how would biden take my guns.

[BLUE COLLAR]

And yet, we have an oligarchy and are slaves while mistakenly thinking we have democratic representation.

If you make yourselve to a slave then you are a slave. But an extremistic opinion makes you not to a slave. The most people wiLl just simple not share the nonsense, which you say.

Ask yourself what kind of system is like this:

1) Corporations and corporate PACs comprise most funding for most candidates of either party.
2) Elected officials neither write the legislation they present nor fully read what they pass, but corporate think tanks do the writing instead.
3) Both parties routinely bail out corporations, enter unnecessary wars, and spend far more than the government collects with no concern at all for inflation.
4) Most mainstream media is owned by the same corporations that own the politicians.

Would you describe that as a democracy?

Democratic action plays a role but for the better part, we are a plutocracy (power derived from wealth). Trumpism introduced fascism as a serious player in American Politics. Despite this term often being misused hereabouts (as a slur tied to commie), fascism is right handed, a hyper brand of nationalism with an authoritarian at it's head.

Trump wasn't authoritarian though. He took a states' rights approach to a lot of things, like COVID restrictions. An actual authoritarian would have exercised a lot of federal authority. Trump was more active regarding certain forms of economic protectionism, but that actually makes him very similar to old school Democrats (like FDR and Truman).

Nationalism itself isn't fascist. Fascism requires pretty heavy handed federal control over society. A much better example of it would be China's government.

Trump's attempt to overthrow an election was a serious authoritarian move as was his misuse of the Justice Department.

He did neither thing........his legal actions to fight unConstitutional actions in various states that changed election law illegally were not authoritarian in any way.

It was obama, not Trump, who misused the DOJ.....

No, that part was just a misguided waste of donations.

But you overlook his intent, the dumbass thing that was done on Jan 6th. The Senate is charged with counting the electoral votes (a formality) and signing off. What Trump wanted was to change the electoral vote, and thereby retain the WH.

 

[BLUE COLLAR]

And yet, we have an oligarchy and are slaves while mistakenly thinking we have democratic representation.

If you make yourselve to a slave then you are a slave. But an extremistic opinion makes you not to a slave. The most people wiLl just simple not share the nonsense, which you say.

Ask yourself what kind of system is like this:

1) Corporations and corporate PACs comprise most funding for most candidates of either party.
2) Elected officials neither write the legislation they present nor fully read what they pass, but corporate think tanks do the writing instead.
3) Both parties routinely bail out corporations, enter unnecessary wars, and spend far more than the government collects with no concern at all for inflation.
4) Most mainstream media is owned by the same corporations that own the politicians.

Would you describe that as a democracy?

Democratic action plays a role but for the better part, we are a plutocracy (power derived from wealth). Trumpism introduced fascism as a serious player in American Politics. Despite this term often being misused hereabouts (as a slur tied to commie), fascism is right handed, a hyper brand of nationalism with an authoritarian at it's head.

Trump wasn't authoritarian though. He took a states' rights approach to a lot of things, like COVID restrictions. An actual authoritarian would have exercised a lot of federal authority. Trump was more active regarding certain forms of economic protectionism, but that actually makes him very similar to old school Democrats (like FDR and Truman).

Nationalism itself isn't fascist. Fascism requires pretty heavy handed federal control over society. A much better example of it would be China's government.

Trump's attempt to overthrow an election was a serious authoritarian move as was his misuse of the Justice Department.

best 10th amendment President ever, it's a great thing.

If you value his genius, you should keep him away from Lysol, and woman with urinary infections.

The current President is a Pedophile. Video of him fondling children by the evolved era standards. He is mentally challenged. And the Progressive Socialists are to blame for this situation because of power. We deserve the worst and tens of million dead. And then the media, entertainers and even prog politicians and their RINO Repub ball washers will get it also.

I can't help you. Good luck.

 

[zaangalewa]

just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..

Idiot Biden says he wants to take your assault weapons,(AR15 is one). It won't be easy.
If you already have it, it will be tough to take it legally.

An AR15 is not an assault weapon.

The AR-15 is an assault weapon for use in war. The correct German word for this kind of weapon is "Maschinenkarabiner". Who owns such a weapon or sells such a weapon in Germany (for private use) risks to go to jail for up to 10 years. And this law makes a lot of sense. I read for example from a shooting in the USA, where policemen were directly in front, when the shooting started. They reacted very well and very fast in the best of all possible ways under this extreme pressure. Nevertheless some people had to die before they were able to shoot down the killer.

And again, you don't know what you are talking about.

The AR-15 is a civilian rifle....it has never been used by the US military.

The AR-15 is equivalent to the M16 guns of your forces. As I said: In Germany the correct word for this kind of weapon is "Maschinenkarabiner". All weapons in this kind of weapon are war weapons. Whether an army is using it or not is not the criterion. To own or to trade such weapons in Germany (for private use) means to risk to have to go into jail up to 10 years.

On the other hand......the pump action shotgun is an actual military weapon....in use right now by the US millitary around the world.

The bolt action rifle....is an actual military weapon....in use, right now, by the US military around the world......

Please.....try understanding the issues before you post.

no comment

someone said the German word for bra is Holdzemfromfloplin...
i'm kidding, are you in germany now ?
i love that you engage in english... anyone of multiple languages is ok with me. thank you.

"Maschinenkarabiner" = machine carbine

 

[washamericom]

No one is coming for your guns, dumbass.

If you believe that, you are either ignorant or a fool. You pick.

or both!!

 

[washamericom]

just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..

Hilarious. Are you a criminal, underaged or insane ? If not, you have nothing to worry about. And, if you are but don’t commit any more crimes, you can probably keep the ones you have. Like, if I were you, I wouldn’t storm the capital anytime soon.

Scary - huh?

Grown men, strangers, wonder onto the internet pretending a plot to attack something they proport to love (albeit a something that is sick and in need of surgery which they are qualified to perform).

Scarier still is the math; given enough instances of this kind of comic drama, the worst is bound to happen. Witness Jan 6, and the deadly but almost childlike insurrection. Good grief.

What's scary, is that someone like you who has an absolutely infantile grasp of reality, is walking around without a minder.

Your post has absolutely nothing to do with a topic other than me. It's an ad hominem, a personal attack and it bores me.

Then by your own standards, your post is an ad hominem as it had nothing to do with the topic. LMAO, you morons are too much.

My reply addressed the nature of ad hominems and my boredom with them. I attacked what the poster said just as I will in citing the adolescent use of the word "moron".

And the truth hurts, eh? BTW, that is another off topic post. So take your hypocritical pompous ass down the road you arrogant bastard--now you've really been schooled in adolescent vocabulary--which is also off topic.

You are off topic.

Wow, You are amazingly quick on the uptake after being told three times to "STAY ON TOPIC" and that makes four, thread hijacking is frowned upon here.

I engage what is put before me though sometimes making a poor choice.

... how would biden take my guns. ...

My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.

dejd

... how would biden take my guns. ...

My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.

define happy ?

Eh? Alcohol, drugs, weapons ... all this things make unhappy. Guns are a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of energy and guns are damned dangerous - specially for the own life and family. Better to waste money, time and energy by learning and reading books. Books make competent and happy.

what about happiness is a warm gun ?
the gun is my best friend, rural vermont demands self protection, the last time i dialed 911 it took 45 minutes for the state police to arrive, sheriff response is longer.. those are the people we have to call.

Buy an axe. And latest when you will nail some heads of your enemies over the front door of your house everyone will know that you need no one's help. ... Oh damn. Wrong country. Wrong century. - Germany some thousand years ago. Forget this advice. Today all German policemen together (~ 250,000 men and women) have to shoot less than 100 times a year - including warn shots - and less than 10 people have to die a year. And nearly never a policeman is losing the own life. So you see: There are real ways far from all forms of paranoia and wrong heroism.

History has shown how nazis like using guns

History shows that US-Americans have not a big idea about "Nazis" - and try to hide a lot of the own historical wrongdoings by using this word.

ok adolph no rewrite of your nazi history

Always nice to speak with idiots like you, who still live in 1945 in an aeroplane, which fires on innocent refugees. When will you start to be born and to live your own life?

thing is you nazis never went away you just try to rewrite history to make it look like you did.

Okay. Let me inform you that you call someone "Nazi", who lost a big part of his family in the holocaust on his own and you are on the way to get tough problems with god personally.

one of the saddest things i've ever heard is "that's why i don't have any aunt's or uncle's". six million innocent people exterminated. my God, the horror of that gets diluted generationally.
that could not happen in America, we know why.

The Nazis made the first racist law against Jews in 1935. And no one in the world protested because everywhere all over the world existed racist laws. No one thought such things are possible in Germany. The racism in Germany was by the way a very special form of racism: The Nazis needed a marker to be able to see a difference between Jews and other Germans. For me personally the holocaust it not a genocide - it's a fratricide for me.

And what could not happen in the USA? ... Ward Churchill for example said it existed 12 million Red Indians in the year 1500 in Northamerica. In 1900 still existed only 237,000 descendants of them. Worldwide the population grew about 1.5-2 times during this time. So 237,000 are only about 0.65%. In 1694 in Massachusetts for example they made a price for scalps of Red Indians - in 1704 they stopped to pay the price for children under 10 - later they stopped to pay for children under 12 years. ...

But back to the Nazis: In general the Nazis were so damned good with their brainwashing political propaganda that much to many totally normal and intelligent people with a very good education were really convinced that it is good to wipe out all Jews, because Jews are dangerous for Germans - while indeed the Jews in Germany had been nothing else than Germans like all others.

Just a guess but you appear to be working hard at what is not your native tongue. And you are doing a good job. I very much enjoyed your post.

I'm not sure but seem to recall that the initial Nazi Gun Laws exclusively targeted the Jewish People.

Actually, the initial gun laws were created in 1920s........the German government wanted to register guns....so they could make sure bad people didn't get them.....sound familiar? The communists and national socialists were fighting each other.....and to crack down on the violent street fights and shootings......they wanted to register guns....

The German people were told that strict measures would be in place to keep the records of gun ownership safe...

The first thing the national socialists did when they took control was to use the registration records from the 1920s to disarm Jews and their political enemies....

This is why we will always oppose any attempt to register American guns...

I could make an argument of your need to oppose registration of firearms (starting with this isn't Nazi Germany).

Instead, I'll back off and say thank you for the history lesson.

Nazi Germany wasn't nazi Germany in the 1920s either.........in less than 20 years they went from Weimar Germany to death camps.....and they first registered guns....then the nazis banned and confiscated them.

Yes, I 'm familiar with the Deutshe Reich (commonly, the Weimar Republic); read a whole book on it many years ago.

A lot of people are using the German Gun Laws as an analogy to the US. They might want to take a look at another analogy, that being how quickly an intelligent population and constitutional democracy fell prey to a demagogue.

In a dictatorship, people who criticize the dictator tend to have bad things happen to them. Almost half the people and 99% of the media shit on Trump for years and nothing happened to any of them.
But what happens to folks who get on the establishment's shit list? Investigation's by everyone from the FBI to the IRS, loss of employment, media hit pieces, persecution, prosecution, "cancel culture" swarms, Twitter mobs,etc.


Trump was never the problem.

Seriously, what happens to virtually anyone who crosses Trump. Pence, Cohen, Haley, McCarthy, Barr, Sessions and how many Secretary's of Defense can we count.

Trump is reaping what he has sown. Brace yourself, it's going to get worse with little if any of it coming from the WH or the Justice Department

is this a thread about the President or about Jo?

Good point, I have been noticing how these TDS sufferers have been able to hijack any topic here lately. I guess when Trump lives in your head, you can't ignore him. BTW, I don't think Biden will personally come for your guns--he'll try to use some underhanded nefarious end around to get them--you know the lying, cheating democrat way!

it certainly worked in the "election"

 

[TW2020]

No one is coming for your guns, dumbass.

Tell that to the thousands of blacks in jail for gun possession in urban cities

 

[washamericom]

just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..

It probably won't be unlike when they went door to door in New Orleans after Katrina. The streets were lawless and they searched each house to take any guns they found.

Yep, there was a huge lawsuit and settlement after the dust settled but, if you could not prove a gun was yours, New Orleans kept the weapon.

schoolbus ray nagan.. heh

 

[BLUE COLLAR]

just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..

Idiot Biden says he wants to take your assault weapons,(AR15 is one). It won't be easy.
If you already have it, it will be tough to take it legally.

An AR15 is not an assault weapon.

The AR-15 is an assault weapon for use in war. The correct German word for this kind of weapon is "Maschinenkarabiner". Who owns such a weapon or sells such a weapon in Germany (for private use) risks to go to jail for up to 10 years. And this law makes a lot of sense. I read for example from a shooting in the USA, where policemen were directly in front, when the shooting started. They reacted very well and very fast in the best of all possible ways under this extreme pressure. Nevertheless some people had to die before they were able to shoot down the killer.

And again, you don't know what you are talking about.

The AR-15 is a civilian rifle....it has never been used by the US military.

The AR-15 is equivalent to the M16 guns of your forces. As I said: In Germany the correct word for this kind of weapon is "Maschinenkarabiner". All weapons in this kind of weapon are war weapons. Whether an army is using it or not is not the criterion. To own or to trade such weapons in Germany (for private use) means to risk to have to go into jail up to 10 years.

On the other hand......the pump action shotgun is an actual military weapon....in use right now by the US millitary around the world.

The bolt action rifle....is an actual military weapon....in use, right now, by the US military around the world......

Please.....try understanding the issues before you post.

no comment

someone said the German word for bra is Holdzemfromfloplin...
i'm kidding, are you in germany now ?
i love that you engage in english... anyone of multiple languages is ok with me. thank you.

"Maschinenkarabiner" = machine carbine

Nicht, nein and no.

I was issued an M16 in the US Military. It and an AR15 are both dangerous (I'm on your side) but they are not the same. Those who oppose you will brutalize you for your misunderstanding. I'm trying to help.

Do you know Kitzingen?

 

[washamericom]

... slavery didn't begin in America ...

Slavery died out in the Christian part of Europe - and it came back in America. So indeed began a new form of slavery in America. I would call this form a "machine minded" slavery.

By the way: Did you ever notice that the modern world very often calls human beings "consumers"? A consumer is part of a machine.

i know bernie calls the incometax providers
"the workers".. fuckin sick that bastard uses my beloved Vermont as political fuel for his twist ends justifiy the means... i hope he dies quickly..

I never will understand why US-Americans always lose their not existing contenance in case someone shares not their opinions. What's wrong with the expression "the worker"? The Gregorian idea "Ora et labora (et lege), Deus adest sine mora" made the western world to the leading culture of the world. Only the people, who try to make slaves out of others, are a real problem. And "be my personal slave" is what Donald Trump called "loyalite". Be happy that he lost and you never will know what had happened otherwise in the next years, decades or even centuries. It will be difficult to repair what Donlad Trump had done - and Mr. president Joe Biden seems to be a diligent man.

And death, undear unfriend, is never a solution of real problems. Learn to listen to your 'enemies' - they are your best teachers - specially in case they are right and you are wrong.

have you seen metropolis Trotsky ? (fritz lang)

bernie is a communist & says "the worker".. stialin marx, lennon, kim jong un... etc.

You compare John Lennon and Joe Biden with the psychopathic mass murderer Stalin and the autocratic supercriminal monster in the third generation of leading monsters Kim Yong Un? Buy a new brain.

ahh.. sorry Vladamir not john... karl not groucho

my brain is fine. i'm keeping it.

Sigh. Perhaps I should sell weapons - but better never to sell an exchange brain instead to sell only one bullet to the wrong person.

wardogs is a great movie, charlie wilson's war too !

 

[washamericom]

And yet, we have an oligarchy and are slaves while mistakenly thinking we have democratic representation.

If you make yourselve to a slave then you are a slave. But an extremistic opinion makes you not to a slave. The most people wiLl just simple not share the nonsense, which you say.

Ask yourself what kind of system is like this:

1) Corporations and corporate PACs comprise most funding for most candidates of either party.
2) Elected officials neither write the legislation they present nor fully read what they pass, but corporate think tanks do the writing instead.
3) Both parties routinely bail out corporations, enter unnecessary wars, and spend far more than the government collects with no concern at all for inflation.
4) Most mainstream media is owned by the same corporations that own the politicians.

Would you describe that as a democracy?

Democratic action plays a role but for the better part, we are a plutocracy (power derived from wealth). Trumpism introduced fascism as a serious player in American Politics. Despite this term often being misused hereabouts (as a slur tied to commie), fascism is right handed, a hyper brand of nationalism with an authoritarian at it's head.

Trump wasn't authoritarian though. He took a states' rights approach to a lot of things, like COVID restrictions. An actual authoritarian would have exercised a lot of federal authority. Trump was more active regarding certain forms of economic protectionism, but that actually makes him very similar to old school Democrats (like FDR and Truman).

Nationalism itself isn't fascist. Fascism requires pretty heavy handed federal control over society. A much better example of it would be China's government.

Trump's attempt to overthrow an election was a serious authoritarian move as was his misuse of the Justice Department.

He did neither thing........his legal actions to fight unConstitutional actions in various states that changed election law illegally were not authoritarian in any way.

It was obama, not Trump, who misused the DOJ.....

No, that part was just a misguided waste of donations.

But you overlook his intent, the dumbass thing that was done on Jan 6th. The Senate is charged with counting the electoral votes (a formality) and signing off. What Trump wanted was to change the electoral vote, and thereby retain the WH.

Trump wanted to respect/recognize the elector count.

 

[BLUE COLLAR]

And yet, we have an oligarchy and are slaves while mistakenly thinking we have democratic representation.

If you make yourselve to a slave then you are a slave. But an extremistic opinion makes you not to a slave. The most people wiLl just simple not share the nonsense, which you say.

Ask yourself what kind of system is like this:

1) Corporations and corporate PACs comprise most funding for most candidates of either party.
2) Elected officials neither write the legislation they present nor fully read what they pass, but corporate think tanks do the writing instead.
3) Both parties routinely bail out corporations, enter unnecessary wars, and spend far more than the government collects with no concern at all for inflation.
4) Most mainstream media is owned by the same corporations that own the politicians.

Would you describe that as a democracy?

Democratic action plays a role but for the better part, we are a plutocracy (power derived from wealth). Trumpism introduced fascism as a serious player in American Politics. Despite this term often being misused hereabouts (as a slur tied to commie), fascism is right handed, a hyper brand of nationalism with an authoritarian at it's head.

Trump wasn't authoritarian though. He took a states' rights approach to a lot of things, like COVID restrictions. An actual authoritarian would have exercised a lot of federal authority. Trump was more active regarding certain forms of economic protectionism, but that actually makes him very similar to old school Democrats (like FDR and Truman).

Nationalism itself isn't fascist. Fascism requires pretty heavy handed federal control over society. A much better example of it would be China's government.

Trump's attempt to overthrow an election was a serious authoritarian move as was his misuse of the Justice Department.

He did neither thing........his legal actions to fight unConstitutional actions in various states that changed election law illegally were not authoritarian in any way.

It was obama, not Trump, who misused the DOJ.....

No, that part was just a misguided waste of donations.

But you overlook his intent, the dumbass thing that was done on Jan 6th. The Senate is charged with counting the electoral votes (a formality) and signing off. What Trump wanted was to change the electoral vote, and thereby retain the WH.

Trump wanted to respect/recognize the elector count.

That's not what Mike Pence said.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

No one is coming for your guns, dumbass.

Beto O'Rourke admitted otherwise.
Remember him?

There are various ways the left has to eliminate guns incrementally. They can't outlaw them all at once, of course.
They even have floated plans to tax bullets out of existence.

I don't actually own a gun, anymore. But I recognize the patterns that the left moves in.
They are largely Marxists who don't recognize right or wrong. They only care about getting
their way once they've fixed their reptilian minds on a goal.

 

[2aguy]

Who need guns? Nearly never anyone. Who misuses guns? Nearly always everyone.

Ummmm....no.

Americans bought more guns and even more Americans now carry guns for self defense......and what happened while this was going on for the last 27 years?

Gun murder went down 49%.......showing you don't know what you are talking about.

Gun crime went down 75%.......showing you don't know what you are talking about.

Gun accidental death went down....showing you don't know what you are talking about.

You feel things about guns....and then you think that makes them true and accurate.....they are not.

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


From the CDC.....

Accidental Gun deaths...

1999.....824
2000.....776
2001.....802
2002.....762
2003.....730
2004.....649
2005.....789
2006.....642
2007.....613
2008.....592
2009.....554
2010.....606
2011.....591
2012.....548
2013.....505
2014.....461
2015.....489
2016.....495
2017.....486
2018.....458

In 2020 died 19,276 persons in the USA because of guns. Hurted from guns were 39,379 persons. 5.103 from the killed and hurted persons were under 18 years.

The killing rate in the USA is more than 7 times (=700%) higher than in Germany and about 25 times (2500%) higher than in Japan.

That number isn't accurate...since to get it you have to add in suicides....and of the ones murdered with guns, the vast majority, 70-80% are criminals murdered by other criminals....

And of the 1500 or so innocents murdered with guns? The majority of those are friends and family of criminals caught up in the criminal lifestyle of their friends and family....

Meanwhile...Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop violent rapes, robberies and murders....according to the Centers for Disease Control...

And on top of that.....normal people owning and carrying guns does not increase the gun crime rate, the gun murder rate or the violent crime rate......so gun ownership isn't the issue...

Our issue is one political party, that keeps letting known, repeat, violent criminals out of jail and prison over and over again...it is the criminals released by this political party that cause 95% of our gun crime....

You don't know the issues....

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[2aguy]

just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..

Idiot Biden says he wants to take your assault weapons,(AR15 is one). It won't be easy.
If you already have it, it will be tough to take it legally.

An AR15 is not an assault weapon.

The AR-15 is an assault weapon for use in war. The correct German word for this kind of weapon is "Maschinenkarabiner". Who owns such a weapon or sells such a weapon in Germany (for private use) risks to go to jail for up to 10 years. And this law makes a lot of sense. I read for example from a shooting in the USA, where policemen were directly in front, when the shooting started. They reacted very well and very fast in the best of all possible ways under this extreme pressure. Nevertheless some people had to die before they were able to shoot down the killer.

And again, you don't know what you are talking about.

The AR-15 is a civilian rifle....it has never been used by the US military.

The AR-15 is equivalent to the M16 guns of your forces. As I said: In Germany the correct word for this kind of weapon is "Maschinenkarabiner". All weapons in this kind of weapon are war weapons. Whether an army is using it or not is not the criterion. To own or to trade such weapons in Germany (for private use) means to risk to have to go into jail up to 10 years.

On the other hand......the pump action shotgun is an actual military weapon....in use right now by the US millitary around the world.

The bolt action rifle....is an actual military weapon....in use, right now, by the US military around the world......

Please.....try understanding the issues before you post.

no comment

The AR-15 is not the same as the M-16 or M-4....they are not the same weapon....

The AR-15 is a civilian rifle....20 million of them in private hands.........and they are used to kill fewer people in this country than knives or empty hands........

Your fixation on that rifle is irrational and stupid.

Again....

The AR-15 is not used by our military.....the pump action shotgun is actually used by our military, so the pump action shotgun is a military weapon, the AR-15 is not.

 

[2aguy]

And yet, we have an oligarchy and are slaves while mistakenly thinking we have democratic representation.

If you make yourselve to a slave then you are a slave. But an extremistic opinion makes you not to a slave. The most people wiLl just simple not share the nonsense, which you say.

Ask yourself what kind of system is like this:

1) Corporations and corporate PACs comprise most funding for most candidates of either party.
2) Elected officials neither write the legislation they present nor fully read what they pass, but corporate think tanks do the writing instead.
3) Both parties routinely bail out corporations, enter unnecessary wars, and spend far more than the government collects with no concern at all for inflation.
4) Most mainstream media is owned by the same corporations that own the politicians.

Would you describe that as a democracy?

Democratic action plays a role but for the better part, we are a plutocracy (power derived from wealth). Trumpism introduced fascism as a serious player in American Politics. Despite this term often being misused hereabouts (as a slur tied to commie), fascism is right handed, a hyper brand of nationalism with an authoritarian at it's head.

Trump wasn't authoritarian though. He took a states' rights approach to a lot of things, like COVID restrictions. An actual authoritarian would have exercised a lot of federal authority. Trump was more active regarding certain forms of economic protectionism, but that actually makes him very similar to old school Democrats (like FDR and Truman).

Nationalism itself isn't fascist. Fascism requires pretty heavy handed federal control over society. A much better example of it would be China's government.

Trump's attempt to overthrow an election was a serious authoritarian move as was his misuse of the Justice Department.

He did neither thing........his legal actions to fight unConstitutional actions in various states that changed election law illegally were not authoritarian in any way.

It was obama, not Trump, who misused the DOJ.....

No, that part was just a misguided waste of donations.

But you overlook his intent, the dumbass thing that was done on Jan 6th. The Senate is charged with counting the electoral votes (a formality) and signing off. What Trump wanted was to change the electoral vote, and thereby retain the WH.

Which was his legal right to do..........he followed the law, the democrat party judges who changed election law acted against the Constitution, not Trump.

 

[BLUE COLLAR]

And yet, we have an oligarchy and are slaves while mistakenly thinking we have democratic representation.

If you make yourselve to a slave then you are a slave. But an extremistic opinion makes you not to a slave. The most people wiLl just simple not share the nonsense, which you say.

Ask yourself what kind of system is like this:

1) Corporations and corporate PACs comprise most funding for most candidates of either party.
2) Elected officials neither write the legislation they present nor fully read what they pass, but corporate think tanks do the writing instead.
3) Both parties routinely bail out corporations, enter unnecessary wars, and spend far more than the government collects with no concern at all for inflation.
4) Most mainstream media is owned by the same corporations that own the politicians.

Would you describe that as a democracy?

Democratic action plays a role but for the better part, we are a plutocracy (power derived from wealth). Trumpism introduced fascism as a serious player in American Politics. Despite this term often being misused hereabouts (as a slur tied to commie), fascism is right handed, a hyper brand of nationalism with an authoritarian at it's head.

Trump wasn't authoritarian though. He took a states' rights approach to a lot of things, like COVID restrictions. An actual authoritarian would have exercised a lot of federal authority. Trump was more active regarding certain forms of economic protectionism, but that actually makes him very similar to old school Democrats (like FDR and Truman).

Nationalism itself isn't fascist. Fascism requires pretty heavy handed federal control over society. A much better example of it would be China's government.

Trump's attempt to overthrow an election was a serious authoritarian move as was his misuse of the Justice Department.

He did neither thing........his legal actions to fight unConstitutional actions in various states that changed election law illegally were not authoritarian in any way.

It was obama, not Trump, who misused the DOJ.....

No, that part was just a misguided waste of donations.

But you overlook his intent, the dumbass thing that was done on Jan 6th. The Senate is charged with counting the electoral votes (a formality) and signing off. What Trump wanted was to change the electoral vote, and thereby retain the WH.

Which was his legal right to do..........he followed the law, the democrat party judges who changed election law acted against the Constitution, not Trump.

Some of the judges who dismissed his suits were conservative, some were appointed by him, and further, the SC refused his conjecture.

That there is always some failure in vote counting is a reflection of our imperfection, but it's not exclusive to one side of the aisle and there is no evidence of widespread fraud. None.

 

[Markle]

just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..

It probably won't be unlike when they went door to door in New Orleans after Katrina. The streets were lawless and they searched each house to take any guns they found.

Yep, there was a huge lawsuit and settlement after the dust settled but, if you could not prove a gun was yours, New Orleans kept the weapon.

They'd get shot to pieces pretty quick.

Probably if it is national but no one put up any resistance in New Orleans.

 

[kaz]

... slavery didn't begin in America ...

Slavery died out in the Christian part of Europe - and it came back in America. So indeed began a new form of slavery in America. I would call this form a "machine minded" slavery.

By the way: Did you ever notice that the modern world very often calls human beings "consumers"? A consumer is part of a machine.

Just FYI, slavery still widely exists, particularly in Asia and Africa.

In the USA, Democrats want to end their own freedom and be slaves to government, it's bizarre

They still have slavery in this nation--sex trafficking

True. Good point. And the Democrats are enabling it with their open border policies and that they keep kidnapped children with their abductors

 

[2aguy]

And yet, we have an oligarchy and are slaves while mistakenly thinking we have democratic representation.

If you make yourselve to a slave then you are a slave. But an extremistic opinion makes you not to a slave. The most people wiLl just simple not share the nonsense, which you say.

Ask yourself what kind of system is like this:

1) Corporations and corporate PACs comprise most funding for most candidates of either party.
2) Elected officials neither write the legislation they present nor fully read what they pass, but corporate think tanks do the writing instead.
3) Both parties routinely bail out corporations, enter unnecessary wars, and spend far more than the government collects with no concern at all for inflation.
4) Most mainstream media is owned by the same corporations that own the politicians.

Would you describe that as a democracy?

Democratic action plays a role but for the better part, we are a plutocracy (power derived from wealth). Trumpism introduced fascism as a serious player in American Politics. Despite this term often being misused hereabouts (as a slur tied to commie), fascism is right handed, a hyper brand of nationalism with an authoritarian at it's head.

Trump wasn't authoritarian though. He took a states' rights approach to a lot of things, like COVID restrictions. An actual authoritarian would have exercised a lot of federal authority. Trump was more active regarding certain forms of economic protectionism, but that actually makes him very similar to old school Democrats (like FDR and Truman).

Nationalism itself isn't fascist. Fascism requires pretty heavy handed federal control over society. A much better example of it would be China's government.

Trump's attempt to overthrow an election was a serious authoritarian move as was his misuse of the Justice Department.

He did neither thing........his legal actions to fight unConstitutional actions in various states that changed election law illegally were not authoritarian in any way.

It was obama, not Trump, who misused the DOJ.....

No, that part was just a misguided waste of donations.

But you overlook his intent, the dumbass thing that was done on Jan 6th. The Senate is charged with counting the electoral votes (a formality) and signing off. What Trump wanted was to change the electoral vote, and thereby retain the WH.

Which was his legal right to do..........he followed the law, the democrat party judges who changed election law acted against the Constitution, not Trump.

Some of the judges who dismissed his suits were conservative, some were appointed by him, and further, the SC refused his conjecture.

That there is always some failure in vote counting is a reflection of our imperfection, but it's not exclusive to one side of the aisle and there is no evidence of widespread fraud. None.

It wan't widespread, it was highly targeted to certain swing state voting districts controlled by the democrat party.

 

[kaz]

... slavery didn't begin in America ...

Slavery died out in the Christian part of Europe - and it came back in America. So indeed began a new form of slavery in America. I would call this form a "machine minded" slavery.

By the way: Did you ever notice that the modern world very often calls human beings "consumers"? A consumer is part of a machine.

Just FYI, slavery still widely exists, particularly in Asia and Africa.

In the USA, Democrats want to end their own freedom and be slaves to government, it's bizarre

In a democracy no one is a slave of the government - everyone is the government.

Grow the fuck up. First, "everyone" isn't the government, only the majority. We the minority are road kill to an oppressively majority tyranny who freely rob us and remove our liberty.

And yes, Democrats think that you can create a ubiquitous government and keep it subservient to them as it becomes ever more powerful. They are fools.

And more basically, in the meantime Democrats are constantly giving up their freedom to be cared for because government is smarter than they are