I disagree with the Wisconsin Court, you shouldn't pay people to vote.

[TemplarKormac]

No one was paid to vote. Petition signers were entered for a CHANCE to win one of two $1M awards.

Two people were paid a million bucks each.

Great, it's a petition. Now, did people sign the petition because of their convictions, or did they sign it for a chance to win a million bucks?

This renders this whole thing to nothing but an old 90's style sweepstakes. There is no genuineness in any of it.

 

[okfine]

I'll say what I like.

You wouldn't be entirely opposed to it if it furthered the goals of your party.

I said you are disingenuous and it shows even more.

 

[justoffal]

I'll accept no lectures of genuineness from you, troll.

The polls are heavily in favor of the GOP guy anyway even before all the money got involved.
Not that polls can be trusted

 

[TemplarKormac]

This is a weird one because whoever wins the election is going to be on the court gets to decide whether or not the whole process was correct.
Can't see them voting against themselves.

Indeed. But, you have to respect the legal process. Sue in Wisconsin courts, when it reaches the Supreme Court there, and they inevitably reject the lawsuit, elevate it to a federal district court in that area. Then, you take it all the way to the Supreme Court.

 

[justoffal]

Two people were paid a million bucks each.

Great, it's a petition. Now, did people sign the petition because of their convictions, or did they sign it for a chance to vote?

This renders this whole thing to nothing but an old 90's style sweepstakes. There is no genuineness in any of it.

Yeah nobody broke any laws whatsoever.
If anything Musk is doing the state of favor by increasing the interest in voting.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I said you are disingenuous and it shows even more.

Examine your own character first before you psychoanalyze anyone. Okay? Okay.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Indeed.

But would you oppose it if a leftist centibillionaire did what Musk is doing?

Of course. I want citizens united overturned. That was the beginning of the end of our democracy.

 

[Concerned American]

Two people were paid a million bucks each.

Great, it's a petition. Now, did people sign the petition because of their convictions, or did they sign it for a chance to vote?

This renders this whole thing to nothing but an old 90's style sweepstakes. There is no genuineness in any of it.

There has been no vote. If people genuinely did not believe in the petition--they have every right to vote against it when it is put on the ballot. Simple. No one was paid to vote. Signing a petition is not a vote for any candidate, legislation or ballot measure.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Of course.

I see.

We'll see, when this invariably allows leftist billionaires to do the same.

 

[okfine]

Examine your own character first before you psychoanalyze anyone. Okay? Okay.

Face it fool, you want Musk to be the guy who paid off and donated millions for his candidate to win.

 

[TemplarKormac]

There has been no vote. If people genuinely did not believe in the petition--they have every right to vote against it when it is put on the ballot. Simple. No one was paid to vote. Signing a petition is not a vote for any candidate, legislation or ballot measure.

You underestimate the pull of money.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Face it fool, you want Musk to be the guy who paid off and donated millions for his candidate to win.

Actually I don't. I'd prefer if people acted on their on convictions, not because there's a chance for personal gain.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I see.

We'll see, when this invariably allows leftist billionaires to do the same.

And we will see when you run out and vote for all the same people that you don't care about this at all, really. Right?

I can play, too.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Yeah nobody broke any laws whatsoever.
If anything Musk is doing the state of favor by increasing the interest in voting.

Also, when the incentive goes away, so does the interest. That's basic psychology.

 

[Concerned American]

You underestimate the pull of money.

Not at all--there was NO payment for a vote. The signature on the petition entered that voter for a chance at winning some money. There was no underlying legal measure being voted on. Simply a petition to create one. If one was created, it would be voted on legally without any chance of being paid.

 

[TemplarKormac]

And we will see when you run out and vote for all the same people that you don't care about this at all, really. Right?

I can play, too.

You see, when Trump starts talking about ignoring the 22nd Amendment to run again, my limit has been reached.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

[justoffal]

Also, when the incentive goes away, so does the interest. That's basic psychology.

People begin to view voting as a financial opportunity instead of a civic duty

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You see, when Trump starts talking about ignoring the 22nd Amendment to run again, my limit has been reached.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Welp, have no fear. He will do it perfectly legally by running as Vice President, then acting as President. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if one of his drooling toadies runs for President, then resigns, after they win, passing the office to Trump.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Not at all--there was NO payment for a vote. The signature on the petition entered that voter for a chance at winning some money. There was no underlying legal measure being voted on. Simply a petition to create one. If one was created, it would be voted on legally without any chance of being paid.

Like I said, was this petition signed by people acting on their convictions or beliefs, or was this nothing more than people signing up for a prize?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Welp, have no fear. He will do it perfectly legally by running as Vice President, then acting as President.

I don't think you can do that. Unless you know something I don't?