Zone1 Hunt them to extinction.....

[justoffal]

The other thing with people from back then is that they likely had no understanding that it was even possible to hunt something to extinction. Secondly it's a luxury to worry about such things as well. Lions dont worry about hunting zebras to extinction because they need to eat. A lion would 100% kill the last zebra without thinking.

There has been no solid evidence offered to indicate that anything bad would happen to the prey species should their predators disappear. Polar bears make such a tiny impact on seal and whale numbers as to be totally insignificant. Same thing goes for lions and tigers. Hawks on the other hand have proven that the pigeon and nuisance bird species flourish to ridiculous numbers when they are hindered. Not so with land predators. Get rid of them.....they serve no useful purpose frankly.


JO

 

[Couchpotato]

There has been no solid evidence offered to indicate that anything bad would happen to the prey species should their predators disappear. Polar bears make such a tiny impact on seal and whale numbers as to be totally insignificant. Same thing goes for lions and tigers. Hawks on the other hand have proven that the pigeon and nuisance bird species flourish to ridiculous numbers when they are hindered. Not so with land predators. Get rid of them.....they serve no useful purpose frankly.


JO

That's not true Prey populations can crash because of the lack of predators. They breed themselves into a food shortage. Just because it's not an inconvenience to you doesnt mean there arent effects.

 

[justoffal]

That's not true Prey populations can crash because of the lack of predators. They breed themselves into a food shortage. Just because it's not an inconvenience to you doesnt mean there arent effects.

What I am saying is that Polar bears themselves do almost nothing to the seal and beluga whale populations.....Orca's and Great Whites take care of those two species just fine.
Should every last polar bear disappear tomorrow it would make no differenced whatsoever to the seal and whale populations. Hawks on the other hand......I have personally seen the effect on the pigeon population where I live over the past 40 years. Remove the birds of prey and the nuisance species flourish like bacterium.


JO

 

[Flopper]

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As will pumas, alligators, wolves, black bears, grizzlies, sharks, lions, tigers, leopards, crocodiles, hyenas, and pythons, etc...

 

[Flopper]

But if we can just save one life...

Have you ever considered what will happen to the human race if we kill off all the predictors that have killed humans? The prey of these predictors will increase unchecked creating a chain event that may well kill far more humans than the predators.

A polar bear will eat up to 2,000 lbs. of seals in one year. Without polar bears to control the seals' population, the number of seals will subsequently increase significantly, threatening the population of crustaceans and fish in the region, which is an important food source not only for seals, but also for other Arctic wildlife as well as local human populations.

When a top predator is removed from an ecosystem, a series of effects are felt throughout all the levels in a food web, as each level is regulated by the one above it. This is known as a trophic cascade.

 

[MarathonMike]

But Al Gore and Greta need the Polar Bears for heart wrenching pics about global warming!

 

[Missourian]

Have you ever considered what will happen to the human race if we kill off all the predictors that have killed humans? The prey of these predictors will increase unchecked creating a chain event that may well kill far more humans than the predators.

A polar bear will eat up to 2,000 lbs. of seals in one year. Without polar bears to control the seals' population, the number of seals will subsequently increase significantly, threatening the population of crustaceans and fish in the region, which is an important food source not only for seals, but also for other Arctic wildlife as well as local human populations.

When a top predator is removed from an ecosystem, a series of effects are felt throughout all the levels in a food web, as each level is regulated by the one above it. This is known as a trophic cascade.

I was being facetious. Need a sarcasm emoji. Making a gun grabber reference.

 

[Flopper]

What I am saying is that Polar bears themselves do almost nothing to the seal and beluga whale populations.....Orca's and Great Whites take care of those two species just fine.
Should every last polar bear disappear tomorrow it would make no differenced whatsoever to the seal and whale populations. Hawks on the other hand......I have personally seen the effect on the pigeon population where I live over the past 40 years. Remove the birds of prey and the nuisance species flourish like bacterium.


JO

Ring seals and Artic Bearing seals are the primary diet of polar bears. Polar Bears will eat an average of 50 seals a year. The estimates are there are about 4 million of these seals and 25,000 polar bears exist. The polar bears consume approximately 1.2 million seals a year. So without polar bears, the seal population would increase 30% and that growth would continue until it's food source limits it. The change would continue down the food chain and certainly would be significant.

The primary diet of Polar Bears are seals not Beluga Whales. In winter Polar Bears may attack them in winter but they not significant part of their diet.

 

[DudleySmith]

Polar bears make great rugs, and many many house shoes for the poor.

 

[San Souci]

The panda bear should have been extinct long ago and would have been if not for human intervention.

True. Pandas may be cute ,but they are not fit to survive. One reason is ,they are designed to be carnivores ,yet they eat fodder. And on any scale , the Panda is by far the stupidest breed of bear.

 

[DudleySmith]

That's not true Prey populations can crash because of the lack of predators. They breed themselves into a food shortage. Just because it's not an inconvenience to you doesnt mean there arent effects.

So they will die either way, only the cause of death changes.

 

[Couchpotato]

So they will die either way, only the cause of death changes.

No far more would die from lack of food. Predators can only kill so many, and the balance is struck between the 2. If you remove the predator the prey population grows unchecked until they outstrip the ability of the eco system to provide enough food to suppor the population and it crashes.

 

[DudleySmith]

No far more would die from lack of food. Predators can only kill so many, and the balance is struck between the 2. If you remove the predator the prey population grows unchecked until they outstrip the ability of the eco system to provide enough food to suppor the population and it crashes.

My point is they are all going to die, period. No need for polar bears or anything else, they will just die from a different cause. the 'ecosytem' arguments are misleading.

 

[justoffal]

Have you ever considered what will happen to the human race if we kill off all the predictors that have killed humans? The prey of these predictors will increase unchecked creating a chain event that may well kill far more humans than the predators.

A polar bear will eat up to 2,000 lbs. of seals in one year. Without polar bears to control the seals' population, the number of seals will subsequently increase significantly, threatening the population of crustaceans and fish in the region, which is an important food source not only for seals, but also for other Arctic wildlife as well as local human populations.

When a top predator is removed from an ecosystem, a series of effects are felt throughout all the levels in a food web, as each level is regulated by the one above it. This is known as a trophic cascade.

The seal population has already grown beyond the control of its natural predators. A Single seal can easily weigh 700 lbs. The polar bears do absolutely nothing to control the seal population. Great white sharks on the other hand eat them like popcorn.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Polar bears far from going extinct are thriving and have hit a population surplus higher than anything that was previously counted in the past three decades. While they've become the poster child for cute and cuddly they are actually very dangerous animals capable of killing and eating the biggest, strongest man alive quite effortlessly. If every single polar beer disappeared tomorrow there would be no impact to the environment one way or another. They're very unsuccessful hunters and usually make only one out of eight successful attempts. Their main food is seals and beluga whales. They do not do well hunting these animals and many polar bears actually starve to death without any human interference. In short it's really not a successful species. It is a very dangerous one though to human beings. Get rid of them all. There are scores of species of bears...they will not be missed and the world will be safer.

24-Year-Old Mother and 1-Year-Old Son Killed in Alaska Polar Bear Attack

An Alaskan mother and baby boy were leaving a school when a bear entered their remote village and mauled the pair at the front entrance of the building on Tuesday.

people.com

Jo

Global warming is merely pushing them south... where the humans are.... rather than increasing numbers.

 

[justoffal]

Global warming is merely pushing them south... where the humans are.... rather than increasing numbers.

All the more reason to get rid of them

 

[frigidweirdo]

All the more reason to get rid of them

Or maybe humans should co-exist.