How To Recognize Insanity In Your Political Preference.

:bowdown: Well said.

"Conservatism is like abstinence; it works every time it's tried."
Unfortunately, you couldn't be more wrong.

Conservatism has not had ANY policy success stories in over FOUR decades.
And the reason for that is it's based (at least since the early 80's) in fundamental religious belief in a higher power.
When Republicans sold their platform out to the religious right, that was pretty much the end of conservatism..which is now just fundamentalism. :)
 
Conserve means to save. The entire world needs saving.
LOL..Saved????? Three Republican presidents in the last four decades running up the debt and deficit while giving sweetheart tax breaks to corporations and the wealthy..please. Just stop.
It hasn't been "conservatism" since the religious right started controlling the party. Too much. :auiqs.jpg:
 
Unfortunately, you couldn't be more wrong.

Conservatism has not had ANY policy success stories in over FOUR decades.
And the reason for that is it's based (at least since the early 80's) in fundamental religious belief in a higher power.
When Republicans sold their platform out to the religious right, that was pretty much the end of conservatism..which is now just fundamentalism. :)
Like I said, it has to be tried in order to work.
 
LOL..Saved????? Three Republican presidents in the last four decades running up the debt and deficit while giving sweetheart tax breaks to corporations and the wealthy..please. Just stop.
It hasn't been "conservatism" since the religious right started controlling the party. Too much. :auiqs.jpg:
That's like a pregnant girl insisting that abstinence doesn't work. ;)
 
It seems to fall to me to educate you time and again.

Well......noblesse oblige.....



1) Conservatives believe that there are moral truths, right and wrong, and that these truths are permanent. The result of infracting these truths will be atrocities and social disaster. Liberals believe in a privatization of morality so complete that no code of conduct is generally accepted, practically to the point of ‘do what you can get away with’. These beliefs are aimed at the gratification of appetites and exhibit anarchistic impulses.

2 ) Conservatives believe that custom and tradition result in individuals living in peace. Law is custom and precedent. Liberals are destroyers of custom and convention. To a conservative, change should be gradual, as the new society is often inferior to the old. We build on the ideas and experience of our ancestors. The species is wiser than the individual (Burke).

a. From Eric Hoffer in The True Believer, “…people with a sense of fulfillment think it is a good world land would like to conserve it as it is, while the frustrated favor radical change.”​

b."… fallacy that something is bad simply because it is old or good because it is new." Logan Albright









Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.





Conservatives believe in the principle of variety, while liberal perspectives result in a narrowing uniformity. Conservatives believe in choice of healthcare, education, religion, and various other areas. Under conservative principles, there will be differences in class, material condition and other inequalities. Equality will be of opportunity, not necessarily of result. The only uniformity will be before the law. Society will not be perfect. Consider the results of the rule of ideologues of the last century.



Freedom and property are linked. Private property results in a more stable and productive society. Private property and retaining the fruits of one’s labor has been proven successful from the Puritan’s Bradford, to the Stakhanovite Revolution!



Conservatives believe in voluntary community and charity, based on duties to each other, with the assumption that each person must do whatever he could to avoid requiring assistance, as opposed to involuntary collectivism, as in “let the government do it..” Burke's understanding that the "little platoon" - family, neighborhood, professional organizations etc - is the "first principle" of society has been consistently identified as providing the necessary inspiration for conservativism. And explains why conservatives give more to charity than liberals.



Conservatives view people as both good and bad, and for this reason believe on restraints on power, as in checks and balances, while liberals see power as a force for good, as long as the power is in their hands.



Liberals and Conservatives differ in the way to proceed. For Conservatives, data informs policy. (“More Guns, Less Crime” and “Mass murderers apparently can’t read, since they are constantly shooting up ‘gun-free zones.’”- Coulter) We use Conservative principles to the best of our ability, but when confronting new and original venues, we believe in testing, and analysis of the results of the tests. For liberals, feeling passes for knowing; it is based on emotion often to the exclusion of thinking.



Conservatives view results differently from Liberals. Liberals respond to success and material wealth with envy and hostility, encourage class warfare and an attempt to obviate any chance that it might happen again. The exception is when it is a Liberal with the wealth. Conservatives see success as the validation and culmination of the application of Conservative principles, most prominently Liberty.



Since Liberals see their view as a higher calling that that of Conservatives, they mistakenly believe that it is entirely appropriate for then to use, not logic, facts, nor accepted debating techniques, but ad hominem attacks on the physical appearance, personal history, or imaginary mental defects. Notice how the Liberal replaces intellect with emotion. This is, no doubt, based on a medieval concept of recognizing witches and demons. In fact, Liberals attempt to deal with opponents in similar fashion: recall Clarence Thomas’ “High Tech Lynching.”
You truly are a hack. The world is constantly changing. Evolving. But not you conservatives. Doesn't matter that you haven't had any polices you can point to as successes in over four decades. You keep running right back to your God. And basing your policy leanings on that belief. And that ultimately, is why conservatism fails as an ideology. And the violence? What dream world do you live in? It started on the right..and continues to this day.
 
You truly are a hack. The world is constantly changing. Evolving. But not you conservatives. Doesn't matter that you haven't had any polices you can point to as successes in over four decades. You keep running right back to your God. And basing your policy leanings on that belief. And that ultimately, is why conservatism fails as an ideology. And the violence? What dream world do you live in? It started on the right..and continues to this day.
Hard to drain the swamp when you're up to your ass in alligators.
 
Unfortunately, you couldn't be more wrong.

Conservatism has not had ANY policy success stories in over FOUR decades.
And the reason for that is it's based (at least since the early 80's) in fundamental religious belief in a higher power.
When Republicans sold their platform out to the religious right, that was pretty much the end of conservatism..which is now just fundamentalism. :)


"And the reason for that is......"


"Over the past several decades, the progressive Left has successfully fulfilled Antonio Gramsci’s famed admonition of a “long march through the institutions”. In almost every Western country, its adherents now dominate the education system, media, cultural institutions, and financial behemoths."
Is this the end of progressive America?



Perhaps the most pertinent explanation......people like you who aren't smart enough, or brave enough, to see through the propaganda.


Unless we can pry the schools from them, as earlier American pried their slaves from them.....America is lost.
 
You truly are a hack. The world is constantly changing. Evolving. But not you conservatives. Doesn't matter that you haven't had any polices you can point to as successes in over four decades. You keep running right back to your God. And basing your policy leanings on that belief. And that ultimately, is why conservatism fails as an ideology. And the violence? What dream world do you live in? It started on the right..and continues to this day.


Let's review the facts, and the definitions.



The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
“free markets, free voices, free people”

,
Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists, Democrats
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


None of the totalitarian forms of political plague have the slightest concern for human life: not communism (gulags), not Nazism (concentration camps), not Liberalism (abortion), not Progressivism (eugenics), not socialism (theft), not fascism (murder).

The Democrats check every one of those boxes.



They only differ in the final outcome: slavery, serfdom, or death.

They all follow Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."
 
You truly are a hack. The world is constantly changing. Evolving. But not you conservatives. Doesn't matter that you haven't had any polices you can point to as successes in over four decades. You keep running right back to your God. And basing your policy leanings on that belief. And that ultimately, is why conservatism fails as an ideology. And the violence? What dream world do you live in? It started on the right..and continues to this day.



Some things are not to be changed: the sanctity of human life.


Did you get your check in to Planned Parenthood.

They'll send you their newest bumper sticker: "Kill you kid.....Ask me how."
 
Like I said, it has to be tried in order to work.
How long would you like to wait? By my count, we've had four Republican presidents in the last four decades. You haven't even gotten close to implementing anything conservative (policy wise).


Unfortunately, for conservatism to have ANY shot at success whatsoever, you'll need to jettison the crazies first. The holy rollers, the alt-right, and the rest of the fringe nut cases.
That..will not leave you with much to start with. THEN, you'll have to raise taxes on corporations and the wealthy if you hope to have any shot of "saving" anything. Because the next
thing you'll need to solve is Medicare, SS, and the bloated Pentagon budget which to my knowledge..STILL hasn't been audited more than a decade after Congress pass a bill green lighting it.
 
How long would you like to wait? By my count, we've had four Republican presidents in the last four decades. You haven't even gotten close to implementing anything conservative (policy wise).


Unfortunately, for conservatism to have ANY shot at success whatsoever, you'll need to jettison the crazies first. The holy rollers, the alt-right, and the rest of the fringe nut cases.
That..will not leave you with much to start with. THEN, you'll have to raise taxes on corporations and the wealthy if you hope to have any shot of "saving" anything. Because the next
thing you'll need to solve is Medicare, SS, and the bloated Pentagon budget which to my knowledge..STILL hasn't been audited more than a decade after Congress pass a bill green lighting it.
Well, I tried it personally and it really worked well for me, way beyond my expectations. :)
 
Let's review the facts, and the definitions.



The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
“free markets, free voices, free people”

,
Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists, Democrats
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


None of the totalitarian forms of political plague have the slightest concern for human life: not communism (gulags), not Nazism (concentration camps), not Liberalism (abortion), not Progressivism (eugenics), not socialism (theft), not fascism (murder).

The Democrats check every one of those boxes.



They only differ in the final outcome: slavery, serfdom, or death.

They all follow Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."
The founding fathers were about as liberal and progressive as you can get. If they were true conservatives, they would have stayed in Europe and pledged allegiance to their kings.
You are a hack. Why? You spout the same bullshit in your lack of knowledge of the terms you throw around. You have no grasp of history..or the facts.

Let's see. Burning books, banning books, solving disputes with violence, removing individual liberties because it offends their god...I'm sorry, the REPUBLICAN party is actually
closer to the Nazis of the 1930's than Democrats are.

You lose again hack. :)
 
Cool. Now you just have to convince 537 politicians that it works. :)
They know it works, but their political fortunes have a different foundation. Politics embraces confusion and disorder. Conservatism is too orderly and simple for them.
 
The founding fathers were about as liberal and progressive as you can get. If they were true conservatives, they would have stayed in Europe and pledged allegiance to their kings.
You are a hack. Why? You spout the same bullshit in your lack of knowledge of the terms you throw around. You have no grasp of history..or the facts.

Let's see. Burning books, banning books, solving disputes with violence, removing individual liberties because it offends their god...I'm sorry, the REPUBLICAN party is actually
closer to the Nazis of the 1930's than Democrats are.

You lose again hack. :)


No vulgarity.....no matter that I shredded your lies and propaganda.
 
How long would you like to wait? By my count, we've had four Republican presidents in the last four decades. You haven't even gotten close to implementing anything conservative (policy wise).


Unfortunately, for conservatism to have ANY shot at success whatsoever, you'll need to jettison the crazies first. The holy rollers, the alt-right, and the rest of the fringe nut cases.
That..will not leave you with much to start with. THEN, you'll have to raise taxes on corporations and the wealthy if you hope to have any shot of "saving" anything. Because the next
thing you'll need to solve is Medicare, SS, and the bloated Pentagon budget which to my knowledge..STILL hasn't been audited more than a decade after Congress pass a bill green lighting it.
The GOP has steadily moved left the past few decades. There are few conservatives in the party; most are "go along to get along" with Democrats, whose idea of "bipartisanship" is "shut up and do exactly what we tell you, or we'll call you names". And the GOP does as ordered.

We have one liberal party. We damn sure don't need two.
 
The founding fathers were about as liberal and progressive as you can get. If they were true conservatives, they would have stayed in Europe and pledged allegiance to their kings.
So, you're saying the Founding Fathers, who fought a whole-ass war to get out from under oppressive government, are JUST LIKE today's progressives, who want oppressive government?

Look, I know leftists don't have any leftist heroes, so you have to steal conservatives'.

But insisting the FF would support today's leftists is just stupid as hell.
 
1. By now, any individual with more than two cerebral neurons to rub together recognize not only that the Demorat Party is certifiably insane....but....and this is significant......they believe (I purposely avoided the term 'think' in this connection) that they will have no trouble getting their supporters to be just as insane.

2. And…if you had the slightest doubt that they are insane, Democrat candidate for President, Julian Castro, definitively stated “he wants “trans women” to have access to “women’s reproductive rights,”abortion, as well.
Trans women or, as some would call them, men, cannot actually have an abortion as their bodies cannot be pregnant.” According To Julián Castro, 'Trans Women' (Also Called Men) Have The Right To Abortion


3. “A few notes for attendees: 1. Please try to be as inclusive as possible in your language. Women and girls are not the only people who can get pregnant and need abortions."
This is my fav: the Democrats are the party of science.....but they know that men can be pregnant, and need abortions, too.


4. “AOC explains trans men and nonbinary people can menstruate after referring to 'menstruating people'”
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said not only women menstruate, but also trans men and nonbinary people, responding to an earlier comment she made referring to "menstruating people."
"Trans men & non-binary people can also menstruate," Ocasio-Cortez tweeted, along with a screenshot of a Daily Mail headline that said: "AOC calls women 'menstruating people' while explaining the female body." AOC explains trans men and nonbinary people can menstruate after referring to 'menstruating people'




5. Check out the headline in the Washington Post,......…not a newspaper, rather a series of press releases typed up at the behest of their party, the Democrats.

"Pregnant people at much higher risk of breakthrough covid, study shows

By Amy Goldstein
and
Dan Keating

March 31, 2022|Updated March 31, 2022 at 5:29 p.m. EDT




Democrats......can you remind me again about you being the party of science?????




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