Hungary Referendum: 95% NO 5% yes on following EU "migrant" quotas

[Eloy]

Hungary Referendum: EU Humiliated as 95 Percent Say NO to Migrant Quotas

I can't wait to see Hungary and France and Netherlands leave the EU.

I don't see Hungary leaving the EU just yet. They need the subsidies. But I can see this being a domino effect of the end of shengen. Which will lead to the fall of the EU.

Schengen is not working in the current circumstance of many refugees needing asylum at once but the European Union (EU) does not depend on being without some border controls for its existence. There are four countries not even in the European Union which share in the Schengen treaty (Iceland, Norway, Switzerland, and Lichtenstein)and there are two member states which are not in Schengen (Ireland and Britain). The existence if the EU does not depend on the Schengen treaty.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Congratulations to the people of Hungary for their courage in rejecting forced Muslim immigration that would have eventually turned their nation into an Islamic theocracy. Sadly, nations like Sweden are doomed to become Islamic because of the EU's open borders policy. The USA will also probably go the way of Sweden, unless the ignorant public wakes up and stops the migrants from entering and tosses out most who entered.

You are mistaken; the Hungarian electorate did not support the racist nationalist prime minister Viktor Orbán's divisive referendum regarding European Union (EU) quotas for refugees. The majority of Hungarian voters stayed away Orbán short of the 50% turn-out required to give the outcome any legal standing.

The Hungarian people received far more than they contributed to the EU in infrastructure investment and modernizing after decades of communist oppression. You can be assured that most Hungarians are glad to be in the EU.

The result would have been a the same if everybody has shown up. It was a non binding vote anyway.

"The referendum was non-binding, but became a symbolic litmus test for Orban’s pro-sovereignty, anti-migrant and anti-Islamist policies."
98% of Hungarians reject EU refugee quotas, but low turnout rules referendum invalid

As this states, Refugees NOT Welcome, I don't care about any of them, we have no obligation on our Continent to take even one of them in, they are trouble just like their Islamic Ancestors were trouble, leopards don't change their spots.

We only have an obligation to our fellow European brothers and sisters, within a few years the EU will have collapsed as we have it now, there will be two EU's, the EU Cucks nations who can't wait to have their nations full of Diversity and the Cultural Enrichment of savage and low IQ peoples.

Then the rest of us who are nations who want to protect our own and preserve and protect our Culture and Heritage and our Borders.

The EU Cucks nations within 20 to 30 years will look like a mix of Lebanon and The DR Congo.

The rest of us within 20 to 30 years will have survived and our Culture and Heritage to live on for another Millennia and beyond.

Islam Must Be Destroyed. It Is Not Too Big to Fail.

This happened a few miles south of Hungary. It should be the goal of all civilized nations:

BATTLE OF ZENTA (Serbia, SEPTEMBER ELEVENTH, 1697)

Civilization's Dead: 429
Muslime Dead: 30,000

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Congratulations to the people of Hungary for their courage in rejecting forced Muslim immigration that would have eventually turned their nation into an Islamic theocracy. Sadly, nations like Sweden are doomed to become Islamic because of the EU's open borders policy. The USA will also probably go the way of Sweden, unless the ignorant public wakes up and stops the migrants from entering and tosses out most who entered.

You are mistaken; the Hungarian electorate did not support the racist nationalist prime minister Viktor Orbán's divisive referendum regarding European Union (EU) quotas for refugees. The majority of Hungarian voters stayed away Orbán short of the 50% turn-out required to give the outcome any legal standing.

The Hungarian people received far more than they contributed to the EU in infrastructure investment and modernizing after decades of communist oppression. You can be assured that most Hungarians are glad to be in the EU.

The No vote was 98.3% at 44% turnout, if 6% more people would have voted No would have still won.

Leftists with NGOs freaks in tow are saying that the vote is invalid because it wasn't 50% turnout. So did the MINORITY Leftists win? Of course they didn't, Leftism is in the minority in Hungary, it's a Conservative nation going further to the Right.

So our great friend and European Patriot Viktor Orbán has declared victory and gave the press conference saying he's going to get Parliament to change the Constitution. Great news, lots of MINORITY Leftist bedwetting now.

He's going to introduce a measure this week, an amendment to the Hungarian Constitution which will make it ILLEGAL to accept ANY "poor refugees" in Hungary and he's going to win this vote.

Sorry Leftists, Hungary doesn't want the filth making Hungary into a crapheap.

I forgot I should have included the situation in the State Assembly in Budapest, there are 199 seats, this is how it is.

The Rightist parties are.

Fidesz who are Viktor Orbán's party, seats 114
KDNP who are in coalition with Fidesz, seats 17
Jobbik seats 24

The Leftist parties are.

MSZP who are Socialists, seats 29
LMP who are an environmentalist party, seats 5
DK seats 4
Együtt who are very Left-Wing, seats 3
PM who are another environmentalist party, seats 1
MLP who began as Centre-Right but now are Left of Centre, seats 1

So as I commented, Hungary isn't of the Leftist mindset and the amendment to the Hungarian Constitution will succeed this week, it needs two thirds to vote to agree and with the above Rightist party seats it will succeed.

The MINORITY Leftist party seats if they all attend for the vote, they can only achieve 43 votes combined.

Edited to add comment.

History is full of ifs. You wrote " if 6% more people would have voted No would have still won". But failure to get a 50% turnout means that the racist nationalists lost. Your use of the word "still" is inappropriate since they lost by virtue of a low turnout. Encouraged by the English Brussels-bashing with their Brexit, Viktor (aka Viktator) Orbán put a loaded question on the ballot paper: "Do you want the European Union to be able to prescribe the mandatory settlement of non-Hungarian citizens in Hungary even without the consent of parliament?" Orbán was counting on the electorate to do as the English had done and "send a message to Brussels".
Viktor Orbán and Huxit: Hungary may be the next to leave the European Union
He failed to learn the lesson that David Cameron discovered, namely, a referendum can go against a prime minister. Most opposition parties called for a boycott and this worked.

This is Off Topic for a moment, but do you like Bullfighting?

I'm a lifelong fan of Bullfighting, so I have before thought of having a thread about it, but I'm not sure how many others are fans of this Art, it's an Art it's not a Sport.

Have you read Hemingway's Death in the Afternoon?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Congratulations to the people of Hungary for their courage in rejecting forced Muslim immigration that would have eventually turned their nation into an Islamic theocracy. Sadly, nations like Sweden are doomed to become Islamic because of the EU's open borders policy. The USA will also probably go the way of Sweden, unless the ignorant public wakes up and stops the migrants from entering and tosses out most who entered.

You are mistaken; the Hungarian electorate did not support the racist nationalist prime minister Viktor Orbán's divisive referendum regarding European Union (EU) quotas for refugees. The majority of Hungarian voters stayed away Orbán short of the 50% turn-out required to give the outcome any legal standing.

The Hungarian people received far more than they contributed to the EU in infrastructure investment and modernizing after decades of communist oppression. You can be assured that most Hungarians are glad to be in the EU.

The No vote was 98.3% at 44% turnout, if 6% more people would have voted No would have still won.

Leftists with NGOs freaks in tow are saying that the vote is invalid because it wasn't 50% turnout. So did the MINORITY Leftists win? Of course they didn't, Leftism is in the minority in Hungary, it's a Conservative nation going further to the Right.

So our great friend and European Patriot Viktor Orbán has declared victory and gave the press conference saying he's going to get Parliament to change the Constitution. Great news, lots of MINORITY Leftist bedwetting now.

He's going to introduce a measure this week, an amendment to the Hungarian Constitution which will make it ILLEGAL to accept ANY "poor refugees" in Hungary and he's going to win this vote.

Sorry Leftists, Hungary doesn't want the filth making Hungary into a crapheap.

I forgot I should have included the situation in the State Assembly in Budapest, there are 199 seats, this is how it is.

The Rightist parties are.

Fidesz who are Viktor Orbán's party, seats 114
KDNP who are in coalition with Fidesz, seats 17
Jobbik seats 24

The Leftist parties are.

MSZP who are Socialists, seats 29
LMP who are an environmentalist party, seats 5
DK seats 4
Együtt who are very Left-Wing, seats 3
PM who are another environmentalist party, seats 1
MLP who began as Centre-Right but now are Left of Centre, seats 1

So as I commented, Hungary isn't of the Leftist mindset and the amendment to the Hungarian Constitution will succeed this week, it needs two thirds to vote to agree and with the above Rightist party seats it will succeed.

The MINORITY Leftist party seats if they all attend for the vote, they can only achieve 43 votes combined.

Edited to add comment.

History is full of ifs. You wrote " if 6% more people would have voted No would have still won". But failure to get a 50% turnout means that the racist nationalists lost. Your use of the word "still" is inappropriate since they lost by virtue of a low turnout. Encouraged by the English Brussels-bashing with their Brexit, Viktor (aka Viktator) Orbán put a loaded question on the ballot paper: "Do you want the European Union to be able to prescribe the mandatory settlement of non-Hungarian citizens in Hungary even without the consent of parliament?" Orbán was counting on the electorate to do as the English had done and "send a message to Brussels".
Viktor Orbán and Huxit: Hungary may be the next to leave the European Union
He failed to learn the lesson that David Cameron discovered, namely, a referendum can go against a prime minister. Most opposition parties called for a boycott and this worked.

This is Off Topic for a moment, but do you like Bullfighting?

I'm a lifelong fan of Bullfighting, so I have before thought of having a thread about it, but I'm not sure how many others are fans of this Art, it's an Art it's not a Sport.

Have you read Hemingway's Death in the Afternoon?

Yes and it's still one of my most treasured books, there are much newer books about Bullfighting, but Hemingway's is like The Sistine Chapel of Bullfighting books.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The No vote was 98.3% at 44% turnout, if 6% more people would have voted No would have still won.

Leftists with NGOs freaks in tow are saying that the vote is invalid because it wasn't 50% turnout. So did the MINORITY Leftists win? Of course they didn't, Leftism is in the minority in Hungary, it's a Conservative nation going further to the Right.

So our great friend and European Patriot Viktor Orbán has declared victory and gave the press conference saying he's going to get Parliament to change the Constitution. Great news, lots of MINORITY Leftist bedwetting now.

He's going to introduce a measure this week, an amendment to the Hungarian Constitution which will make it ILLEGAL to accept ANY "poor refugees" in Hungary and he's going to win this vote.

Sorry Leftists, Hungary doesn't want the filth making Hungary into a crapheap.

I forgot I should have included the situation in the State Assembly in Budapest, there are 199 seats, this is how it is.

The Rightist parties are.

Fidesz who are Viktor Orbán's party, seats 114
KDNP who are in coalition with Fidesz, seats 17
Jobbik seats 24

The Leftist parties are.

MSZP who are Socialists, seats 29
LMP who are an environmentalist party, seats 5
DK seats 4
Együtt who are very Left-Wing, seats 3
PM who are another environmentalist party, seats 1
MLP who began as Centre-Right but now are Left of Centre, seats 1

So as I commented, Hungary isn't of the Leftist mindset and the amendment to the Hungarian Constitution will succeed this week, it needs two thirds to vote to agree and with the above Rightist party seats it will succeed.

The MINORITY Leftist party seats if they all attend for the vote, they can only achieve 43 votes combined.

Edited to add comment.

History is full of ifs. You wrote " if 6% more people would have voted No would have still won". But failure to get a 50% turnout means that the racist nationalists lost. Your use of the word "still" is inappropriate since they lost by virtue of a low turnout. Encouraged by the English Brussels-bashing with their Brexit, Viktor (aka Viktator) Orbán put a loaded question on the ballot paper: "Do you want the European Union to be able to prescribe the mandatory settlement of non-Hungarian citizens in Hungary even without the consent of parliament?" Orbán was counting on the electorate to do as the English had done and "send a message to Brussels".
Viktor Orbán and Huxit: Hungary may be the next to leave the European Union
He failed to learn the lesson that David Cameron discovered, namely, a referendum can go against a prime minister. Most opposition parties called for a boycott and this worked.

This is Off Topic for a moment, but do you like Bullfighting?

I'm a lifelong fan of Bullfighting, so I have before thought of having a thread about it, but I'm not sure how many others are fans of this Art, it's an Art it's not a Sport.

Ahh...Lucy...Bullfighting is bloody cruelty Sport and art would be Bull Dancing.

Bullfighting is amazing, an amazing experience, it's the passion and the elegance of the moves and the spectacle of the Death Dance and there's also something very sensual about it, the atmosphere, the array of colours, the sweat and the blood.

It's bloody cruelty to me...there is no joy or dance for the animal, only pain and confusion and ultimately a senseless death. If poeple want to engage in bloodsports - let it be with other people, not innocent animals.

Vindictive Mutant Misfits

Why do you hate humans and their natural, healthy desires? Don't moralize to us as you try to cover up the fact that you don't belong.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

It's bloody cruelty to me...there is no joy or dance for the animal, only pain and confusion and ultimately a senseless death. If poeple want to engage in bloodsports - let it be with other people, not innocent animals.

The bulls are especially bred darling for the bullfights.

There's no difference between killing those bulls and killing a cow for food, isn't therefore killing animals for food cruelty, considering that humans don't have to eat meat to survive?

Yes, but we have laws about how they are killed - to make it humane. That's not the case with bulls in bull fighting. They ought to have bull dancing instead like the ancient Cretes.

I think if you experienced a Bullfight you'd change your mind, you'd be enthralled and captivated.

Bull dancing, a typical Hippy comment

I think I'd barf seeing an animal brutalized

Bull dancing is cool....and dangerous....more so than bull fighting....

He's got to be gay, look at him in the right hand picture, how gay is that

Olé, Lola!

If he falls on a horn, he can get himself transJennered!

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Congratulations to the people of Hungary for their courage in rejecting forced Muslim immigration that would have eventually turned their nation into an Islamic theocracy. Sadly, nations like Sweden are doomed to become Islamic because of the EU's open borders policy. The USA will also probably go the way of Sweden, unless the ignorant public wakes up and stops the migrants from entering and tosses out most who entered.

You are mistaken; the Hungarian electorate did not support the racist nationalist prime minister Viktor Orbán's divisive referendum regarding European Union (EU) quotas for refugees. The majority of Hungarian voters stayed away Orbán short of the 50% turn-out required to give the outcome any legal standing.

The Hungarian people received far more than they contributed to the EU in infrastructure investment and modernizing after decades of communist oppression. You can be assured that most Hungarians are glad to be in the EU.

The result would have been a the same if everybody has shown up. It was a non binding vote anyway.

"The referendum was non-binding, but became a symbolic litmus test for Orban’s pro-sovereignty, anti-migrant and anti-Islamist policies."
98% of Hungarians reject EU refugee quotas, but low turnout rules referendum invalid

As this states, Refugees NOT Welcome, I don't care about any of them, we have no obligation on our Continent to take even one of them in, they are trouble just like their Islamic Ancestors were trouble, leopards don't change their spots.

We only have an obligation to our fellow European brothers and sisters, within a few years the EU will have collapsed as we have it now, there will be two EU's, the EU Cucks nations who can't wait to have their nations full of Diversity and the Cultural Enrichment of savage and low IQ peoples.

Then the rest of us who are nations who want to protect our own and preserve and protect our Culture and Heritage and our Borders.

The EU Cucks nations within 20 to 30 years will look like a mix of Lebanon and The DR Congo.

The rest of us within 20 to 30 years will have survived and our Culture and Heritage to live on for another Millennia and beyond.

Islam Must Be Destroyed. It Is Not Too Big to Fail.

This happened a few miles south of Hungary. It should be the goal of all civilized nations:

BATTLE OF ZENTA (Serbia, SEPTEMBER ELEVENTH, 1697)

Civilization's Dead: 429
Muslime Dead: 30,000

As I commented yesterday, in Budapest today it's now been announced and to the delight of all European Christian Patriots and for the Leftists and their Muslim pets Prohibited means ILLEGAL.

"The change will "stipulate that the collective settlement of people in Hungary shall be prohibited"

And the below means any Invader has about 0.01% of a chance of being given permission to squat in Hungary and claim welfare provided by Hungarian taxpayers, so also no Hungarian women are going to be raped, no Hungarian children are going to be raped and no Hungarian goats are going to be raped.

"such settlement shall only be permitted on the basis of individual requests"


Hungary to amend constitution on migration

"The Hungarian government announced on Tuesday plans to amend the constitution "on four points" following a referendum to curb any future inflow of asylum seekers from other EU states. The change will "stipulate that the collective settlement of people in Hungary shall be prohibited; such settlement shall only be permitted on the basis of individual requests," prime minister Viktor Orban said."

Hungary to amend constitution on migration

Also as I commented yesterday this amendment to the Hungarian Constitution will pass without much effort, Viktor Orbán needs a two third majority in the State Assembly of 199 seats.

The Rightist parties and here's his two thirds majority, there's no way Jobbik are not going to vote anything but with Fidesz and the KDNP.

Fidesz who are Viktor Orbán's party, seats 114
KDNP who are in coalition with Fidesz, seats 17
Jobbik seats 24

The Leftist parties are in the minority and like most Leftists are losers.

MSZP who are Socialists, seats 29
LMP who are an environmentalist party, seats 5
DK seats 4
Együtt who are very Left-Wing, seats 3
PM who are another environmentalist party, seats 1
MLP who began as Centre-Right but now are Left of Centre, seats 1

Edited to add comment.

 

[StLucieBengal]

Hungary Referendum: EU Humiliated as 95 Percent Say NO to Migrant Quotas

I can't wait to see Hungary and France and Netherlands leave the EU.

I don't see Hungary leaving the EU just yet. They need the subsidies. But I can see this being a domino effect of the end of shengen. Which will lead to the fall of the EU.

Schengen is not working in the current circumstance of many refugees needing asylum at once but the European Union (EU) does not depend on being without some border controls for its existence. There are four countries not even in the European Union which share in the Schengen treaty (Iceland, Norway, Switzerland, and Lichtenstein)and there are two member states which are not in Schengen (Ireland and Britain). The existence if the EU does not depend on the Schengen treaty.

didnt say it was .... but free movement of people is paramount to the EU. To kill the EU you need to peel away the layers and busting up free movement is important to ending the EU

 

[boedicca]

The Hungarians are an eminently sensible people who have proper self esteem.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Congratulations to the people of Hungary for their courage in rejecting forced Muslim immigration that would have eventually turned their nation into an Islamic theocracy. Sadly, nations like Sweden are doomed to become Islamic because of the EU's open borders policy. The USA will also probably go the way of Sweden, unless the ignorant public wakes up and stops the migrants from entering and tosses out most who entered.

You are mistaken; the Hungarian electorate did not support the racist nationalist prime minister Viktor Orbán's divisive referendum regarding European Union (EU) quotas for refugees. The majority of Hungarian voters stayed away Orbán short of the 50% turn-out required to give the outcome any legal standing.

The Hungarian people received far more than they contributed to the EU in infrastructure investment and modernizing after decades of communist oppression. You can be assured that most Hungarians are glad to be in the EU.

The result would have been a the same if everybody has shown up. It was a non binding vote anyway.

"The referendum was non-binding, but became a symbolic litmus test for Orban’s pro-sovereignty, anti-migrant and anti-Islamist policies."
98% of Hungarians reject EU refugee quotas, but low turnout rules referendum invalid

As this states, Refugees NOT Welcome, I don't care about any of them, we have no obligation on our Continent to take even one of them in, they are trouble just like their Islamic Ancestors were trouble, leopards don't change their spots.

We only have an obligation to our fellow European brothers and sisters, within a few years the EU will have collapsed as we have it now, there will be two EU's, the EU Cucks nations who can't wait to have their nations full of Diversity and the Cultural Enrichment of savage and low IQ peoples.

Then the rest of us who are nations who want to protect our own and preserve and protect our Culture and Heritage and our Borders.

The EU Cucks nations within 20 to 30 years will look like a mix of Lebanon and The DR Congo.

The rest of us within 20 to 30 years will have survived and our Culture and Heritage to live on for another Millennia and beyond.

Islam Must Be Destroyed. It Is Not Too Big to Fail.

This happened a few miles south of Hungary. It should be the goal of all civilized nations:

BATTLE OF ZENTA (Serbia, SEPTEMBER ELEVENTH, 1697)

Civilization's Dead: 429
Muslime Dead: 30,000

My brother who is two years younger than me, his girlfriend is from Budapest, she is Hungarian, she's completing her Law Degree, she's also very beautiful, our Great-Grand Father who is 98 years-old has commented that if he was 70 years younger my brother would have the competition.

My brother's girlfriends family are in the majority of Patriotic Hungarians and they love Viktor Orbán, the Grand Mother has a huge framed picture that Viktor Orbán signed and it hangs on a wall in-between signed and framed pictures of The Blessed Pope Pius XII and The Blessed Pope John Paul II.

 

[defcon4]

Schengen is not working in the current circumstance of many refugees needing asylum at once but the European Union (EU) does not depend on being without some border controls for its existence. There are four countries not even in the European Union which share in the Schengen treaty (Iceland, Norway, Switzerland, and Lichtenstein)and there are two member states which are not in Schengen (Ireland and Britain). The existence if the EU does not depend on the Schengen treaty.

Needing asylum at once? Read below. They don't want asylum in Serbia, they say. If you are seeking asylum as a refugee how choosy can you get? Please tell me, is there a war in Pakistan? (Do not mention the skirmishes with India) Look at the "refugees" prime aged males for military service, why are they not fighting for their homes? Maybe the Muslim invasion of Europe is more of a priority?

"We will walk to border with Hungary," said Sadaqat Khan, a Pakistani in his 20s from Qetta. Most of the migrants seek sanctuary in the wealthy countries of Northern Europe. "We do not want Serbia," Khan said."
Belgrade refugees make a break for the Hungarian border

 

[Toro]

EU was originally a Washington project, an easy way to control whole Europe using their puppets in the EU parliament.

That's idiotic.

 

[Toro]

Schengen is not working in the current circumstance of many refugees needing asylum at once but the European Union (EU) does not depend on being without some border controls for its existence. There are four countries not even in the European Union which share in the Schengen treaty (Iceland, Norway, Switzerland, and Lichtenstein)and there are two member states which are not in Schengen (Ireland and Britain). The existence if the EU does not depend on the Schengen treaty.

Needing asylum at once? Read below. They don't want asylum in Serbia, they say. If you are seeking asylum as a refugee how choosy can you get? Please tell me, is there a war in Pakistan? (Do not mention the skirmishes with India) Look at the "refugees" prime aged males for military service, why are they not fighting for their homes? Maybe the Muslim invasion of Europe is more of a priority?

"We will walk to border with Hungary," said Sadaqat Khan, a Pakistani in his 20s from Qetta. Most of the migrants seek sanctuary in the wealthy countries of Northern Europe. "We do not want Serbia," Khan said."
Belgrade refugees make a break for the Hungarian border

Have you ever been to Serbia?

You'd sympathize with them if you have.

 

[defcon4]

Schengen is not working in the current circumstance of many refugees needing asylum at once but the European Union (EU) does not depend on being without some border controls for its existence. There are four countries not even in the European Union which share in the Schengen treaty (Iceland, Norway, Switzerland, and Lichtenstein)and there are two member states which are not in Schengen (Ireland and Britain). The existence if the EU does not depend on the Schengen treaty.

Needing asylum at once? Read below. They don't want asylum in Serbia, they say. If you are seeking asylum as a refugee how choosy can you get? Please tell me, is there a war in Pakistan? (Do not mention the skirmishes with India) Look at the "refugees" prime aged males for military service, why are they not fighting for their homes? Maybe the Muslim invasion of Europe is more of a priority?

"We will walk to border with Hungary," said Sadaqat Khan, a Pakistani in his 20s from Qetta. Most of the migrants seek sanctuary in the wealthy countries of Northern Europe. "We do not want Serbia," Khan said."
Belgrade refugees make a break for the Hungarian border

Have you ever been to Serbia?

You'd sympathize with them if you have.

I have been in Croatia when it belonged still to Yugoslavia. Same country at that time on the same level of development. Even if I haven't been there if you are a true "refugee" you are happy to find refuge anywhere you can. Those people are not refugees, they are paid a certain amount of money for migrating to Europe to destroy Western civilisation.

 

[defcon4]

Have you ever been to Serbia?

You'd sympathize with them if you have.

I forgot to tell you that coming from a shithole in Pakistan, Serbia is a huge upgrade. Beggars cannot be a choosers.

 

[Eloy]

Hungary Referendum: EU Humiliated as 95 Percent Say NO to Migrant Quotas

I can't wait to see Hungary and France and Netherlands leave the EU.

I don't see Hungary leaving the EU just yet. They need the subsidies. But I can see this being a domino effect of the end of shengen. Which will lead to the fall of the EU.

Schengen is not working in the current circumstance of many refugees needing asylum at once but the European Union (EU) does not depend on being without some border controls for its existence. There are four countries not even in the European Union which share in the Schengen treaty (Iceland, Norway, Switzerland, and Lichtenstein)and there are two member states which are not in Schengen (Ireland and Britain). The existence if the EU does not depend on the Schengen treaty.

didnt say it was .... but free movement of people is paramount to the EU. To kill the EU you need to peel away the layers and busting up free movement is important to ending the EU

Yes you did. You wrote that the "end of shengen. Which will lead to the fall of the EU" and I contradicted you by showing that you had the wrong understanding of Schengen.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Congratulations to the people of Hungary for their courage in rejecting forced Muslim immigration that would have eventually turned their nation into an Islamic theocracy. Sadly, nations like Sweden are doomed to become Islamic because of the EU's open borders policy. The USA will also probably go the way of Sweden, unless the ignorant public wakes up and stops the migrants from entering and tosses out most who entered.

You are mistaken; the Hungarian electorate did not support the racist nationalist prime minister Viktor Orbán's divisive referendum regarding European Union (EU) quotas for refugees. The majority of Hungarian voters stayed away Orbán short of the 50% turn-out required to give the outcome any legal standing.

The Hungarian people received far more than they contributed to the EU in infrastructure investment and modernizing after decades of communist oppression. You can be assured that most Hungarians are glad to be in the EU.

The result would have been a the same if everybody has shown up. It was a non binding vote anyway.

"The referendum was non-binding, but became a symbolic litmus test for Orban’s pro-sovereignty, anti-migrant and anti-Islamist policies."
98% of Hungarians reject EU refugee quotas, but low turnout rules referendum invalid

As this states, Refugees NOT Welcome, I don't care about any of them, we have no obligation on our Continent to take even one of them in, they are trouble just like their Islamic Ancestors were trouble, leopards don't change their spots.

We only have an obligation to our fellow European brothers and sisters, within a few years the EU will have collapsed as we have it now, there will be two EU's, the EU Cucks nations who can't wait to have their nations full of Diversity and the Cultural Enrichment of savage and low IQ peoples.

Then the rest of us who are nations who want to protect our own and preserve and protect our Culture and Heritage and our Borders.

The EU Cucks nations within 20 to 30 years will look like a mix of Lebanon and The DR Congo.

The rest of us within 20 to 30 years will have survived and our Culture and Heritage to live on for another Millennia and beyond.

Islam Must Be Destroyed. It Is Not Too Big to Fail.

This happened a few miles south of Hungary. It should be the goal of all civilized nations:

BATTLE OF ZENTA (Serbia, SEPTEMBER ELEVENTH, 1697)

Civilization's Dead: 429
Muslime Dead: 30,000

Freak living in the past.

 

[Eloy]

Schengen is not working in the current circumstance of many refugees needing asylum at once but the European Union (EU) does not depend on being without some border controls for its existence. There are four countries not even in the European Union which share in the Schengen treaty (Iceland, Norway, Switzerland, and Lichtenstein)and there are two member states which are not in Schengen (Ireland and Britain). The existence if the EU does not depend on the Schengen treaty.

Needing asylum at once? Read below. They don't want asylum in Serbia, they say. If you are seeking asylum as a refugee how choosy can you get? Please tell me, is there a war in Pakistan? (Do not mention the skirmishes with India) Look at the "refugees" prime aged males for military service, why are they not fighting for their homes? Maybe the Muslim invasion of Europe is more of a priority?

"We will walk to border with Hungary," said Sadaqat Khan, a Pakistani in his 20s from Qetta. Most of the migrants seek sanctuary in the wealthy countries of Northern Europe. "We do not want Serbia," Khan said."
Belgrade refugees make a break for the Hungarian border

Pakistan is a very dangerous place. I do not blame people from wanting to leave there. Many Pakistanis want to join family members in England.

 

[defcon4]

Schengen is not working in the current circumstance of many refugees needing asylum at once but the European Union (EU) does not depend on being without some border controls for its existence. There are four countries not even in the European Union which share in the Schengen treaty (Iceland, Norway, Switzerland, and Lichtenstein)and there are two member states which are not in Schengen (Ireland and Britain). The existence if the EU does not depend on the Schengen treaty.

Needing asylum at once? Read below. They don't want asylum in Serbia, they say. If you are seeking asylum as a refugee how choosy can you get? Please tell me, is there a war in Pakistan? (Do not mention the skirmishes with India) Look at the "refugees" prime aged males for military service, why are they not fighting for their homes? Maybe the Muslim invasion of Europe is more of a priority?

"We will walk to border with Hungary," said Sadaqat Khan, a Pakistani in his 20s from Qetta. Most of the migrants seek sanctuary in the wealthy countries of Northern Europe. "We do not want Serbia," Khan said."
Belgrade refugees make a break for the Hungarian border

Pakistan is a very dangerous place. I do not blame people from wanting to leave there. Many Pakistanis want to join family members in England.

Wanting to leave or being forced to leave are not the same. Where do you think they get the money from to travel through two continents for destroying Western civilisation? Selling the only goat they have won't cover the expenses even the food for the months of journey.

 

[Eloy]

Schengen is not working in the current circumstance of many refugees needing asylum at once but the European Union (EU) does not depend on being without some border controls for its existence. There are four countries not even in the European Union which share in the Schengen treaty (Iceland, Norway, Switzerland, and Lichtenstein)and there are two member states which are not in Schengen (Ireland and Britain). The existence if the EU does not depend on the Schengen treaty.

Needing asylum at once? Read below. They don't want asylum in Serbia, they say. If you are seeking asylum as a refugee how choosy can you get? Please tell me, is there a war in Pakistan? (Do not mention the skirmishes with India) Look at the "refugees" prime aged males for military service, why are they not fighting for their homes? Maybe the Muslim invasion of Europe is more of a priority?

"We will walk to border with Hungary," said Sadaqat Khan, a Pakistani in his 20s from Qetta. Most of the migrants seek sanctuary in the wealthy countries of Northern Europe. "We do not want Serbia," Khan said."
Belgrade refugees make a break for the Hungarian border

Pakistan is a very dangerous place. I do not blame people from wanting to leave there. Many Pakistanis want to join family members in England.

Wanting to leave or being forced to leave are not the same. Where do you think they get the money from to travel through two continents for destroying Western civilisation? Selling the only goat they have won't cover the expenses even the food for the months of journey.

Typically refugees want to leave a war zone. Few are forced out of a country.
Money-lending has been going on for millennia. Refugees often borrow beyond their means to pay back, getting their relatives into debt or arriving in Europe with a big debt to traffickers who then exploit their labor for years while they work in menial jobs in a European host country.