I don’t understand why republicans are so selective about the definition of socialism

[Dragonlady]

To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.

Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?

HOLY FUCK!
How many different ways can you frame “GIVE ME FREE SHIT”?
Dude look, we totally get it...you’re unable to pay your own way...FUCK stop embarrassing yourself.

You really are genuinly dumber than a sack of hammers if you think "socialism" is defined as "free shit". The best thing is that Republicans love their "free shit". Tax breaks for billionaires, free rides for corporations

And they've convinced the gullible that they shouldn't worry about free shit for corporations who get billions of dollars of tax breaks, and subsidies, but those poor inner city people are bleeding you white. That you believe these lies shows what fools Republican voters really are.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.

Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?

HOLY FUCK!
How many different ways can you frame “GIVE ME FREE SHIT”?
Dude look, we totally get it...you’re unable to pay your own way...FUCK stop embarrassing yourself.

You really are genuinly dumber than a sack of hammers if you think "socialism" is defined as "free shit". The best thing is that Republicans love their "free shit". Tax breaks for billionaires, free rides for corporations

And they've convinced the gullible that they shouldn't worry about free shit for corporations who get billions of dollars of tax breaks, and subsidies, but those poor inner city people are bleeding you white. That you believe these lies shows what fools Republican voters really are.

And you really do not give a shit about the poor either or the fact the U.S. Government can not even give our Veterans decent Healthcare and yet you believe the U.S. Government can run a massive Universal Healthcare!?!

Also if people believe we would get Medicare for All then you will have to carry supplemental Healthcare Insurance which would be provided by a private insurance agency like is done now, so you get taxed and still pay for private insurance...

 

[Dragonlady]

To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.

Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?

HOLY FUCK!
How many different ways can you frame “GIVE ME FREE SHIT”?
Dude look, we totally get it...you’re unable to pay your own way...FUCK stop embarrassing yourself.

You really are genuinly dumber than a sack of hammers if you think "socialism" is defined as "free shit". The best thing is that Republicans love their "free shit". Tax breaks for billionaires, free rides for corporations

And they've convinced the gullible that they shouldn't worry about free shit for corporations who get billions of dollars of tax breaks, and subsidies, but those poor inner city people are bleeding you white. That you believe these lies shows what fools Republican voters really are.

And you really do not give a shit about the poor either or the fact the U.S. Government can not even give our Veterans decent Healthcare and yet you believe the U.S. Government can run a massive Universal Healthcare!?!

Also if people believe we would get Medicare for All then you will have to carry supplemental Healthcare Insurance which would be provided by a private insurance agency like is done now, so you get taxed and still pay for private insurance...

Bullshit. The vets have the BEST health care in the USA. Just ask anyone who is being served by the VA. They have a very high approval rating.

But the VA is seriously underfunded, and doesn't have adequate staff or resources. It was never intended to deal with 18 years of continuous warfare.

How is it that the USA is the only country in the first world which cannot figure out how to effectively deliver healthcare for all, at a reasonable rate? Possibly because Republicans don't want these programs to be successful. They design your government programs poorly so that they're expensive, inefficient, and don't work as advertized.

Every other first world nation manages to take care of their people effectively and at a decent cost. Americans overpay for everything and get bad results. You're the ONLY first world country with "for profit" medicine which is actually REDUCING your life expectancy. That's the proof that your system doesn't work. The rest of the world is extending life expectancy. Healthy people aren't profitable.

 

[Ken Mac]

To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.

Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?

Billy, just to make it simple, look at socialism as a pyramid scheme. Bernie Madoff is a typical socialist, just like Bernie Sanders.

Is Trump not a socialist with his bailout? Can you explain how?

Trump gives money away to help people. Socialists keep the money to pass out free shit to freeloaders for votes.

With socialism, it is the people who control the tax money and the economy, so it goes to whatever they vote for.
So the only free stuff that is given out is what benefits everyone, like public education and health care.

Wow, this has to be the most naive thing I've ever read.

Every post by Rigby on this thread is either naive, wrong, or misleading or a combination of the three.

Mostly naive though.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.

Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?

HOLY FUCK!
How many different ways can you frame “GIVE ME FREE SHIT”?
Dude look, we totally get it...you’re unable to pay your own way...FUCK stop embarrassing yourself.

You really are genuinly dumber than a sack of hammers if you think "socialism" is defined as "free shit". The best thing is that Republicans love their "free shit". Tax breaks for billionaires, free rides for corporations

And they've convinced the gullible that they shouldn't worry about free shit for corporations who get billions of dollars of tax breaks, and subsidies, but those poor inner city people are bleeding you white. That you believe these lies shows what fools Republican voters really are.

And you really do not give a shit about the poor either or the fact the U.S. Government can not even give our Veterans decent Healthcare and yet you believe the U.S. Government can run a massive Universal Healthcare!?!

Also if people believe we would get Medicare for All then you will have to carry supplemental Healthcare Insurance which would be provided by a private insurance agency like is done now, so you get taxed and still pay for private insurance...

Bullshit. The vets have the BEST health care in the USA. Just ask anyone who is being served by the VA. They have a very high approval rating.

But the VA is seriously underfunded, and doesn't have adequate staff or resources. It was never intended to deal with 18 years of continuous warfare.

How is it that the USA is the only country in the first world which cannot figure out how to effectively deliver healthcare for all, at a reasonable rate? Possibly because Republicans don't want these programs to be successful. They design your government programs poorly so that they're expensive, inefficient, and don't work as advertized.

Every other first world nation manages to take care of their people effectively and at a decent cost. Americans overpay for everything and get bad results. You're the ONLY first world country with "for profit" medicine which is actually REDUCING your life expectancy. That's the proof that your system doesn't work. The rest of the world is extending life expectancy. Healthy people aren't profitable.

You are lying again!

Please link where you got that bullshit story that VA has a high rating because I can link many that have hated the system!

Also Dragonlady you mentioned the GOP designed the system to fail while the System we have now was designed by Pelosi, Reid and Obama when it come to the ACA, so are you now claiming they are Republicans?

This remind me when you claimed Pelosi is highly respected and I schooled you with the fact she is hated within her own political party!

So when you come back at me by calling what I wrote is bullshit you better link shit to support your fucking opinion because the fact is you are known to lie!

Fact is many Veterans suffered during Obama years and isn't funny one of the biggest scandals with the VA happened during his time and you believe the U.S. Government can run a bigger program like Universal Healthcare?

Also as you pointed out Universal Healthcare would fail here seeing America is not a one party nation and let me be clear it is not like Canada either seeing it is a Republic of FIFTY STATES and the third largest population on the PLANET and how is China Healthcare?

How are the poor there treated seeing you want to compare something so let compare China taking care of their poor and do they have the same access to healthcare as the political elites and rich have in that country?

 

[Ken Mac]

To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.

Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?

HOLY FUCK!
How many different ways can you frame “GIVE ME FREE SHIT”?
Dude look, we totally get it...you’re unable to pay your own way...FUCK stop embarrassing yourself.

You really are genuinly dumber than a sack of hammers if you think "socialism" is defined as "free shit". The best thing is that Republicans love their "free shit". Tax breaks for billionaires, free rides for corporations

And they've convinced the gullible that they shouldn't worry about free shit for corporations who get billions of dollars of tax breaks, and subsidies, but those poor inner city people are bleeding you white. That you believe these lies shows what fools Republican voters really are.

And you really do not give a shit about the poor either or the fact the U.S. Government can not even give our Veterans decent Healthcare and yet you believe the U.S. Government can run a massive Universal Healthcare!?!

Also if people believe we would get Medicare for All then you will have to carry supplemental Healthcare Insurance which would be provided by a private insurance agency like is done now, so you get taxed and still pay for private insurance...

Bullshit. The vets have the BEST health care in the USA. Just ask anyone who is being served by the VA. They have a very high approval rating.

But the VA is seriously underfunded, and doesn't have adequate staff or resources. It was never intended to deal with 18 years of continuous warfare.

How is it that the USA is the only country in the first world which cannot figure out how to effectively deliver healthcare for all, at a reasonable rate? Possibly because Republicans don't want these programs to be successful. They design your government programs poorly so that they're expensive, inefficient, and don't work as advertized.

Every other first world nation manages to take care of their people effectively and at a decent cost. Americans overpay for everything and get bad results. You're the ONLY first world country with "for profit" medicine which is actually REDUCING your life expectancy. That's the proof that your system doesn't work. The rest of the world is extending life expectancy. Healthy people aren't profitable.

I'm a vet. VA healthcare is shit. It's as bad as healthcare in a third world country. The only reason it is better now is because I can get approval very easily to go to a private doctor. Trump made that happen. It is a WORLD of difference.

So if you aren't a Vet being served by the VA, don't spread fucking lies. The vets of the country would appreciate it.

 

[imawhosure]

To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.

Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?

HOLY FUCK!
How many different ways can you frame “GIVE ME FREE SHIT”?
Dude look, we totally get it...you’re unable to pay your own way...FUCK stop embarrassing yourself.

You really are genuinly dumber than a sack of hammers if you think "socialism" is defined as "free shit". The best thing is that Republicans love their "free shit". Tax breaks for billionaires, free rides for corporations

And they've convinced the gullible that they shouldn't worry about free shit for corporations who get billions of dollars of tax breaks, and subsidies, but those poor inner city people are bleeding you white. That you believe these lies shows what fools Republican voters really are.

And you really do not give a shit about the poor either or the fact the U.S. Government can not even give our Veterans decent Healthcare and yet you believe the U.S. Government can run a massive Universal Healthcare!?!

Also if people believe we would get Medicare for All then you will have to carry supplemental Healthcare Insurance which would be provided by a private insurance agency like is done now, so you get taxed and still pay for private insurance...

Bullshit. The vets have the BEST health care in the USA. Just ask anyone who is being served by the VA. They have a very high approval rating.

But the VA is seriously underfunded, and doesn't have adequate staff or resources. It was never intended to deal with 18 years of continuous warfare.

How is it that the USA is the only country in the first world which cannot figure out how to effectively deliver healthcare for all, at a reasonable rate? Possibly because Republicans don't want these programs to be successful. They design your government programs poorly so that they're expensive, inefficient, and don't work as advertized.

Every other first world nation manages to take care of their people effectively and at a decent cost. Americans overpay for everything and get bad results. You're the ONLY first world country with "for profit" medicine which is actually REDUCING your life expectancy. That's the proof that your system doesn't work. The rest of the world is extending life expectancy. Healthy people aren't profitable.

You are lying again!

Please link where you got that bullshit story that VA has a high rating because I can link many that have hated the system!

Also Dragonlady you mentioned the GOP designed the system to fail while the System we have now was designed by Pelosi, Reid and Obama when it come to the ACA, so are you now claiming they are Republicans?

This remind me when you claimed Pelosi is highly respected and I schooled you with the fact she is hated within her own political party!

So when you come back at me by calling what I wrote is bullshit you better link shit to support your fucking opinion because the fact is you are known to lie!

Fact is many Veterans suffered during Obama years and isn't funny one of the biggest scandals with the VA happened during his time and you believe the U.S. Government can run a bigger program like Universal Healthcare?

Also as you pointed out Universal Healthcare would fail here seeing America is not a one party nation and let me be clear it is not like Canada either seeing it is a Republic of FIFTY STATES and the third largest population on the PLANET and how is China Healthcare?

How are the poor there treated seeing you want to compare something so let compare China taking care of their poor and do they have the same access to healthcare as the political elites and rich have in that country?

This debate gets old. Billy comes back 3 times a month and poses the question differently hoping for a different outcome, lol.

1. Who has the largest economy in the world?

2. Which countrys people on average have the most personal wealth of the large economy's?

3. Which country's people have the most upward mobility?

4. Which country are the rest of the worlds people fighting to break into?

.5. Which country's people have the largest living space as far as dwelling?

6. Which country's people possess the most personal transportation?

7. Which country's people have the most availability of different staples and abundance of food?

8. Which country's people have the most availability of goods?

9. Which country's people are the most overweight, meaning they can afford to eat on demand?

10. Which country has the most people flying all over the world to help other country's because they can.

AND FINALLY, is that country the most, or least Socialistic!

Now who wants to be a Socialist, and if so, why!

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

HOLY FUCK!
How many different ways can you frame “GIVE ME FREE SHIT”?
Dude look, we totally get it...you’re unable to pay your own way...FUCK stop embarrassing yourself.

You really are genuinly dumber than a sack of hammers if you think "socialism" is defined as "free shit". The best thing is that Republicans love their "free shit". Tax breaks for billionaires, free rides for corporations

And they've convinced the gullible that they shouldn't worry about free shit for corporations who get billions of dollars of tax breaks, and subsidies, but those poor inner city people are bleeding you white. That you believe these lies shows what fools Republican voters really are.

And you really do not give a shit about the poor either or the fact the U.S. Government can not even give our Veterans decent Healthcare and yet you believe the U.S. Government can run a massive Universal Healthcare!?!

Also if people believe we would get Medicare for All then you will have to carry supplemental Healthcare Insurance which would be provided by a private insurance agency like is done now, so you get taxed and still pay for private insurance...

Bullshit. The vets have the BEST health care in the USA. Just ask anyone who is being served by the VA. They have a very high approval rating.

But the VA is seriously underfunded, and doesn't have adequate staff or resources. It was never intended to deal with 18 years of continuous warfare.

How is it that the USA is the only country in the first world which cannot figure out how to effectively deliver healthcare for all, at a reasonable rate? Possibly because Republicans don't want these programs to be successful. They design your government programs poorly so that they're expensive, inefficient, and don't work as advertized.

Every other first world nation manages to take care of their people effectively and at a decent cost. Americans overpay for everything and get bad results. You're the ONLY first world country with "for profit" medicine which is actually REDUCING your life expectancy. That's the proof that your system doesn't work. The rest of the world is extending life expectancy. Healthy people aren't profitable.

You are lying again!

Please link where you got that bullshit story that VA has a high rating because I can link many that have hated the system!

Also Dragonlady you mentioned the GOP designed the system to fail while the System we have now was designed by Pelosi, Reid and Obama when it come to the ACA, so are you now claiming they are Republicans?

This remind me when you claimed Pelosi is highly respected and I schooled you with the fact she is hated within her own political party!

So when you come back at me by calling what I wrote is bullshit you better link shit to support your fucking opinion because the fact is you are known to lie!

Fact is many Veterans suffered during Obama years and isn't funny one of the biggest scandals with the VA happened during his time and you believe the U.S. Government can run a bigger program like Universal Healthcare?

Also as you pointed out Universal Healthcare would fail here seeing America is not a one party nation and let me be clear it is not like Canada either seeing it is a Republic of FIFTY STATES and the third largest population on the PLANET and how is China Healthcare?

How are the poor there treated seeing you want to compare something so let compare China taking care of their poor and do they have the same access to healthcare as the political elites and rich have in that country?

This debate gets old. Billy comes back 3 times a month and poses the question differently hoping for a different outcome, lol.

1. Who has the largest economy in the world?

2. Which countrys people on average have the most personal wealth of the large economy's?

3. Which country's people have the most upward mobility?

4. Which country are the rest of the worlds people fighting to break into?

.5. Which country's people have the largest living space as far as dwelling?

6. Which country's people possess the most personal transportation?

7. Which country's people have the most availability of different staples and abundance of food?

8. Which country's people have the most availability of goods?

9. Which country's people are the most overweight, meaning they can afford to eat on demand?

10. Which country has the most people flying all over the world to help other country's because they can.

AND FINALLY, is that country the most, or least Socialistic!

Now who wants to be a Socialist, and if so, why!

You convinced me I need to sneak into North Korea and live the Scoialist Mecca!!!

 

[imawhosure]

You really are genuinly dumber than a sack of hammers if you think "socialism" is defined as "free shit". The best thing is that Republicans love their "free shit". Tax breaks for billionaires, free rides for corporations

And they've convinced the gullible that they shouldn't worry about free shit for corporations who get billions of dollars of tax breaks, and subsidies, but those poor inner city people are bleeding you white. That you believe these lies shows what fools Republican voters really are.

And you really do not give a shit about the poor either or the fact the U.S. Government can not even give our Veterans decent Healthcare and yet you believe the U.S. Government can run a massive Universal Healthcare!?!

Also if people believe we would get Medicare for All then you will have to carry supplemental Healthcare Insurance which would be provided by a private insurance agency like is done now, so you get taxed and still pay for private insurance...

Bullshit. The vets have the BEST health care in the USA. Just ask anyone who is being served by the VA. They have a very high approval rating.

But the VA is seriously underfunded, and doesn't have adequate staff or resources. It was never intended to deal with 18 years of continuous warfare.

How is it that the USA is the only country in the first world which cannot figure out how to effectively deliver healthcare for all, at a reasonable rate? Possibly because Republicans don't want these programs to be successful. They design your government programs poorly so that they're expensive, inefficient, and don't work as advertized.

Every other first world nation manages to take care of their people effectively and at a decent cost. Americans overpay for everything and get bad results. You're the ONLY first world country with "for profit" medicine which is actually REDUCING your life expectancy. That's the proof that your system doesn't work. The rest of the world is extending life expectancy. Healthy people aren't profitable.

You are lying again!

Please link where you got that bullshit story that VA has a high rating because I can link many that have hated the system!

Also Dragonlady you mentioned the GOP designed the system to fail while the System we have now was designed by Pelosi, Reid and Obama when it come to the ACA, so are you now claiming they are Republicans?

This remind me when you claimed Pelosi is highly respected and I schooled you with the fact she is hated within her own political party!

So when you come back at me by calling what I wrote is bullshit you better link shit to support your fucking opinion because the fact is you are known to lie!

Fact is many Veterans suffered during Obama years and isn't funny one of the biggest scandals with the VA happened during his time and you believe the U.S. Government can run a bigger program like Universal Healthcare?

Also as you pointed out Universal Healthcare would fail here seeing America is not a one party nation and let me be clear it is not like Canada either seeing it is a Republic of FIFTY STATES and the third largest population on the PLANET and how is China Healthcare?

How are the poor there treated seeing you want to compare something so let compare China taking care of their poor and do they have the same access to healthcare as the political elites and rich have in that country?

This debate gets old. Billy comes back 3 times a month and poses the question differently hoping for a different outcome, lol.

1. Who has the largest economy in the world?

2. Which countrys people on average have the most personal wealth of the large economy's?

3. Which country's people have the most upward mobility?

4. Which country are the rest of the worlds people fighting to break into?

.5. Which country's people have the largest living space as far as dwelling?

6. Which country's people possess the most personal transportation?

7. Which country's people have the most availability of different staples and abundance of food?

8. Which country's people have the most availability of goods?

9. Which country's people are the most overweight, meaning they can afford to eat on demand?

10. Which country has the most people flying all over the world to help other country's because they can.

AND FINALLY, is that country the most, or least Socialistic!

Now who wants to be a Socialist, and if so, why!

You convinced me I need to sneak into North Korea and live the Scoialist Mecca!!!

You know Bruce, these Leftists keep trying to ask the question 540 different ways to get the outcome they desire. Kinda like wording polls in certain ways to get the splits you want, lol.

They don't get that Americans are on to all their propaganda and bullsh**! And that is not me saying so, it is the results of the mood of the country. They can flail and spin all they want, but just the release of the numbers from Trumps rally last night proves they are screwed!

From the information gotten by the GOP last night, over 20% of the people inside and outside, were registered DEMOCRATS now supporting Trump, who either did NOT vote last cycle, or voted for Hillary.

But here is the amazing thing, and it was PROVEN by the numbers---------------->IF the exact same numbers came in 2020 that came in 2016, those changed and added VOTES WOULD FLIP NEW HAMPSHIRE-) And that is one rally count!

I am also here to tell you, expect Minn to go to the GOP, AND depending upon who the Democratic nominee is, Illinois is in play!

I don't know how much stronger a position I can put forth as evidence as of today. The Left is on a whole heap of trouble, Socialist, Communist/Marxist, and or welfare state. They may actually take a political bloodbath!

 

[Mac-7]

To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.

Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?

HOLY FUCK!
How many different ways can you frame “GIVE ME FREE SHIT”?
Dude look, we totally get it...you’re unable to pay your own way...FUCK stop embarrassing yourself.

Bulb...why do most red states have highest rates of welfare and food stamp recipients?
Dont blame it on brownies this time again.

You are not well informed

most welfare bums vote democrat no matter which state they live in

Hardly anyone can get welfare in the US.
Only women with dependent children can get it, and even then not for long.

Thats not true

the states have waivers that can keep the usual suspects on welfare indefinitely

plus the (un)Earned Income Tax Credit scam is huge in every state

 

[Dragonlady]

And you really do not give a shit about the poor either or the fact the U.S. Government can not even give our Veterans decent Healthcare and yet you believe the U.S. Government can run a massive Universal Healthcare!?!

Also if people believe we would get Medicare for All then you will have to carry supplemental Healthcare Insurance which would be provided by a private insurance agency like is done now, so you get taxed and still pay for private insurance...

Bullshit. The vets have the BEST health care in the USA. Just ask anyone who is being served by the VA. They have a very high approval rating.

But the VA is seriously underfunded, and doesn't have adequate staff or resources. It was never intended to deal with 18 years of continuous warfare.

How is it that the USA is the only country in the first world which cannot figure out how to effectively deliver healthcare for all, at a reasonable rate? Possibly because Republicans don't want these programs to be successful. They design your government programs poorly so that they're expensive, inefficient, and don't work as advertized.

Every other first world nation manages to take care of their people effectively and at a decent cost. Americans overpay for everything and get bad results. You're the ONLY first world country with "for profit" medicine which is actually REDUCING your life expectancy. That's the proof that your system doesn't work. The rest of the world is extending life expectancy. Healthy people aren't profitable.

You are lying again!

Please link where you got that bullshit story that VA has a high rating because I can link many that have hated the system!

Also Dragonlady you mentioned the GOP designed the system to fail while the System we have now was designed by Pelosi, Reid and Obama when it come to the ACA, so are you now claiming they are Republicans?

This remind me when you claimed Pelosi is highly respected and I schooled you with the fact she is hated within her own political party!

So when you come back at me by calling what I wrote is bullshit you better link shit to support your fucking opinion because the fact is you are known to lie!

Fact is many Veterans suffered during Obama years and isn't funny one of the biggest scandals with the VA happened during his time and you believe the U.S. Government can run a bigger program like Universal Healthcare?

Also as you pointed out Universal Healthcare would fail here seeing America is not a one party nation and let me be clear it is not like Canada either seeing it is a Republic of FIFTY STATES and the third largest population on the PLANET and how is China Healthcare?

How are the poor there treated seeing you want to compare something so let compare China taking care of their poor and do they have the same access to healthcare as the political elites and rich have in that country?

This debate gets old. Billy comes back 3 times a month and poses the question differently hoping for a different outcome, lol.

1. Who has the largest economy in the world?

2. Which countrys people on average have the most personal wealth of the large economy's?

3. Which country's people have the most upward mobility?

4. Which country are the rest of the worlds people fighting to break into?

.5. Which country's people have the largest living space as far as dwelling?

6. Which country's people possess the most personal transportation?

7. Which country's people have the most availability of different staples and abundance of food?

8. Which country's people have the most availability of goods?

9. Which country's people are the most overweight, meaning they can afford to eat on demand?

10. Which country has the most people flying all over the world to help other country's because they can.

AND FINALLY, is that country the most, or least Socialistic!

Now who wants to be a Socialist, and if so, why!

You convinced me I need to sneak into North Korea and live the Scoialist Mecca!!!

You know Bruce, these Leftists keep trying to ask the question 540 different ways to get the outcome they desire. Kinda like wording polls in certain ways to get the splits you want, lol.

They don't get that Americans are on to all their propaganda and bullsh**! And that is not me saying so, it is the results of the mood of the country. They can flail and spin all they want, but just the release of the numbers from Trumps rally last night proves they are screwed!

From the information gotten by the GOP last night, over 20% of the people inside and outside, were registered DEMOCRATS now supporting Trump, who either did NOT vote last cycle, or voted for Hillary.

But here is the amazing thing, and it was PROVEN by the numbers---------------->IF the exact same numbers came in 2020 that came in 2016, those changed and added VOTES WOULD FLIP NEW HAMPSHIRE-) And that is one rally count!

I am also here to tell you, expect Minn to go to the GOP, AND depending upon who the Democratic nominee is, Illinois is in play!

I don't know how much stronger a position I can put forth as evidence as of today. The Left is on a whole heap of trouble, Socialist, Communist/Marxist, and or welfare state. They may actually take a political bloodbath!

Bullshit. Those people were Trumpers, but here's the part you don't get. Many of them are there for the show, not because they believe in Trump. And many of them weren't from New Hampshire.

 

[imawhosure]

Bullshit. The vets have the BEST health care in the USA. Just ask anyone who is being served by the VA. They have a very high approval rating.

But the VA is seriously underfunded, and doesn't have adequate staff or resources. It was never intended to deal with 18 years of continuous warfare.

How is it that the USA is the only country in the first world which cannot figure out how to effectively deliver healthcare for all, at a reasonable rate? Possibly because Republicans don't want these programs to be successful. They design your government programs poorly so that they're expensive, inefficient, and don't work as advertized.

Every other first world nation manages to take care of their people effectively and at a decent cost. Americans overpay for everything and get bad results. You're the ONLY first world country with "for profit" medicine which is actually REDUCING your life expectancy. That's the proof that your system doesn't work. The rest of the world is extending life expectancy. Healthy people aren't profitable.

You are lying again!

Please link where you got that bullshit story that VA has a high rating because I can link many that have hated the system!

Also Dragonlady you mentioned the GOP designed the system to fail while the System we have now was designed by Pelosi, Reid and Obama when it come to the ACA, so are you now claiming they are Republicans?

This remind me when you claimed Pelosi is highly respected and I schooled you with the fact she is hated within her own political party!

So when you come back at me by calling what I wrote is bullshit you better link shit to support your fucking opinion because the fact is you are known to lie!

Fact is many Veterans suffered during Obama years and isn't funny one of the biggest scandals with the VA happened during his time and you believe the U.S. Government can run a bigger program like Universal Healthcare?

Also as you pointed out Universal Healthcare would fail here seeing America is not a one party nation and let me be clear it is not like Canada either seeing it is a Republic of FIFTY STATES and the third largest population on the PLANET and how is China Healthcare?

How are the poor there treated seeing you want to compare something so let compare China taking care of their poor and do they have the same access to healthcare as the political elites and rich have in that country?

This debate gets old. Billy comes back 3 times a month and poses the question differently hoping for a different outcome, lol.

1. Who has the largest economy in the world?

2. Which countrys people on average have the most personal wealth of the large economy's?

3. Which country's people have the most upward mobility?

4. Which country are the rest of the worlds people fighting to break into?

.5. Which country's people have the largest living space as far as dwelling?

6. Which country's people possess the most personal transportation?

7. Which country's people have the most availability of different staples and abundance of food?

8. Which country's people have the most availability of goods?

9. Which country's people are the most overweight, meaning they can afford to eat on demand?

10. Which country has the most people flying all over the world to help other country's because they can.

AND FINALLY, is that country the most, or least Socialistic!

Now who wants to be a Socialist, and if so, why!

You convinced me I need to sneak into North Korea and live the Scoialist Mecca!!!

You know Bruce, these Leftists keep trying to ask the question 540 different ways to get the outcome they desire. Kinda like wording polls in certain ways to get the splits you want, lol.

They don't get that Americans are on to all their propaganda and bullsh**! And that is not me saying so, it is the results of the mood of the country. They can flail and spin all they want, but just the release of the numbers from Trumps rally last night proves they are screwed!

From the information gotten by the GOP last night, over 20% of the people inside and outside, were registered DEMOCRATS now supporting Trump, who either did NOT vote last cycle, or voted for Hillary.

But here is the amazing thing, and it was PROVEN by the numbers---------------->IF the exact same numbers came in 2020 that came in 2016, those changed and added VOTES WOULD FLIP NEW HAMPSHIRE-) And that is one rally count!

I am also here to tell you, expect Minn to go to the GOP, AND depending upon who the Democratic nominee is, Illinois is in play!

I don't know how much stronger a position I can put forth as evidence as of today. The Left is on a whole heap of trouble, Socialist, Communist/Marxist, and or welfare state. They may actually take a political bloodbath!

Bullshit. Those people were Trumpers, but here's the part you don't get. Many of them are there for the show, not because they believe in Trump. And many of them weren't from New Hampshire.

Ummmmm, hello! The stats (STATISTICS, not POLLS) say they WERE, and who in the hell would wait in line for hrs to see any show in a cold rain for a person they didn't like in the 1st place, lol!

Very weak comeback, but you keep spinning. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile-)

 

[Crepitus]

To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. The founders had socialist ideas after all. They basically were leftists. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.

Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?

They have to be, they need a boogyman and boogymen don't provide services or bailouts.

Also, the vast majority of republican voters are uneducated and not really capable of thinking these things through.

Just look at the replies/excuses in this thread.

 

[BluesLegend]

To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. The founders had socialist ideas after all. They basically were leftists. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.

Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?

^^^ this clown tries to disguise Dem TAX INCREASES. Good luck with that

 

[imawhosure]

You are lying again!

Please link where you got that bullshit story that VA has a high rating because I can link many that have hated the system!

Also Dragonlady you mentioned the GOP designed the system to fail while the System we have now was designed by Pelosi, Reid and Obama when it come to the ACA, so are you now claiming they are Republicans?

This remind me when you claimed Pelosi is highly respected and I schooled you with the fact she is hated within her own political party!

So when you come back at me by calling what I wrote is bullshit you better link shit to support your fucking opinion because the fact is you are known to lie!

Fact is many Veterans suffered during Obama years and isn't funny one of the biggest scandals with the VA happened during his time and you believe the U.S. Government can run a bigger program like Universal Healthcare?

Also as you pointed out Universal Healthcare would fail here seeing America is not a one party nation and let me be clear it is not like Canada either seeing it is a Republic of FIFTY STATES and the third largest population on the PLANET and how is China Healthcare?

How are the poor there treated seeing you want to compare something so let compare China taking care of their poor and do they have the same access to healthcare as the political elites and rich have in that country?

This debate gets old. Billy comes back 3 times a month and poses the question differently hoping for a different outcome, lol.

1. Who has the largest economy in the world?

2. Which countrys people on average have the most personal wealth of the large economy's?

3. Which country's people have the most upward mobility?

4. Which country are the rest of the worlds people fighting to break into?

.5. Which country's people have the largest living space as far as dwelling?

6. Which country's people possess the most personal transportation?

7. Which country's people have the most availability of different staples and abundance of food?

8. Which country's people have the most availability of goods?

9. Which country's people are the most overweight, meaning they can afford to eat on demand?

10. Which country has the most people flying all over the world to help other country's because they can.

AND FINALLY, is that country the most, or least Socialistic!

Now who wants to be a Socialist, and if so, why!

You convinced me I need to sneak into North Korea and live the Scoialist Mecca!!!

You know Bruce, these Leftists keep trying to ask the question 540 different ways to get the outcome they desire. Kinda like wording polls in certain ways to get the splits you want, lol.

They don't get that Americans are on to all their propaganda and bullsh**! And that is not me saying so, it is the results of the mood of the country. They can flail and spin all they want, but just the release of the numbers from Trumps rally last night proves they are screwed!

From the information gotten by the GOP last night, over 20% of the people inside and outside, were registered DEMOCRATS now supporting Trump, who either did NOT vote last cycle, or voted for Hillary.

But here is the amazing thing, and it was PROVEN by the numbers---------------->IF the exact same numbers came in 2020 that came in 2016, those changed and added VOTES WOULD FLIP NEW HAMPSHIRE-) And that is one rally count!

I am also here to tell you, expect Minn to go to the GOP, AND depending upon who the Democratic nominee is, Illinois is in play!

I don't know how much stronger a position I can put forth as evidence as of today. The Left is on a whole heap of trouble, Socialist, Communist/Marxist, and or welfare state. They may actually take a political bloodbath!

Bullshit. Those people were Trumpers, but here's the part you don't get. Many of them are there for the show, not because they believe in Trump. And many of them weren't from New Hampshire.

Ummmmm, hello! The stats (STATISTICS, not POLLS) say they WERE, and who in the hell would wait in line for hrs to see any show in a cold rain for a person they didn't like in the 1st place, lol!

Very weak comeback, but you keep spinning. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile-)

And let me remind you Dragon, just in case you can't count-------------------->Trump had MORE Democrats show up for his rally, then Biden had Democrats show up at all, lololol.

Spin that away, lolololol.

Phony-e-baloney! Unless you are illiterate, you know EXACTLY what that tells you about 4/5ths of the Democratic field, and the position YOUR side is in-)

 

[Mac1958]

1. Who has the largest economy in the world?
2. Which countrys people on average have the most personal wealth of the large economy's?
3. Which country's people have the most upward mobility?
4. Which country are the rest of the worlds people fighting to break into?
5. Which country's people have the largest living space as far as dwelling?
6. Which country's people possess the most personal transportation?
7. Which country's people have the most availability of different staples and abundance of food?
8. Which country's people have the most availability of goods?
9. Which country's people are the most overweight, meaning they can afford to eat on demand?
10. Which country has the most people flying all over the world to help other country's because they can.
AND FINALLY, is that country the most, or least Socialistic!
Now who wants to be a Socialist, and if so, why!

Which country is the happiest?

This is the world's happiest country in 2019

For many people, it's not about how much stuff you have; it's about how content you are.

USA is 19th in that study, by the way.
.

 

[imawhosure]

You really are genuinly dumber than a sack of hammers if you think "socialism" is defined as "free shit". The best thing is that Republicans love their "free shit". Tax breaks for billionaires, free rides for corporations

And they've convinced the gullible that they shouldn't worry about free shit for corporations who get billions of dollars of tax breaks, and subsidies, but those poor inner city people are bleeding you white. That you believe these lies shows what fools Republican voters really are.

And you really do not give a shit about the poor either or the fact the U.S. Government can not even give our Veterans decent Healthcare and yet you believe the U.S. Government can run a massive Universal Healthcare!?!

Also if people believe we would get Medicare for All then you will have to carry supplemental Healthcare Insurance which would be provided by a private insurance agency like is done now, so you get taxed and still pay for private insurance...

Bullshit. The vets have the BEST health care in the USA. Just ask anyone who is being served by the VA. They have a very high approval rating.

But the VA is seriously underfunded, and doesn't have adequate staff or resources. It was never intended to deal with 18 years of continuous warfare.

How is it that the USA is the only country in the first world which cannot figure out how to effectively deliver healthcare for all, at a reasonable rate? Possibly because Republicans don't want these programs to be successful. They design your government programs poorly so that they're expensive, inefficient, and don't work as advertized.

Every other first world nation manages to take care of their people effectively and at a decent cost. Americans overpay for everything and get bad results. You're the ONLY first world country with "for profit" medicine which is actually REDUCING your life expectancy. That's the proof that your system doesn't work. The rest of the world is extending life expectancy. Healthy people aren't profitable.

You are lying again!

Please link where you got that bullshit story that VA has a high rating because I can link many that have hated the system!

Also Dragonlady you mentioned the GOP designed the system to fail while the System we have now was designed by Pelosi, Reid and Obama when it come to the ACA, so are you now claiming they are Republicans?

This remind me when you claimed Pelosi is highly respected and I schooled you with the fact she is hated within her own political party!

So when you come back at me by calling what I wrote is bullshit you better link shit to support your fucking opinion because the fact is you are known to lie!

Fact is many Veterans suffered during Obama years and isn't funny one of the biggest scandals with the VA happened during his time and you believe the U.S. Government can run a bigger program like Universal Healthcare?

Also as you pointed out Universal Healthcare would fail here seeing America is not a one party nation and let me be clear it is not like Canada either seeing it is a Republic of FIFTY STATES and the third largest population on the PLANET and how is China Healthcare?

How are the poor there treated seeing you want to compare something so let compare China taking care of their poor and do they have the same access to healthcare as the political elites and rich have in that country?

This debate gets old. Billy comes back 3 times a month and poses the question differently hoping for a different outcome, lol.

1. Who has the largest economy in the world?

2. Which countrys people on average have the most personal wealth of the large economy's?

3. Which country's people have the most upward mobility?

4. Which country are the rest of the worlds people fighting to break into?

.5. Which country's people have the largest living space as far as dwelling?

6. Which country's people possess the most personal transportation?

7. Which country's people have the most availability of different staples and abundance of food?

8. Which country's people have the most availability of goods?

9. Which country's people are the most overweight, meaning they can afford to eat on demand?

10. Which country has the most people flying all over the world to help other country's because they can.

AND FINALLY, is that country the most, or least Socialistic!

Now who wants to be a Socialist, and if so, why!

Which country is the happiest?

This is the world's happiest country in 2019

For many people, it's not about how much stuff you have; it's about how content you are.

USA is 19th in that study, by the way.
.

Happiest is NOT a measurable, it is SUBJECTIVE! Because a bunch of people are dancing around higher than kite proclaiming they are happy, happy, happy, doesn't say much except they are high, lol!

Hell, I betcha Lacooter is happy, happy, happy too if she partakes in the old Indian ritual of chewing on some peyote!

So what is your point!

 

[Mac1958]

And you really do not give a shit about the poor either or the fact the U.S. Government can not even give our Veterans decent Healthcare and yet you believe the U.S. Government can run a massive Universal Healthcare!?!

Also if people believe we would get Medicare for All then you will have to carry supplemental Healthcare Insurance which would be provided by a private insurance agency like is done now, so you get taxed and still pay for private insurance...

Bullshit. The vets have the BEST health care in the USA. Just ask anyone who is being served by the VA. They have a very high approval rating.

But the VA is seriously underfunded, and doesn't have adequate staff or resources. It was never intended to deal with 18 years of continuous warfare.

How is it that the USA is the only country in the first world which cannot figure out how to effectively deliver healthcare for all, at a reasonable rate? Possibly because Republicans don't want these programs to be successful. They design your government programs poorly so that they're expensive, inefficient, and don't work as advertized.

Every other first world nation manages to take care of their people effectively and at a decent cost. Americans overpay for everything and get bad results. You're the ONLY first world country with "for profit" medicine which is actually REDUCING your life expectancy. That's the proof that your system doesn't work. The rest of the world is extending life expectancy. Healthy people aren't profitable.

You are lying again!

Please link where you got that bullshit story that VA has a high rating because I can link many that have hated the system!

Also Dragonlady you mentioned the GOP designed the system to fail while the System we have now was designed by Pelosi, Reid and Obama when it come to the ACA, so are you now claiming they are Republicans?

This remind me when you claimed Pelosi is highly respected and I schooled you with the fact she is hated within her own political party!

So when you come back at me by calling what I wrote is bullshit you better link shit to support your fucking opinion because the fact is you are known to lie!

Fact is many Veterans suffered during Obama years and isn't funny one of the biggest scandals with the VA happened during his time and you believe the U.S. Government can run a bigger program like Universal Healthcare?

Also as you pointed out Universal Healthcare would fail here seeing America is not a one party nation and let me be clear it is not like Canada either seeing it is a Republic of FIFTY STATES and the third largest population on the PLANET and how is China Healthcare?

How are the poor there treated seeing you want to compare something so let compare China taking care of their poor and do they have the same access to healthcare as the political elites and rich have in that country?

This debate gets old. Billy comes back 3 times a month and poses the question differently hoping for a different outcome, lol.

1. Who has the largest economy in the world?

2. Which countrys people on average have the most personal wealth of the large economy's?

3. Which country's people have the most upward mobility?

4. Which country are the rest of the worlds people fighting to break into?

.5. Which country's people have the largest living space as far as dwelling?

6. Which country's people possess the most personal transportation?

7. Which country's people have the most availability of different staples and abundance of food?

8. Which country's people have the most availability of goods?

9. Which country's people are the most overweight, meaning they can afford to eat on demand?

10. Which country has the most people flying all over the world to help other country's because they can.

AND FINALLY, is that country the most, or least Socialistic!

Now who wants to be a Socialist, and if so, why!

Which country is the happiest?

This is the world's happiest country in 2019

For many people, it's not about how much stuff you have; it's about how content you are.

USA is 19th in that study, by the way.
.

Happiest is NOT a measurable, it is SUBJECTIVE! Because a bunch of people are dancing around higher than kite proclaiming they are happy, happy, happy, doesn't say much except they are high, lol!

You guys assume that YOUR priorities are EVERYONE'S priorities.

That just isn't true.
.

 

[imawhosure]

Bullshit. The vets have the BEST health care in the USA. Just ask anyone who is being served by the VA. They have a very high approval rating.

But the VA is seriously underfunded, and doesn't have adequate staff or resources. It was never intended to deal with 18 years of continuous warfare.

How is it that the USA is the only country in the first world which cannot figure out how to effectively deliver healthcare for all, at a reasonable rate? Possibly because Republicans don't want these programs to be successful. They design your government programs poorly so that they're expensive, inefficient, and don't work as advertized.

Every other first world nation manages to take care of their people effectively and at a decent cost. Americans overpay for everything and get bad results. You're the ONLY first world country with "for profit" medicine which is actually REDUCING your life expectancy. That's the proof that your system doesn't work. The rest of the world is extending life expectancy. Healthy people aren't profitable.

You are lying again!

Please link where you got that bullshit story that VA has a high rating because I can link many that have hated the system!

Also Dragonlady you mentioned the GOP designed the system to fail while the System we have now was designed by Pelosi, Reid and Obama when it come to the ACA, so are you now claiming they are Republicans?

This remind me when you claimed Pelosi is highly respected and I schooled you with the fact she is hated within her own political party!

So when you come back at me by calling what I wrote is bullshit you better link shit to support your fucking opinion because the fact is you are known to lie!

Fact is many Veterans suffered during Obama years and isn't funny one of the biggest scandals with the VA happened during his time and you believe the U.S. Government can run a bigger program like Universal Healthcare?

Also as you pointed out Universal Healthcare would fail here seeing America is not a one party nation and let me be clear it is not like Canada either seeing it is a Republic of FIFTY STATES and the third largest population on the PLANET and how is China Healthcare?

How are the poor there treated seeing you want to compare something so let compare China taking care of their poor and do they have the same access to healthcare as the political elites and rich have in that country?

This debate gets old. Billy comes back 3 times a month and poses the question differently hoping for a different outcome, lol.

1. Who has the largest economy in the world?

2. Which countrys people on average have the most personal wealth of the large economy's?

3. Which country's people have the most upward mobility?

4. Which country are the rest of the worlds people fighting to break into?

.5. Which country's people have the largest living space as far as dwelling?

6. Which country's people possess the most personal transportation?

7. Which country's people have the most availability of different staples and abundance of food?

8. Which country's people have the most availability of goods?

9. Which country's people are the most overweight, meaning they can afford to eat on demand?

10. Which country has the most people flying all over the world to help other country's because they can.

AND FINALLY, is that country the most, or least Socialistic!

Now who wants to be a Socialist, and if so, why!

Which country is the happiest?

This is the world's happiest country in 2019

For many people, it's not about how much stuff you have; it's about how content you are.

USA is 19th in that study, by the way.
.

Happiest is NOT a measurable, it is SUBJECTIVE! Because a bunch of people are dancing around higher than kite proclaiming they are happy, happy, happy, doesn't say much except they are high, lol!

You guys assume that YOUR priorities are EVERYONE'S priorities.

That just isn't true.
.

Is the pot now calling the kettle black?

 

[Mac1958]

You are lying again!

Please link where you got that bullshit story that VA has a high rating because I can link many that have hated the system!

Also Dragonlady you mentioned the GOP designed the system to fail while the System we have now was designed by Pelosi, Reid and Obama when it come to the ACA, so are you now claiming they are Republicans?

This remind me when you claimed Pelosi is highly respected and I schooled you with the fact she is hated within her own political party!

So when you come back at me by calling what I wrote is bullshit you better link shit to support your fucking opinion because the fact is you are known to lie!

Fact is many Veterans suffered during Obama years and isn't funny one of the biggest scandals with the VA happened during his time and you believe the U.S. Government can run a bigger program like Universal Healthcare?

Also as you pointed out Universal Healthcare would fail here seeing America is not a one party nation and let me be clear it is not like Canada either seeing it is a Republic of FIFTY STATES and the third largest population on the PLANET and how is China Healthcare?

How are the poor there treated seeing you want to compare something so let compare China taking care of their poor and do they have the same access to healthcare as the political elites and rich have in that country?

This debate gets old. Billy comes back 3 times a month and poses the question differently hoping for a different outcome, lol.

1. Who has the largest economy in the world?

2. Which countrys people on average have the most personal wealth of the large economy's?

3. Which country's people have the most upward mobility?

4. Which country are the rest of the worlds people fighting to break into?

.5. Which country's people have the largest living space as far as dwelling?

6. Which country's people possess the most personal transportation?

7. Which country's people have the most availability of different staples and abundance of food?

8. Which country's people have the most availability of goods?

9. Which country's people are the most overweight, meaning they can afford to eat on demand?

10. Which country has the most people flying all over the world to help other country's because they can.

AND FINALLY, is that country the most, or least Socialistic!

Now who wants to be a Socialist, and if so, why!

Which country is the happiest?

This is the world's happiest country in 2019

For many people, it's not about how much stuff you have; it's about how content you are.

USA is 19th in that study, by the way.
.

Happiest is NOT a measurable, it is SUBJECTIVE! Because a bunch of people are dancing around higher than kite proclaiming they are happy, happy, happy, doesn't say much except they are high, lol!

You guys assume that YOUR priorities are EVERYONE'S priorities.

That just isn't true.
.

Is the pot now calling the kettle black?

By my very statement about priorities, I prove that it is not.

We're all different, with different priorities. Which is my point.
.