Huge forest fires and huge pollution

[watchingfromafar]

If your home is near a forest that could burn your home down; there is a solution-----

Have a sprinkler system installed along your roof top. When a fire approaches your home, activate the sprinkler system which will cover your roof with water preventing it from catching on fire.

Just a friendly suggestion

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[ReinyDays]

Welll ... the recommendation is to clear out all the trees and shrubs within 100 feet of your home ... and keep that area mowed, say 3 inches ... give yourself a defensive parameter ...

Use tile on your roof ... so it won't catch fire ... you may, or may not, have the water pressure or electric power in the middle of a forest fire ...

 

[theHawk]

Trees are made from carbon dioxide

You're going to need to re-take Biology in summer school this year.

Trees do take CO2, combine it with hydrogen to make sugars, and extra oxygen is released into the atmosphere. So yes, the vast majority of the wood’s mass is made from the CO2 in the air, although it was chemically converted into something else.

 

[Dick Foster]

California was covered in smoke in November 2019 from all the forest fires.

Now there are huge forest fires in Australia. Amazon/Brazil rain forest fires shocked the whole world in 2019.

All the pollution smoke/carbon dioxide from these huge forest fires, the CO2 levels on Earth now must be 10 times more after all the emission controls done by industries worldwide in past 5 years.

And that's nothing compared to a typical volcanic eruption.

 

[mamooth]

It's all pretty basic, so deniers fail at it.

Plants consume C12 in preference to C13. That goes for all plants, no matter what specific type of photosynthesis they use (C3, C4, CAM).

That means plant-based material has a lower C13/C12 ratio than the atmosphere does.

Fossil fuel is plant-based, so it shares that lower ratio.

When that fossil fuel is burned, it lowers the C13/C12 ratio in the atmosphere. We measure that ratio going down, so we know fossil fuels are causing it.

And it's not due to plant decay, because plant decay is matched by plant growth.

And no, nobody ever claimed the 13C isotope was unique to prehistoric plants. I have no idea where SSDD pulled that from. It's the first time I've heard anyone say it. Nor have I ever heard any human except SSDD claim that C3 plants no longer exist.

 

[mamooth]

There are less forest fires now than in 1900.
Wanna guess why?

Because agricultural burning is no longer done (as standard practice) in the USA.

That's it. That's the entire reason. Those presenting old data supposedly showing more fires are being dishonest by leaving that basic fact out.

And no, it's not because we need to rake the forests, and the Trump voters believe.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

There are less forest fires now than in 1900.
Wanna guess why?

Because agricultural burning is no longer done in the USA.

That's it. That's the entire reason. Those presenting old data supposedly showing more fires are being dishonest by leaving that basic fact out.

And no, it's not because we need to rake the forests, and the Trump voters believe.

Nooo...because we can put them out now.

 

[ReinyDays]

Plants consume C12 in preference to C13. That goes for all plants, no matter what specific type of photosynthesis they use (C3, C4, CAM).

Why is that? ... do you agree with the Young Earthers that carbon dating is seriously flawed and cannot be trusted? ...

 

[basquebromance]

an unstable erratic climate will lead to an unstable erractic world, my friends

 

[ReinyDays]

an unstable erratic climate will lead to an unstable erractic world, my friends

Weather is unstable and erratic, climate averages out these wild swings back and forth ... "100 year averages" and "erratic" is a paradox ... especially with only 140 years of data ...

Unstable erratic governments with nuclear weapons leads to an unstable erratic world ... climate don't give a shit ...

 

[elektra]

links, links, and links, as if it is not true if google dont link to it.

here are your links

 

[mamooth]

Why is that?

Differences in diffusion rates. C13, being slightly heavier, diffuses into plant tissue less quickly than C12.

... do you agree with the Young Earthers that carbon dating is seriously flawed and cannot be trusted? ...

Er, no. And carbon dating has nothing to do with measuring the C13/C12 ratio which demonstrates the fossil fuel origin of the new CO2, being that neither C12 or C13 is radioactive.

 

[Old Rocks]

California was covered in smoke in November 2019 from all the forest fires.

Now there are huge forest fires in Australia. Amazon/Brazil rain forest fires shocked the whole world in 2019.

All the pollution smoke/carbon dioxide from these huge forest fires, the CO2 levels on Earth now must be 10 times more after all the emission controls done by industries worldwide in past 5 years.

And that's nothing compared to a typical volcanic eruption.

According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the world’s volcanoes, both on land and undersea, generate about 200 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) annually, while our automotive and industrial activities cause some 24 billion tons of CO2 emissions every year worldwide. Despite the arguments to the contrary, the facts speak for themselves: Greenhouse gas emissions from volcanoes comprise less than one percent of those generated by today’s human endeavors.

Are Volcanoes or Humans Harder on the Atmosphere?

Does one major volcanic eruption generate more climate-altering gas than that produced by humans in their entire history?

www.scientificamerican.com

7.8 billion metric tons

Total carbon emissions from forest fires in 2019 weren't anomalously high compared with previous years' counts. They rose last year by 26%, to 7.8 billion metric tons, the highest since 2002, according to the Global Fire Emissions Database (GFED).

200 millions tons is significantly smaller than 7.8 billion tons.

 

[Old Rocks]

links, links, and links, as if it is not true if google dont link to it.

here are your linksView attachment 376277View attachment 376277

Well yes, specific statements do require backing up. But lying assholes really resent being reminded of that.

 

[ReinyDays]

Differences in diffusion rates. C13, being slightly heavier, diffuses into plant tissue less quickly than C12.

44 a.m.u. vs. 45 a.m.u. ... 2% is fairly trivial ... like saying women are smarter than men ...

 

[elektra]

links, links, and links, as if it is not true if google dont link to it.

here are your linksView attachment 376277View attachment 376277

Well yes, specific statements do require backing up. But lying assholes really resent being reminded of that.

oh, hi grandpa, you woke from your dementia stupor, care for some gruel?

 

[mamooth]

44 a.m.u. vs. 45 a.m.u. ... 2% is fairly trivial ...

A 2% difference is still easily measurable. And we measure it.

 

[whitehall]

Funny how the media never considers the likelyhood of sabotage.

 

[linux07]

 

[Real with True]

Somewhere on another thread someoe displayed a chart that showed that human created forests have a density of 300-900 trees per unit as compared with the 30-60 trees per same unit that the same trees naturally occupied before the humans replanted them. So think, theres that much more wood in the same space burning off that much more CO2 than if the same space burnt 130 years ago. So, in a way, although these fires are less intense than fires were before habitat management came along, more trees are burning numerically than before.