How to reform the Republican Party?

[jwoodie]

"Old white guys" were the only ones who could win "Who Wants to be a Millionaire," so they had to "reform" it to give lesser beings a chance...

 

[rdean]

scary

 

[jwoodie]

scary

But true.

 

[oldfart]

And at some point, all they've got is a few old white guys yelling, "You kids get off my lawn!!"

God knows I have nothing against old white guys in general, but it's not a large enough voter pool to ever win another election.

Just for the record: I'm an old white guy. I'm also bald, fat, mean, ugly, and proud of it. I would not be a member of any club who let people like me in it.

 

[AVG-JOE]

How to reform the Republican Party?

Start by abandoning all interest in Trickle Down Economics. Follow that up with a call for fair and simple taxes, transparency in politics and public budgets that are balanced by law.

That's the plan that will bring me back to the right.

Get entirely out of social issues? And concentrate on rightwing economic positions. Yeah, I would like that, too. Given that most of the GOP's social issues are basically anti-women, just entirely giving up all social issues couldn't hurt. The ones that aren't about women (such as homosexual marriage, blacks, Hispanics) also deduct YET MORE voters from the GOP.........

And at some point, all they've got is a few old white guys yelling, "You kids get off my lawn!!"

God knows I have nothing against old white guys in general, but it's not a large enough voter pool to ever win another election.

And it leaves me with no one to vote for! I'm no Democrat, Libertarians don't actually have any real candidates, all I can do now is give up on democracy. The GOP cannot really expect me to vote for the party of no legal birth control, Herman Cain for president, rape is "legitimate."

Darn. We so need a party switch-out. I think women would FLOCK to a Libertarian Party. Isn't that basically what women want in politics? Men to mind their own damn business and quit trying to control us and sex us up even when we don't like them. Remember Jack Ryan of Illinois? That's how Obama got into the Senate and then quickly into the White House. The GOP ran a guy who had shopped his wife around at sex clubs, against her will, and she divorced him for it! Oh, good move, GOP.

There is good news...

With so many moderate republicans registering as independents and democrats, the democratic party is becoming closer and closer to reasonable.

We still need to trim a LOT of the dead wood hired to the House and Senate back in the 80's and 90's by both parties, and more right leaning votes in the democratic primaries is just the ticket to do that on the left, as the right continues to cull their entrenched by implosion, seeking a 'fresh face' for the same fucking message.

Ass-u-me-ing of course that the right doesn't jettison the religious base and join the 21st Century on social issues. When that happens a flood of moderate voters will again move to the right side of the voting booth. I just hope that Trickle-down Economics is dead and buried before that happens... fair and simple taxes, budgets balanced by law.

Just three years in and this is already proving to be a very interesting decade. Especially when you consider the spanking that the left took to start things off in 2010. January, 2011 would have been a golden opportunity for the republicans had the leadership realized that spanking the left at that moment was not an endorsement of the TEA party or the religious social agenda.

What happened after 2010 is proof that the republican party continues to be narrowly focused on an agenda that mainstream America has been rejecting with increasing enthusiasm since the 60's.

 

[Spoonman]

How to reform the Republican Party?

Start by abandoning all interest in Trickle Down Economics. Follow that up with a call for fair and simple taxes, transparency in politics and public budgets that are balanced by law.

That's the plan that will bring me back to the right.

Get entirely out of social issues? And concentrate on rightwing economic positions. Yeah, I would like that, too. Given that most of the GOP's social issues are basically anti-women, just entirely giving up all social issues couldn't hurt. The ones that aren't about women (such as homosexual marriage, blacks, Hispanics) also deduct YET MORE voters from the GOP.........

And at some point, all they've got is a few old white guys yelling, "You kids get off my lawn!!"

God knows I have nothing against old white guys in general, but it's not a large enough voter pool to ever win another election.

And it leaves me with no one to vote for! I'm no Democrat, Libertarians don't actually have any real candidates, all I can do now is give up on democracy. The GOP cannot really expect me to vote for the party of no legal birth control, Herman Cain for president, rape is "legitimate."

Darn. We so need a party switch-out. I think women would FLOCK to a Libertarian Party. Isn't that basically what women want in politics? Men to mind their own damn business and quit trying to control us and sex us up even when we don't like them. Remember Jack Ryan of Illinois? That's how Obama got into the Senate and then quickly into the White House. The GOP ran a guy who had shopped his wife around at sex clubs, against her will, and she divorced him for it! Oh, good move, GOP.

so what happens in 2016 when the democrats don't run another black guy but run an old white guy?

 

[whitehall]

Republicans want to end perception as 'stuffy old men'

Posted 3/18 by
CNN Political Unit

Washington (CNN) – The beleaguered Republican Party put into writing Monday what many of its top strategists and leaders have been saying since last year's election losses: The GOP is too old, too white, and too insular to win national contests.

Is it even possible to reform the GOP now? I was hoping it would collapse and a Libertarian Party assume its place, but we haven't got that yet.

I was a lifelong Republican until 2006, when totally disgusted with the losing forever war and fooled by the antiwar stance of the Dems, I reregistered Independent.

I'm not going back to the GOP because they have become essentially anti-woman in almost every stance.

--women hate war, but Republicans never saw a war they didn't want to charge right into.
--women hate all these guns and school shootings, but Republicans love guns and the NRA mailing list is equivalent to the GOP.
--woman hate sex marauders like Herman Cain but Republican (men) will defend him to the death as a great presidential candidate!
--women hate rape but at least two candidates for the Senate actually spoke in favor of rape!! Simply incredible. Both lost, of course.
--most women want abortion freedoms protected for all women. Republican men, of course, want control, control, control over women's reproduction, though it's none of their business.
--women have have been building birth control freedoms since 1929, but a major presidential candidate (Santorum) came out AGAINST birth control! Incredible.
--most women think it's an insult for a boob bimbo to be picked as a VP candidate: Hello, Sarah Palin!
--the cruelties and crimes of Mormons against women and young girls are well-known and there are many tell-all books by "sister wives" that women read. So who did the Republicans pick to run for president?? You guessed it: a Mormon!

As there are substantially more women than men in the population, as women vote disporportionately to our already greater proportion, and since we achieve much lower unemployment and have 55% of all BA degrees and 60% of all masters degrees awarded, I question how much political sense it really makes for the Republican Party to be so inimical toward women.

I don't see how the GOP can come back. They've lost the women, and there are more women voters than the other kind, so that's that. Time for a new party.

Anyone else think the GOP can't recover now? Too old, too white, too .....male?

Come back? The GOP controls most of the state governments and has a solid majority in the House. Personally I'm tired of the dirty tricksters who pretend to be republicans but are so...sob...disappointed that they turned into socialists. Join the freaking Tea Party and try to make the GOP better instead of whining or pretending to whine about the political party you probably never belonged to.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Start by abandoning all interest in Trickle Down Economics. Follow that up with a call for fair and simple taxes, transparency in politics and public budgets that are balanced by law.

That's the plan that will bring me back to the right.

Get entirely out of social issues? And concentrate on rightwing economic positions. Yeah, I would like that, too. Given that most of the GOP's social issues are basically anti-women, just entirely giving up all social issues couldn't hurt. The ones that aren't about women (such as homosexual marriage, blacks, Hispanics) also deduct YET MORE voters from the GOP.........

And at some point, all they've got is a few old white guys yelling, "You kids get off my lawn!!"

God knows I have nothing against old white guys in general, but it's not a large enough voter pool to ever win another election.

And it leaves me with no one to vote for! I'm no Democrat, Libertarians don't actually have any real candidates, all I can do now is give up on democracy. The GOP cannot really expect me to vote for the party of no legal birth control, Herman Cain for president, rape is "legitimate."

Darn. We so need a party switch-out. I think women would FLOCK to a Libertarian Party. Isn't that basically what women want in politics? Men to mind their own damn business and quit trying to control us and sex us up even when we don't like them. Remember Jack Ryan of Illinois? That's how Obama got into the Senate and then quickly into the White House. The GOP ran a guy who had shopped his wife around at sex clubs, against her will, and she divorced him for it! Oh, good move, GOP.

so what happens in 2016 when the democrats don't run another black guy but run an old white guy?

It'll be interesting to see what the primaries generate on both sides. Can you imagine how different these elections coming up would be without the gerrymandering of 2010?

 

[Spoonman]

Get entirely out of social issues? And concentrate on rightwing economic positions. Yeah, I would like that, too. Given that most of the GOP's social issues are basically anti-women, just entirely giving up all social issues couldn't hurt. The ones that aren't about women (such as homosexual marriage, blacks, Hispanics) also deduct YET MORE voters from the GOP.........

And at some point, all they've got is a few old white guys yelling, "You kids get off my lawn!!"

God knows I have nothing against old white guys in general, but it's not a large enough voter pool to ever win another election.

And it leaves me with no one to vote for! I'm no Democrat, Libertarians don't actually have any real candidates, all I can do now is give up on democracy. The GOP cannot really expect me to vote for the party of no legal birth control, Herman Cain for president, rape is "legitimate."

Darn. We so need a party switch-out. I think women would FLOCK to a Libertarian Party. Isn't that basically what women want in politics? Men to mind their own damn business and quit trying to control us and sex us up even when we don't like them. Remember Jack Ryan of Illinois? That's how Obama got into the Senate and then quickly into the White House. The GOP ran a guy who had shopped his wife around at sex clubs, against her will, and she divorced him for it! Oh, good move, GOP.

so what happens in 2016 when the democrats don't run another black guy but run an old white guy?

It'll be interesting to see what the primaries generate on both sides. Can you imagine how different these elections coming up would be without the gerrymandering of 2010?

one thing different in this election too, the democrats will be destroying each other this round as well in the primaries. obama got a free ride from that in 2012

 

[Wonky Pundit]

Give it a good hard kick to the left, so that it hopefully ends up in the center.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Republicans want to end perception as 'stuffy old men'

Posted 3/18 by
CNN Political Unit

Washington (CNN) – The beleaguered Republican Party put into writing Monday what many of its top strategists and leaders have been saying since last year's election losses: The GOP is too old, too white, and too insular to win national contests.

Is it even possible to reform the GOP now? I was hoping it would collapse and a Libertarian Party assume its place, but we haven't got that yet.

I was a lifelong Republican until 2006, when totally disgusted with the losing forever war and fooled by the antiwar stance of the Dems, I reregistered Independent.

I'm not going back to the GOP because they have become essentially anti-woman in almost every stance.

--women hate war, but Republicans never saw a war they didn't want to charge right into.
--women hate all these guns and school shootings, but Republicans love guns and the NRA mailing list is equivalent to the GOP.
--woman hate sex marauders like Herman Cain but Republican (men) will defend him to the death as a great presidential candidate!
--women hate rape but at least two candidates for the Senate actually spoke in favor of rape!! Simply incredible. Both lost, of course.
--most women want abortion freedoms protected for all women. Republican men, of course, want control, control, control over women's reproduction, though it's none of their business.
--women have have been building birth control freedoms since 1929, but a major presidential candidate (Santorum) came out AGAINST birth control! Incredible.
--most women think it's an insult for a boob bimbo to be picked as a VP candidate: Hello, Sarah Palin!
--the cruelties and crimes of Mormons against women and young girls are well-known and there are many tell-all books by "sister wives" that women read. So who did the Republicans pick to run for president?? You guessed it: a Mormon!

As there are substantially more women than men in the population, as women vote disporportionately to our already greater proportion, and since we achieve much lower unemployment and have 55% of all BA degrees and 60% of all masters degrees awarded, I question how much political sense it really makes for the Republican Party to be so inimical toward women.

I don't see how the GOP can come back. They've lost the women, and there are more women voters than the other kind, so that's that. Time for a new party.

Anyone else think the GOP can't recover now? Too old, too white, too .....male?

Come back? The GOP controls most of the state governments and has a solid majority in the House. Personally I'm tired of the dirty tricksters who pretend to be republicans but are so...sob...disappointed that they turned into socialists. Join the freaking Tea Party and try to make the GOP better instead of whining or pretending to whine about the political party you probably never belonged to.

Rick Scott may have painted the governors mansion door in Florida a bright 2010 republican red, but because he is actually listening to the voters, his agenda now is tracking way left of the TEA party. $2,500 across the board raise for teachers? In THIS economy?!? Turns out that Mr. Scott is an effective leader in spite of his political associations.

It's not a matter of labels or Red -vs- Blue, the heart beat of America is beginning to lose the 'go it alone' individualist attitude that was necessary between 1850 and 1950 but which hinders us now in favor of an attitude of 'Community'. I'm one old white guy who digs the change and I'm going with the flow. I'm looking forward to new leadership selected from our new attitude. The cold war is SO 20th Century!

 

[whitehall]

Is it even possible to reform the GOP now? I was hoping it would collapse and a Libertarian Party assume its place, but we haven't got that yet.

I was a lifelong Republican until 2006, when totally disgusted with the losing forever war and fooled by the antiwar stance of the Dems, I reregistered Independent.

I'm not going back to the GOP because they have become essentially anti-woman in almost every stance.

--women hate war, but Republicans never saw a war they didn't want to charge right into.
--women hate all these guns and school shootings, but Republicans love guns and the NRA mailing list is equivalent to the GOP.
--woman hate sex marauders like Herman Cain but Republican (men) will defend him to the death as a great presidential candidate!
--women hate rape but at least two candidates for the Senate actually spoke in favor of rape!! Simply incredible. Both lost, of course.
--most women want abortion freedoms protected for all women. Republican men, of course, want control, control, control over women's reproduction, though it's none of their business.
--women have have been building birth control freedoms since 1929, but a major presidential candidate (Santorum) came out AGAINST birth control! Incredible.
--most women think it's an insult for a boob bimbo to be picked as a VP candidate: Hello, Sarah Palin!
--the cruelties and crimes of Mormons against women and young girls are well-known and there are many tell-all books by "sister wives" that women read. So who did the Republicans pick to run for president?? You guessed it: a Mormon!

As there are substantially more women than men in the population, as women vote disporportionately to our already greater proportion, and since we achieve much lower unemployment and have 55% of all BA degrees and 60% of all masters degrees awarded, I question how much political sense it really makes for the Republican Party to be so inimical toward women.

I don't see how the GOP can come back. They've lost the women, and there are more women voters than the other kind, so that's that. Time for a new party.

Anyone else think the GOP can't recover now? Too old, too white, too .....male?

Come back? The GOP controls most of the state governments and has a solid majority in the House. Personally I'm tired of the dirty tricksters who pretend to be republicans but are so...sob...disappointed that they turned into socialists. Join the freaking Tea Party and try to make the GOP better instead of whining or pretending to whine about the political party you probably never belonged to.

Rick Scott may have painted the governors mansion door in Florida a bright 2010 republican red, but because he is actually listening to the voters, his agenda now is tracking way left of the TEA party. $2,500 across the board raise for teachers? In THIS economy?!? Turns out that Mr. Scott is an effective leader in spite of his political associations.

It's not a matter of labels or Red -vs- Blue, the heart beat of America is beginning to lose the 'go it alone' individualist attitude that was necessary between 1850 and 1950 but which hinders us now in favor of an attitude of 'Community'. I'm one old white guy who digs the change and I'm going with the flow. I'm looking forward to new leadership selected from our new attitude. The cold war is SO 20th Century!

It certainly is a matter of labels. Who knows what prompted Scott to recommend a 2,500 pay raise to teachers? Maybe they were underpaid. "Go it alone" is a cliche and a stupid one to attach to the freaking biggest federal bureaucracy in the whole freaking world that honest republicans are trying to reign in.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Obviously they were underpaid. The consensus in the state was that it was a good idea and a reasonable expenditure of public funds to accomplish the worthy public goal of education.

That's the reason it demonstrates Rick Scott as an effective leader.

 

[Circe]

So I think we will get through this period somehow, at the probable cost of a few hundred thousand extra deaths, millions of unnecessarily ruined American lives, and scenes of degradation and depravity seen nowhere else in the civilized world.

I'm pretty sure that's not called "getting through"-- it's called revolution and war.

But I expect that's exactly what you meant. It's what I think, too.

 

[Circe]

so what happens in 2016 when the democrats don't run another black guy but run an old white guy?

I don't know why you think they will ---- many here seem to think Hillary will run.

That would work for me -- I didn't like Bill and his out-of-control sex problem, but his presidency was full of Peace and Prosperity and moderateness and he even won a war ---- quickly. And stayed out of Rwanda. I know he cried about it, but crocodile tears are cheap while wars are expensive.

A Clinton WITHOUT THE SEX ------

This could so work for me.

 

[Conservadude]

How to reform the Republican Party.. What a question.

Maybe reforming our country would be a good start.

Maybe teaching children in school that marriage is a life-long commitment, not to be taken lightly, between one man and one woman, for the purpose of bringing forth children and having a great life together. Maybe that'd be a good start.

Maybe teaching kids that sex is a very serious thing with very serious implications.. and you to be prepared if they come their way. Abortion is the cowards way out. Killing a child is not a solution. The solution is to teach kids to respect life. Maybe that'd be a good start.

Maybe teaching kids that there is no other nation on earth that even compares to ours, and teaching them fiscal responsibility.. Maybe that'd be a good start.

Maybe teaching kids at an early age that we are not all guaranteed an equal outcome, but an equal opportunity to become successful. And teach them that success is a GOOD thing.. while we're at it. Maybe that'd be a good start.

I could continue. The problems do not lie within the positions of the Republican Party, but within the way kids are brought up nowadays. Values are thrown out the door at every turn.

Let's fix that.. then we can work on fixing our nation.. and party.

 

[Circe]

Personally I'm tired of the dirty tricksters who pretend to be republicans but are so...sob...disappointed that they turned into socialists. Join the freaking Tea Party and try to make the GOP better instead of whining or pretending to whine about the political party you probably never belonged to.

A personal attack.

How unpleasant.

 

[Emir]

How to reform the Republican Party.. What a question.

Maybe reforming our country would be a good start.

Maybe teaching children in school that marriage is a life-long commitment, not to be taken lightly, between one man and one woman, for the purpose of bringing forth children and having a great life together. Maybe that'd be a good start.

Maybe teaching kids that sex is a very serious thing with very serious implications.. and you to be prepared if they come their way. Abortion is the cowards way out. Killing a child is not a solution. The solution is to teach kids to respect life. Maybe that'd be a good start.

Maybe teaching kids that there is no other nation on earth that even compares to ours, and teaching them fiscal responsibility.. Maybe that'd be a good start.

Maybe teaching kids at an early age that we are not all guaranteed an equal outcome, but an equal opportunity to become successful. And teach them that success is a GOOD thing.. while we're at it. Maybe that'd be a good start.

I could continue. The problems do not lie within the positions of the Republican Party, but within the way kids are brought up nowadays. Values are thrown out the door at every turn.

Let's fix that.. then we can work on fixing our nation.. and party.

Unfortunately for you, this mantra was soundly rejected by voters last year. The question is not "does the Republican Party need to evolve" but rather "how should the Republican Party evolve in order to return to the mainstream."

 

[whitehall]

The Country is falling apart under a series of scandals that the liberal media can't even hide and we get Huffington suggestions about "how to reform the republican party". It's all part of the desperate effort to deflect focus on the criminal administration.

 

[KevinWestern]

The Country is falling apart under a series of scandals that the liberal media can't even hide and we get Huffington suggestions about "how to reform the republican party". It's all part of the desperate effort to deflect focus on the criminal administration.

In Huffington Post's defense, they've been a leading mainstream source of covering Obama's devastating and violent drone policy (I guess the murder of school children only 'count' if they're American), and exposing things like the DHS's purchase order of 1.6 billion bullets last year (enough to fund an all out war for 20 years).

I applaud them for that.