I Don't Understand Why Democrats Keep Calling For Free Speech

[meaner gene]

they were Americans too and most of the deaths were from disease not bullets.

All of wars horsemen produce the causalities of war.

Remember: The longest Russian city siege in World War II was the Siege of Leningrad, which lasted for 872 days from September 8, 1941, to January 27, 1944. The German-enforced siege cut the city off from vital resources, leading to mass starvation, disease, and death, with estimations of over a million civilian deaths

Still counted as causalities of war.

 

[ChristisKing]

But this is OK with you;

MSN

www.msn.com

No. Why would it?

 

[meaner gene]

Confederates killed more "Americans" than the NAZI's did.

Let that sink in.

 

[Robert W]

I know you may love "alternative facts" in your alternative world of MAGA reality. But Donald J. Trump was indicted tried, and convicted of 34 felonies.
Trump was sentenced
And on appeal those convictions were upheld

Trump was convicted on all counts on May 30, 2024
he was sentenced to an unconditional discharge on January 10, 2025.

An unconditional discharge is a court sentence where a defendant is found guilty of an offense but does not face any punishment, such as jail time or probation. This means the case is closed, and while the conviction remains on the record, the individual is not subject to further penalties. fox5dc.com

 

[meaner gene]

You not only are ignoring what I have argued, I don't think you even read it. Do have a lovely evening though.

You said: The Founders never intended that 'free speech' be used to protect those those use speech in incite panic or violence or other destructive behavior or facilitate/promote lawlessness.

Like "To arms... to arms.... The British are coming."
Would be prohibited speech, since it incited violence and destruction.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

But that happens only when the government enforces the law evenly and equitable for everybody. So far as I know, nobody was prosecuted for threatening President Trump, MAGA, or anybody else on the right. But those on the right were persecuted, raided, indicted etc. for opposing/speaking out against government action.

That's why I said, CAN be prosecuted. The left will squeal like the pigs they are, but real threats and incitement needs to be prosecuted

 

[whitehall]

There is a difference between free speech and terrorist propaganda and we depend on the Supreme Court to make the distinction between shouting fire in a crowded theater and criticizing political figures. The Court made mistakes in the past when it authorized the 1917 "espionage Act" and FDR's notorious E.O. 9066 but hopefully the Court won't concern itself with Kimmel or "campus Mocking" unless it becomes a terrorist issue and involves illegal infiltrators.

 

[meaner gene]

An unconditional discharge is a court sentence where a defendant is found guilty of an offense but does not face any punishment, such as jail time or probation. This means the case is closed, and while the conviction remains on the record, the individual is not subject to further penalties. fox5dc.com

Trump remains a convicted felon. Which means he is not allowed to possess firearms for one. Trump is not allowed to serve on a jury. Trump is barred from certain professions.

the least felon-friendly, including Alaska, Alabama, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Massachusetts, Virginia, and Texas.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

the confederates were also Americans so one can say the Union killed more Americans than the Nazis also.

 

[Robert W]

Trump remains a convicted felon. Which means he is not allowed to possess firearms for one. Trump is not allowed to serve on a jury. Trump is barred from certain professions.

the least felon-friendly, including Alaska, Alabama, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Massachusetts, Virginia, and Texas.

Trump does not need firearms. He is guarded by the Secret service and also has the United stages military at his command.

 

[meaner gene]

the confederates were also Americans so one can say the Union killed more Americans than the Nazis also.

The confederates weren't part of the union army.
They were traitors to their country when they took up arms against it.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The confederates weren't part of the union army.
They were traitors to their country when they took up arms against it.

they were still Americans

 

[meaner gene]

they were still Americans

Confederate-Americans

They added the hyphen.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Why did you follow her saying you have an idea then laying out your personal ideas?

Seriously lol, you or she thinks I follow her? The kind of follow so that I can respond easily to her comments? Is that what she believes?

While she certainly has the right to put forth her half-baked, uneducated ideas, there is nothing that says that we have to seriously entertain them.

I wanted to see if she truly believes the things she says on this message board, because if she really feels like she is in danger then she should report it to the police. You don't agree?

And for the record, this started the minute she posted that propaganda video screaming "Whites Attacks, Black Racist". You all may have control of the White House, the House & Senate as well as the majority of this board but when people blatantly lie about others ESPECIALLY when they refer to Black people as "the usual suspects" and then start going down a list of falsehoods and white grievances then I don't understand why you're even surprised that there are those who will stand up and attempt to correct her misconceptions.

Afterall, we don't know who put up those posters but we DO KNOW for certain that the HBCUs had nothing to do with Charlie's Kirk death yet they were attacked immediately with bomb and other threats to the point where classes had to be cancelled.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

That is the expected response by blacks. Kirk never scheduled events at black colleges.

The most unfortunate aspect of the work that we do is that when we are successful even people such as yourself benefit from the protection of your civil rights.

It Kirk never scheduled events at Black colleges that's all good and well as far as I am concerned, so did this particular group of people insert themselves somewhere that they knew or should have known, they were not welcome. And in the manner than did. Those students had every right to be upset and not want them there.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I think you've never studied the founding documents.

No, I have not "studied" them but I do know that in the beginning they only allowed adult white males who owned real property (land) to participate in government matters.

The ability to impact the lives of people all across the country and world in an instant - no, I don't believe they envisioned such a thing or the richest man in the world rewarding people with a million dollars a pop for voting for the candidate that they wanted to place in the White House.

And bad SCOTUS decisions are exactly what got us to where we are today.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Weren’t you leaving the board?

She has left. And come back. Multiple times.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Why? As in, why do you believe this nonsense. Are blacks to emotional to be challenged? Too stupid to understand? Too little self control?

Well you just demonstrated your lack of knowledge of the topic under discussion.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The founding fathers actually built firewalls into the constitution to keep people like Trump from becoming president.

They feared someone like a P.T. Barnum using his fame and fortune, to beguile people into voting for them.
But the original constitution prevented this. Putting the state legislatures, and the electoral college, between the peoples choice for president, and the actual election of a president.

So from my perspective the way things work if you're someone like Trump, is you do what no one else has done, generally because it's unlawful. Then you make the people whom you've harmed take legal action against him to try to reassert their rights. Because doing this via court is a long and expensive process AND because SCOTUS is basically backing him screwing everyone over, we have him wreaking havoc & destruction unlike anything ever seen before.

As resilient as many people believe our country to be, what worries me is just like Ukraine and Gaza, all that these tyrants know how to do is destroy things, leaving others to rebuild after they've razed the place similar to after a conquest during a war.

 

[Robert W]

It Kirk never scheduled events at Black colleges that's all good and well as far as I am concerned, so did this particular group of people insert themselves somewhere that they knew or should have known, they were not welcome. And in the manner than did. Those students had every right to be upset and not want them there.

Charlie never intruded. Charlie came by invitation. No idea until he died, he was never welcomed by blacks.