Zone1 I believe that Pope Francis was the last "Pope" and Pope Leo is a Prophet who will set stage for Jesus.

[DennisPTate]

I would love to know with real certainty . But I do not .

However , I am smitten by the thought that Universe exists only as the Eternal Now and that so called Time Travel is literally impossible under any circumstances .

However , utilising the Event Stream is an entirely different matter ,and whilst no changes are possible for previous Events , it is possible to change the Future to some real degree .

This suggests, if true , that a Multiverse explanation of Universe is False and even a logical impossibility .

That is how I view matters presently , and I admit my views are shaped almost entirely by Clif High and separately from Dick Allgire's Remote Viewer Group findings .

Whare does that all get us ?
Brian Wilson thought that , " God Only Knows " and he may be nearest the Truth .

True....
but the gifted Rick Joyner hit me with a pretty shocking idea in a book that he wrote back in 1995, [before Marvel comics and movies made the idea of "Multiverse" a part of popular culture].

[Rick Joyner, The Final Quest, about ninety percent of the way down this page] :

"The Power of His Word

“You seek to know and walk in My power so that you can heal the sick and perform miracles, but you have not even begun to comprehend the power of My word. To resurrect all the dead who have ever lived on earth will not even cause Me to strain. I uphold all things by the power of My word. The creation exists because of My word, and it is held together by My word.

“Before the end, I will reveal My power on earth. Even so, the greatest power that I have ever revealed on the earth, or ever will, is still a very small demonstration of My power I do not reveal My power to cause men to believe in My power, but to cause men to believe in My love.

“If I had wanted to save the world with My power when I walked the earth, I could have moved mountains by pointing a finger Then all men would have bowed to Me, but not because they loved Me or loved the truth, but because they feared My power I do not want men to obey Me because they fear My power, but because they love Me and love the truth.

“If you do not know My love, then My power will corrupt you. I do not give you love so you can know My power, but I give you power so that you can know My love. The goal of your life must be love, not power Then I will give you power with which to love people. I will give you the power to heal the sick because you love them, and I love them, and I do not want them sick.

“So you must seek love first, and then faith. You cannot please Me without faith. But faith is not just the knowledge of My power, it is the knowledge of My love and the power of My love. Faith must first be exercised in order to receive more love. Seek faith to love more, and to do more with your love. Only when you seek the faith to love can I trust you with My power Faith works by love.

“My word is the power that upholds all things. To the degree that you believe My word is true, you can do all things. Those who really believe that My words are true, will also be true to their own words. It is My nature to be true, and the creation trusts My word because I am faithful to it.

“Those who are like Me are also true to their own words. Their word is sure, and their commitments are trustworthy. Their ‘yes’ means ‘yes,’ and their ‘no’ means ‘no.’ If your own words are not true, you will also begin to doubt My words, because deception is in your heart. If you are not faithful to your own words, it is because you do not really know Me. To have faith, you must be faithful. I have called you to walk by faith because I am faithful. It is My nature.

“That is why you will be judged because of the careless words you speak. To be careless is to care less. Words have power and those who are careless with words cannot be trusted with the power of My word. It is wisdom to be careful with your words, and to keep them as I do Mine.”​

The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner

The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner

64.71.77.248

If Pastor Rick Joyner was given a genuine visionary dream explaining the afterlife and if... it is true that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in His resurrected body has the power, [technological capability], to resurrect all of the dead who ever lived, then one possible understanding of that power is that Ezekiel chapter thirty seven is NOT limited to being a one time event but instead, the universe can Freeze Frame, [as former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava saw happen during his seven minute brush with death], and....... the amount of Ruach ha Kodesh, Holy Spirit that is poured out on all flesh could be doubled.... and then voila... a whole new time line could be spun off.

I actually argued with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus on this very possibility beginning just after Yom Kippur in 1990, [so I admit that I am biased]!

I felt that I was supposed to explain the trouble that I got myself into back then to an Orthodox Jewish Rabbi, so I did and Rabbi Hollander gave me permission to share our conversation with individuals or groups who I felt might be interested in assisting in all of this?

Yeshayahu Hollander
From:yeshol
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To:tate4pictoucentre
@ya
Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:12 PM

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Dear Mr. Tate,​

​

I read with interest all you wrote, and to understand more about you I did a search and see that you have written MP Peter Mackay regarding abortion. I congratulate you on every word in this letter, an excellent letter in content and form. ​

I started with this because it is relatively simple and straightforword. ​

​

The ideas you wrote about in the current letter are so much more commplex.​

There is no doubt that the Almighty has many means of delivering messages to people. There is no doubt that many people receive messages from the Almighty. ​

​

While it is not possible to discount other iterpretations of your dreams and changes of you thoughts, it is clear that you have a comprehensive world-picture, and that this letter is an expression of the important points you saw fit to write me. ​

​

​

Naturally, I am interested to learn more about your advocacy "that my nation assist The Temple Mount Faithful Community, People For A Bill to Build The Bet HaMikdash and The Sanhedrin in your efforts to control the Temple Mount and rebuild your Jerusalem Third Temple". Why do you thing that this advocacy will help you as a "minor Canadian politician" who is starting his campaign.​

​

Of course we appreciate your support and would like to help you in this - and for that matter in your efforts against abortion. According to the Holy Torah, the prohibition of abortion [except in extreme cases, as you mention] was one of the commands of God to Noah [Genesis 9,6, the KJV translation is not equivalent to the Jewish tradition (it really wasn't meant to be!)] According to our understanding, this means that killing a person who is still inside its mother is a capital crime. ​

​

Please send us some more elaboration of your ideas. ​

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Sincerely, ​

​

Shalom,​

​

Rabby Yeshayahu Hollander ​

​

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Dennis Tate <tate4pictoucentre​

@y> wrote:​

Shalom Rabbi Hollander: I've been participating on The Sanhedrin message board and I was urged to contact you directly. So far as I know I am probably the first minor Canadian politician who has advocated that my nation assist The Temple Mount Faithful Community, People For A Bill to Build The Bet HaMikdash and The Sanhedriin in your efforts to control the Temple Mount and rebuild your Jerusalem Third Temple. It is my firm belief that semi-reality and reality film series could play an important role in working out the fulfillment of every word spoken in the law and in the prophets. My dad, Robert Stewart Tate, passed away on January 1, 1990. His death came at the same time that I was being confronted with the implications of the near death experience accounts. I went through a theological crisis that I believe has relevance for your SanHedrin. "but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza'zel." (Leviticus 16:10) I had no problem with the positive near death experiences but those negative ones put me into a philosophical crisis unlike I had ever experienced before. I saw this verse in Leviticus as a possible loophole and I asked that the guilt of Azazel would be put on my head. I prayed and asked The G-d of Abraham if he had any use for a volunteer "goat for Azazel?" If so, then I wanted to submit my application for the job. Several unusual things did occur since that time that I feel indicates that my offer may well have been accepted. I would like to elaborate further on how I feel a volunteer goat for Azazel could perhaps be of use in the working out of latter day events in such a way that the death toll is kept to an absolute minimum. Although I am not certain exactly what a volunteer goat for Azazel should do I have seen a videotape in my head of myself signing currency units while my hand is bleeding. The blood that drips onto a particular part of those currency units, along with many examples of my signature serves to authenticate the validity of these specific currency units for a future in which they could turn out to be quite useful. I hereby offer to The Sanhedrin 22 billion Dennis Tate shekels or dollars, similar to CalgaryDollars.ca or the Ithaca Hour. Bill and Melinda Gates are planning on spending 24 billion US dollars in an effort to make this world a better place. I wish to compete with them. This 22 billion in a sense can be used as props in many reality films that tend to promote peace in the Middle East and the reestablishment of the law of Moshe even in foreign lands. It is my belief that the films that you are guided to produce and direct will greatly increase in value over the coming decades and centuries. Shalom and greetings from Nova Scotia.

 

[DennisPTate]

We have Prophets already. No, Leo will not be a prophet of God. He is the leader of a billion souls who are deceived by the continuance of the great apostasy after Paul and John were dead. Or at least, no longer human. John was transliterated to not taste death until the 2nd coming of Christ.

But are we not getting closer and closer and closer to the time when a "feeble Jew" will be comparable to King David, [Zechariah 12]?

Around that same time will we not be in a place where the "least Christian" will be comparable to John the Baptist, [in at least some ways]?

 

[hobelim]

But are we not getting closer and closer and closer to the time when a "feeble Jew" will be comparable to King David, [Zechariah 12]?

Around that same time will we not be in a place where the "least Christian" will be comparable to John the Baptist, [in at least some ways]?

Yes.

When the last trumpet sounds and Jesus emerges from the clouds that have obscured him from sight for millennia, every eye shall see him, meaning everyone on earth will understand what he meant by the nutty things he said and the "dead in Christ" will be the first to rise.

Two Christians will be whacking off in church. One will be taken, the other left behind. Two Muslims on their hands and knees farting in a Mosque. One will be taken, the other left behind. Two Jews dicking around over what to eat for dinner. Both of them will be taken.


"For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more easily will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree." Romans 11:24

 

[Cougarbear]

But are we not getting closer and closer and closer to the time when a "feeble Jew" will be comparable to King David, [Zechariah 12]?

Around that same time will we not be in a place where the "least Christian" will be comparable to John the Baptist, [in at least some ways]?

Leo is not a Prophet.. The KISS principle

 

[DennisPTate]

Yes.

When the last trumpet sounds and Jesus emerges from the clouds that have obscured him from sight for millennia, every eye shall see him, meaning everyone on earth will understand what he meant by the nutty things he said and the "dead in Christ" will be the first to rise.

Two Christians will be whacking off in church. One will be taken, the other left behind. Two Muslims on their hands and knees farting in a Mosque. One will be taken, the other left behind. Two Jews dicking around over what to eat for dinner. Both of them will be taken.


"For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more easily will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree." Romans 11:24

In my opinion....
former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava is probably more like the historical John the Baptist and Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus than just about any Christian leader?

www.AlonAnava.com/

2You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

John 4 | NKJV Bible | YouVersion

A Samaritan Woman Meets Her MessiahTherefore, when the Lord knew that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and #John 3:22, 26; 1 Cor. 1:17baptized more disciples than John (though Jesus Himself did

www.bible.com

 

[DennisPTate]

Leo is not a Prophet.. The KISS principle

You are probably technically correct so far....
but the request of Moses for all of us is going to be fulfilled.

KJ21
And Moses said unto him, “Enviest thou for my sake? Would God that all the Lord’S people were prophets, and that the Lord would put His Spirit upon them!” {Numbers 11:29]

 

[Cougarbear]

You are probably technically correct so far....
but the request of Moses for all of us is going to be fulfilled.

KJ21
And Moses said unto him, “Enviest thou for my sake? Would God that all the Lord’S people were prophets, and that the Lord would put His Spirit upon them!” {Numbers 11:29]

Amos 3:7, "Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets." He's not talking about you and I. He's talking about Abraham, Moses, Isaiah and so on. Now, can we receive revelation for our personal want and needs? Yes! And, even for our family. But, not you cannot receive revelation for my family. Sorry. Doesn't work that way. The information Adam knew did not help Noah build the ark he needed. The information Noah received from God didn't help Moses lead Israel out of Egypt. The knowledge Moses had didn't give John the Baptist the authority to baptize. And, all the prophets and apostles didn't have the knowledge Joseph Smith needed to restore the Gospel and Church to the earth in their fulness.

 

[hobelim]

In my opinion....
former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava is probably more like the historical John the Baptist and Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus than just about any Christian leader?

I would agree but thats not a very high bar to make. Everyone who ever renounced bullshit and excoriated the few religious and political elite in power whose unholy alliance perpetuates human carnage with their insatiable hunger for money power and fame flipping off the man while partying like it was 1969 would be more like the baptist or Jesus than Alon.

Remember, even after Jesus submitted to the baptism of John as a token of repentance for the forgiveness of sins and heaven opened up to him he didn't stop eating, drinking and partying with sinners and prostitutes and was always in bad company with bad characters.

Wherever Jesus went and excoriated hypocrites for their hypocrisy they were confounded.

What did Jesus tell his disciples when they asked how to find him when he returned?

Where the vultures gather, there lies the corpse.

 

[DennisPTate]

I would agree but thats not a very high bar to make. Everyone who ever renounced bullshit and excoriated the few religious and political elite in power whose unholy alliance perpetuates human carnage with their insatiable hunger for money power and fame flipping off the man while partying like it was 1969 would be more like the baptist or Jesus than Alon.

Remember, even after Jesus submitted to the baptism of John as a token of repentance for the forgiveness of sins and heaven opened up to him he didn't stop eating, drinking and partying with sinners and prostitutes and was always in bad company with bad characters.

Wherever Jesus went and excoriated hypocrites for their hypocrisy they were confounded.

What did Jesus tell his disciples when they asked how to find him when he returned?

Where the vultures gather, there lies the corpse.

But.. there are near death experiencers who have been shown that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus actually went to the lowest levels of Sheol for three days and three nights in order to pay off the spiritual debt of anybody who will accept his sacrifice on our behalf.

Today, Thursday April 2, is the First Day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread. In thirty one Current Era the first day of Unleavened Bread was also on a Thursday. I believe that this makes for a Sabbath - Saturday resurrection at sunset for Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus.

I made a mistake and put this discussion in the wrong forum....
but that can be good in some ways:

Thread 'A Wednesday crucifixion and Sabbath evening at sunset RESURRECTION?'

Mar 30, 2026

If I am still in error about all of this,
you have my apologies in advance, because I do not wish to deceive but here is
where I am now at on the topic of the time line for Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to have been
crucified, killed, went to "paradise" or "heaven" with the thief on the cross beside him,
and then when He went to hell - Sheol - the Grave, for seventy two hours/ three days and three nights and then exactly when he was Resurrected from the dead?


" I belonged to the Worldwide Church of God from 1972 to 1991 and I used to believe all that they taught on the State of the Dead, [then...

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[Near death experiencer Kevin Zadai] :

THE DEPTHS OF VISITATION AND PRAYER: THE STEPS JESUS WENT THROUGH IN HELL​

Jesus relinquished His authority, power, and His will over to the Father and the Holy Spirit. He commended His Spirit to them all as He descended into the pit. To fulfill all that was required by justice, He had to go further into hell than any man will ever have to go. He had to go to the depths of hell in order to make redemption complete. During those days in hell, He rehearsed Psalm 16 to Himself, believing that the Father would give the command for the Holy Spirit to raise Him to life again.

Christ’s journey into hell and resurrection has made my spirit a brand-new being (see 2 Cor. 5:17).

Jesus went through everything we go through so that we can have authority and victory in this life.

THE AGREEMENT​

Jesus had an agreement with the Holy Spirit and with the Father about His activities from the time that He was born until the time that He ascended on high.

Because Jesus fulfilled all righteousness, we are therefore able to have victory without having to master situations. Remember that Jesus went before us as our High Priest. He paved the way for us to be successful in everything. He did what He did in the earth realm, and it causes you to walk in such a visitation. During prayer, because of visitation you will see your prayers immediately answered. That is because you are walking in His authority, operating the way He did while He was here on the earth.
Excerpt from Praying from the Heavenly Realms Chapter 20: The Depths of Visitation and Prayer: The Steps Jesus Went Through in Hell
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The Depths of Visitation and Prayer: The Steps Jesus Went Through in Hell – Kevin Zadai

kevinzadai.com

All of this brings us to an interesting question.....
if Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was "Moshiach ben David and
Messiah the Passover Lamb" will there be some sort of
Yom Kippur event in our time period that would be like a
Latter Day Yom Kippur?

Why is the name "Azazel" in the original Hebrew of Leviticus chapter sixteen?

Is the Kingdom of Moshiach ben David being increased and increased and increased even into the realm of "Azazel?"

The Book of Enoch does talk about a seven thousand year plan to restore and save humans, but a ten thousand year plan to "Judge" the Watchers and their children and grandchildren?

Will even the fallen Watchers and the Nephilim, [their fallen children many of whom were "giants" be restored somehow?

The Book of Enoch, Chapters 1-60

Books of Enoch

reluctant-messenger.com

Chapter 1​

1The word of the blessing of Enoch, how he blessed the elect and the righteous, who were to exist in the time of trouble; rejecting all the wicked and ungodly. Enoch, a righteous man, who was (1) with God, answered and spoke, while his eyes were open, and while he saw a holy vision in the heavens. This the angels showed me.

(1) N.B. The italicized words supply a gap in the text.


2From them I heard all things, and understood what I saw; that which will not take place in this generation, but in a generation which is to succeed at a distant period, on account of the elect.


3Upon their account I spoke and conversed with him, who will go forth from his habitation, the Holy and Mighty One, the God of the world:


4Who will hereafter tread upon Mount Sinai; appear with his hosts; and be manifested in the strength of his power from heaven.


5All shall be afraid, and the Watchers be terrified.


6Great fear and trembling shall seize them, even to the ends of the earth. The lofty mountains shall be troubled, and the exalted hills depressed, melting like a honeycomb in the flame. The earth shall be immerged, and all things which are in it perish; while judgment shall come upon all, even upon all the righteous:


7But to them shall he give peace: he shall preserve the elect, and towards them exercise clemency.


8Then shall all belong to God; be happy and blessed; and the splendour of the Godhead shall illuminate them.

Leviticus 16:

6;“And Aaron shall offer the bull as a sin offering for himself, and shall make atonement for himself and for his house. 7;Then he shall take the two goats, and set them before the Lord at the door of the tent of meeting; 8;and Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats, one lot for the Lord and the other lot for Aza′zel. 9;And Aaron shall present the goat on which the lot fell for the Lord, and offer it as a sin offering; 10;but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza′zel shall be presented alive before the Lord to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza′zel.

Bible Gateway passage: Leviticus 16 - Revised Standard Version

The Day of Atonement - The LORD spoke to Moses, after the death of the two sons of Aaron, when they drew near before the LORD and died; and the LORD said to Moses, “Tell Aaron your brother not to come at all times into the holy place within the veil, before the mercy seat which is upon the ark...

www.biblegateway.com

 

[hobelim]

But.. there are near death experiencers who have been shown that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus actually went to the lowest levels of Sheol for three days and three nights in order to pay off the spiritual debt of anybody who will accept his sacrifice on our behalf.

The three days in Sheol alludes to the first thirty years of Jesus life, raised in an observant home practicing Pharisaic traditions that he called a whitewashed tomb.

Jesus repented for his sins and heaven opened up to him, then he ascended into heaven little by little day by day until he was "taken up", a euphemism for Jesus being crucified.

If heaven opened up to Jesus after his baptism then he was in Sheol since birth. 30 years.

There are two deaths and two resurrections. This is the first resurrection, from the death of false beliefs and degrading practices. The second resurrection is from the death of the body.

Jesus did not pay the debt for anyone else sins. He showed the only right way to eternal life.

Those who partake in the 1st resurrection cannot be harmed by the 2nd death.

 

[DennisPTate]

The three days in Sheol alludes to the first thirty years of Jesus life, raised in an observant home practicing Pharisaic traditions that he called a whitewashed tomb.

Jesus repented for his sins and heaven opened up to him, then he ascended into heaven day by day until he was "taken up", a euphemism for Jesus being crucified.

If heaven opened up to Jesus after his baptism then he was in Sheol since birth. 30 years.

There are two deaths and two resurrections. This is the first resurrection, from the death of false beliefs and degrading practices. The second resurrection is from the death of the body. Those who partake in the first resurrection cannot be harmed by the second death.

Wow!

I do have to admit that that is an interesting understanding of some of the hidden meaning in the life of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus!

My time in the Worldwide Church of God does give me some empathy for that analogy.

My guess is that near death experiencer John J. Davis is kind of like a modern "Solomon" in comparison to the average Christian or Messianic Jew?

www.JohnJDavisnde.com/

Wildflower Meadow​

Here’s the last part of my near-death experience. My guide took me to what I can only describe as an absolutely beautiful meadow. There were rolling hills, beautiful flowers, green grass. It was a perfect day.

And then my guide left. I thought I was standing there by myself, and then, all of a sudden, a man showed up in front of me. Nobody told me it was him; I just knew that it was Jesus. He was different from everyone else. I could see his hands, and I could see his feet. I could see what he was wearing. He had a white robe on with a golden sash around his waist, and he had gold-colored sandals that laced up his calves, but he was so bright I couldn’t make out his facial features. Jesus had so much energy and so much light that was pouring out of him.

He said something to me, and it is something I have tried to do my entire life since then. It was like my assignment somehow. Jesus said, “You must tell them there is no death.”

Right after he said those words, I immediately woke up back in the hospital room. I asked the surgeon what happened, and he said, “We lost you. You were gone for seven minutes.”

Ever since then, I’ve been doing what Jesus asked me to do. I’ve been telling people that something happens after we pass, and it’s something absolutely beautiful. There is so much hope and so much joy, which we forget about here because life can be very hard.

There are a lot of hard times in life, and we are not supposed to remember the other side. But when you see someone who has had these experiences, it gives you hope. There is a reason for all of this. It’s all real, and we live for eternity. There is really no end. When people cross over and leave us here, they are not gone from us—we will see them again.

Wildflower Meadow - John J. Davis Near-Death Experience

My guide took me to a wildflower meadow with beautiful wildflowers of every color. Suddenly a man showed up and I knew it was Jesus.

johnjdavisnde.com

 

[DennisPTate]

I would love to know with real certainty . But I do not .

However , I am smitten by the thought that Universe exists only as the Eternal Now and that so called Time Travel is literally impossible under any circumstances .

However , utilising the Event Stream is an entirely different matter ,and whilst no changes are possible for previous Events , it is possible to change the Future to some real degree .

This suggests, if true , that a Multiverse explanation of Universe is False and even a logical impossibility .

That is how I view matters presently , and I admit my views are shaped almost entirely by Clif High and separately from Dick Allgire's Remote Viewer Group findings .

Whare does that all get us ?
Brian Wilson thought that , " God Only Knows " and he may be nearest the Truth .

Chapter nineteen of this book by a near death experiencer is interesting to say the least. "Life is a series of threads".... each one is eternal.... to my thinking this implies "Multiverse?"

My Walk With Jesus audio | 44 Hours In Heaven

www.44hoursinheavenministries.org

 

[hobelim]

I do have to admit that that is an interesting understanding of some of the hidden meaning in the life of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus!

I'm sure that you heard about what happened to Jesus after the baptism.

He was led away by the Spirit into the wilderness for forty days and forty nights, which meant a long time, living among the wild beasts. This reveals to the intelligent that Jesus was living outside of the jurisdiction of Jewish law, the wilderness, living among the wild beasts, the Romans, presumably doing what Romans do in the wilderness.

This is why many exclaimed when people were saying that Jesus was the messiah, "We know this man is a sinner!" and they were right IF THE LAW IS TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY.. as taught in the Talmud, what Jesus called the traditions of men that rendered the purpose of the Law null and void but Jesus, by saying eat my flesh, taught that the words are figurative, the subjects hidden and not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used .

Jesus being tempted by the devil was probably some well intentioned rabbi family or friend saying to Jesus on the parapet of the temple, "Why are you wasting your life with all those losers? You are a good looking smart man, everyone loves you, you make beautiful furniture! You could have the world at your feet and make a fortune if you would listen to me and stop with all that crazy talk about right and wrong and good and evil." And Jesus said FUH Q.

And the tempter left him.

 

[hobelim]

My guess is that near death experiencer John J. Davis is kind of like a modern "Solomon" in comparison to the average Christian or Messianic Jew?

666 is the number of the beast, the number of a man. The only time in the entire Bible that number is used in reference to just one man is when describing Solomons stipend of 666 talents of gold (25 tons) taken from the temple treasury yearly, not to mention fines, taxes tolls and tributes fleeced from the the majority of the suffering "beguiled" population daily.

Over 3 billion dollars every year in todays value while everyone else was fighting for shekels.

The ten so called "lost tribes" weren't lost, they deliberately left after the Solomon fiasco, the insanity of temple worship, 666 talents of gold, 700 wives, 300 concubines - courts, judges, lawyers, doctors, temple police, etc., used to protect and perpetuate this corrupt system.

 

[ding]

I'm sure that you heard about what happened to Jesus after the baptism.

He was led away by the Spirit into the wilderness for forty days and forty nights, which meant a long time, living among the wild beasts. This reveals to the intelligent that Jesus was living outside of the jurisdiction of Jewish law, the wilderness, living among the wild beasts, the Romans, presumably doing what Romans do in the wilderness.

This is why many exclaimed when people were saying that Jesus was the messiah, "We know this man is a sinner!" and they were right IF THE LAW IS TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY.. as taught in the Talmud, what Jesus called the traditions of men that rendered the purpose of the Law null and void but Jesus, by saying eat my flesh, taught that the words are figurative, the subjects hidden and not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used .

Jesus being tempted by the devil was probably some well intentioned rabbi family or friend saying to Jesus on the parapet of the temple, "Why are you wasting your life with all those losers? You are a good looking smart man, everyone loves you, you make beautiful furniture! You could have the world at your feet and make a fortune if you would listen to me and stop with all that crazy talk about right and wrong and good and evil." And Jesus said FUH Q.

And the tempter left him.

The low quality of the arguments against Christianity demonstrates the high quality of Christianity itself. If the opposition is "unreasonable," it implies Christianity is reasonable.

 

[hobelim]

The low quality of the arguments against Christianity demonstrates the high quality of Christianity itself. If the opposition is "unreasonable," it implies Christianity is reasonable.

No evidence against it? Don't be silly. You brazenly defy the first command, openly desecrate the words of Jesus, (the Actual Body of Christ) bear false witness against and denigrate women, homosexuals, Jews, atheists, immigrants, drug users, the homeless, the poor, the disabled the elderly and everyone who isn't a hypocritical actor and lying fraud.

You are so righteous that you would advise someone who is DYING to accept the spawn of a Roman trinity, the Antichrist, as their god and savior. ON THE DAY OF THEIR DEATH.

What guy! You galumphing spineless golem perverted stillborn spawn of the jabberwocky.

And if you really want to know how I feel, all that you have to do is ask.

 

[ding]

No evidence against it? Don't be silly. You brazenly defy the first command, openly desecrate the words of Jesus, (the Actual Body of Christ) bear false witness against and denigrate women, homosexuals, Jews, atheists, immigrants, drug users, the homeless, the poor, the disabled the elderly and everyone who isn't a hypocritical actor and lying fraud.

You are so righteous that you would advise someone who is DYING to accept the spawn of a Roman trinity, the Antichrist, as their god and savior. ON THE DAY OF THEIR DEATH.

What guy! You galumphing spineless golem and perverse stillborn spawn of the jabberwocky.

And if you really want to know how I feel, all that you have to do is ask.

The low quality of the arguments against Christianity demonstrates the high quality of Christianity itself. If the opposition is "unreasonable," it implies Christianity is reasonable.

 

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The low quality of the arguments against Christianity demonstrates the high quality of Christianity itself. If the opposition is "unreasonable," it implies Christianity is reasonable.

You are absolutely correct Ding!

Way to go Brother Ding!

Post in thread 'Does my sarcasm DOOM me to a Purgatory or Hell realm in afterlife?'

Apr 12, 2026

Good for Howard. The Catholic Church has also mentioned that the state of our soul at the time of death is what will be judged.

Near death is not the same as death. It is, however, a wake-up call for many people.

You are absolutely correct.....
I am impressed by the Roman Catholic teachings on "Purgatory" as well as with the Latter day Saints teachings on there being HOPE even for the unsaved dead......

I am Messianic Jewish....
not Roman Catholic or Latter day Saint....
but I am encouraged by their teachings on what happens after death?!

My belief is that Pope Leo is an...

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