Hows that Sanctuary State worken for ya California?

[Thinker101]

Gustavo Perez Arriaga has been arrested for allegedly killing a CA police officer

Gustavo Perez Arriaga - Bing video

but according to conservatives the only thing that matters is the economy!

isn't that what you say about trump?

and caliifornia has the 5th or 7th best economy in the world!

so......

Not with like a 5 billion huge unfunded union pension bubble ready to burst..

They can't print money like the US government.

.

So what? The GOP are always blowing up pension funds, they love doing it...

So what? Quite the come back. Who the hell do you feel will be paying that bill? Which, by the way, was approved by good ole Jerry Brown in his first term many years ago. Fricken dumbass...you and Jerry Brown.

Of course it is important to remember that everything you know is garbage propaganda, super duper.

Is that right. You've got access to the internet, feel free to do some research. Fricken clown.

 

[Slade3200]

I don’t know. Probably the sanctuary or maybe the one furthest away from where he lives or maybe the one closest to where he lives. Who the hell knows

We all know because it's pretty much common sense.

One thing I do know is that you think you know a lot about things you have little to no experience with. A little humility and open mindedness would do you some good Ray

My open mindedness is for our people first, and everybody else second. When you support people coming here and taking our jobs, changing our language, killing our citizens, and burdening the taxpayers, that's looking out for them first.

We all got to this country because our ancestors took a chance in search for a better life. You lost sight of that and now lay claim to a land that you should be more grateful to be a part of

I'm very grateful for this land, that's why I want to protect it. We used to own slaves at one time too, does that mean we should still have slavery today because we did years ago?

We don't need new immigrants any longer. Years ago they were a benefit to us and us a benefit to them. Now we are just a benefit to them.

That’s bullshit. Whether we are talking about people like Elon Musk who is from Africa and now owns multiple top companies that innovate and employ thousands of US citizens here in America or people who are shutting down acres of their crops because they can’t get enough workers to harvest. There are needs and benefits that exist all over the place. If you don’t think US born and educated citizens can compete with poor non English speaking immigrants for jobs then you have very little faith In your fellow Americans.

 

[eagle1462010]

My open mindedness is for our people first, and everybody else second. When you support people coming here and taking our jobs, changing our language, killing our citizens, and burdening the taxpayers, that's looking out for them first.

We all got to this country because our ancestors took a chance in search for a better life. You lost sight of that and now lay claim to a land that you should be more grateful to be a part of

Over 200 million live in poverty to the South...............too many for this country to absorb........especially with all the safety nets that are costing us more money now ...........when we are already very deep in red with no end in sight..............Why should we hit the gas pedal on destroying ourselves............That is just simply stupid.

I would never want to see us hit the gas pedal on destroying ourselves. You’re silly to suggest any sane minded person would

Encourage more to come and that is exactly what we are doing..............

That’s not exactly what it’s doing. That’s your ignorant spin but not reality. I’m not encouraging anybody to come by the way. If people want to come then great. If people want to go then great. It’s not complicated.

LOL

If you want to come here.........GREAT...........ummm........make up your mind.........this is about the numbers and financial survival of the U.S.
That is going to screws us eventually and you know it...........illegals coming in aren't helping..........use the legal methods for entry or stay home.

 

[Slade3200]

We all got to this country because our ancestors took a chance in search for a better life. You lost sight of that and now lay claim to a land that you should be more grateful to be a part of

Over 200 million live in poverty to the South...............too many for this country to absorb........especially with all the safety nets that are costing us more money now ...........when we are already very deep in red with no end in sight..............Why should we hit the gas pedal on destroying ourselves............That is just simply stupid.

I would never want to see us hit the gas pedal on destroying ourselves. You’re silly to suggest any sane minded person would

Encourage more to come and that is exactly what we are doing..............

That’s not exactly what it’s doing. That’s your ignorant spin but not reality. I’m not encouraging anybody to come by the way. If people want to come then great. If people want to go then great. It’s not complicated.

LOL

If you want to come here.........GREAT...........ummm........make up your mind.........this is about the numbers and financial survival of the U.S.
That is going to screws us eventually and you know it...........illegals coming in aren't helping..........use the legal methods for entry or stay home.

I didnt say anything about people coming here illegally. What in my statement made you think that was my point?

 

[francoHFW]

but according to conservatives the only thing that matters is the economy!

isn't that what you say about trump?

and caliifornia has the 5th or 7th best economy in the world!

so......

Not with like a 5 billion huge unfunded union pension bubble ready to burst..

They can't print money like the US government.

.

So what? The GOP are always blowing up pension funds, they love doing it...

So what? Quite the come back. Who the hell do you feel will be paying that bill? Which, by the way, was approved by good ole Jerry Brown in his first term many years ago. Fricken dumbass...you and Jerry Brown.

Of course it is important to remember that everything you know is garbage propaganda, super duper.

Is that right. You've got access to the internet, feel free to do some research. Fricken clown.

I do that all the time. You ought to try it sometime, super duper. Read something.

Sorry about Democrats trying to help the middle class. I'm sure you enjoy everyone losing their pensions the last 35 years...

 

[Markle]

Really? Did I say that? Please paste the quote where I said that.... liar

Are these not your words?

I said that I don’t care if people come or go. If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in, registered and let our economy grow.

Yes those were my words... what you claimed were certainly not my words. You just proved you lied.
Are you telling us that we should absorb 138 MILLION PEOPLE? That's what you said!

Here, again, is what you said. "I said that I don’t care if people come or go. If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in, registered and let our economy grow."

You said, "If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in". I assigned a number to your rant and now you realize how crazy is your bleating.

Progressives are like that, they spew fantasy, pie in the sky, free for everyone goals without one thought as to the cost or other ramifications.

Thank you!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We all know because it's pretty much common sense.

One thing I do know is that you think you know a lot about things you have little to no experience with. A little humility and open mindedness would do you some good Ray

My open mindedness is for our people first, and everybody else second. When you support people coming here and taking our jobs, changing our language, killing our citizens, and burdening the taxpayers, that's looking out for them first.

We all got to this country because our ancestors took a chance in search for a better life. You lost sight of that and now lay claim to a land that you should be more grateful to be a part of

I'm very grateful for this land, that's why I want to protect it. We used to own slaves at one time too, does that mean we should still have slavery today because we did years ago?

We don't need new immigrants any longer. Years ago they were a benefit to us and us a benefit to them. Now we are just a benefit to them.

That’s bullshit. Whether we are talking about people like Elon Musk who is from Africa and now owns multiple top companies that innovate and employ thousands of US citizens here in America or people who are shutting down acres of their crops because they can’t get enough workers to harvest. There are needs and benefits that exist all over the place. If you don’t think US born and educated citizens can compete with poor non English speaking immigrants for jobs then you have very little faith In your fellow Americans.

Yes we can compete, and have always overcome obstacles. But we compete with each other--not the world. And when we compete with each other, wages increase and standards of living for AMERICANS improve.

You on the left look at the US as part of one big global society; an open door for anybody and everybody to come here whenever they can't control their society or government.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

My open mindedness is for our people first, and everybody else second. When you support people coming here and taking our jobs, changing our language, killing our citizens, and burdening the taxpayers, that's looking out for them first.

We all got to this country because our ancestors took a chance in search for a better life. You lost sight of that and now lay claim to a land that you should be more grateful to be a part of

Over 200 million live in poverty to the South...............too many for this country to absorb........especially with all the safety nets that are costing us more money now ...........when we are already very deep in red with no end in sight..............Why should we hit the gas pedal on destroying ourselves............That is just simply stupid.

I would never want to see us hit the gas pedal on destroying ourselves. You’re silly to suggest any sane minded person would

Encourage more to come and that is exactly what we are doing..............

That’s not exactly what it’s doing. That’s your ignorant spin but not reality. I’m not encouraging anybody to come by the way. If people want to come then great. If people want to go then great. It’s not complicated.

Do you have the same standards for your home? How about your property? How about your car?

 

[Clementine]

NEGATIVE
That’s pathetic, desperate and far reaching foolishness...There is no comparison there...the framers of our great Constitution gave us the right to bear arms thus creating a demand for gun makers to supply....Our founders never gave wetbacks a right to be here...Against the will of the people, the treasonous, nutless unAmerican pieces of shits in Mexifornia did however.
(this is an opportunity for you to use logic and show you can be reasonable....this is where you say “****, you’re right.”)

Ok buddy so when I have opposing views and want to modify our laws I’m unpatriotic and against law and our constitution but when you say you want to tweak the laws it’s all good. Have a little more awareness of your critiques and hypocrisy.

There really isn't anything wrong with our laws with the exceptions they are not stringent enough and not enforced very heavily.

We let in more people than anywhere on the earth to take advantage of what we offer our citizeThe ns.
We allow more foreigners to become citizens of this country than any other in the world.
We NEED to limit the amount of people so they don't ruin our economy, change our way of life, and time to assimilate if they are permanently residing here.

We don't need to be anymore gracious than we already are.

The Loop Holes are killing us on immigration..........and via court orders and the Flores Agreement on the family and holding a child 20 days...........ICE is now releasing families to avoid getting hit by the courts............

The loop holes have to be closed.............and the establishment will not allow it.............They refuse to change those laws because they want the flow to continue.

If the Republicans don't start showing their constituents results, another party just may be formed. If that's the case, the Democrats will have rule over the federal government forever.

They are changing the Demographics of the country for that already..........We don't fix this........they will import the voters to make sure they have power...........this is nothing new............

The establishment is both sides...........if a third party forms so be it.........people like me still wouldn't support the Dems.

I am Independent. I side with Repubs on national security and lowering taxes. Part of national security is a border that is actually a border. The Dems hate our constitution and want it shredded in favor of a socialist country, which they fully intend to rule. Not govern. Not serve. Not represent. Rule!! They need to get people here who don't give a rat's ass about this country and are willing to sell us out in favor of being taken care of. Of course, in the end, no one is taken care of and everyone suffers. Socialism does that every ******* time. No exceptions. Nothing new about it. They can call it what they want but it's all about total government control, no freedoms and no liberties.

They are indeed using the illegal immigrants and "refugees" to that end. Not enough citizens are willing to support their radical agenda but millions of ignorant people who are being promised the sun and moon are willing to support them. Once the leftists get full power, even illegally, we are done!

California is already becoming a wasteland. Just imagine the entire country following that lead, which is exactly what the left has in mind.

 

[francoHFW]

Ok buddy so when I have opposing views and want to modify our laws I’m unpatriotic and against law and our constitution but when you say you want to tweak the laws it’s all good. Have a little more awareness of your critiques and hypocrisy.

There really isn't anything wrong with our laws with the exceptions they are not stringent enough and not enforced very heavily.

We let in more people than anywhere on the earth to take advantage of what we offer our citizeThe ns.
We allow more foreigners to become citizens of this country than any other in the world.
We NEED to limit the amount of people so they don't ruin our economy, change our way of life, and time to assimilate if they are permanently residing here.

We don't need to be anymore gracious than we already are.

The Loop Holes are killing us on immigration..........and via court orders and the Flores Agreement on the family and holding a child 20 days...........ICE is now releasing families to avoid getting hit by the courts............

The loop holes have to be closed.............and the establishment will not allow it.............They refuse to change those laws because they want the flow to continue.

If the Republicans don't start showing their constituents results, another party just may be formed. If that's the case, the Democrats will have rule over the federal government forever.

They are changing the Demographics of the country for that already..........We don't fix this........they will import the voters to make sure they have power...........this is nothing new............

The establishment is both sides...........if a third party forms so be it.........people like me still wouldn't support the Dems.

I am Independent. I side with Repubs on national security and lowering taxes. Part of national security is a border that is actually a border. The Dems hate our constitution and want it shredded in favor of a socialist country, which they fully intend to rule. Not govern. Not serve. Not represent. Rule!! They need to get people here who don't give a rat's ass about this country and are willing to sell us out in favor of being taken care of. Of course, in the end, no one is taken care of and everyone suffers. Socialism does that every ******* time. No exceptions. Nothing new about it. They can call it what they want but it's all about total government control, no freedoms and no liberties.

They are indeed using the illegal immigrants and "refugees" to that end. Not enough citizens are willing to support their radical agenda but millions of ignorant people who are being promised the sun and moon are willing to support them. Once the leftists get full power, even illegally, we are done!

One thing I do know is that you think you know a lot about things you have little to no experience with. A little humility and open mindedness would do you some good Ray

My open mindedness is for our people first, and everybody else second. When you support people coming here and taking our jobs, changing our language, killing our citizens, and burdening the taxpayers, that's looking out for them first.

We all got to this country because our ancestors took a chance in search for a better life. You lost sight of that and now lay claim to a land that you should be more grateful to be a part of

I'm very grateful for this land, that's why I want to protect it. We used to own slaves at one time too, does that mean we should still have slavery today because we did years ago?

We don't need new immigrants any longer. Years ago they were a benefit to us and us a benefit to them. Now we are just a benefit to them.

That’s bullshit. Whether we are talking about people like Elon Musk who is from Africa and now owns multiple top companies that innovate and employ thousands of US citizens here in America or people who are shutting down acres of their crops because they can’t get enough workers to harvest. There are needs and benefits that exist all over the place. If you don’t think US born and educated citizens can compete with poor non English speaking immigrants for jobs then you have very little faith In your fellow Americans.

Yes we can compete, and have always overcome obstacles. But we compete with each other--not the world. And when we compete with each other, wages increase and standards of living for AMERICANS improve.

You on the left look at the US as part of one big global society; an open door for anybody and everybody to come here whenever they can't control their society or government.

That is not true. Slade is on his own there. Pass the goddamn ID card and end this crap.

 

[francoHFW]

Ok buddy so when I have opposing views and want to modify our laws I’m unpatriotic and against law and our constitution but when you say you want to tweak the laws it’s all good. Have a little more awareness of your critiques and hypocrisy.

There really isn't anything wrong with our laws with the exceptions they are not stringent enough and not enforced very heavily.

We let in more people than anywhere on the earth to take advantage of what we offer our citizeThe ns.
We allow more foreigners to become citizens of this country than any other in the world.
We NEED to limit the amount of people so they don't ruin our economy, change our way of life, and time to assimilate if they are permanently residing here.

We don't need to be anymore gracious than we already are.

The Loop Holes are killing us on immigration..........and via court orders and the Flores Agreement on the family and holding a child 20 days...........ICE is now releasing families to avoid getting hit by the courts............

The loop holes have to be closed.............and the establishment will not allow it.............They refuse to change those laws because they want the flow to continue.

If the Republicans don't start showing their constituents results, another party just may be formed. If that's the case, the Democrats will have rule over the federal government forever.

They are changing the Demographics of the country for that already..........We don't fix this........they will import the voters to make sure they have power...........this is nothing new............

The establishment is both sides...........if a third party forms so be it.........people like me still wouldn't support the Dems.

I am Independent. I side with Repubs on national security and lowering taxes. Part of national security is a border that is actually a border. The Dems hate our constitution and want it shredded in favor of a socialist country, which they fully intend to rule. Not govern. Not serve. Not represent. Rule!! They need to get people here who don't give a rat's ass about this country and are willing to sell us out in favor of being taken care of. Of course, in the end, no one is taken care of and everyone suffers. Socialism does that every ******* time. No exceptions. Nothing new about it. They can call it what they want but it's all about total government control, no freedoms and no liberties.

They are indeed using the illegal immigrants and "refugees" to that end. Not enough citizens are willing to support their radical agenda but millions of ignorant people who are being promised the sun and moon are willing to support them. Once the leftists get full power, even illegally, we are done!

California is already becoming a wasteland. Just imagine the entire country following that lead, which is exactly what the left has in mind.

Actually, super duper, thanks God for the Constitution stopping you right wing idiots. Pass the Democratic comprehensive immigration bill with an ID card that would end this GOP scam mess now.

 

[Slade3200]

Really? Did I say that? Please paste the quote where I said that.... liar

Are these not your words?

I said that I don’t care if people come or go. If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in, registered and let our economy grow.

Yes those were my words... what you claimed were certainly not my words. You just proved you lied.
Are you telling us that we should absorb 138 MILLION PEOPLE? That's what you said!

Here, again, is what you said. "I said that I don’t care if people come or go. If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in, registered and let our economy grow."

You said, "If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in". I assigned a number to your rant and now you realize how crazy is your bleating.

Progressives are like that, they spew fantasy, pie in the sky, free for everyone goals without one thought as to the cost or other ramifications.

Thank you!

Why are you thanking me? You are fighting a fictitious battle. If you think I’m supporting bringing a billion people over here then you aren’t really listening to what I’m saying. Of course there needs to be limitations. We need to improve our system to screen people better, provide asylum better, to provide work status quicker and better and to track people with visas better. I’m not saying open borders no system. I’m saying better system, less people sneaking over here and hiding in the shadows. If you would listen and ask questions instead of knee jerk reactions you might understand that.

 

[Thinker101]

Really? Did I say that? Please paste the quote where I said that.... liar

Are these not your words?

I said that I don’t care if people come or go. If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in, registered and let our economy grow.

Yes those were my words... what you claimed were certainly not my words. You just proved you lied.
Are you telling us that we should absorb 138 MILLION PEOPLE? That's what you said!

Here, again, is what you said. "I said that I don’t care if people come or go. If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in, registered and let our economy grow."

You said, "If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in". I assigned a number to your rant and now you realize how crazy is your bleating.

Progressives are like that, they spew fantasy, pie in the sky, free for everyone goals without one thought as to the cost or other ramifications.

Thank you!

Why are you thanking me? You are fighting a fictitious battle. If you think I’m supporting bringing a billion people over here then you aren’t really listening to what I’m saying. Of course there needs to be limitations. We need to improve our system to screen people better, provide asylum better, to provide work status quicker and better and to track people with visas better. I’m not saying open borders no system. I’m saying better system, less people sneaking over here and hiding in the shadows. If you would listen and ask questions instead of knee jerk reactions you might understand that.

So then you're for a wall?

 

[Slade3200]

We all got to this country because our ancestors took a chance in search for a better life. You lost sight of that and now lay claim to a land that you should be more grateful to be a part of

Over 200 million live in poverty to the South...............too many for this country to absorb........especially with all the safety nets that are costing us more money now ...........when we are already very deep in red with no end in sight..............Why should we hit the gas pedal on destroying ourselves............That is just simply stupid.

I would never want to see us hit the gas pedal on destroying ourselves. You’re silly to suggest any sane minded person would

Encourage more to come and that is exactly what we are doing..............

That’s not exactly what it’s doing. That’s your ignorant spin but not reality. I’m not encouraging anybody to come by the way. If people want to come then great. If people want to go then great. It’s not complicated.

Do you have the same standards for your home? How about your property? How about your car?

I view my private property different than my community and country. I believe people from anywhere in the world should have a shot of achieving the American dream through hard work just like our ancestors did. That’s what America represents IMO. Not a bunch of entitled pricks who want to close the doors and lift the middle finger to the rest of the world

 

[Slade3200]

Really? Did I say that? Please paste the quote where I said that.... liar

Are these not your words?

I said that I don’t care if people come or go. If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in, registered and let our economy grow.

Yes those were my words... what you claimed were certainly not my words. You just proved you lied.
Are you telling us that we should absorb 138 MILLION PEOPLE? That's what you said!

Here, again, is what you said. "I said that I don’t care if people come or go. If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in, registered and let our economy grow."

You said, "If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in". I assigned a number to your rant and now you realize how crazy is your bleating.

Progressives are like that, they spew fantasy, pie in the sky, free for everyone goals without one thought as to the cost or other ramifications.

Thank you!

Why are you thanking me? You are fighting a fictitious battle. If you think I’m supporting bringing a billion people over here then you aren’t really listening to what I’m saying. Of course there needs to be limitations. We need to improve our system to screen people better, provide asylum better, to provide work status quicker and better and to track people with visas better. I’m not saying open borders no system. I’m saying better system, less people sneaking over here and hiding in the shadows. If you would listen and ask questions instead of knee jerk reactions you might understand that.

So then you're for a wall?

I’m for funding walls, fencing and whatever else homeland security needs to keep our border secure. I’m not supportive of the marketing campaign and divisive rhetoric Trump has created around the Wall. It flies in the face of what I believe are American values so I understand why the Dems are blocking him from getting that talking point.

 

[Thinker101]

Are these not your words?

I said that I don’t care if people come or go. If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in, registered and let our economy grow.

Yes those were my words... what you claimed were certainly not my words. You just proved you lied.
Are you telling us that we should absorb 138 MILLION PEOPLE? That's what you said!

Here, again, is what you said. "I said that I don’t care if people come or go. If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in, registered and let our economy grow."

You said, "If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in". I assigned a number to your rant and now you realize how crazy is your bleating.

Progressives are like that, they spew fantasy, pie in the sky, free for everyone goals without one thought as to the cost or other ramifications.

Thank you!

Why are you thanking me? You are fighting a fictitious battle. If you think I’m supporting bringing a billion people over here then you aren’t really listening to what I’m saying. Of course there needs to be limitations. We need to improve our system to screen people better, provide asylum better, to provide work status quicker and better and to track people with visas better. I’m not saying open borders no system. I’m saying better system, less people sneaking over here and hiding in the shadows. If you would listen and ask questions instead of knee jerk reactions you might understand that.

So then you're for a wall?

I’m for funding walls, fencing and whatever else homeland security needs to keep our border secure. I’m not supportive of the marketing campaign and divisive rhetoric Trump has created around the Wall. It flies in the face of what I believe are American values so I understand why the Dems are blocking him from getting that talking point.

So the Dems are preventing funding of the wall because they don't like his marketing campaign? Sounds like quite a stretch.

 

[Markle]

No not for voting, causes too much chaos in a program that is working perfectly. Despite all your garbage propaganda super dupe.

Like a retarded parrot you cry “National iD” over and over again. Explain to us good, legit, real Americans why issuing an iD to and legitimizing tens of millions of low iQ filthy criminals whom shit in the faces of Americans is better than tweaking some laws and finally enforcing the laws our fucked up politicians are sworn to uphold?

All foreign nationals in the US should have a federal id. The several States have no basis to care if someone is from out of State or from out of state since 1808.

Ooooh Nooo, that will hurt the poor folks.

We're not talkin about voter ID. There is no problem to solve and it would hurt the elderly, the young, students, minorities. We're talkin about an ID card for work only.

So your suggestion is multiple ID cards? One to vote, one to work, one to drive....any others?

Yeah, Troll francoHFW LOVES the Nazi way of doing things.

Oh, and if you're a conservative, you have to wear a yellow "C" on your chest like the Jews had to wear a yellow star under Hitler.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Of course you don’t. You like to think since we have it so good, we are obligated to share our country with the rest of the world.


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I was raised with values to give back to society and especially the less fortunate. I don’t categorize that based on nationality or anything else. Our nation has also reflected those values for generations and we have become world leaders. I advocate keeping and growing those values not retreating into the selfish nationalist blackhole that you advocate for.

Giving away what others have worked for or forcing them to sacrifice is not charity, it's theft.

You want to help these people? Fly to Guatemala and help them. Don't bring them here.

I’ve never brought anybody here. What are you talking about?

You support people and policies that do. Same, same.......

fake news super duper... Pass the damn ID card.

I told you a million times the ACLU oppose it

So what? Link? Maybe it could be tinkered with to get their approval. Or screw them LOL

sorry franco...it may work in Vermont with 20,000 illegals but it wont work in areas with millions of them....it will be called racist.......

Not when they are given amnesty...I think you're transferring the argument about voter ID over to this ID, anyway.

many people are against amnesty for people, many, who can give a **** about the country.....and there are lots of them in California...

Too bad they lose. Pretty pathetic actually...

i agree,coming here and not giving a shit about the country they want to plop their asses in....yes pathetic people...

 

[Harry Dresden]

I was raised with values to give back to society and especially the less fortunate. I don’t categorize that based on nationality or anything else. Our nation has also reflected those values for generations and we have become world leaders. I advocate keeping and growing those values not retreating into the selfish nationalist blackhole that you advocate for.

Giving away what others have worked for or forcing them to sacrifice is not charity, it's theft.

You want to help these people? Fly to Guatemala and help them. Don't bring them here.

I’ve never brought anybody here. What are you talking about?

You support people and policies that do. Same, same.......

fake news super duper... Pass the damn ID card.

So what? Link? Maybe it could be tinkered with to get their approval. Or screw them LOL

sorry franco...it may work in Vermont with 20,000 illegals but it wont work in areas with millions of them....it will be called racist.......

Not when they are given amnesty...I think you're transferring the argument about voter ID over to this ID, anyway.

many people are against amnesty for people, many, who can give a **** about the country.....and there are lots of them in California...

Too bad they lose. Pretty pathetic actually...

Tell them 94% of adult male illegals work, 65% pay taxes, 35% own homes, none are on welfare or vote, and their brainwashed brains explode...

you would think somewhat different if you lived in the midst of them....i am talking about their attitude....many of them still live like they are in Mexico or whatever country they came from....and could care less about raising their living standards...Disneyland found out this with the area on one of their borders...

 

[Harry Dresden]

Giving away what others have worked for or forcing them to sacrifice is not charity, it's theft.

You want to help these people? Fly to Guatemala and help them. Don't bring them here.

I’ve never brought anybody here. What are you talking about?

You support people and policies that do. Same, same.......

fake news super duper... Pass the damn ID card.

sorry franco...it may work in Vermont with 20,000 illegals but it wont work in areas with millions of them....it will be called racist.......

Not when they are given amnesty...I think you're transferring the argument about voter ID over to this ID, anyway.

many people are against amnesty for people, many, who can give a **** about the country.....and there are lots of them in California...

Too bad they lose. Pretty pathetic actually...

Tell them 94% of adult male illegals work, 65% pay taxes, 35% own homes, none are on welfare or vote, and their brainwashed brains explode...

Did you see the Bills rookie quarterback Josh Allen was named offense of player of the week, and Boomer esiason kept saying he is must watch TV! Many happy years of watching that guy to come... He passed for three touchdowns and ran for two, last guy to do that was Jim Kelly.

the one Bills game that always stuck in my head was when OJ ran for 200 yards in blizzard conditions...