Zone1 I believe God is punishing the US

Again, a Catholic pushing this. The Mormons say the same about their church, as do the JWs. None of you understand "the Church"
The Church is where the spirit of God is.

It's many churches across the nation, and around the world.

It's also not some that call themselves such.
 
Mock the Holy Ghost and pay the price.
Man doesn't make the Law in a democracy or anywhere else. The law is the given Word of God. Men can only make the politic.
 
We have become a very materialistic society, & have lost the Christian charity we once more or less had. It's all about ME these days. There are good people in the US still, but I speak generally.

I think a good % of people watch porn. No wonder society is falling and can't get up. And Christians would rather go to a Joel Olsteen like "church" than go to the Church Christ Himself established on Earth.

I think God is fed up. I can't say I know God extremely well. He surprises me often. But I just keep getting the thought that He is punishing us.

Don't believe me? Look who controls things in this country. If you find out the details on THAT story... you will be thoroughly sickened, as those of us in the know are.

He is definitely withdrawing His blessings and benefits. Sadly, tragically, we deserve it.
 
He is definitely withdrawing His blessings and benefits. Sadly, tragically, we deserve it.
I don't see it so much as God withdrawing his blessings, but as the powerful slapping away God's blessings and for some time have been wolves, not shepherds, of the nation.
 
We have become a very materialistic society, & have lost the Christian charity we once more or less had. It's all about ME these days. There are good people in the US still, but I speak generally.

I think a good % of people watch porn. No wonder society is falling and can't get up. And Christians would rather go to a Joel Olsteen like "church" than go to the Church Christ Himself established on Earth.

I think God is fed up. I can't say I know God extremely well. He surprises me often. But I just keep getting the thought that He is punishing us.

Don't believe me? Look who controls things in this country. If you find out the details on THAT story... you will be thoroughly sickened, as those of us in the know are.
I don't agree or disagree but I do find your irrational and easily-falsified linking of basic morality to religion unsettling,

LEt me quote a pagan and St Paul
ST PAUL
All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts,

CICERO
t “there will not be one such law in Rome and another in Athens, one now and another in the future, but all peoples at all times will be embraced by a single and eternal unchangeable law.”

Perversion, racism,adultery, even folly (being stupid out of laziness) --- these are all known to be wrong by your conscience.
I am a Catholic but I do not allow people to act as if they are free of damnation just because they reject religion. That is FOLLY for sure.
What does a thief do to someone who steals from him? What does a murderer do when someone murders someone he loves?
 
*** YES.

*** This nation is being punished.

*** I do not know whether God exists, so maybe that's not the reason.

*** I DO know that we in 2023 are being punished for what those stupid colonists did in the fateful year of 1619.
 
*** YES.

*** This nation is being punished.

*** I do not know whether God exists, so maybe that's not the reason.

*** I DO know that we in 2023 are being punished for what those stupid colonists did in the fateful year of 1619.

You meant 1973 (Roe v Wade)

fixed it 4 ya

:)
 
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Finish the human race off, saving those who deserve salvation.

We've had ample opportunity to demonstrate worthiness.

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so it definitely seems. People seem to have had a VERY long time to figure out that, for example, abortion is murder. We see the photos of mutilated children lying dead in trash cans... we read about Post Abortion Syndrome, how abortion destroys women

and I could go on and on. But as I've noticed and said b4, isn't it "curious" that you never (or extremely rarely) hear of an elite dimrat becoming a Christian...

They are absolutely committed to EVIL
 
Your god is punishing you because im an atheist heathen? He doesnt sound all that cool, bro. If thats how it is, then maybe youre better off without him? :dunno:

How would you know?

doesn't look like you ever tried Him. But that's typical of a lot of liberals... Making summary judgments about all kinds of things w/o any serious investigation... so tiresome! That's why our country is a train wreck... people like that!
 
How would you know?

doesn't look like you ever tried Him. But that's typical of a lot of liberals... Making summary judgments about all kinds of things w/o any serious investigation... so tiresome! That's why our country is a train wreck... people like that!
Im a old school conservative who bleeds red white and blue, who just happens to be an atheist as well.
 
We've had rotten presidents and corrupt folks in charge before and survived and we will this time too.

I think people are people wherever you go and that certain things have always been true about us. Like being materialistic. Cave men probably stole other cavemen's stone wheels as soon as they were invented.

However- if what you say is indeed true, maybe a another flood wouldn't be that bad.
not going to happen bc God promised not to do the Flood again. But there is talk in Scripture of fire on Earth...

doesn't sound good for the God haters
 
Damn that Establishment Clause ... yeah, them Wars of Religion that swept back and forth across Europe at the time were sickening ... Christian murdering Christian over money ... sickening I say ...

We don't have that here in the United States ... isn't that a blessing? ... or do you want to go back to the bloodshed? ...
No one understands the Establishment Clause, which means, not surprisngly that the federal govt will not install a state church... It does NOT mean that religion will have absolutely NO part in govt..
 

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