I honestly feel that more republicans would abandon their party if they just accepted two facts:

[sealybobo]

I got 2/agrees dick. Lol

 

[bripat9643]

Too bad, your opinions aren't really facts. Regulatory and tax uncertainty is causing business to sit on their hands. As for #2 you're just full of it.

Regulations do very little to hinder job growth. The BLS stats prove that.

Anyone who believes a government regulatory agency when it says regulations don't cost anything is a certified fool

 

[CrusaderFrank]

1) if you want to stimulate economic growth, you help the middle class and poor, not the wealthy. Think about this. The wealthy are doing better now MORE THAN EVER BERORE, so why has growth not been faster? It's because the middle class is shrinking because of rising income inequality. The rise in income inequality will only destabilize our economy even further because consumer spending is decreasing. Consumer spending is vital to the economy - it accounts for 70% of it.

Meanwhile, all this stimulus (tax cuts) to the wealthy does jack shit for the economy overall. Why? Two reasons: A) the wealthy are investing less and less these days because it is just easier for them to keep the money they save rather than make huge investments to grow their business. B) the wealthy, individually when it comes to consumer spending, spend just as much money as someone in the middle class does when it comes to daily/monthly purchases. Sure they make extravagant purchases, but those ultimately do little for the economy at large.

2) Most Americans side with liberal issues that republicans oppose like raising the minimum wage, certain gun control laws, extending unemployment benefits, and gay marriage. Oh and recent polls show that most Americans believe in dramatic climate change and want the gov to do something about it.

Gotta disagree about the investing part. They are investing their money. Its just not where it helps the economy.

No? Businesses having money doesn't help an economy?

Where do you get these "ideas"?

 

[Wildman]

reasonable restrictions.

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you fucking people keep using that word "REASONABLE", yet you can not define the word.., your "reasonable" most certainly will not be what i consider "reasonable", i'll be right up front with you and every fucking liberfool here, in plain English, without trying to pick it apart this is my "REASONABLE"

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

now, show me your version of "reasonable" !!

 

[sealybobo]

reasonable restrictions.

>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<
you fucking people keep using that word "REASONABLE", yet you can not define the word.., your "reasonable" most certainly will not be what i consider "reasonable", i'll be right up front with you and every fucking liberfool here, in plain English, without trying to pick it apart this is my "REASONABLE"

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

now, show me your version of "reasonable" !!

Are you in a well regulated militia? Like Tim McVeigh? That's not reasonable.

Should you have mortars and rpg's?

 

[sealybobo]

reasonable restrictions.

>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<
you fucking people keep using that word "REASONABLE", yet you can not define the word.., your "reasonable" most certainly will not be what i consider "reasonable", i'll be right up front with you and every fucking liberfool here, in plain English, without trying to pick it apart this is my "REASONABLE"

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

now, show me your version of "reasonable" !!

Should you be allowed armor piercing ammo? You would need them if the government ever got corrupt. What about a tank or armed drone?

 

[bripat9643]

Your 1# is why I feel that the republicans are bad for this country...While your 2# is a mix bag for me.

-I like the minimum wage
-Building renewables to fight climate change

But I don't really like gays

Wheres legalizing pot?

Number one is a liberal delusion that ignores economics. It was conceived to justify big government. It's Voo Doo.

 

[bripat9643]

reasonable restrictions.

>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<
you fucking people keep using that word "REASONABLE", yet you can not define the word.., your "reasonable" most certainly will not be what i consider "reasonable", i'll be right up front with you and every fucking liberfool here, in plain English, without trying to pick it apart this is my "REASONABLE"

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

now, show me your version of "reasonable" !!

Should you be allowed armor piercing ammo? You would need them if the government ever got corrupt. What about a tank or armed drone?

Yes to all of the above.

 

[bripat9643]

1) if you want to stimulate economic growth, you help the middle class and poor, not the wealthy. Think about this. The wealthy are doing better now MORE THAN EVER BERORE, so why has growth not been faster? It's because the middle class is shrinking because of rising income inequality. The rise in income inequality will only destabilize our economy even further because consumer spending is decreasing. Consumer spending is vital to the economy - it accounts for 70% of it.

Meanwhile, all this stimulus (tax cuts) to the wealthy does jack shit for the economy overall. Why? Two reasons: A) the wealthy are investing less and less these days because it is just easier for them to keep the money they save rather than make huge investments to grow their business. B) the wealthy, individually when it comes to consumer spending, spend just as much money as someone in the middle class does when it comes to daily/monthly purchases. Sure they make extravagant purchases, but those ultimately do little for the economy at large.

2) Most Americans side with liberal issues that republicans oppose like raising the minimum wage, certain gun control laws, extending unemployment benefits, and gay marriage. Oh and recent polls show that most Americans believe in dramatic climate change and want the gov to do something about it.

You do realize you are wrong on both counts?

If you want to help the middle class, you remove the downward pressure on business (regulations and big government) so that middle class job creation can happen.

In addition, the majority of the country is right of center.

Have a nice night.

Regulations do very little to inhibit job growth. The BLS data proves that.

Horeseshit. Regulations have prevented a single new oil refinery from being built in this country in the last 50 years. Now Obama is creating regulations that will shut down all the coal fired power plants. Those are just two examples. Do you claim that isn't inhibiting job growth?

I am saying overall national job growth is affected only slightly.

That's still horseshit. Economic growth has decreased steadily as the regulatory regime has expanded.

 

[Iceweasel]

Are you in a well regulated militia? Like Tim McVeigh? That's not reasonable.

Should you have mortars and rpg's?

We should have them on the state level in case the feds go full retard on us. But where did you get the idea the militia McVaeigh was in was regulated by anyone?

 

[sealybobo]

reasonable restrictions.

>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<
you fucking people keep using that word "REASONABLE", yet you can not define the word.., your "reasonable" most certainly will not be what i consider "reasonable", i'll be right up front with you and every fucking liberfool here, in plain English, without trying to pick it apart this is my "REASONABLE"

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

now, show me your version of "reasonable" !!

Should you be allowed armor piercing ammo? You would need them if the government ever got corrupt. What about a tank or armed drone?

Yes to all of the above.

I'm going to start selling all this high powered weaponry to black and Arab americans.

 

[sealybobo]

Are you in a well regulated militia? Like Tim McVeigh? That's not reasonable.

Should you have mortars and rpg's?

We should have them on the state level in case the feds go full retard on us. But where did you get the idea the militia McVaeigh was in was regulated by anyone?

Who regulates your militia?

 

[Billy000]

Too bad, your opinions aren't really facts. Regulatory and tax uncertainty is causing business to sit on their hands. As for #2 you're just full of it.

Regulations do very little to hinder job growth. The BLS stats prove that.

Anyone who believes a government regulatory agency when it says regulations don't cost anything is a certified fool

You aren't paying attention. I didn't say it didn't cost anything. I said it costs jobs little per year.

 

[Billy000]

1) if you want to stimulate economic growth, you help the middle class and poor, not the wealthy. Think about this. The wealthy are doing better now MORE THAN EVER BERORE, so why has growth not been faster? It's because the middle class is shrinking because of rising income inequality. The rise in income inequality will only destabilize our economy even further because consumer spending is decreasing. Consumer spending is vital to the economy - it accounts for 70% of it.

Meanwhile, all this stimulus (tax cuts) to the wealthy does jack shit for the economy overall. Why? Two reasons: A) the wealthy are investing less and less these days because it is just easier for them to keep the money they save rather than make huge investments to grow their business. B) the wealthy, individually when it comes to consumer spending, spend just as much money as someone in the middle class does when it comes to daily/monthly purchases. Sure they make extravagant purchases, but those ultimately do little for the economy at large.

2) Most Americans side with liberal issues that republicans oppose like raising the minimum wage, certain gun control laws, extending unemployment benefits, and gay marriage. Oh and recent polls show that most Americans believe in dramatic climate change and want the gov to do something about it.

You do realize you are wrong on both counts?

If you want to help the middle class, you remove the downward pressure on business (regulations and big government) so that middle class job creation can happen.

In addition, the majority of the country is right of center.

Have a nice night.

Regulations do very little to inhibit job growth. The BLS data proves that.

Horeseshit. Regulations have prevented a single new oil refinery from being built in this country in the last 50 years. Now Obama is creating regulations that will shut down all the coal fired power plants. Those are just two examples. Do you claim that isn't inhibiting job growth?

I am saying overall national job growth is affected only slightly.

That's still horseshit. Economic growth has decreased steadily as the regulatory regime has expanded.

Even if growth had decreased steadily (it has not), it's a big stretch to say regulations are to blame.

 

[Misty]

Democrats have been spewing this same BS for decades and you billy boy just pointed out that your plan doesn't work.

What works is motivation incentive and creativity. Not pity free money printing money and stacking Wall Street with it to make it appear as if the economy is doing better when actually it's never been SO bad.

 

[Iceweasel]

Are you in a well regulated militia? Like Tim McVeigh? That's not reasonable.

Should you have mortars and rpg's?

We should have them on the state level in case the feds go full retard on us. But where did you get the idea the militia McVaeigh was in was regulated by anyone?

Who regulates your militia?

You couldn't answer the question.

 

[Decus]

1) if you want to stimulate economic growth, you help the middle class and poor, not the wealthy. Think about this..

.

Obama has said that France has an approach to providing benefits to workers that the US should adopt:

"Extolling the business virtues of helping workers balance family and employment demands, including providing paid time off for the birth of a child, Obama said that if France can provide the benefits, so can the United States."

Obama cites France as standard for workplace benefits WashingtonExaminer.com

Not only has France stepped away from a 75% wealth tax but now the French president is pushing through legislation to support business and provide tax relief to these job producing institutions:

"French president François Hollande took drastic action on Tuesday to ram through a package of business-friendly economic reforms, overriding parliament to stamp out a rebellion within his own ruling Socialist party and avert a government crisis."

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3e2f4314-b67b-11e4-a5f2-00144feab7de.html

Even the Socialists can see this as necessary. Too friggin funny.

.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Your 1# is why I feel that the republicans are bad for this country...While your 2# is a mix bag for me.

-I like the minimum wage
-Building renewables to fight climate change

But I don't really like gays

Wheres legalizing pot?

Number one is a liberal delusion that ignores economics. It was conceived to justify big government. It's Voo Doo.

1# was made because of the industrial revolution made people insanely rich on the backs of the workers. The industrial revolution and the problems that came from it came after our founders(1770-1790) pretty much. So our problems of making sure the worker isn't treated like a bunch of ******* for some guys love of hoarding all the money...Well, this is what it is all about. Do you even agree with breaking up monopolies and cleaning up the conditions of the workers? Wouldn't be better then Vietnam and probably worse if we didn't use government to make it happen.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

1) if you want to stimulate economic growth, you help the middle class and poor, not the wealthy. Think about this. The wealthy are doing better now MORE THAN EVER BERORE, so why has growth not been faster? It's because the middle class is shrinking because of rising income inequality. The rise in income inequality will only destabilize our economy even further because consumer spending is decreasing. Consumer spending is vital to the economy - it accounts for 70% of it.

Meanwhile, all this stimulus (tax cuts) to the wealthy does jack shit for the economy overall. Why? Two reasons: A) the wealthy are investing less and less these days because it is just easier for them to keep the money they save rather than make huge investments to grow their business. And even if they were investing more money, it wouldn't do jack shit to increase economic demand which is ultimately what matters. Businesses invest more when demand is up. B) the wealthy, individually when it comes to consumer spending, spend just as much money as someone in the middle class does when it comes to daily/monthly purchases. Sure they make extravagant purchases, but those ultimately do little for the economy at large.

2) Most Americans side with liberal issues that republicans oppose like raising the minimum wage, certain gun control laws, extending unemployment benefits, and gay marriage. Oh and recent polls show that most Americans believe in dramatic climate change and want the gov to do something about it.

Most don't believe in climate change. In light of the recent findings of temperature manipulation, more will acknowledge what a hoax it was.

Why Doesn t Everyone Believe Humans Are Causing Climate Change NOVA Next PBS

 

[bripat9643]

reasonable restrictions.

>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<
you fucking people keep using that word "REASONABLE", yet you can not define the word.., your "reasonable" most certainly will not be what i consider "reasonable", i'll be right up front with you and every fucking liberfool here, in plain English, without trying to pick it apart this is my "REASONABLE"

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

now, show me your version of "reasonable" !!

Should you be allowed armor piercing ammo? You would need them if the government ever got corrupt. What about a tank or armed drone?

Yes to all of the above.

I'm going to start selling all this high powered weaponry to black and Arab americans.

There wouldn't be any Arab Americans if the government followed a rational immigration policy. Furthermore, who's going to buy a weapon that might costs tens of thousands of dollars?