How Transgender Ideology Has Produced Large-Scale Child Abuse

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Lots of young children are being irreparably harmed thanks to failed left-wing policies.

Prior to the widespread promotion of transition affirmation, 75% to 95% of gender-dysphoric youth ended up happy with their biological sex after simply passing through puberty.

The left wants the mentally insane and small children make the decisions that drive society. It's absurd. It's asinine. And it's the type of idiocy that could only come from the left. Adults don't allow children to make major decisions about their life. You let them choose what flavor of lollipop. You let them choose what toy to pick out at the store. You do not allow them to choose gender reassignment surgery, or what city the family will live in, or what automobile to purchase.

I’m a Pediatrician. How Transgender Ideology Has Infiltrated My Field and Produced Large-Scale Child Abuse.

Can you actually document an instance where a young child who felt that he or she was transgender was allowed or encouraged to undergo irreversible gender reassignment? A word of caution: Do not confuse the issue of intersexuality- which is related to but different from- transsexuality . You might want to educate yourself on the issue before spouting off about it. I will add that even in the case of intersexuality- sometimes referred to and ambiguous genitalia- the trend is away from physical alteration to make the child into a male or female - before that child is old enough to know what he or she really is. You have a lot to learn Bubba,

 

[Seawytch]

Only parents and doctors used to make the decisions for innersexed children. The children didn't get to make the decision which gender they wanted to be.

As long as the individual in question is actually involved in the decision, it's none of your or my business.

As for suicide...rates of suicide are higher in LGBT youth than for the average youth. Hmmmm...why could that be? Well, let's look at some facts...

Each episode of LGBT victimization, such as physical or verbal harassment or abuse, increases the likelihood of self-harming behavior by 2.5 times on average.

LGB youth who come from highly rejecting families are 8.4 times as likely to have attempted suicide as LGB peers who reported no or low levels of family rejection.

Facts About Suicide

Intervenable factors associated with suicide risk in transgender persons: a respondent driven sampling study in Ontario, Canada

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19361653.2014.910483

I know the stats. I am an advocate and a GAL. We have NOT found the fix. This process stunts brain development FFS!!!!! It is NOT approved for this use because it is DANGEROUS and the very very very minimal reward (very slightly reduced mental illness, suicide, domestic violence and addiction but within the margin of error so statistically null) is NOT worth the very real known risks and the unknown risks because we have not studied the effects on children. Do you not understand that this is experimental trials on children?!?! Parents are desperate to make their children happy. You are misleading them into thinking this works, is reversible and is harmless. It does not work, is dangerous and harmful, and most of the effects are not reversible.

For you, the movement is all important. You obviously are willing to experiment on children if the end result is reaching "enlightenment" faster. Safety measures like approval processes for experimental human trials be damned!!! The ends justify the means and all that feel-good progressive BS. For me, each child is precious and not to be experimented on to further any movement. ANY child subjected to this unapproved experimentation should be able to sue the pants off his doctor. In 20 years, there will be a wave of horror stories, just as there have been for intersexed children.

You keep pretending this is safe, reversible and it works in order to push your movement. Lots of people are willing to sacrifice many children for the cause. I'm just not one of them. You don't even know all of the risks, just the ones we've confirmed so far. You do know the success rate is abysmal if you include quality of life in any way. It just doesn't matter to you. It's like healthcare. Lots of people think, "I don't care how bad it is, at least it is a start!" You may not admit that's what the sentiment is here, but it is pretty clear. The results suck, but keep pushing it because eventually, after Lord knows how many children ruined, we'll get it right ... just like socialism and healthcare and equality ... and the victims pile up.

Except you've provided no data on "how bad it is". I, on the other hand, have provided link after link from credible medical associations.

You provided links stating they have a high rate of suicide, higher if subjected to cruelty. I have asked for your proof that puberty blockers reduce this suicide rate, addiction rate, depression rate and domestic violence rate. You repeatedly ignore that request and mock or deflect instead.

Are these drugs being used in the manner they are approved for use? NO

Have these combinations (or even individual components) been tested for long term effects in children? NO

Do we even know the consequences? NO

Is it largely being billed as safe, reversible and harmless? YES

Experimental trials on children without the approval to do so. Condescend all you want, but that is what you are pushing.

Uh no, I've provided other links from credible organizations. This one, especially, addresses puberty blockers.

Transgender youth fact check: Blaire White is wrong – Part 1: Fundamentals

Trans children receive these injections or implants regularly for years in order to hold off these changes. This allows more time for them to be evaluated frequently by medical and psychological professionals and helps children be certain of whether they ultimately want to transition. If they choose not to transition, they can stop taking puberty blockers at any time, and their initial puberty will simply resume and continue normally. This is why the medical field, including the American Academy of Pediatrics (2015) and the American Psychiatric Association (Byne et al., 2012), classifies these blockers as fully reversible. These are safe medications that have been in use among both trans and cis children for decades now.

Again, puberty blockers are not hormones. They stop hormones. If, after this time on puberty blockers, a teenager does choose to transition, they can start taking estrogen or testosterone at age 16. These hormones do produce more permanent changes that are not necessarily reversible. While Blaire White describes this as “really, really early”, keep in mind that this treatment results in a puberty that occurs years later than it usually would, along with being subject to ongoing medical monitoring and control.

There are others who also have expertise on this topic, such as major medical organizations and many hospitals. In addition to the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Psychiatric Association, the proper use of puberty blockers for trans youth is also supported by:

• 
  
  
  • The American Psychological Association (2015)
  • The American College of Osteopathic Pediatricians (Wyckoff, 2016)
  • The American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry (Adelson & AACAP CQI, 2012)
  • The American Academy of Family Physicians (2014)
  • The Endocrine Society (Hembree et al., 2009)
  • The World Professional Association for Transgender Health (Coleman et al., 2011)

What reduces the risk of suicide is not being rejected by friends and family.

They can't say it is reversible when used for this purpose because they don't know. This IS the human trials.

When Transgender Kids Transition, Medical Risks are Both Known and Unknown

"However, the use of puberty blockers to treat transgender children is what’s considered an “off label” use of the medication — something that hasn’t been approved by the Food and Drug Administration. And doctors say their biggest concern is about how long children stay on the medication, because there isn’t enough research into the effects of stalling puberty at the age when children normally go through it.

...snipped section on bone loss...

Another area where doctors say there isn’t enough research is the impact that suppressing puberty has on brain development.

“The bottom line is we don’t really know how sex hormones impact any adolescent’s brain development,” Dr. Lisa Simons, a pediatrician at Lurie Children’s, told FRONTLINE. “We know that there’s a lot of brain development between childhood and adulthood, but it’s not clear what’s behind that.” What’s lacking, she said, are specific studies that look at the neurocognitive effects of puberty blockers.

Claiming this is safe is a lie. Progressives think it is worth the roll of the dice because they believe it will work, despite the evidence showing the end result is statistically no better than no medical intervention. We could be ruining these children. We likely are. The ends do not justify the means for many of us.

Mock, condescend, look down your nose at us Neanderthals, whatever. I'm not the one performing unnapproved medical experiments on children.

The individuals and their parents and doctors weigh the risks and decide on the treatment, not YOU. (Thank goodness)

 

[Tresha91203]

I know the stats. I am an advocate and a GAL. We have NOT found the fix. This process stunts brain development FFS!!!!! It is NOT approved for this use because it is DANGEROUS and the very very very minimal reward (very slightly reduced mental illness, suicide, domestic violence and addiction but within the margin of error so statistically null) is NOT worth the very real known risks and the unknown risks because we have not studied the effects on children. Do you not understand that this is experimental trials on children?!?! Parents are desperate to make their children happy. You are misleading them into thinking this works, is reversible and is harmless. It does not work, is dangerous and harmful, and most of the effects are not reversible.

For you, the movement is all important. You obviously are willing to experiment on children if the end result is reaching "enlightenment" faster. Safety measures like approval processes for experimental human trials be damned!!! The ends justify the means and all that feel-good progressive BS. For me, each child is precious and not to be experimented on to further any movement. ANY child subjected to this unapproved experimentation should be able to sue the pants off his doctor. In 20 years, there will be a wave of horror stories, just as there have been for intersexed children.

You keep pretending this is safe, reversible and it works in order to push your movement. Lots of people are willing to sacrifice many children for the cause. I'm just not one of them. You don't even know all of the risks, just the ones we've confirmed so far. You do know the success rate is abysmal if you include quality of life in any way. It just doesn't matter to you. It's like healthcare. Lots of people think, "I don't care how bad it is, at least it is a start!" You may not admit that's what the sentiment is here, but it is pretty clear. The results suck, but keep pushing it because eventually, after Lord knows how many children ruined, we'll get it right ... just like socialism and healthcare and equality ... and the victims pile up.

Except you've provided no data on "how bad it is". I, on the other hand, have provided link after link from credible medical associations.

You provided links stating they have a high rate of suicide, higher if subjected to cruelty. I have asked for your proof that puberty blockers reduce this suicide rate, addiction rate, depression rate and domestic violence rate. You repeatedly ignore that request and mock or deflect instead.

Are these drugs being used in the manner they are approved for use? NO

Have these combinations (or even individual components) been tested for long term effects in children? NO

Do we even know the consequences? NO

Is it largely being billed as safe, reversible and harmless? YES

Experimental trials on children without the approval to do so. Condescend all you want, but that is what you are pushing.

Uh no, I've provided other links from credible organizations. This one, especially, addresses puberty blockers.

Transgender youth fact check: Blaire White is wrong – Part 1: Fundamentals

Trans children receive these injections or implants regularly for years in order to hold off these changes. This allows more time for them to be evaluated frequently by medical and psychological professionals and helps children be certain of whether they ultimately want to transition. If they choose not to transition, they can stop taking puberty blockers at any time, and their initial puberty will simply resume and continue normally. This is why the medical field, including the American Academy of Pediatrics (2015) and the American Psychiatric Association (Byne et al., 2012), classifies these blockers as fully reversible. These are safe medications that have been in use among both trans and cis children for decades now.

Again, puberty blockers are not hormones. They stop hormones. If, after this time on puberty blockers, a teenager does choose to transition, they can start taking estrogen or testosterone at age 16. These hormones do produce more permanent changes that are not necessarily reversible. While Blaire White describes this as “really, really early”, keep in mind that this treatment results in a puberty that occurs years later than it usually would, along with being subject to ongoing medical monitoring and control.

There are others who also have expertise on this topic, such as major medical organizations and many hospitals. In addition to the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Psychiatric Association, the proper use of puberty blockers for trans youth is also supported by:

• 
  
  
  • The American Psychological Association (2015)
  • The American College of Osteopathic Pediatricians (Wyckoff, 2016)
  • The American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry (Adelson & AACAP CQI, 2012)
  • The American Academy of Family Physicians (2014)
  • The Endocrine Society (Hembree et al., 2009)
  • The World Professional Association for Transgender Health (Coleman et al., 2011)

What reduces the risk of suicide is not being rejected by friends and family.

They can't say it is reversible when used for this purpose because they don't know. This IS the human trials.

When Transgender Kids Transition, Medical Risks are Both Known and Unknown

"However, the use of puberty blockers to treat transgender children is what’s considered an “off label” use of the medication — something that hasn’t been approved by the Food and Drug Administration. And doctors say their biggest concern is about how long children stay on the medication, because there isn’t enough research into the effects of stalling puberty at the age when children normally go through it.

...snipped section on bone loss...

Another area where doctors say there isn’t enough research is the impact that suppressing puberty has on brain development.

“The bottom line is we don’t really know how sex hormones impact any adolescent’s brain development,” Dr. Lisa Simons, a pediatrician at Lurie Children’s, told FRONTLINE. “We know that there’s a lot of brain development between childhood and adulthood, but it’s not clear what’s behind that.” What’s lacking, she said, are specific studies that look at the neurocognitive effects of puberty blockers.

Claiming this is safe is a lie. Progressives think it is worth the roll of the dice because they believe it will work, despite the evidence showing the end result is statistically no better than no medical intervention. We could be ruining these children. We likely are. The ends do not justify the means for many of us.

Mock, condescend, look down your nose at us Neanderthals, whatever. I'm not the one performing unnapproved medical experiments on children.

The individuals and their parents and doctors weigh the risks and decide on the treatment, not YOU. (Thank goodness)

It's being hyped as safe and reversible. It is neither. Puberty blockers stunt bone development, brain development and prevent the penis from maturing. None of those has proven reversible. Often, the penis is so small, the preferred transition surgery, the one hyped, cannot be performed.

Don't get me started on what's between you and your doctor. That's only the case for abortions and gender. My 70+ year old mother with a crumbling spine is being forced off pain meds that work because the government is waging one of its wars. They trump doctors all the time.

 

[P@triot]

Can you actually document an instance where a young child who felt that he or she was transgender was allowed or encouraged to undergo irreversible gender reassignment?

Yes sir. There have been dozens of cases recently. You really should check out the news every few months or so...

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Can you actually document an instance where a young child who felt that he or she was transgender was allowed or encouraged to undergo irreversible gender reassignment?

Yes sir. There have been dozens of cases recently. You really should check out the news every few months or so...

No bubba, You should really provide documentation for statements that you present as fact. Otherwise it is just an appeal to ignorance fallacy

 

[Seawytch]

Can you actually document an instance where a young child who felt that he or she was transgender was allowed or encouraged to undergo irreversible gender reassignment?

Yes sir. There have been dozens of cases recently. You really should check out the news every few months or so...

Link to these operations occurring.

 

[P@triot]

Can you actually document an instance where a young child who felt that he or she was transgender was allowed or encouraged to undergo irreversible gender reassignment?

Yes sir. There have been dozens of cases recently. You really should check out the news every few months or so...

Link to these operations occurring.

The next time a progressive is actually informed about a topic before speaking out about it will be the first time that has ever happened...

Sex-change treatment for kids on the rise

 

[P@triot]

You should really provide documentation for statements that you present as fact. Otherwise it is just an appeal to ignorance fallacy

You should really take off the bandana, shave, and grow up. The 60's are long over, maaaaaaan. Otherwise, you look like an old tool too desperate to accept his age or reality.

Oh - and by the way - the next time a progressive is actually informed about a topic before speaking out about it will be the first time that has ever happened...

Sex-change treatment for kids on the rise

 

[P@triot]

So what have we learned here today? That both Seawytch and ProgressivePatriot support shit that they are completely and totally uninformed about. And just think folks - they actually get to vote. No wonder their states are total shit holes. The U.S. would be too if it weren't for all of us conservatives constantly bailing the left out of their own mess.

Child starts gender transition before first day of kindergarten | Daily Mail Online

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

You should really provide documentation for statements that you present as fact. Otherwise it is just an appeal to ignorance fallacy

You should really take off the bandana, shave, and grow up. The 60's are long over, maaaaaaan. Otherwise, you look like an old tool too desperate to accept his age or reality.

Oh - and by the way - the next time a progressive is actually informed about a topic before speaking out about it will be the first time that has ever happened...

Sex-change treatment for kids on the rise

You think that I should grow up? You need to grow up. Drop the insults and personal attacks and deal with the issue in a rational way. You made the ridiculous statement in your OP that young children- dozens of them - have recently undergone gender reassignment SURGERURY. The article that you post here says nothing about surgery. It states TREATNMENT .

These are children who are tormented by feeling that they are in the body of the wrong gender and they are being listened to. From your link:

A small but growing number of teens and even younger children who think they were born the wrong sex are getting support from parents and from doctors who give them sex-changing treatments, according to reports in the medical journal Pediatrics.

The piece goes on ( did you even read it or did you just seize on the headline)?:

Pediatricians need to know these kids exist and deserve treatment, said Dr. Norman Spack, author of one of three reports published Monday and director of one of the nation's first gender identity medical clinics, at Children's Hospital Boston.

It goes on further:

Some are labeled with "gender identity disorder," a psychiatric diagnosis. But Spack is among doctors who think that's a misnomer. Emerging research suggests they may have brain differences more similar to the opposite sex.

And you ignore this, again from your own link:

It's harmful "to have an irreversible treatment too early," Moon said.

Doctors who provide the treatment say withholding it would be more harmful.

These children sometimes resort to self-mutilation to try to change their anatomy; the other two journal reports note that some face verbal and physical abuse and are prone to stress, depression and suicide attempts. Spack said those problems typically disappear in kids who've had treatment and are allowed to live as the opposite sex.

And we are not talking about irreversible treatment:

The drugs used by the clinics are approved for delaying puberty in kids who start maturing too soon. The drugs' effects are reversible, and Spack said they've caused no complications in his patients. The idea is to give these children time to mature emotionally and make sure they want to proceed with a permanent sex change. Only 1 of the 97 opted out of permanent treatment, Spack said.

So cut the dishonest crap already . I did not even have to do any research of my own to shoot you down. I just relied on your own source which you apparently did not read or understand. That is pretty pathetic.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

So what have we learned here today? That both Seawytch and ProgressivePatriot support shit that they are completely and totally uninformed about. And just think folks - they actually get to vote. No wonder their states are total shit holes. The U.S. would be too if it weren't for all of us conservatives constantly bailing the left out of their own mess.

Child starts gender transition before first day of kindergarten | Daily Mail Online

You need to really start thinking about this and cut the knee jerk horseshit. Start by considering the fact that we are talking about vulnerable children who need to be listened to. Read this with comprehension and comment intelligently if you can:

LGBT Issues, Children and Education by Progressive Patriot 3.27.15


Many people who rail against gay marriage and gay rights have deluded themselves into believing that if we do not support homosexuality and transgender phenomena , the issue will somehow go away. They claim that children will be taught that homosexuality is normal and good. Well know this, LGBT issues and people are a part of modern culture and depriving gays rights will not change that and you can’t shield the children from it.

Children always have and always will struggle with their developing sexuality including sexual orientation and gender identity issues. In the past, for the most part, children were left to try to understand these things alone and in silence. They would feel guilty and confused about any sexual matters and especially any LGBT issues. Today, there is much open discussion about these issues-in the print and social media, among peers, on television, just about everywhere. In this electronic society where kids spend much of their days on line, it cannot be avoided. Many children know an LGBT child or adult. Children hear and see this all, and like it or not, they are very much aware. As we progress as a society, more and more of that discussion is positive, and young people are much more accepting of those who are different than many adults care to imagine. There is nothing short of criminalizing these lifestyles, and snuffing out free speech-in effect becoming Russia-that anybody can do about it. Can anyone dispute or refute any part of this statement?

My next question is: What do parents, educators and the rest of us do? Here are some options:

1. Do nothing, be silent. Leave the children to their own devices to figure things out for themselves. After all, that’s the way it was 30, 40, 50 years ago and everything was just fine. Or was it? In any case, this is now, times are different and sexuality is a much more salient part of life and discourse. This may not be a great option, if it ever was.

2. Condemn homosexuality and transgender issues openly and vehemently. Doing so will have the effect of marginalizing LGBT kids, crushing them with guilt, and setting them up for bullying. Then all that will be left to do is to keep tract of the suicides and mass shootings.

3. Engage in constructive dialogue with the kids and among ourselves as adults. Dispense with the hysteria and misinformation and start to deal with this as part of our human experience. We could dispense with rhetoric about “promoting homosexuality and transgenderism
” and the scare tactics such as it leading to incest, polygamy and bestiality. Rather, the emphasis would be on human relations, not sex because relationships are really what it’s about. We could just let kids know that they are OK and loved no matter who and what they are…….because whatever they are, that’s what they are going to be. Maybe, just maybe it’s time to make a choice between ideology and religion on one hand, and the children that we claim to care so much about on the other. The only question is ….will they be happy, confident and secure, or guilt ridden, miserable and confused.

However, you still have those who want to pretend that the issue will just go away. That is ignorant and dangerous. Fortunately , one community had the good sense to know it is wrong and fought back:

Community Protests Attempt To Remove LGBT Information From Health Classes

Indian River, Delaware Board of Education member Shaun Fink wants to remove all LGBT references from school Health classes, saying he has "issues with teaching it's ok to be gay".
About 100 students, parents, members LGBT community and their straight allies turned up at a meeting of the Indian Rivers, Delaware, Board of Education meeting this week, hoping for a chance to speak. The protesters object to a move afoot by at least one board member to remove the terms gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender, from the district's Health curriculum.
Cole Haden, a senior at Sussex High School was visibly angry, locking eyes with Shaun Fink as he spoke:

"Mr. Fink, I would like to thank you for allowing me to have a chance to stand for LGBTQA equality and engage my peers in a conversation about fairness and tolerance, which you seemingly haven't contributed to. You have fueled a fire long waiting to erupt. However, I can't thank you too much, for as a LGBTQA student at Sussex Central High School, and the district that you heartly govern, you have done the school district and the community a great disservice by allowing your personal faith to interfere with your professional work."
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement...health_classes

 

[P@triot]

You made the ridiculous statement in your OP that young children- dozens of them - have recently undergone gender reassignment SURGERURY.

I made no such statement. Everyone can see my initial post. Seriously maaaaaan - less time smoking weed, more time learning to read.

 

[P@triot]

I did not even have to do any research of my own to shoot you down.

Thanks for playing...

It's harmful "to have an irreversible treatment too early," Moon said.

Doctors who provide the treatment say withholding it would be more harmful.

The bottom line? Only an asshole (ie a progressive) allows children to make major, life-altering decisions. A normal, rational adult, parents by making major decisions innthe best interest of the child, for the child.

 

[P@triot]

3. Engage in constructive dialogue with the kids and among ourselves as adults. Dispense with the hysteria and misinformation and start to deal with this as part of our human experience.

What is with the disingenuous nonsense? There is a monumental difference between "engaging in constructive dialogue" and allowing a 4 year old to decide that he needs boobs and a vagina at his age.

You're making a strawman. Nobody is arguing against your points. And none of your points have anything to do with the issue.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

You made the ridiculous statement in your OP that young children- dozens of them - have recently undergone gender reassignment SURGERURY.

I made no such statement. Everyone can see my initial post. Seriously maaaaaan - less time smoking weed, more time learning to read.

Equine Excrement!

I said "Can you actually document an instance where a young child who felt that he or she was transgender was allowed or encouraged to undergo irreversible gender reassignment?"

You said: "Yes sir. There have been dozens of cases recently. You really should check out the news every few months or so... "

And previously in the OP you stated "You do not allow them to choose gender reassignment surgery, or what city the family will live in, or what automobile to purchase"

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I did not even have to do any research of my own to shoot you down.

Thanks for playing...

It's harmful "to have an irreversible treatment too early," Moon said.

Doctors who provide the treatment say withholding it would be more harmful.

The bottom line? Only an asshole (ie a progressive) allows children to make major, life-altering decisions. A normal, rational adult, parents by making major decisions innthe best interest of the child, for the child.

Again you prove that you either did not read or were unable to comprehend the linked article that YOU posted in your OP, nor did you grasp my commentary on it.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

3. Engage in constructive dialogue with the kids and among ourselves as adults. Dispense with the hysteria and misinformation and start to deal with this as part of our human experience.

What is with the disingenuous nonsense? There is a monumental difference between "engaging in constructive dialogue" and allowing a 4 year old to decide that he needs boobs and a vagina at his age.

You're making a strawman. Nobody is arguing against your points. And none of your points have anything to do with the issue.

Your strawman! Who the **** is suggesting that a 4 year old undergo gender reassignment surgery. You are either illiterate or playing a sick and dishonest game here

 

[P@triot]

You made the ridiculous statement in your OP that young children- dozens of them - have recently undergone gender reassignment SURGERURY.

I made no such statement. Everyone can see my initial post. Seriously maaaaaan - less time smoking weed, more time learning to read.

Equine Excrement!

I said "Can you actually document an instance where a young child who felt that he or she was transgender was allowed or encouraged to undergo irreversible gender reassignment?"

You said: "Yes sir. There have been dozens of cases recently. You really should check out the news every few months or so... "

And previously in the OP you stated "You do not allow them to choose gender reassignment surgery, or what city the family will live in, or what automobile to purchase"

Duuuuuude.....all that weed fried your brains in the 1960's maaaaaan. You were talking about my "OP" (see what I highlighted in purple for you above). I responded to that and now you're attempting to reassign my response to another post. Sorry chief - that's not going to work here. My brain isn't fried.

 

[P@triot]

I did not even have to do any research of my own to shoot you down.

Thanks for playing...

It's harmful "to have an irreversible treatment too early," Moon said.

Doctors who provide the treatment say withholding it would be more harmful.

The bottom line? Only an asshole (ie a progressive) allows children to make major, life-altering decisions. A normal, rational adult, parents by making major decisions in the best interest of the child, for the child.

Again you prove that you either did not read or were unable to comprehend the linked article that YOU posted in your OP, nor did you grasp my commentary on it.

You claimed it was all "reversible". I just proved you wrong (again).

 

[P@triot]

Who the **** is suggesting that a 4 year old undergo gender reassignment surgery. You are either illiterate or playing a sick and dishonest game here

Uh...pretty much every idiot progressive in the world.