Hows that Sanctuary State worken for ya California?

[Slade3200]

Mr Ray who I was having this discussion with has been promoting the idea of closed borders.

So, all that whining about ONE PERSON?

I dont know what you thought was whining but I was having a conversation that you jumped in the middle of. You are welcome to join but instead of trying to make me into the jackass why aren’t you calling Ray a jackass for having the closed borders agenda?

Because maybe we feel other people on our side are allowed to have different opinions?

Yes, I am for closed borders; at least until the people we have now assimilate into the United States. That's not happening because we have way too many people from one area of the world here at one time. They are changing our country. Bringing in more will only make it worse.

Everybody is allowed to have their own opinion. But Markle jumped down my throat saying that nobody supports closed borders in an attempt to make it sound like I was using a strawman argument when in fact I was talking to you who was actually making that claim. That’s what happens when emotional people are quick to insult and aren’t actually trying to engage in a civil discussion

 

[Slade3200]

There’s no corner when you put words in my mouth and argue against that instead of the things I actually say. If that’s what you need to do to feel like you won an argument then fine but that’s pretty pathetic.

I never said we need more people here. I said that I don’t care if people come or go. If people want to come here and can work, contribute and pursue the American dream then more power to them. Get them in, registered and let our economy grow. I don’t know how many times I need to repeat myself. Please read slower and stop misrepresenting my arguments

[My highlight above]

How practical is that fantasy of yours! Oh, that's right, practicality is not a word in a Progressives vocabulary.

[...]

Gallup released some new data this week on migration, for which they asked people from 154 countries if they would like to migrate, and if so where to. The United States was by far the most popular destination; Gallup estimates that 138 million people would like to relocate there. The United Kingdom was the second-most popular, with 42 million potential migrants, followed by Canada, France and Saudi Arabia.

A revealing map of who wants to move to the U.S.

It’s very practical if a pathway is opened people will follow it

Yeah, about two billion people. Then what?

I don’t think 2 billlion people would all apply at once but if they did then we would do what we can to process and accommodate as many as we can as quickly as we can. If a smart system is set up to process people then anything is possible. People coming with means looking to start businesses or retire would be easy ins. Same with people with family members or friends who would be willing to sponsor them. People looking for work can be admitted in numbers related to our unemployment rate so we aren’t making it impossible for our citizens to get work. There are a lot of things that we can do.

 

[Slade3200]

That’s a bullshit statement that entirely depends on perspective. Is a jaywalker who gets a ticket being rewarded because they weren’t taken to jail? Is a kid who cuts in line at an amusement park rewarded for being sent to the back of the line instead of being kicked out of the park? No, they are both received fair punishments for breaking the rules

You might think that it is a reward if they aren’t deported but there are other ways to hold them accountable for trying to skip the system

What you said is take all these law breakers and get them into the system and continue to let them live here. Yes, I call that a reward.

Give them community service or take away their opportunity to become citizens... apply a penalty but do something because bitching and pushing for mass deportation is not going to ever happen. Time for solutions

You don't need mass deportation. Throw them out one at a time if necessary. Don't worry, if the word gets around, the rest will leave on their own.

I don’t see that working or even having a chance of being initiated.

Not with Democrats constantly crying and complaining.......no it won't.

It’s not crying and complaining, it’s just a difference in perspective and values. If they are crying and complaining then you are also doing the same when you express your views. Let’s stop talking like children now shall we?

 

[Slade3200]

Gustavo Perez Arriaga has been arrested for allegedly killing a CA police officer

Gustavo Perez Arriaga - Bing video

Good, get these gang bangers off the street.

You do realize he is an illegal alien?

Yes but I’m not out to demonize illegal aliens because one was a gang banger. It’s not an honest position to take.

It is the state of California’s fault that this lunatic is there in the first place.

That’s like saying it’s the gun manufactures fault or a gun stores fault for a mass shooter having a gun and killing people. Idiot logic

 

[BrokeLoser]

Mr Ray who I was having this discussion with has been promoting the idea of closed borders.

So, all that whining about ONE PERSON?

I dont know what you thought was whining but I was having a conversation that you jumped in the middle of. You are welcome to join but instead of trying to make me into the jackass why aren’t you calling Ray a jackass for having the closed borders agenda?

Because maybe we feel other people on our side are allowed to have different opinions?

Yes, I am for closed borders; at least until the people we have now assimilate into the United States. That's not happening because we have way too many people from one area of the world here at one time. They are changing our country. Bringing in more will only make it worse.

Everybody is allowed to have their own opinion. But Markle jumped down my throat saying that nobody supports closed borders in an attempt to make it sound like I was using a strawman argument when in fact I was talking to you who was actually making that claim. That’s what happens when emotional people are quick to insult and aren’t actually trying to engage in a civil discussion

Slade, I’ve debated many things with you...you are impossible to understand and reason with as you make assertions and various implications then walk things back using retarded word play. Mama always said “never try to reason with the unreasonable”.
You have extremely unAmerican views...you take a position against the best interests of the people of this nation...you are who got Trump to the Oval Office....Thanks for that.

 

[Slade3200]

Mr Ray who I was having this discussion with has been promoting the idea of closed borders.

So, all that whining about ONE PERSON?

I dont know what you thought was whining but I was having a conversation that you jumped in the middle of. You are welcome to join but instead of trying to make me into the jackass why aren’t you calling Ray a jackass for having the closed borders agenda?

Because maybe we feel other people on our side are allowed to have different opinions?

Yes, I am for closed borders; at least until the people we have now assimilate into the United States. That's not happening because we have way too many people from one area of the world here at one time. They are changing our country. Bringing in more will only make it worse.

Everybody is allowed to have their own opinion. But Markle jumped down my throat saying that nobody supports closed borders in an attempt to make it sound like I was using a strawman argument when in fact I was talking to you who was actually making that claim. That’s what happens when emotional people are quick to insult and aren’t actually trying to engage in a civil discussion

Slade, I’ve debated many things with you...you are impossible to understand and reason with as you make assertions and various implications then walk things back using retarded word play. Mama always said “never try to reason with the unreasonable”.
You have extremely unAmerican views...you take a position against the best interests of the people of this nation...you are who got Trump to the Oval Office....Thanks for that.

I try and approach most conversations with an open mind so if I walk anything back it is because I’m exposed to new intel or somebody makes an argument that resonates. What happens more often than not with you is you constantly misrepresent my statements by taking them to extremes or interjecting your own spin to distort what I’m saying. Talk about games and word play, look in the mirror man. I take your statements at face value and ask questions. You spin mine around and then debate based on a false premise and when I correct you, you call it “walking it back”. Nice try but not true

 

[francoHFW]

Gustavo Perez Arriaga has been arrested for allegedly killing a CA police officer

Gustavo Perez Arriaga - Bing video

They don't give a shit what illegals do once they are here. It's all about votes and gaining power and the left will use people any way they need to in order to win.

Not one of the Dem leaders had anything to say about the death of yet another cop. They've ignored the thousands of people killed by illegals. They had plenty to say about a little boy dying after he and his father were apprehended sneaking through the border. It was not the fault of our authorities. The boy had an infection that went septic, one he likely contracted during the long trip here and even though they sought medical help as soon as they knew there was a problem, it was too late. Yet, CNN is treating it like the crime of the century.

Meanwhile, illegals rape, murder, assault, rob and steal people's property and identities and the left shrugs it off as no big deal.

They need illegals because not enough American citizens stand behind them and their radical agenda. They need more uninformed voters who will trade freedom and liberty for freebies. People who don't belong in this country are helping to destroy this country.

California allows them to vote, no questions asked. It's been reported by poll workers that many voted more than once and no one was expected to even fill out a form. If they walked in, they were handed a ballot.

Illegals also get counted in the census, which is why Dems want millions of them in their districts. It allows them more electoral votes. People like Hillary win popular votes, thanks to the estimated 22 million illegals here. Just one area in California, which is heavily populated with illegals, would have handed her the election. No wonder the left hates electoral voting. It allows a voice to the minority states. They only want rights for their supporters and screw everyone else.

So, don't expect any of them to cry over citizens being murdered or any of the other crimes that make victims of citizens. All that matters is votes and getting back power.

The Dems don't care about safety or welfare of people. They are using people to get what they want and it's as simple as that.

The wall is stupid and it won't work. Pass a national ID card for crying out loud...

Sure, like the voter ID that democrats are against?....dumbass.

No not for voting, causes too much chaos in a program that is working perfectly. Despite all your garbage propaganda super dupe.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Gustavo Perez Arriaga has been arrested for allegedly killing a CA police officer

Gustavo Perez Arriaga - Bing video

They don't give a shit what illegals do once they are here. It's all about votes and gaining power and the left will use people any way they need to in order to win.

Not one of the Dem leaders had anything to say about the death of yet another cop. They've ignored the thousands of people killed by illegals. They had plenty to say about a little boy dying after he and his father were apprehended sneaking through the border. It was not the fault of our authorities. The boy had an infection that went septic, one he likely contracted during the long trip here and even though they sought medical help as soon as they knew there was a problem, it was too late. Yet, CNN is treating it like the crime of the century.

Meanwhile, illegals rape, murder, assault, rob and steal people's property and identities and the left shrugs it off as no big deal.

They need illegals because not enough American citizens stand behind them and their radical agenda. They need more uninformed voters who will trade freedom and liberty for freebies. People who don't belong in this country are helping to destroy this country.

California allows them to vote, no questions asked. It's been reported by poll workers that many voted more than once and no one was expected to even fill out a form. If they walked in, they were handed a ballot.

Illegals also get counted in the census, which is why Dems want millions of them in their districts. It allows them more electoral votes. People like Hillary win popular votes, thanks to the estimated 22 million illegals here. Just one area in California, which is heavily populated with illegals, would have handed her the election. No wonder the left hates electoral voting. It allows a voice to the minority states. They only want rights for their supporters and screw everyone else.

So, don't expect any of them to cry over citizens being murdered or any of the other crimes that make victims of citizens. All that matters is votes and getting back power.

The Dems don't care about safety or welfare of people. They are using people to get what they want and it's as simple as that.

The wall is stupid and it won't work. Pass a national ID card for crying out loud...

Sure, like the voter ID that democrats are against?....dumbass.

No not for voting, causes too much chaos in a program that is working perfectly. Despite all your garbage propaganda super dupe.

Like a retarded parrot you cry “National iD” over and over again. Explain to us good, legit, real Americans why issuing an iD to and legitimizing tens of millions of low iQ filthy criminals whom shit in the faces of Americans is better than tweaking some laws and finally enforcing the laws our fucked up politicians are sworn to uphold?

 

[francoHFW]

Gustavo Perez Arriaga has been arrested for allegedly killing a CA police officer

Gustavo Perez Arriaga - Bing video

They don't give a shit what illegals do once they are here. It's all about votes and gaining power and the left will use people any way they need to in order to win.

Not one of the Dem leaders had anything to say about the death of yet another cop. They've ignored the thousands of people killed by illegals. They had plenty to say about a little boy dying after he and his father were apprehended sneaking through the border. It was not the fault of our authorities. The boy had an infection that went septic, one he likely contracted during the long trip here and even though they sought medical help as soon as they knew there was a problem, it was too late. Yet, CNN is treating it like the crime of the century.

Meanwhile, illegals rape, murder, assault, rob and steal people's property and identities and the left shrugs it off as no big deal.

They need illegals because not enough American citizens stand behind them and their radical agenda. They need more uninformed voters who will trade freedom and liberty for freebies. People who don't belong in this country are helping to destroy this country.

California allows them to vote, no questions asked. It's been reported by poll workers that many voted more than once and no one was expected to even fill out a form. If they walked in, they were handed a ballot.

Illegals also get counted in the census, which is why Dems want millions of them in their districts. It allows them more electoral votes. People like Hillary win popular votes, thanks to the estimated 22 million illegals here. Just one area in California, which is heavily populated with illegals, would have handed her the election. No wonder the left hates electoral voting. It allows a voice to the minority states. They only want rights for their supporters and screw everyone else.

So, don't expect any of them to cry over citizens being murdered or any of the other crimes that make victims of citizens. All that matters is votes and getting back power.

The Dems don't care about safety or welfare of people. They are using people to get what they want and it's as simple as that.

The wall is stupid and it won't work. Pass a national ID card for crying out loud...

Sure, like the voter ID that democrats are against?....dumbass.

No not for voting, causes too much chaos in a program that is working perfectly. Despite all your garbage propaganda super dupe.

Like a retarded parrot you cry “National iD” over and over again. Explain to us good, legit, real Americans why issuing an iD to and legitimizing tens of millions of low iQ filthy criminals whom shit in the faces of Americans is better than tweaking some laws and finally enforcing the laws our fucked up politicians are sworn to uphold?

You live in a dumbass universe where deporting 12 million hard-working people is even possible. Passed the Damned ID card and no more illegal immigrants. Democrats want one, the GOP uses it as a political football fear-mongering about communists LOL read something.

 

[BrokeLoser]

They don't give a shit what illegals do once they are here. It's all about votes and gaining power and the left will use people any way they need to in order to win.

Not one of the Dem leaders had anything to say about the death of yet another cop. They've ignored the thousands of people killed by illegals. They had plenty to say about a little boy dying after he and his father were apprehended sneaking through the border. It was not the fault of our authorities. The boy had an infection that went septic, one he likely contracted during the long trip here and even though they sought medical help as soon as they knew there was a problem, it was too late. Yet, CNN is treating it like the crime of the century.

Meanwhile, illegals rape, murder, assault, rob and steal people's property and identities and the left shrugs it off as no big deal.

They need illegals because not enough American citizens stand behind them and their radical agenda. They need more uninformed voters who will trade freedom and liberty for freebies. People who don't belong in this country are helping to destroy this country.

California allows them to vote, no questions asked. It's been reported by poll workers that many voted more than once and no one was expected to even fill out a form. If they walked in, they were handed a ballot.

Illegals also get counted in the census, which is why Dems want millions of them in their districts. It allows them more electoral votes. People like Hillary win popular votes, thanks to the estimated 22 million illegals here. Just one area in California, which is heavily populated with illegals, would have handed her the election. No wonder the left hates electoral voting. It allows a voice to the minority states. They only want rights for their supporters and screw everyone else.

So, don't expect any of them to cry over citizens being murdered or any of the other crimes that make victims of citizens. All that matters is votes and getting back power.

The Dems don't care about safety or welfare of people. They are using people to get what they want and it's as simple as that.

The wall is stupid and it won't work. Pass a national ID card for crying out loud...

Sure, like the voter ID that democrats are against?....dumbass.

No not for voting, causes too much chaos in a program that is working perfectly. Despite all your garbage propaganda super dupe.

Like a retarded parrot you cry “National iD” over and over again. Explain to us good, legit, real Americans why issuing an iD to and legitimizing tens of millions of low iQ filthy criminals whom shit in the faces of Americans is better than tweaking some laws and finally enforcing the laws our fucked up politicians are sworn to uphold?

You live in a dumbass universe where deporting 12 million hard-working people is even possible. Passed the Damned ID card and no more illegal immigrants. Democrats want one, the GOP uses it as a political football fear-mongering about communists LOL read something.

Hahaha...63% are on the taxpayer tit...the rest are in jails and prisons and ruining every single community they inhabit.....you speak like any other nutless ***** hiding their real agenda....Think Operation ******* bud...Ike ran 1.3 million cockroaches out of here with only 7,500 soldiers.

 

[Thinker101]

Gustavo Perez Arriaga has been arrested for allegedly killing a CA police officer

Gustavo Perez Arriaga - Bing video

Good, get these gang bangers off the street.

You do realize he is an illegal alien?

Yes but I’m not out to demonize illegal aliens because one was a gang banger. It’s not an honest position to take.

It is the state of California’s fault that this lunatic is there in the first place.

That’s like saying it’s the gun manufactures fault or a gun stores fault for a mass shooter having a gun and killing people. Idiot logic

Yup, idiotic logic.
Alt-Left Insanity: Liberals Are Gunning for Firearms Industry

 

[Thinker101]

Gustavo Perez Arriaga has been arrested for allegedly killing a CA police officer

Gustavo Perez Arriaga - Bing video

They don't give a shit what illegals do once they are here. It's all about votes and gaining power and the left will use people any way they need to in order to win.

Not one of the Dem leaders had anything to say about the death of yet another cop. They've ignored the thousands of people killed by illegals. They had plenty to say about a little boy dying after he and his father were apprehended sneaking through the border. It was not the fault of our authorities. The boy had an infection that went septic, one he likely contracted during the long trip here and even though they sought medical help as soon as they knew there was a problem, it was too late. Yet, CNN is treating it like the crime of the century.

Meanwhile, illegals rape, murder, assault, rob and steal people's property and identities and the left shrugs it off as no big deal.

They need illegals because not enough American citizens stand behind them and their radical agenda. They need more uninformed voters who will trade freedom and liberty for freebies. People who don't belong in this country are helping to destroy this country.

California allows them to vote, no questions asked. It's been reported by poll workers that many voted more than once and no one was expected to even fill out a form. If they walked in, they were handed a ballot.

Illegals also get counted in the census, which is why Dems want millions of them in their districts. It allows them more electoral votes. People like Hillary win popular votes, thanks to the estimated 22 million illegals here. Just one area in California, which is heavily populated with illegals, would have handed her the election. No wonder the left hates electoral voting. It allows a voice to the minority states. They only want rights for their supporters and screw everyone else.

So, don't expect any of them to cry over citizens being murdered or any of the other crimes that make victims of citizens. All that matters is votes and getting back power.

The Dems don't care about safety or welfare of people. They are using people to get what they want and it's as simple as that.

The wall is stupid and it won't work. Pass a national ID card for crying out loud...

Sure, like the voter ID that democrats are against?....dumbass.

No not for voting, causes too much chaos in a program that is working perfectly. Despite all your garbage propaganda super dupe.

What!? The voting program works perfectly? Haven't you been talking to other idiot liberals that feel it's broken?

 

[Tax Man]

California is so nice. You cons can have the rest of America the ugly.

 

[Thinker101]

They don't give a shit what illegals do once they are here. It's all about votes and gaining power and the left will use people any way they need to in order to win.

Not one of the Dem leaders had anything to say about the death of yet another cop. They've ignored the thousands of people killed by illegals. They had plenty to say about a little boy dying after he and his father were apprehended sneaking through the border. It was not the fault of our authorities. The boy had an infection that went septic, one he likely contracted during the long trip here and even though they sought medical help as soon as they knew there was a problem, it was too late. Yet, CNN is treating it like the crime of the century.

Meanwhile, illegals rape, murder, assault, rob and steal people's property and identities and the left shrugs it off as no big deal.

They need illegals because not enough American citizens stand behind them and their radical agenda. They need more uninformed voters who will trade freedom and liberty for freebies. People who don't belong in this country are helping to destroy this country.

California allows them to vote, no questions asked. It's been reported by poll workers that many voted more than once and no one was expected to even fill out a form. If they walked in, they were handed a ballot.

Illegals also get counted in the census, which is why Dems want millions of them in their districts. It allows them more electoral votes. People like Hillary win popular votes, thanks to the estimated 22 million illegals here. Just one area in California, which is heavily populated with illegals, would have handed her the election. No wonder the left hates electoral voting. It allows a voice to the minority states. They only want rights for their supporters and screw everyone else.

So, don't expect any of them to cry over citizens being murdered or any of the other crimes that make victims of citizens. All that matters is votes and getting back power.

The Dems don't care about safety or welfare of people. They are using people to get what they want and it's as simple as that.

The wall is stupid and it won't work. Pass a national ID card for crying out loud...

Sure, like the voter ID that democrats are against?....dumbass.

No not for voting, causes too much chaos in a program that is working perfectly. Despite all your garbage propaganda super dupe.

Like a retarded parrot you cry “National iD” over and over again. Explain to us good, legit, real Americans why issuing an iD to and legitimizing tens of millions of low iQ filthy criminals whom shit in the faces of Americans is better than tweaking some laws and finally enforcing the laws our fucked up politicians are sworn to uphold?

You live in a dumbass universe where deporting 12 million hard-working people is even possible. Passed the Damned ID card and no more illegal immigrants. Democrats want one, the GOP uses it as a political football fear-mongering about communists LOL read something.

For Christ Sake, you had a chance to say something semi-intelligent, and you blew it....dumbass.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

California is so nice. You cons can have the rest of America the ugly.

We will. Maybe eventually you'll leave the union and we can put a fence around the entire state; give it to Mexico or something.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Gustavo Perez Arriaga has been arrested for allegedly killing a CA police officer

Gustavo Perez Arriaga - Bing video

Good, get these gang bangers off the street.

You do realize he is an illegal alien?

Yes but I’m not out to demonize illegal aliens because one was a gang banger. It’s not an honest position to take.

It is the state of California’s fault that this lunatic is there in the first place.

That’s like saying it’s the gun manufactures fault or a gun stores fault for a mass shooter having a gun and killing people. Idiot logic

NEGATIVE
That’s pathetic, desperate and far reaching foolishness...There is no comparison there...the framers of our great Constitution gave us the right to bear arms thus creating a demand for gun makers to supply....Our founders never gave wetbacks a right to be here...Against the will of the people, the treasonous, nutless unAmerican pieces of shits in Mexifornia did however.
(this is an opportunity for you to use logic and show you can be reasonable....this is where you say “****, you’re right.”)

 

[Thinker101]

California is so nice. You cons can have the rest of America the ugly.

Spoken like someone that doesn't have a clue.

 

[Tax Man]

California is so nice. You cons can have the rest of America the ugly.

We will. Maybe eventually you'll leave the union and we can put a fence around the entire state; give it to Mexico or something.

When you learn that we, California, support you and that the support will die if we leave you may sing a different tune.

 

[Tax Man]

California is so nice. You cons can have the rest of America the ugly.

Spoken like someone that doesn't have a clue.

I know you don't.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Gustavo Perez Arriaga has been arrested for allegedly killing a CA police officer

Gustavo Perez Arriaga - Bing video

Good, get these gang bangers off the street.

You do realize he is an illegal alien?

Yes but I’m not out to demonize illegal aliens because one was a gang banger. It’s not an honest position to take.

It is the state of California’s fault that this lunatic is there in the first place.

That’s like saying it’s the gun manufactures fault or a gun stores fault for a mass shooter having a gun and killing people. Idiot logic

Gun manufacturers never invited criminals to use their products. California makes it easy for criminals to harbor there by being a sanctuary state. This cop killer was deported before and arrested on DUI"s before. California law prohibits law enforcement from contacting ICE where they could have gotten rid of this guy before he killed that police officer, so your comparison is way off.