I have a question for Trump supporters

[CrusaderFrank]

Billionaires never stop wanting more? Greed and corruption got them there and greed is not a feeling that ever goes away

They're greedy and have lost billions, but all the Democrats in Congress and 90% of Republicans made $5MM each on average

See the problem?

 

[Oddball]

You do know that Xi and Putin are allies, don't you?

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[Correll]

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Odd, shouldn't you be gloating about your coming VICTORY, instead of attacking Trump?

I mean, your prediction for the future now, that stupid Trump and stupid Americans are out of the way, are for EUROPEANS and ZELENSKY to win, right?

 

[Luckyone]

Odd, shouldn't you be gloating about your coming VICTORY, instead of attacking Trump?

I mean, your prediction for the future now, that stupid Trump and stupid Americans are out of the way, are for EUROPEANS and ZELENSKY to win, right?

Europeans and Zelenski to win what? Is winning mean defending the rights to freedom?

 

[Correll]

Europeans and Zelenski to win what? Is winning mean defending the rights to freedom?

Winning means, by your side's arguments, pushing Russia completely out of the ukraine and maybe even toppling Putin.

So, Trump is out. Europe with it's larger population and size, relative to the US, or Russia, is clearly capable of supporting the Ukraine without US.

So, when do you expect to wrap up this war? Or at least could you give us a hint when you hope to see the ukrainians stop losing ground and to take taking it back?

 

[Luckyone]

Winning means, by your side's arguments, pushing Russia completely out of the ukraine and maybe even toppling Putin.

So, Trump is out. Europe with it's larger population and size, relative to the US, or Russia, is clearly capable of supporting the Ukraine without US.

So, when do you expect to wrap up this war? Or at least could you give us a hint when you hope to see the ukrainians stop losing ground and to take taking it back?

Stupid question that has already been answered.

 

[Correll]

Stupid question that has already been answered.

No, it wasn't. Maybe you think you implied it, or something, but that is not a clear answer.

I ask again, So, when do you expect to wrap up this war? Or at least could you give us a hint when you hope to see the ukrainians stop losing ground and to take taking it back?


Cause, MY worry, is that the ukrainians, reach the end of THEIR rope and THEY start to collapse. What happens then?

 

[Luckyone]

No, it wasn't. Maybe you think you implied it, or something, but that is not a clear answer.

I ask again, So, when do you expect to wrap up this war? Or at least could you give us a hint when you hope to see the ukrainians stop losing ground and to take taking it back?


Cause, MY worry, is that the ukrainians, reach the end of THEIR rope and THEY start to collapse. What happens then?

I do not expect that the war will be "wrapped up". Russia has to agree to stop and that is not going to happen unless Zelenski agrees with whatever is offered and I don't think he will, unless it is what helps Ukraine. They (and not Trump) are the ones to decide that. I cannot read Zelenski's mind but I do not think he will agree unless things change. It is his prerogative.

Having said all of that, this is still about freedom and justice.

As far as Ukraine reaching the end of the rope, they have never had any rope other than the rope that was given to them by NATO and the European nations and the U.S. The European nations will not be withdrawing their rope. Trump is likely to take his rope away. The rope that has been there has been sufficient for them to make what was supposed to be a 3-day war with a total loss to being a 3-year war with the Russians losing more than the Ukrainians, If Trump withdraws his support, he will look like a total asshole (letting a Dictator win).

That is it in a nutshell. This is my last post to you on this topic. There is nothing else to say. You are entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion, you are acting like Trump (meaning you are being an asshole too).

End of story

 

[Luckyone]

Redfish

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Redfish

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Wow. How mature.

And y'all wonder why no one here takes you seriously.


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[WelfareQueen]

Nope. He is letting Putin walk all over him while tRump makes cow eyes and kissy faces at him.

Really? Putin invade Ukraine under Obama and Biden. What has Trump given Putin....and be specific.

 

[Correll]

I do not expect that the war will be "wrapped up". Russia has to agree to stop and that is not going to happen unless Zelenski agrees with whatever is offered and I don't think he will, unless it is what helps Ukraine. They (and not Trump) are the ones to decide that. I cannot read Zelenski's mind but I do not think he will agree unless things change. It is his prerogative.

Having said all of that, this is still about freedom and justice.

As far as Ukraine reaching the end of the rope, they have never had any rope other than the rope that was given to them by NATO and the European nations and the U.S. The European nations will not be withdrawing their rope. Trump is likely to take his rope away. The rope that has been there has been sufficient for them to make what was supposed to be a 3-day war with a total loss to being a 3-year war with the Russians losing more than the Ukrainians, If Trump withdraws his support, he will look like a total asshole (letting a Dictator win).

That is it in a nutshell. This is my last post to you on this topic. There is nothing else to say. You are entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion, you are acting like Trump (meaning you are being an asshole too).

End of story

Well, that was really unclear.

Do you believe that the Europeans are able to support Ukraine enough without US? Or not?


If not, then Zelensky was stupid to play so hard with Trump.

If yes, then what's the problem? THey can keep going without US.

 

[Luckyone]

Well, that was really unclear.

Do you believe that the Europeans are able to support Ukraine enough without US? Or not?


If not, then Zelensky was stupid to play so hard with Trump.

If yes, then what's the problem? THey can keep going without US.

I don't have answers for you. One thing for SURE though, if Trump pulls out, he will look like an asshole (which of course, he is)

Anyhow, as I said the last post. End of story

 

[Luckyone]

Really? Putin invade Ukraine under Obama and Biden. What has Trump given Putin....and be specific.

What has Trump given Putin? You really asking?

Let's see:

1) pardon (or blindness) for his sins
2) Support for his way of doing things
3) Less sanctions that were suggested be given (he gave Putin some token sanctions in his first presidency because Congress forced him to do so)
4) Miss Universe in Moscow (at Putin's request)
5) Attention and praise (making Putin in his supporter's eyes, not be such an enemy as he actually is)


Is that specific enough for you?

 

[WelfareQueen]

What has Trump given Putin? You really asking?

Let's see:

1) pardon (or blindness) for his sins
2) Support for his way of doing things
3) Less sanctions that were suggested be given (he gave Putin some token sanctions in his first presidency because Congress forced him to do so)
4) Miss Universe in Moscow (at Putin's request)
5) Attention and praise (making Putin in his supporter's eyes, not be such an enemy as he actually is)


Is that specific enough for you?

What pardon? Be specific.

What support? Be specific

Less sanctions? Be specific

Miss Universe.

Attention and praise? You're fucking joking, right?

 

[Luckyone]

What pardon? Be specific. He is not punishing Putin for invading Ukraine

What support? Be specific. He is saying Putin is great and a good leader. That is called supporting him.

Less sanctions? Be specific. Compared to Biden, the sanctions that Trump imposed on Putin were measly. Congress wanted to punish Putin for what he was doing in the world and Trump did not want to do it. As such, he was forced to impose some token sanctions that did not really cause Putin any damage but fulfilled Congress request.

Miss Universe. Yes, it was done at the request of Putin.

Attention and praise? You're fucking joking, right? No, see it here straight from the horse's mouth:

 

[Luckyone]

Really? Putin invade Ukraine under Obama and Biden. What has Trump given Putin....and be specific.

And one more thing that Trump has done for Putin and it happened TODAY

Trump makes huge concession to Russia​

Donald Trump has signaled both publicly and privately that he no longer considers Russia a major cyber threat to US national security and critical infrastructure. The shift, which starkly contradicts years of warnings from intelligence officials, has raised alarm among cybersecurity experts who fear that the United States is leaving itself exposed to Russian cyberattacks just as global tensions reach boiling point.

He has now opened the door for Russia to hack our services so that he can cause chaos in the U.S.

 

[westwall]

And one more thing that Trump has done for Putin and it happened TODAY

Trump makes huge concession to Russia​

Donald Trump has signaled both publicly and privately that he no longer considers Russia a major cyber threat to US national security and critical infrastructure. The shift, which starkly contradicts years of warnings from intelligence officials, has raised alarm among cybersecurity experts who fear that the United States is leaving itself exposed to Russian cyberattacks just as global tensions reach boiling point.

He has now opened the door for Russia to hack our services so that he can cause chaos in the U.S.

What concessions. Be very specific.

 

[Correll]

I don't have answers for you. One thing for SURE though, if Trump pulls out, he will look like an asshole (which of course, he is)

Anyhow, as I said the last post. End of story

You don't know if the europeans can support ukraine without us, but you support them anyways?

How can you support them, risking the survival of Ukraine as a free nation, if you don't at least have a serious belief that they have the capacity to do that to which they have committed?

 

[Leo123]

I'm not a Trump supporters but we really have no clue what position Trump will take in Ukraine.

He never supports this or that, he only supports what he see's as best for himself.

Trump will take the position of an arbitrator. Zalenskyy has no cards, this negotiation will be between Trump and Putin. Maybe Zalenskyy will learn something.