playing by the "rules" of Washington because he already has everything.

The man can't be bought and that scares the shit out the Washington elites and the rich and powerful. They are fucked under a Trump presidency. They stand to lose billions and a shit ton of influence. The neocons will not be able to drag us into pointless wars anymore and we have a good chance of having a better relationship with Russia. No more beating the cold war drums. The gig is up under Trump.

I don't hate anyone synth. Hate is a strong word. I don't know Mrs. Clinton, but she seems like a very nice woman. I like her in that aspect, but she is not fit to run the country at this time.

So he backed McCain and Ryan last week because he doesn't care about pandering to the party?

That has nothing to do with policy. I'm talking implementing his policies and working with congress.

He has no policies, other than 'Make America Great Again'. He has no specifics.

Why would Congress agree to work with him? Why would Mitch McConnell (if he stays Majority Leader - doubtful), who is a huge proponent of trade agreements (as is Ryan), not just obstruct like he has done with Obama?

No president since Reagan in 1984 has had as clear a mandate as Obama did in 2008, but that didn't mean shit to Republicans in Congress - but you think Trump will have a magic potion to get them to roll over?

Now you're just tossing out leftist talking points. He has plenty of policies and has spoken about them at length at rallies, speeches and his website. If congress won't work with him he'll throw whoever's guilty of not working on solutions under the bus and that will include MEMBERS OF HIS OWN PARTY. Trump is a negotiator and he may go to Congress looking for A, B, C, and D knowing he won't get all of it. He's smart enough to say "OK we got A and B and the Dems came up with solution Z which aren't exactly C and D but it will get us to where we need to go"

The days of gridlock and finger pointing will be over (hopefully) Rightly or wrongly I cannot see Trump settling for gridlock. He'll get Congress to work together because he is not a ideologue. If the Dems have a better solution he'll go with it. I personally see him making decisions on whats best for the country and Americans and if either or both parties have a viable solution he'll go with it. Maybe I'm wrong, but everything that's come out of his mouth tells me I'm not.

 

[cereal_killer]

Trump is the PERFECT guy to do it. Why? Because he cares nothing about pandering to Republican's/Democrats. He'll do whats right for this country and all American's. If that means "throwing his party under the bus" to get something done he will do it. That's the kind of President we need. Some one beholden to no one but the American people. You will not find another politician willing to go against his/her own party for the benefit of the country. They are worried about being re-elected and keeping their donors/lobbyists/special interests happy. Trump needs nothing. He can go back to his life in the private sector and be perfectly fine. His life will be even better actually (financially that is). He gains NOTHING by playing by the "rules" of Washington because he already has everything.

The man can't be bought and that scares the shit out the Washington elites and the rich and powerful. They are fucked under a Trump presidency. They stand to lose billions and a shit ton of influence. The neocons will not be able to drag us into pointless wars anymore and we have a good chance of having a better relationship with Russia. No more beating the cold war drums. The gig is up under Trump.

I don't hate anyone synth. Hate is a strong word. I don't know Mrs. Clinton, but she seems like a very nice woman. I like her in that aspect, but she is not fit to run the country at this time.

Great post, and I couldn't agree more. (well except the liking Hillary part ). If I come even close to saying the above, I am attacked. Everyone believes in our right to believe and vote as we see fit..........as long as we vote for who they want us to vote for.

Kat, I have no problem with you voting for Trump. But if you do, don't ever call yourself a conservative again. Because the two are not compatible on any level.

Synth that's very unfair and total BS. Your just spiting out talking points from the #nevertrumpers and GOPe. Trump is more conservative than any of those dopes and if he's not considered a real conservative then we'll all gladly jump on board whatever label you'd like to ascribe to him.

Conservatives haven't done anything conservative except expand government, get us into senseless wars, drive up debt and fund open borders. If Trump isn't a conservative I'm pretty sure that's a good thing

 

[Synthaholic]

He now proposes MORE infrastructure (roads and bridges) bullshit than Hillary.

Why is that bullshit?

It creates thousands, if not millions, of jobs. Jobs create income taxes. Income taxes help reduce the debt. Jobs reduce welfare dependency. Jobs create family wealth, which propels spending on consumer goods, which create more jobs in the service industry, and demand for manufacturing, which...wait for it.........creates more jobs.

Are you sure you're a conservative?

It creates ZERO jobs as Obama sheepishly admitted after we forked over $800 billion in 2009 to do exactly this same thing. Are you sure you're not a Socialist?

That's demonstrably false. Even anecdotally I can attest to it helping business. Part of the stimulus was rebates on Green appliances. I bought a heat-pump GE water heater for $1435 and received $1200 back in stimulus rebates, through my city. The catch? It had to be installed professionally. Which meant I had to hire a local plumbing business to install it, for $400.

• I bought an energy efficient water heater, saving me at least $600 per year.
• GE sold a high-end appliance, helping them.
• The local plumber received $400 that he wouldn't have otherwise, because I would have installed it myself.

And to correct you: it wasn't $800 billion, it was closer to $725 billion, and 1/3 of that was tax breaks, which was the compromise with Republicans to keep them from filibustering it.

Learn your facts before you challenge me on any issue, Boss.

 

[Synthaholic]

Two words for ya... TED CRUZ!

Sigh. Boss...you know I love ya, but Cruz did not win the nomination.

Yes, I am aware he didn't win the nomination. I was asked to name a politician who would go against his own party for the sake of the country... Ted Cruz did just that.

Trump, on the other hand, endorsed 3 establishment candidates this week.

Funny how teabaggers like Ryan are now 'establishment'.

 

[Synthaholic]

Where does all this CDS come from?

When I see all this baseless Hillary hatred I often think back to this:

“Were you molested by a real estate lady?” Bill Maher and Andrew Sullivan’s shocking Hillary Clinton clash

I don't hate anyone. You're projecting. Hillary seems like a nice enough woman.

There's a huge difference between hating someone and feeling they are totally unfit to run the country. Clinton cannot get done what needs to be done to turn this country around. No career politician, left or right, can for that matter. They have ALL failed us and will continue to fail us. It's time to turn this bitch upside down and make out government what its supposed to be...for, by and of <<remember that little obscure blurb in the constitution?

Trump isn't the guy to do it. He doesn't have the knowledge or the discipline. And I firmly believe he's a sociopath with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

I'm fine with an outsider to shake up the system. But it has to be someone who instills confidence from both sides.

You may not hate Hillary, but hatred of her often goes hand in hand with opposing her.

Trump is the PERFECT guy to do it. Why? Because he cares nothing about pandering to Republican's/Democrats. He'll do whats right for this country and all American's. If that means "throwing his party under the bus" to get something done he will do it. That's the kind of President we need. Some one beholden to no one but the American people. You will not find another politician willing to go against his/her own party for the benefit of the country. They are worried about being re-elected and keeping their donors/lobbyists/special interests happy. Trump needs nothing. He can go back to his life in the private sector and be perfectly fine. His life will be even better actually (financially that is). He gains NOTHING by playing by the "rules" of Washington because he already has everything.

The man can't be bought and that scares the shit out the Washington elites and the rich and powerful. They are fucked under a Trump presidency. They stand to lose billions and a shit ton of influence. The neocons will not be able to drag us into pointless wars anymore and we have a good chance of having a better relationship with Russia. No more beating the cold war drums. The gig is up under Trump.

I don't hate anyone synth. Hate is a strong word. I don't know Mrs. Clinton, but she seems like a very nice woman. I like her in that aspect, but she is not fit to run the country at this time.

Yes, this is the Trump fan's line: he can't be bought, he doesn't need anything, yada yada yada.

Let's take a couple of your points:

If he's so rich (he's not), why did he need to give campaign contributions to get special favors? And since he's now saying that Hillary is all about pay to play, and that's illegal, hasn't Trump committed crimes by giving contributions (pay) to get special favors (play)?

Please point to ANYTHING in Trump's career, dating back to the early 1980s, that indicates that he cares about the country, rather than just caring about enriching himself. Because he says so in a political speech? Please.

You say he can go back to private life and actually be better off financially. After everything that has come out (with much more to come, believe me) who in their right mind would ever go into business with him again? This is a guy whose standard business tactic was to order things (tablecloths for his casinos, etc.) with the Trump logo, then refuse delivery unless the small business owner lowered the price. That's unethical, and put more than one small business owner out of business, and created real hardships for others. So why do you now believe he's going to be a champion for small business? Because he says so in a political speech? Please.

He's already suffering financially because of his campaign: bookings at his hotels have plummeted. Because the types of people who can afford $500+ per night on a hotel room are successful, educated people who see through his bullshit, and know better than to believe his promises.

1988..... here's your proof that he cares for the country. Listen to the whole thing.

I can't watch it right now, but if it doesn't include something he's DONE, rather than just him yapping about what he wants to do, it's a waste of time.

I want to know what he's done. Actions, not words. Because we see how much his words mean.

 

[Synthaholic]

If congress won't work with him he'll throw whoever's guilty of not working on solutions under the bus and that will include MEMBERS OF HIS OWN PARTY.

What does this mean?

He can't fire them, you know . . .

What is he going to do, campaign against them in 2018? Lotsa luck with that one.

 

[cereal_killer]

I don't hate anyone. You're projecting. Hillary seems like a nice enough woman.

There's a huge difference between hating someone and feeling they are totally unfit to run the country. Clinton cannot get done what needs to be done to turn this country around. No career politician, left or right, can for that matter. They have ALL failed us and will continue to fail us. It's time to turn this bitch upside down and make out government what its supposed to be...for, by and of <<remember that little obscure blurb in the constitution?

Trump isn't the guy to do it. He doesn't have the knowledge or the discipline. And I firmly believe he's a sociopath with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

I'm fine with an outsider to shake up the system. But it has to be someone who instills confidence from both sides.

You may not hate Hillary, but hatred of her often goes hand in hand with opposing her.

Trump is the PERFECT guy to do it. Why? Because he cares nothing about pandering to Republican's/Democrats. He'll do whats right for this country and all American's. If that means "throwing his party under the bus" to get something done he will do it. That's the kind of President we need. Some one beholden to no one but the American people. You will not find another politician willing to go against his/her own party for the benefit of the country. They are worried about being re-elected and keeping their donors/lobbyists/special interests happy. Trump needs nothing. He can go back to his life in the private sector and be perfectly fine. His life will be even better actually (financially that is). He gains NOTHING by playing by the "rules" of Washington because he already has everything.

The man can't be bought and that scares the shit out the Washington elites and the rich and powerful. They are fucked under a Trump presidency. They stand to lose billions and a shit ton of influence. The neocons will not be able to drag us into pointless wars anymore and we have a good chance of having a better relationship with Russia. No more beating the cold war drums. The gig is up under Trump.

I don't hate anyone synth. Hate is a strong word. I don't know Mrs. Clinton, but she seems like a very nice woman. I like her in that aspect, but she is not fit to run the country at this time.

Yes, this is the Trump fan's line: he can't be bought, he doesn't need anything, yada yada yada.

Let's take a couple of your points:

If he's so rich (he's not), why did he need to give campaign contributions to get special favors? And since he's now saying that Hillary is all about pay to play, and that's illegal, hasn't Trump committed crimes by giving contributions (pay) to get special favors (play)?

Please point to ANYTHING in Trump's career, dating back to the early 1980s, that indicates that he cares about the country, rather than just caring about enriching himself. Because he says so in a political speech? Please.

You say he can go back to private life and actually be better off financially. After everything that has come out (with much more to come, believe me) who in their right mind would ever go into business with him again? This is a guy whose standard business tactic was to order things (tablecloths for his casinos, etc.) with the Trump logo, then refuse delivery unless the small business owner lowered the price. That's unethical, and put more than one small business owner out of business, and created real hardships for others. So why do you now believe he's going to be a champion for small business? Because he says so in a political speech? Please.

He's already suffering financially because of his campaign: bookings at his hotels have plummeted. Because the types of people who can afford $500+ per night on a hotel room are successful, educated people who see through his bullshit, and know better than to believe his promises.

1988..... here's your proof that he cares for the country. Listen to the whole thing.

I can't watch it right now, but if it doesn't include something he's DONE, rather than just him yapping about what he wants to do, it's a waste of time.

I want to know what he's done. Actions, not words. Because we see how much his words mean.

Dude he was in the private sector and you said point to "ANYTHING in Trump's career, dating back to the early 1980s, that indicates that he cares about the country, rather than just caring about enriching himself"

I do it and you change the stipulations and won't watch it. wtf man?

 

[cereal_killer]

If congress won't work with him he'll throw whoever's guilty of not working on solutions under the bus and that will include MEMBERS OF HIS OWN PARTY.

What does this mean?

He can't fire them, you know . . .

What is he going to do, campaign against them in 2018? Lotsa luck with that one.

Just like to sounds. If there is a good solution put forth by the Dems and the Republican's just want to block it because their proposals were shot down, he'd call them on it. Or he'll take a little of this and a little of that from both parties in order to put forth the best possible solution. The point being he will work on the best solution(s) for America/American's versus what's best for his party/re-election/special interests/donors/lobbyists

 

[Boss]

You aren't a conservative, or there is no way you could risk her nominating a supreme court judge. Thanks for the fake story tho.

Well, I am a conservative and I hope that she doesn't get to pick SCOTUS justices but I don't know that Trump's justices would be any better. It doesn't really matter what I think at this point, Trump continues to tank on his own. I know you guys have to put on the game face here and pretend that everything is fine but you know it as well as I do.

You hope she doesn't get to? She will nominate the most radical anti 2nd amendment judge she can find. Wave bye to the 2nd. That is how important this election is, and why Oblowhard was not allowed to nominate one.

You're absolutely right but that doesn't change reality. Trump is tanking in the polls... like every poll. Safe red states are now up in the air. Hillary has all the prime cherry states.. CA, NY, PA... Probably has Ohio and Michigan, probably has New Jersey and most of the Northeast. Trump now clings to a small swath of states from Florida across the Southeast and Southwest. The electoral count is getting close to insurmountable in Hillary's favor.

So no matter how much you and I like it or don't like it... no matter how awful it will be... it's looking more like a reality every day.

 

[Boss]

Two words for ya... TED CRUZ!

Sigh. Boss...you know I love ya, but Cruz did not win the nomination.

Yes, I am aware he didn't win the nomination. I was asked to name a politician who would go against his own party for the sake of the country... Ted Cruz did just that.

Trump, on the other hand, endorsed 3 establishment candidates this week.

Funny how teabaggers like Ryan are now 'establishment'.

Ugggg! He was Mittens Romney's freaking running mate!

 

[Boss]

Conservatives haven't done anything conservative except expand government, get us into senseless wars, drive up debt and fund open borders. If Trump isn't a conservative I'm pretty sure that's a good thing

No.. Conservatives didn't do any of that.... Neocons did. There IS a difference. George Bush... both of them... were Neocons. Dubya was also a social conservative. These are ideologues who claim refuge under the conservative banner but they are not philosophical constitutional conservatives.

 

[Kat]

Conservatives haven't done anything conservative except expand government, get us into senseless wars, drive up debt and fund open borders. If Trump isn't a conservative I'm pretty sure that's a good thing

No.. Conservatives didn't do any of that.... Neocons did. There IS a difference. George Bush... both of them... were Neocons. Dubya was also a social conservative. These are ideologues who claim refuge under the conservative banner but they are not philosophical constitutional conservatives.

I am not even sure Bush was a social conservative. I know for sure Laura was.is not.

 

[Kat]

Trump is the PERFECT guy to do it. Why? Because he cares nothing about pandering to Republican's/Democrats. He'll do whats right for this country and all American's. If that means "throwing his party under the bus" to get something done he will do it. That's the kind of President we need. Some one beholden to no one but the American people. You will not find another politician willing to go against his/her own party for the benefit of the country. They are worried about being re-elected and keeping their donors/lobbyists/special interests happy. Trump needs nothing. He can go back to his life in the private sector and be perfectly fine. His life will be even better actually (financially that is). He gains NOTHING by playing by the "rules" of Washington because he already has everything.

The man can't be bought and that scares the shit out the Washington elites and the rich and powerful. They are fucked under a Trump presidency. They stand to lose billions and a shit ton of influence. The neocons will not be able to drag us into pointless wars anymore and we have a good chance of having a better relationship with Russia. No more beating the cold war drums. The gig is up under Trump.

I don't hate anyone synth. Hate is a strong word. I don't know Mrs. Clinton, but she seems like a very nice woman. I like her in that aspect, but she is not fit to run the country at this time.

Great post, and I couldn't agree more. (well except the liking Hillary part ). If I come even close to saying the above, I am attacked. Everyone believes in our right to believe and vote as we see fit..........as long as we vote for who they want us to vote for.

Kat, I have no problem with you voting for Trump. But if you do, don't ever call yourself a conservative again. Because the two are not compatible on any level.

HT that would be your opinion. Not mine. I am getting a little tired of people and their labels. I know what I am, and know what I am not. What I believe, and what I do not.

 

[thanatos144]

Trump is the PERFECT guy to do it. Why? Because he cares nothing about pandering to Republican's/Democrats. He'll do whats right for this country and all American's. If that means "throwing his party under the bus" to get something done he will do it. That's the kind of President we need. Some one beholden to no one but the American people. You will not find another politician willing to go against his/her own party for the benefit of the country. They are worried about being re-elected and keeping their donors/lobbyists/special interests happy. Trump needs nothing. He can go back to his life in the private sector and be perfectly fine. His life will be even better actually (financially that is). He gains NOTHING by playing by the "rules" of Washington because he already has everything.

The man can't be bought and that scares the shit out the Washington elites and the rich and powerful. They are fucked under a Trump presidency. They stand to lose billions and a shit ton of influence. The neocons will not be able to drag us into pointless wars anymore and we have a good chance of having a better relationship with Russia. No more beating the cold war drums. The gig is up under Trump.

I don't hate anyone synth. Hate is a strong word. I don't know Mrs. Clinton, but she seems like a very nice woman. I like her in that aspect, but she is not fit to run the country at this time.

Great post, and I couldn't agree more. (well except the liking Hillary part ). If I come even close to saying the above, I am attacked. Everyone believes in our right to believe and vote as we see fit..........as long as we vote for who they want us to vote for.

Kat, I have no problem with you voting for Trump. But if you do, don't ever call yourself a conservative again. Because the two are not compatible on any level.

HT that would be your opinion. Not mine. I am getting a little tired of people and their labels. I know what I am, and know what I am not. What I believe, and what I do not.

Trump is not a conservative. So I do hope you are not alluding to him being one . Voting against hillary is one thing but voting for Trump whole heartedly and ignoring how progressive he is is another.

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[Kat]

Trump is the PERFECT guy to do it. Why? Because he cares nothing about pandering to Republican's/Democrats. He'll do whats right for this country and all American's. If that means "throwing his party under the bus" to get something done he will do it. That's the kind of President we need. Some one beholden to no one but the American people. You will not find another politician willing to go against his/her own party for the benefit of the country. They are worried about being re-elected and keeping their donors/lobbyists/special interests happy. Trump needs nothing. He can go back to his life in the private sector and be perfectly fine. His life will be even better actually (financially that is). He gains NOTHING by playing by the "rules" of Washington because he already has everything.

The man can't be bought and that scares the shit out the Washington elites and the rich and powerful. They are fucked under a Trump presidency. They stand to lose billions and a shit ton of influence. The neocons will not be able to drag us into pointless wars anymore and we have a good chance of having a better relationship with Russia. No more beating the cold war drums. The gig is up under Trump.

I don't hate anyone synth. Hate is a strong word. I don't know Mrs. Clinton, but she seems like a very nice woman. I like her in that aspect, but she is not fit to run the country at this time.

Great post, and I couldn't agree more. (well except the liking Hillary part ). If I come even close to saying the above, I am attacked. Everyone believes in our right to believe and vote as we see fit..........as long as we vote for who they want us to vote for.

Kat, I have no problem with you voting for Trump. But if you do, don't ever call yourself a conservative again. Because the two are not compatible on any level.

HT that would be your opinion. Not mine. I am getting a little tired of people and their labels. I know what I am, and know what I am not. What I believe, and what I do not.

Trump is not a conservative. So I do hope you are not alluding to him being one . Voting against hillary is one thing but voting for Trump whole heartedly and ignoring how progressive he is is another.

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I'd like to know where I said any of that. I really am getting tired of being labeled, and told who I should or should not vote for. I do not do that to anyone else. I think we all have the right to vote how we see fit, even if we disagree with one another.