How to spot a con artist - Trump "we want to save money" - Trump "let's spend $25 billion on a golden......"

[frigidweirdo]

Greenland isn't the threat. Those who may attack Greenland and/or Europe are.

Canada is going to be contributing to this defense system anyways. Trump will probably charge $1B a year for 15 years or something. A pretty good deal considering how many covert operatives are working in American corporations here.

Paying the U.S would help ensure Canada gets to remain a caste system relying on false optics and PR campaigns.

Trump and his administration are very well informed though. Very well informed.

Wow. So the US should take over Europe too because someone might attack them?

Seems the US is a threat and Greenland should not be taken over by THE BIGGEST THREAT IN THE REGION.

The logic that a large superpower must take over any country that might get attacked by another large country is so flawed it makes me want to shit myself.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Reagan got the US to spend $200 billion of the US's money on this. And for what? A system that wasn't what Reagan said it was.

You mean something that liberals insisted would never work?
Boy, they must feel stupid. Typical leftwing morons.

Well, you're certainly showing why you're on my ignore list. What the fuck is this shit for a post? You didn't say anything other than "insult left wingers because I'm so fucking stupid I can't even write an argument", did you hurt your knuckles there, butch?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Wow. So the US should take over Europe too because someone might attack them?

Seems the US is a threat and Greenland should not be taken over by THE BIGGEST THREAT IN THE REGION.

The logic that a large superpower must take over any country that might get attacked by another large country is so flawed it makes me want to shit myself.

You aren't taking them over, please relax with the hyperbole.

You offer them American citizenship via a referendum. You send a team there to discuss what such a deal would entail. Share 50% of the profits from the mining of resources for the next 20 years, pay the adults $10k each or something in addition to this and give them U.S citizenship.

You make the pitch. They will convert their money to dollars and they will vote on a referendum for full autonomy to choose their destiny.

Aren't human beings allowed to pursue their Right to Self Determination?

 

[frigidweirdo]

You aren't taking them over, please relax with the hyperbole.

You offer them American citizenship via a referendum. You send a team there to discuss what such a deal would entail. Share 50% of the profits from the mining of resources for the next 20 years, pay the adults $10k each or something in addition to this and give them U.S citizenship.

You make the pitch. They will convert their money to dollars and they will vote on a referendum for full autonomy to choose their destiny.

Aren't human beings allowed to pursue their Right to Self Determination?

Trump seemed to be talking more like "we'll just fucking invade them if we so feel like it, because I'm Trump and fuck you all"

 

[Thinker101]

Wow, politics for first graders.

Wow, we gotta dim these down for you to understand.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Wow, we gotta dim these down for you to understand.

Nope, you dim it down so you can pretend you're a genius because you think you understand it now that it's simple as fuck.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Actually, CBC is reporting that it's a $175B multi year project. Wow.

Canada will probably be paying $5B a year for 10 years. Again, a great deal considering the covert operatives we place in U.S firms here.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/golden-dome-trump-us-missile-defence-canada-1.7539390

Donald Trump says Canada has asked to join the missile-defence program his administration is building, adding a new chapter to a long-running cross-border saga.

The U.S. president dropped that news in the Oval Office on Tuesday as he unveiled the initial plans for a three-year, $175 billion US project to build a multi-purpose missile shield he's calling the Golden Dome.

"Canada has called us and they want to be a part of it," Trump said. "They want to hook in and they want to be a part of it."

 

[JGalt]

So, I wrote the title and "is this already being discussed?" gives me two threads, the second of which is titled "Trump and Musk Saving America Billions of Dollars"

Well, I stumbled across an article that says "Trump unveils plans for 'Golden Dome' defence system"

"An initial sum of $25bn (£18.7bn) has been earmarked in a new budget bill - although the government has estimated it will end up costing much more than that over decades."

So he's saving money, and then going off spending this money, inevitably, on defense contractors for some kind of defense that Reagan came up with too.

Reagan got the US to spend $200 billion of the US's money on this. And for what? A system that wasn't what Reagan said it was.

"Instead of deploying lasers and other high-tech weaponry in space, as proposed under Reagan, SDIO relies on interceptors based in Alaska and California, as well as aboard 26 naval vessels to shoot down any intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) fired at the U.S."

Reagan’s Star Wars Program…More than $200 Billion Later

The ambitious and costly program, dubbed “Star Wars,” is now in its fourth decade, having consumed $209 billion while never being tested, even on a limited scale, in the heat of battle. Lewis and Postol expressed concerns because in each U.S. test, the trajectory, timing of the launch and the...

www.allgov.com

"In March 1983, President Ronald Reagan launched the Strategic Defense Initiative to develop and deploy an impenetrable shield to protect the United States from a Soviet missile attack. The ambitious and costly program, dubbed “Star Wars,” is now in its fourth decade, having consumed $209 billion while never being tested, even on a limited scale, in the heat of battle."

So, Trump is a scammer, telling everyone he's going to save money, and then.... proving he's not going to.

Regardless of the price, Reagan's SDI was the last nail in the coffin of the Soviet Union. It's not the weapons we have, it's the weapons our enemies think we have.

It's a damned good thing you zipperheads are no longer running this country.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Regardless of the price, Reagan's SDI was the last nail in the coffin of the Soviet Union. It's not the weapons we have, it's the weapons our enemies think we have.

It's a damned good thing you zipperheads are no longer running this country.

Yeah, except it took until 9/11 for the right to get a new common enemy that they needed.

And the USSR disappeared, and Russia is still there, still causing problems.

Trump: "I'll stop the war on day one of my presidency".
Trump in April "Putin isn't serious about peace"
Trump in May "Let's talk to Putin again".

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Well, you're certainly showing why you're on my ignore list. What the fuck is this shit for a post? You didn't say anything other than "insult left wingers because I'm so fucking stupid I can't even write an argument", did you hurt your knuckles there, butch?

Dems mocked Reagan's Star Wars idea, they said you can't hit a bullet with a bullet.
It will never work.
Dems were wrong then, you're wrong now.

You should whine some more. That's the only thing you're good at.

 

[Nostra]

Yeah, except it took until 9/11 for the right to get a new common enemy that they needed.

And the USSR disappeared, and Russia is still there, still causing problems.

Trump: "I'll stop the war on day one of my presidency".
Trump in April "Putin isn't serious about peace"
Trump in May "Let's talk to Putin again".

Some of Tater’s debacles are harder to clean up than others.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Dems mocked Reagan's Star Wars idea, they said you can't hit a bullet with a bullet.
It will never work.
Dems were wrong then, you're wrong now.

You should whine some more. That's the only thing you're good at.

Were they? Did his idea work?

No, it doesn't exist.

Strategic Defense Initiative - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Reagan called for a system that would render nuclear weapons obsolete, and to end the doctrine of mutual assured destruction (MAD), which he described as a "suicide pact"."

Do we not have MAD? We do have MAD. Are nukes obsolete? Nope.

The whole system is just anti-missile technology that has been developed. It's not lasers, which is what he said it would be.

 

[Cougarbear]

Has he "raised trillions of dollars"?

Bigger hole: Trump has spent $155bn more than Biden. Musk claims he only save $150bn

The Trump administration has already spent $155 billion more than former President Joe Biden did over the same period of time after their inaugurations, according to Treasury Department data. And Elon Musk is now claiming that his Department of Government Efficiency has only managed to save $150...

www.independent.co.uk

"A bigger hole: Trump has already spent $155bn more than Biden. Musk now claims DOGE only saved $150bn"

And his bill that will give the rich everything they want.... that the Republican in Congress aren't happy about because it doesn't give the rich ENOUGH of what they want, which is more of your money.

So, you are watching the liberal media and don't have a clue about the trillions he's been raising with countries and businesses from all over the world investing in the U.S.? You might want to watch Fox News now and get caught up to speed on this.

 

[BackAgain]

How to spot a con artist​

Easy. Dildos like frigidweirdo sign their bullshit.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So, you are watching the liberal media and don't have a clue about the trillions he's been raising with countries and businesses from all over the world investing in the U.S.? You might want to watch Fox News now and get caught up to speed on this.

Fox News doesn't even pretend to be news, it's entertainment.

If there's been money made, where's the EVIDENCE?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Were they? Did his idea work?

No, it doesn't exist.

Strategic Defense Initiative - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Reagan called for a system that would render nuclear weapons obsolete, and to end the doctrine of mutual assured destruction (MAD), which he described as a "suicide pact"."

Do we not have MAD? We do have MAD. Are nukes obsolete? Nope.

The whole system is just anti-missile technology that has been developed. It's not lasers, which is what he said it would be.

Yes, we can intercept missiles.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

I swear, people like you must be into BDSM.

Because you advocate for the most masochistic political things imaginable, and you keep doing it and keep doing it!

They are.

If the golden dome was a bad idea for America, democrats would support it.

Democrats = perverted freaks

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yes, we can intercept missiles.

But not with the star wars technology.

The SDI program was ended in 1993.

Money was moved away from the Star Wars program by Clinton towards the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization. Ballistic Missile Defense Organization - Wikipedia

So, it's kind of like Reagan did something, it was a total waste of money, the money was moved elsewhere, and the elsewhere made something that kind of did what Reagan had said the Star Wars program would do, only it did it DIFFERENTLY.

And you're giving credit to Reagan for it.

Now Trump wants a system to do what already exists, and he wants to spend loads of money on it... when the whole point of Trump was to save people money, when nobody seems to be saving money, except super rich people.

 

[frigidweirdo]

They are.

If the golden dome was a bad idea for America, democrats would support it.

Democrats = perverted freaks

Politics for idiots....

 

[Nostra]

But not with the star wars technology.

The SDI program was ended in 1993.

Money was moved away from the Star Wars program by Clinton towards the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization. Ballistic Missile Defense Organization - Wikipedia

So, it's kind of like Reagan did something, it was a total waste of money, the money was moved elsewhere, and the elsewhere made something that kind of did what Reagan had said the Star Wars program would do, only it did it DIFFERENTLY.

And you're giving credit to Reagan for it.

Now Trump wants a system to do what already exists, and he wants to spend loads of money on it... when the whole point of Trump was to save people money, when nobody seems to be saving money, except super rich people.

Clinton just changed the name of Reagan’s SDI and you want to give him credit.

What a moron.