I get that people are upset that Mandani won New York, is this a case of "the lady doth protest too much, methinks"?

[Rawley]

We'll see about Mamdani. But he Is just a mayor and the right is blowing a mayor's election out of proportion to distract us from the current PRESIDENTS failures, and his scandals, ie:

EPSTEIN.

Because what Mamdani does in New York City does not affect me here in Kansas, but Trump and his fascism do.

Seek help

 

[leftwinger]

Even a a TDS billionaire like Bloomberg would now appear tolerable..

 

[Dorian Mode]

I thought that in 08' below $10T. Somehow they spent their way out of it. Getting rich off the phony stimulus. Paying unions and LW organizations to take permanent control. Almost worked. May still work. Deep state gets richer every year. Depressing as all get out.

People should stop following the media's propaganda headlines and start following the money. There is a reason the wealth gap is growing so fast and that reason is not Trump. People should watch how the elite invest their money in the government and how much ROI they get from that money. To me it seems the elite are now milking the cash cow until the milk stops. The party stops when there is no more middle class. Then it's off to the next country with higher ROIs.

 

[leftwinger]

We'll see about Mamdani. But he Is just a mayor and the right is blowing a mayor's election out of proportion to distract us from the current PRESIDENTS failures, and his scandals, ie:

EPSTEIN.

Because what Mamdani does in New York City does not affect me here in Kansas, but Trump and his fascism do.

Right, some 20 yr old SHE says HE SAYS soap opera storyline is more important than a city of 17million going communist (allegedly).

 

[CowboyTed]

First, Cumo and the French beret guy were both horrible alternatives. Trump wasted his endorsement and he almost certainly knew it.

In regards to all the pearl clutching, is this a case of protesting too much? For every action is a reaction and New York surely needs to take a different approach as what they had is not working. The influx of illegals isn't helpful.

Trump started on fire, tariffs to protect jobs, got the price of eggs down, demanded agreements that foreign governments invest (he need that to be enforceable with many billions in fines if they don't). He was rolling.

Then he got preoccupied with international issues that cost him a great amount of political capital, and, it wasn't helpful for him as Americans wanted jobs and help and it probably opened the door for such candidates in a far-left city like New York. When your government signed off on the massive deficit increase it kept the money supply flowing, thus, inflation. He has driven the inflation number down but he needs to focus on winning for America and making sure Europe carries their weight in Ukraine, this will prevent the nation from seeking help from the far-left.

That is how to win the day. Everyone pulling their hair out over this guy isn't helpful until he illustrates what he is and what he isn't.

Am I right or is this guy more of a threat than I know? I didn't follow it closely but it's been a pile-on, reminding me of the treatment Trump received.

Thing is...

What has Mandami not proposed that isn't in some way in some European cities already... New York by population density and society are closer to Europe...
The NY Subway is as developed and used as much as the London Underground and Paris Metro...
The planning is all about going up rather than out...
NY is far more integrated society which creates a lot of wealth but need investment as well... It need its large social programs to preform... This includes workers (including Police, Teachers, Fire Dept...) being able to live and work in the city... This is about mixed living economically..

---------------

As for Trump, Tariffs are a disaster and he has been offered off ramps by the senate and he doesn't understand why he should get off... The subject clearly shows how little Trump knows about economics and how easily manipulated he can be... Sweeping Tariffs have been a proven disaster, countries thrive on trade...

Trump was given a gift by Obama call TPP and he hadn't ******* clue why it was the winner for him.

Global Inflation was main driver , according to the world bank by Oil Price increases, this was caused by an Oil Supply restriction of 12%. This agreementment was put together in April 2020... Who put that agreement together...

What Explains Global Inflation

This paper examines the drivers of fluctuations in global inflation, defined as a common factor across monthly headline consumer price index (CPI) inflation in G7 countries, over the past half-century.

www.worldbank.org

https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/special-report-trump-told-saudi-cut-oil-supply-or-lose-us-military-support--idUSKBN22C1V3/

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So Mandami is doing stuff which every other country is doing or looking at doing...

Trump does deals to make his buddy Oil Companies rich and make Global Inflation rocket...

Yet Mandami is the threat...

Yes Mandami is the threat. If he proves that free buses and taxing the uber rich works, then everyone will call MAGA/GOP bullshiters and eject them from government.

 

[eagle1462010]

Even a a TDS billionaire like Bloomberg would now appear tolerable..

Perhaps they go full extreme to get less extreme later?

 

[shockedcanadian]

How is it not working?

When you elect a far-left self avowed socialist and based on him saying in the past "seizing the means of production", you know that whatever you have in place currently isn't working for citizens.

This is why I have been complaining about "corporatism", The "capitalist" promoters today are not capitalists at all. Big tax breaks for Amazon as they move jobs to China? Makes no damn sense and this is why I agreed with AOC about keeping Amazon out. GOP will complain "she cost her state jobs", when it's a false dichotomy. No, she didn't say not to build in New York, she said "no special breaks for you from taxpayers". It may have been the first and only time I agreed with AOC.

If taxpayers are going to continue to prop up companies like China does why not just take the Norway approach with their oil industry, build a state funded company, extract oil, sell it to the world and give money back to citizens. Norwegians are wealthy due to this, not one mega trillionaire.

Capitalism means "I take my personal capital, via loan, venture capitalism or savings from myself or many other peoples capital and I risk it for profit", It's not "I build a big company and then demand the government gives me billion in contracts or breaks which prevent ANY competition". That simply isn't capitalism and it's why you have congress in power for 40 years, Ridiculous.

I love pure capitalism. It's why Edison and the Wright Brothers pushed the envelope to create. The risk is what makes men thrive and drive creation. Hand outs make former driven business owners, fat, lazy and uncreative since there is no risk.

Of course people are going to resent this approach and they will say "if our taxes are being handed out, it shouldn't be to multi-billion dollar companies, that is NOT capitalism. Even a monkey could run a successful business if they are given billions of dollars in taxpayer money.

It is creating the gross gap between the wealthy and working poor. It will end in communism, it will lead to you losing your rights and it when it takes over America, it will be the fake capitalists who are to blame.

 

[leftwinger]

Thing is...

What has Mandami not proposed that isn't in some way in some European cities already... New York by population density and society are closer to Europe...
The NY Subway is as developed and used as much as the London Underground and Paris Metro...
The planning is all about going up rather than out...
NY is far more integrated society which creates a lot of wealth but need investment as well... It need its large social programs to preform... This includes workers (including Police, Teachers, Fire Dept...) being able to live and work in the city... This is about mixed living economically..

---------------

As for Trump, Tariffs are a disaster and he has been offered off ramps by the senate and he doesn't understand why he should get off... The subject clearly shows how little Trump knows about economics and how easily manipulated he can be... Sweeping Tariffs have been a proven disaster, countries thrive on trade...

Trump was given a gift by Obama call TPP and he hadn't ******* clue why it was the winner for him.

Global Inflation was main driver , according to the world bank by Oil Price increases, this was caused by an Oil Supply restriction of 12%. This agreementment was put together in April 2020... Who put that agreement together...

What Explains Global Inflation

This paper examines the drivers of fluctuations in global inflation, defined as a common factor across monthly headline consumer price index (CPI) inflation in G7 countries, over the past half-century.

www.worldbank.org

https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/special-report-trump-told-saudi-cut-oil-supply-or-lose-us-military-support--idUSKBN22C1V3/

--------------

So Mandami is doing stuff which every other country is doing or looking at doing...

Trump does deals to make his buddy Oil Companies rich and make Global Inflation rocket...

Yet Mandami is the threat...

Yes Mandami is the threat. If he proves that free buses and taxing the uber rich works, then everyone will call MAGA/GOP bullshiters and eject them from government.

TDS much broke back home O cowboy TED?

Sooner or later they run out of other peoples money to spend. Already proven it can't work for long.

How does he get into "uber-wealthy" savings, homes or investments?

 

[Dorian Mode]

When you elect a far-left self avowed socialist and based on him saying in the past "seizing the means of production", you know that whatever you have in place currently isn't working for citizens.

This is why I have been complaining about "corporatism", The "capitalist" promoters today are not capitalists at all. Big tax breaks for Amazon as they move jobs to China? Makes no damn sense and this is why I agreed with AOC about keeping Amazon out. GOP will complain "she cost her state jobs", when it's a false dichotomy. No, she didn't say not to build in New York, she said "no special breaks for you from taxpayers". It may have been the first and only time I agreed with AOC.

If taxpayers are going to continue to prop up companies like China does why not just take the Norway approach with their oil industry, build a state funded company, extract oil, sell it to the world and give money back to citizens. Norwegians are wealthy due to this, not one mega trillionaire.

Capitalism means "I take my personal capital, via loan, venture capitalism or savings from myself or many other peoples capital and I risk it for profit", It's not "I build a big company and then demand the government gives me billion in contracts or breaks which prevent ANY competition". That simply isn't capitalism and it's why you have congress in power for 40 years, Ridiculous.

I love pure capitalism. It's why Edison and the Wright Brothers pushed the envelope to create. The risk is what makes men thrive and drive creation. Hand outs make former driven business owners, fat, lazy and uncreative since there is no risk.

Of course people are going to resent this approach and they will say "if our taxes are being handed out, it shouldn't be to multi-billion dollar companies, that is NOT capitalism. Even a monkey could run a successful business if they are given billions of dollars in taxpayer money.

It is creating the gross gap between the wealthy and working poor. It will end in communism, it will lead to you losing your rights and it when it takes over America, it will be the fake capitalists who are to blame.

People think the government isn't working for the people because they wrongly think the government is in place to work for the people. The government was put in place to protect the capital class from the people. Over time the government was corrupted to also benefit the capital class to help them get much more capital. The government is working just fine. Everything else is just political theater to keep the people working for and benefitting the capital class. Their new carrot on the stick is "We hate the billionaires, let's eat the rich!" and the people fall for it.

 

[CowboyTed]

TDS much broke back home O cowboy TED?

Sooner or later they run out of other peoples money to spend. Already proven it can't work for long.

How does he get into "uber-wealthy" savings, homes or investments?

Well then you have nothing to fear from Mandami...

Personally I think when NYC sees that like London, Amsterdam and all these countries that highly functioning society needs a highly functioning Government, they won't be in favour of going back... Certainly London and the other european Cities won't....
Remember when Congestion charging (idea robbed from Europe) was deeply unpopular...

NYC congestion pricing has more support than ever as Trump deadline looms, new poll finds

President Donald Trump’s administration has given New York until March 21 to comply with its order to halt Manhattan’s new congestion pricing system. But state officials are vowing to press on with the tolling program.

www.nbcnewyork.com

The Siena College poll found that 42% of New York City residents want the congestion pricing toll to stay, while a slightly smaller 35% support President Donald Trump's attempts to squash the tolling program aimed at lessening vehicle traffic in Manhattan and funding the MTA.
New Yorkers are seeing the benefit of less cars, more bike lanes and walking areas... NY Subway improving... Mandami wants to improve the buses considerably as well... New tyros with less cars will make it far more lovable city...

 

[Rawley]

When you elect a far-left self avowed socialist and based on him saying in the past "seizing the means of production", you know that whatever you have in place currently isn't working for citizens.

I agree there is something wrong in NYC, but it's not capitalism. The wealth gap between the rich, middle class and the working poor is no different today in NYC than is was 30 years ago.

The problem is with the Democratic party. They have been taken over by these charismatic socialists, AOC, Mandami, that are offering people free shit. And no one in the party has the balls to step up to them.

It the entire reason the Federal gvt is shut down. Schumer is scared shitless of them and apparently 45 other Democrats are too,

 

[Invisibleflash]

First, Cumo and the French beret guy were both horrible alternatives. Trump wasted his endorsement and he almost certainly knew it.

In regards to all the pearl clutching, is this a case of protesting too much? For every action is a reaction and New York surely needs to take a different approach as what they had is not working. The influx of illegals isn't helpful.

Trump started on fire, tariffs to protect jobs, got the price of eggs down, demanded agreements that foreign governments invest (he need that to be enforceable with many billions in fines if they don't). He was rolling.

Then he got preoccupied with international issues that cost him a great amount of political capital, and, it wasn't helpful for him as Americans wanted jobs and help and it probably opened the door for such candidates in a far-left city like New York. When your government signed off on the massive deficit increase it kept the money supply flowing, thus, inflation. He has driven the inflation number down but he needs to focus on winning for America and making sure Europe carries their weight in Ukraine, this will prevent the nation from seeking help from the far-left.

That is how to win the day. Everyone pulling their hair out over this guy isn't helpful until he illustrates what he is and what he isn't.

Am I right or is this guy more of a threat than I know? I didn't follow it closely but it's been a pile-on, reminding me of the treatment Trump received.

Time will tell bub. We will see what he does in NYC with his grand plan of municipal socialism.

AI

Municipal socialism is a political approach that uses local government to achieve socialist goals, typically by expanding the public sector and municipal ownership of essential services like utilities and transportation. It focuses on using city and town governments to improve public welfare, create humane urban environments, and ensure essential services are provided for the benefit of all residents, not just for private profit.

Core principles

• Expansion of the public sector: A central aim is to create and expand a robust public sector that provides essential services to urban populations.
• Municipal ownership: This involves local governments owning and operating key infrastructure and services, such as water, gas, electricity, and public transportation.
• Social welfare: It prioritizes using municipal power and spending to improve living conditions, public health, and the overall well-being of the community.
• Democratic control: The model seeks to make services and administration more democratic and accountable to the public, rather than being controlled by private interests.

Historical context

• Late 19th and early 20th centuries: This was the initial period for municipal socialism, with socialists and reformers using local government to enact change, especially after national movements faltered.
• Key examples: Cities in the United States (like Milwaukee and Detroit) and Europe (like Glasgow and Bielefeld) became centers for this movement, with mayors and local councils advancing policies like public utilities and affordable housing.
• Contemporary relevance: The principles of municipal socialism are being rediscovered today in movements that focus on local activism to create more humane and democratic cities.

 

[leftwinger]

Well then you have nothing to fear from Mandami...

Personally I think when NYC sees that like London, Amsterdam and all these countries that highly functioning society needs a highly functioning Government, they won't be in favour of going back... Certainly London and the other european Cities won't....
Remember when Congestion charging (idea robbed from Europe) was deeply unpopular...

NYC congestion pricing has more support than ever as Trump deadline looms, new poll finds

President Donald Trump’s administration has given New York until March 21 to comply with its order to halt Manhattan’s new congestion pricing system. But state officials are vowing to press on with the tolling program.

www.nbcnewyork.com

The Siena College poll found that 42% of New York City residents want the congestion pricing toll to stay, while a slightly smaller 35% support President Donald Trump's attempts to squash the tolling program aimed at lessening vehicle traffic in Manhattan and funding the MTA.
New Yorkers are seeing the benefit of less cars, more bike lanes and walking areas... NY Subway improving... Mandami wants to improve the buses considerably as well... New tyros with less cars will make it far more lovable city...

Bring on the CA Lexus lanes! The elite love it.

Got it, you say the poor love biking in from Brooklyn or Queens in 30MPH DEC blizzard you dumb OX.

 

[Papageorgio]

I see this a mistake the the City of New York has made. He can’t fulfill his promises, pure amd simple. This will be a failure.

 

[blackhawk]

I’m not upset about it the guy was basically running unopposed his opponents were a Republican who had zero chance of winning and a scandal ridden former Democrat Governor who had more baggage than an airport baggage claim. I don’t live in New York so his policies are not my problem he is what New York wanted so be it.

 

[Scoutster]

 

[IM2]

The thread's not about TRUMP!. Try again.

STHU. Like I said, your whining and bitching bout Mamdani doesn't mean jack shit. He is a mayor. If you don't live in New York you really don't have anything to say. But as I said, Trump and his fascism affect us all.

 

[IM2]

Don't you think everyone is grossly overreacting to politics? TDS is way off the charts and halfway to the Andromeda galaxy. The reaction to Mamdani is another example in the opposite direction. The truth is, the people lost control of their government almost 250 years ago when the first politicians started doing what the bankers wanted instead of benefitting the people. What we have today is just political theater while the politicians lie to get votes and then do what those with money tell them to do. It really is absurd to think that politicians are working for the people when there is so little proof of that and substantial proof against it. People have to stop thinking that the government is a benefit to them so they can get everything they need. When you get to be a multi-millionaire the government starts listening to you and benefitting you. After you donated. We here are just spectators.

There is no such thing as TDS. DTS is more like it. Stop voting for politicians who don't give a damn about you. Other politicians do exist that actually want to do right.

 

[hadit]

STHU. Like I said, your whining and bitching bout Mamdani doesn't mean jack shit. He is a mayor. If you don't live in New York you really don't have anything to say. But as I said, Trump and his fascism affect us all.

So start a thread about your favorite strawman. Go ahead, people might comment. This one is about the governor of New York, and I have the same authority to post about him that you do, so if you're upset about people talking about him, go away.

 

[hadit]

There is no such thing as TDS. DTS more ike it.

I think it's been medically established that those afflicted with TDS often don't realize they're infected until it's too late. In fact, we have seen some so completely off their meds that they babble about it not even being a real thing, all the while the rest of the world is sadly shaking their heads and muttering, "Poor thing, doesn't even know he's got a terminal case".

Stop voting for politicians who don't give a damn about you.

The smart among us, aka Republicans, know that politicians by and large don't give a flying rat's patoot about the voters and only want to enrich themselves. How else do you think Bernie, AOC and Pelosi, to name a few, get to be multi-millionaires on a few hundred grand a year? It's not from representing anyone.

Other politicians do exist that actually want to do right.

Democrats can't even bring themselves to restore funding for programs that feed the poor. They certainly don't care about the voters. We all need to stop voting for them.