Zone1 How will the Third Temple be rebuilt? | Past, Preset and Future

[shimon]

The actual building of the Temple is NOT the issue. That's the least of the problems as I have outlined.

It's the site issues, internal issues, and external issues that are the real problems with building the Temple.

Not really… Nothing has changed … When the Jews returned from Babylon/ Persia they faced many obstacles ironically the Samarians and others stood in their way they still managed to build it albeit it took a long time but today is different with the modern technologies such as bulldozers etc etc and Israel has a strong army… Just the will to do it is all that is needed…They have excellent engineers if high rises towering a thousand feet or more can be built in sandy areas like Dubai then a 200 foot high temple can be easily managed with proper site preparation…

 

[shimon]

Solomon had Beelzebub and his demons build the first temple, but Bibi will probably need a lot of US cash and weapons. Right now, he's using the White House as a temporary tabernacle until then.

You have things backwards … Israel and the United States have a symbiotic relationship of give and take.. Israel has shared many things with the US just as has the US with Israel… What part of jerUSAlem do you not get…. As for Demons they were originally idols made of wood and stone etc etc… The temple was not allowed to have any of those detestable things… What praytell are these demons you are talking about …

 

[JohnDB]

Not really… Nothing has changed … When the Jews returned from Babylon/ Persia they faced many obstacles ironically the Samarians and others stood in their way they still managed to build it albeit it took a long time but today is different with the modern technologies such as bulldozers etc etc and Israel has a strong army… Just the will to do it is all that is needed…They have excellent engineers if high rises towering a thousand feet or more can be built in sandy areas like Dubai then a 200 foot high temple can be easily managed with proper site preparation…

Ok...
You need to explain how they are going to overcome the instant turmoil over the Tribe identifications, (someone from Ephraim in leadership instead of Judah)

The site being seismically unstable requiring CAREFUL DECONSTRUCTION and stabilization by LEVITES.

The entire Muslim world up in arms about making Mohammed out to be a false prophet.

You cannot just gloss over these things. That's mashugana.

 

[rosends]

There exists one other little problem....

The identity of the Levites (a Caste of Jews)
Only Levites are supposed to work on the Temple mount and do the work of building the Temple. No others are allowed.

Now in order to identify the Levites....several DNA samples are necessary of original Levites to make a standard....then genetic testing for the other Castes/tribes.

Which WILL cause internal political issues as ONLY those from the Tribe of Judah is allowed to rule or be a part of the ruling class.

Which will cause all sorts of issues internally in the tiny nation. Then there's the issues of international marriages and those outside of Jewish nationality. (Gotta have 14 generations past the inclusion of a Gentile)

Any and all of this will create a huge amount of internal strife and division inside the Jewish community. Then there's the resulting power struggles within the nation as a result. Almost making them defenseless while ALL the Muslims in the world will be seeking the complete destruction of the Jews for making Mohammed an obvious false prophet (as if that has not already happened) .

Mohammed prophesied that Israel will never again exist.

It has since 1948. But they claim that since the Temple has not been rebuilt they don't really exist....it's just a collection of Jews. (An obvious excuse....but whatever....I'm not a Muslim)

the problems you fear won't be an issue. We have this all worked out.

 

[the watcher]

In the Testament of Solomon, dead sea scrolls, it mentions a ring given to Solomon to rid demons and they were used to build the 1st temple. A lot of these books were not incorporated into the catholic bible but are still in the Ethiopian bible. Testament of Solomon - Wikipedia

 

[shimon]

Ok...
You need to explain how they are going to overcome the instant turmoil over the Tribe identifications, (someone from Ephraim in leadership instead of Judah)

The site being seismically unstable requiring CAREFUL DECONSTRUCTION and stabilization by LEVITES.

The entire Muslim world up in arms about making Mohammed out to be a false prophet.

You cannot just gloss over these things. That's mashugana.

Tribal affiliations can be figured out by DNA… There are also genetic markers…Many people have kept records of their family heritages… Most levites today know they are levites because it is passed down from father to son so this is a non issue and dna testing can verify it…As I stated before with modern methods the land can be stabilized in various ways….As for the Muslim world it says in their own book that the land of Israel belongs to the Jews and also the Allah gives land to who he wills so if they can’t defeat Israelites his will…Besides In the Middle East they respect strength .. If Israel builds the temple they are showing strength and leadership.. It might be counter intuitive but by building it then Israel willgain more respect not less… Radicals are always around and they were always used in wars to kill them off… Leaders of countries always sent the hotheads to die in foreign wars so they could not overthrow them at home … It is called letting off steam.. With today’s modern weapons and with what is coming down the line with robotics and AI the radicals days are numbered…

 

[JohnDB]

the problems you fear won't be an issue. We have this all worked out.

Exactly how are these "just worked out"?

I'm not fearing them...far from it.

But these are huge, earth shaking hurdles that have NOT been worked out in any fashion.

 

[JohnDB]

Tribal affiliations can be figured out by DNA… There are also genetic markers…Many people have kept records of their family heritages… Most levites today know they are levites because it is passed down from father to son so this is a non issue and dna testing can verify it…As I stated before with modern methods the land can be stabilized in various ways….As for the Muslim world it says in their own book that the land of Israel belongs to the Jews and also the Allah gives land to who he wills so if they can’t defeat Israelites his will…Besides In the Middle East they respect strength .. If Israel builds the temple they are showing strength and leadership.. It might be counter intuitive but by building it then Israel willgain more respect not less… Radicals are always around and they were always used in wars to kill them off… Leaders of countries always sent the hotheads to die in foreign wars so they could not overthrow them at home … It is called letting off steam.. With today’s modern weapons and with what is coming down the line with robotics and AI the radicals days are numbered…

That's glossing....

Like I've said before,
These are hurdles not impenetrable walls.

It's one thing to show strength to make Muslims respect Israel. It's another thing to demonstrate Mohammed was a false prophet. Where there are not that many radical Muslims....in the poor, inbred nations that Muslims come from it is not difficult to make all you need of waves of suicide bombers....not just a few isolated bombers as they currently use hidden among the population. But waves after waves all looking for their 70 virgins and the gratitude of Mohammed.

 

[rosends]

Exactly how are these "just worked out"?

when the messiah comes, we will have a mechanism to confirm a claim of priesthood. And non-priests were involved in the construction in the past. Why not in the future?

 

[shimon]

That's glossing....

Like I've said before,
These are hurdles not impenetrable walls.

It's one thing to show strength to make Muslims respect Israel. It's another thing to demonstrate Mohammed was a false prophet. Where there are not that many radical Muslims....in the poor, inbred nations that Muslims come from it is not difficult to make all you need of waves of suicide bombers....not just a few isolated bombers as they currently use hidden among the population. But waves after waves all looking for their 70 virgins and the gratitude of Mohammed.

The technology is available and Israel can adapt and overcome to develop ways that make then sick or immobile so they can be taken in before they do harm… Besides if they are looking for 70 virgins you are short changing them 2 virgins… They could be given the option of living in a video game where they get even more virgins if that is what they want because we can show them some compasion… Video games are becoming so realistic that people soon will not be able to tell what Is real and what is not…Think of it this way if an addict instead of consuming drugs is hooked up to a machine that goes to his pleasure centres in his brain he will get his fix unfortunately he willeventually die from not eating or drinking but he will not harm society and is causing his own death but he gets what he wants… They same could be done with those with terrorist tendencies…

 

[BreezeWood]

I do not believe the Third Temple should be built unless the Ark of the Covenant is located, sent to Israel, and its identity is verified.

blessed be to the choir -

how, they were destroyed by the heretic moses before ever being witnessed ... the claimed heavenly etched tablets w/ 10 commandments, being their, the desert religions primary proof of the supernatural affiliation w/ their religions.

 

[JohnDB]

when the messiah comes, we will have a mechanism to confirm a claim of priesthood. And non-priests were involved in the construction in the past. Why not in the future?

NOT on site....onsite MUST be Levites because the TEMPLE is their stated inheritance. Others may "help" the Levites but they do the work. A Levite is not always a priest but a priest is always a Levite.

 

[rosends]

NOT on site....onsite MUST be Levites because the TEMPLE is their stated inheritance. Others may "help" the Levites but they do the work. A Levite is not always a priest but a priest is always a Levite.

you are confused. The Levites were responsible for the work in the temple once it was built, but there was no rule stopping others from doing the construction.

 

[BreezeWood]

you are confused. The Levites were responsible for the work in the temple once it was built, but there was no rule stopping others from doing the construction.

- are you a lesser than a levite - so sad ... maybe that's the point for when the temple is to be rebuilt - when jews disassociate the heavens from their tribe.

how can its construction not be by the entire community, who the temple represents ... the 1st century itinerant saw the corruption for what it was and knew better not to speak up. same today whatever they call anti-semitism is just a cop-out.

 

[JohnDB]

you are confused. The Levites were responsible for the work in the temple once it was built, but there was no rule stopping others from doing the construction.

Is it built today?

 

[rosends]

Is it built today?

nope

 

[hobelim]

Is it built today?

The "Sanctuary of God" is already in existence but, like Divine providence, cannot be made by human hands.

 

[JohnDB]

The "Sanctuary of God" is already in existence but, like Divine providence, cannot be made by human hands.

The Temple here on Earth was ALWAYS a "shadow" of the real one in Heaven....

However, because of the close resemblance....there exists strict protocols. Those protocols are not for God's benefit but for ours.

Something that holy has a very reactive effect when in contact with error. Which is why you do not screw around with such things.

 

[hobelim]

The Temple here on Earth was ALWAYS a "shadow" of the real one in Heaven....

Like Divine providence the sanctuary of God has ALWAYS been the reward of the righteous. The Law is the firmament (basis) of Heaven. Whoever fulfills the Laws demands enters the sanctuary of God while living on earth

Heaven has always been accessible to everyone on earth who understands the Laws demands. And does it.

“As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love." (the sanctuary of God)

 

[BreezeWood]

Something that holy has a very reactive effect when in contact with error.

good luck w/ that -

their concept is simply build a new temple for everything to become as it was - than why the last one was destroyed and the revisions to make a new one a true link to the heavens ... not again to their phony bible, false commandments, hereditary idolatry, religion of apartheid, heavenly personifications that never occurred - et al.