How to solve the problem of excess oxygen?

[frigidweirdo]

There is evidence. The free radical theory of aging has not been refuted. Mitochondria, free radicals and atoptos are objective facts

Well, where is this evidence? It's certainly not here, posted by you.

 

[rupol2000]

What about turtles?

it doesn't move much

 

[rupol2000]

Well, where is this evidence? It's certainly not here, posted by you.

it's not hard to find, do you have internet?

 

[frigidweirdo]

it doesn't move much

Does that mean it doesn't put much effort in? It's shell must weigh a ton.

Energy Metabolism and Aging - PubMed

Aging is strongly related to energy metabolism, but the underlying processes and mechanisms are complex and incompletely understood. Restricting energy intake and reducing metabolic rate can slow the rate of aging and extend longevity, implying a reciprocal relationship between energy metabolism...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Aging is strongly related to energy metabolism, but the underlying processes and mechanisms are complex and incompletely understood. Restricting energy intake and reducing metabolic rate can slow the rate of aging and extend longevity, implying a reciprocal relationship between energy metabolism and life expectancy. "

Now, here's a thing about metabolism. Perhaps the turtle has a low metabolism and therefore moves slower because of this and can therefore live longer. However this is not that well understood. And how do you define someone's metabolism?

Are those people who live longer, those people who didn't run around and do much exercise as kids? A higher metabolism might mean a skinnier person. Do skinnier people live longer than bigger build people?

 

[frigidweirdo]

it's not hard to find, do you have internet?

This is YOUR ARGUMENT. Don't tell me to do your research for you. That's a quick way of ending this conversation.

 

[rupol2000]

Does that mean it doesn't put much effort in? It's shell must weigh a ton.

Energy Metabolism and Aging - PubMed

Aging is strongly related to energy metabolism, but the underlying processes and mechanisms are complex and incompletely understood. Restricting energy intake and reducing metabolic rate can slow the rate of aging and extend longevity, implying a reciprocal relationship between energy metabolism...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Aging is strongly related to energy metabolism, but the underlying processes and mechanisms are complex and incompletely understood. Restricting energy intake and reducing metabolic rate can slow the rate of aging and extend longevity, implying a reciprocal relationship between energy metabolism and life expectancy. "

Now, here's a thing about metabolism. Perhaps the turtle has a low metabolism and therefore moves slower because of this and can therefore live longer. However this is not that well understood. And how do you define someone's metabolism?

Are those people who live longer, those people who didn't run around and do much exercise as kids? A higher metabolism might mean a skinnier person. Do skinnier people live longer than bigger build people?

For athletes, the shift towards anaerobic glycolysis and intense training usually take little time. In this case, it is the oxidative metabolism that is destructive, that init by usual work and not high-intensive training

 

[rupol2000]

There are also aerobic training in marathon and so on, but it is also destructive. Such an athlete usually not athletic, his flesh destructed. they usually have dystrophy that requires recovery

 

[frigidweirdo]

For athletes, the shift towards anaerobic glycolysis and intense training usually take little time. In this case, it is the oxidative metabolism that is destructive, that init by usual work and not high-intensive training

And you've still not shown anything.

 

[ReinyDays]

The Oxygen Catastrophe occurred 2.2 billion years ago ... perhaps only one species survived, the one making the oxygen ... believed to be a cyanobacteria ... anything that evolved after that date is protected against corrosion by Oxygen ... in fact, most all cellular life utilizes this corrosion in respiratory metabolism ... sugar + O2 --> CO2 + H2O + energy ...

Beyond that, Oxygen is ubiquitous in all of biology ... no exceptions ... consider one of the simplest of amino acids ... Alanine ... chemical formula C3H7NO2 ... those two Oxygen atoms make up the "acid" side group and is common to all amino acids and is required for amino acids to bond to each other to form proteins ... no Oxygen, no proteins ... life would be considerably different if it existed at all without Oxygen ...

From "How Stuff Works":
"The astronauts in the Gemini and Apollo programs breathed 100 percent oxygen at reduced pressure for up to two weeks with no problems. In contrast, when 100 percent oxygen is breathed under high pressure (more than four times that of atmospheric pressure), acute oxygen poisoning can occur ..." and "Such high oxygen pressures can be experienced by military SCUBA divers using rebreathing devices, divers being treated for the bends in hyperbaric chambers or patients being treated for acute carbon monoxide poisoning."

Iron is an essential nutrient ... but is as deadly as lead with a 1,100 feet/second muzzle velocity ...

 

[rupol2000]

sugar + O2 --> CO2 + H2O + energy

it is believed that it can be either glucose or lipids.

In general, this process looks like the theft of carbon, and carbon is the basis of life. This may also make some sense.

 

[rupol2000]

occurred 2.2 billion years ago

There is also some kind of catch. Under conditions of energy efficiency of oxidative phosphorylation, anaerobic mechanisms should have disappeared in such a time.

 

[ding]

The Oxygen Catastrophe occurred 2.2 billion years ago ... perhaps only one species survived, the one making the oxygen ... believed to be a cyanobacteria ... anything that evolved after that date is protected against corrosion by Oxygen ... in fact, most all cellular life utilizes this corrosion in respiratory metabolism ... sugar + O2 --> CO2 + H2O + energy ...

Beyond that, Oxygen is ubiquitous in all of biology ... no exceptions ... consider one of the simplest of amino acids ... Alanine ... chemical formula C3H7NO2 ... those two Oxygen atoms make up the "acid" side group and is common to all amino acids and is required for amino acids to bond to each other to form proteins ... no Oxygen, no proteins ... life would be considerably different if it existed at all without Oxygen ...

From "How Stuff Works":
"The astronauts in the Gemini and Apollo programs breathed 100 percent oxygen at reduced pressure for up to two weeks with no problems. In contrast, when 100 percent oxygen is breathed under high pressure (more than four times that of atmospheric pressure), acute oxygen poisoning can occur ..." and "Such high oxygen pressures can be experienced by military SCUBA divers using rebreathing devices, divers being treated for the bends in hyperbaric chambers or patients being treated for acute carbon monoxide poisoning."

Iron is an essential nutrient ... but is as deadly as lead with a 1,100 feet/second muzzle velocity ...

I love most of your posts. Some day you are going to have to tell me what your background is beyond building houses. For awhile I thought it was meteorology but you know too much chemistry for that. So I'm going with PhD in chemistry. Probably a professor at a university or at least that's what you use to do. Am I warm?

 

[westwall]

If parents have worked hard physically, they will age faster, because they accelerate the oxidative effect of physical aerobic activity

And if they don't work they get fat and die of morbid obesity, diabetes, and a host of other causes.

Oxygen doesn't kill you, or make you age faster. Your genetic makeup does that for you.

 

[rupol2000]

And if they don't work they get fat and die of morbid obesity, diabetes, and a host of other causes.

Many of those who physically work are obese and diabetics. It doesn't correlate, or even there is a feedback.

 

[westwall]

Many of those who physically work are obese and diabetics. It doesn't correlate, or even there is a feedback.

No, those who engage in strenuous work are rarely obese. If they are it is genetic.

 

[rupol2000]

No, those who engage in strenuous work are rarely obese

It's from the TV. And in reality, even in fitness, aerobic exercise does not give any tangible results for weight loss, people lose weight well on a caffeine-ephedrine diet when they kill themselves with hypoxic high-intensity exercise. Which by the way should not be in their theory at all, because glycogen works there, not fat. And fat people run all their lives and believe in the miracle of losing weight
More precisely, not all life, but until the moment when it irreversibly erases the knee joints

 

[rupol2000]

show me one fat crossfitter
They are not here? But after all, their training is on glycogen, where does the fat go?

 

[westwall]

It's from the TV. And in reality, even in fitness, aerobic exercise does not give any tangible results for weight loss, people lose weight well on a caffeine-ephedrine diet when they kill themselves with hypoxic high-intensity exercise. Which by the way should not be in their theory at all, because glycogen works there, not fat. And fat people run all their lives and believe in the miracle of losing weight
More precisely, not all life, but until the moment when it irreversibly erases the knee joints

Weight isn't a proper measure of health. People who do a lot of physical labor develop muscles. Muscles are far denser than blubber, so while their weight may increase their level of fitness is vastly improved.

 

[rupol2000]

People who do a lot of physical labor develop muscles.

This is from TV-show too, but this is some kind of humorous TV show

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How to solve the problem of excess oxygen?​

Stop breathing, immediately!!!