How To "Free Palestine"

[Sixties Fan]

It is not complex. Israel does not want the Palestinians to build anything in Israel or the west bank.

Of course its complex: issues of urban planning, private land ownership, growing population which refuses to relocate, illegal building, lack of infrastructure, stealing utilities, corrupt local governments, non-payment of taxes....

Take a look at the issues and maybe then we can discuss possible solutions.

It is really simple. Israel will not allow the Palestinians to have anything.

Define "Anything"

 

[P F Tinmore]

It is not complex. Israel does not want the Palestinians to build anything in Israel or the west bank.

Of course its complex: issues of urban planning, private land ownership, growing population which refuses to relocate, illegal building, lack of infrastructure, stealing utilities, corrupt local governments, non-payment of taxes....

Take a look at the issues and maybe then we can discuss possible solutions.

It is really simple. Israel will not allow the Palestinians to have anything.

Define "Anything"

WOW, where have you been?

 

[Hollie]

It is not complex. Israel does not want the Palestinians to build anything in Israel or the west bank.

Of course its complex: issues of urban planning, private land ownership, growing population which refuses to relocate, illegal building, lack of infrastructure, stealing utilities, corrupt local governments, non-payment of taxes....

Take a look at the issues and maybe then we can discuss possible solutions.

It is really simple. Israel will not allow the Palestinians to have anything.

Aww. Those poor, helpless Arabs-Moslems. They do have a dedicated UN welfare agency that showers them with millions of infidel welfare dollars annually. How does Israel "not allow" the welfare fraudsters to "not have" that?

Do you have a handy conspiracy theory to address that?

 

[P F Tinmore]

It is not complex. Israel does not want the Palestinians to build anything in Israel or the west bank.

Of course its complex: issues of urban planning, private land ownership, growing population which refuses to relocate, illegal building, lack of infrastructure, stealing utilities, corrupt local governments, non-payment of taxes....

Take a look at the issues and maybe then we can discuss possible solutions.

It is really simple. Israel will not allow the Palestinians to have anything.

Aww. Those poor, helpless Arabs-Moslems. They do have a dedicated UN welfare agency that showers them with millions of infidel welfare dollars annually. How does Israel "not allow" the welfare fraudsters to "not have" that?

Do you have a handy conspiracy theory to address that?

Sure, they never needed welfare before Israel stole all their stuff.

Then along came Israel now we have two countries on welfare.

 

[Hollie]

It is not complex. Israel does not want the Palestinians to build anything in Israel or the west bank.

Of course its complex: issues of urban planning, private land ownership, growing population which refuses to relocate, illegal building, lack of infrastructure, stealing utilities, corrupt local governments, non-payment of taxes....

Take a look at the issues and maybe then we can discuss possible solutions.

It is really simple. Israel will not allow the Palestinians to have anything.

Aww. Those poor, helpless Arabs-Moslems. They do have a dedicated UN welfare agency that showers them with millions of infidel welfare dollars annually. How does Israel "not allow" the welfare fraudsters to "not have" that?

Do you have a handy conspiracy theory to address that?

Sure, they never needed welfare before Israel stole all their stuff.

Then along came Israel now we have two countries on welfare.

Your conspiracy theories are a hoot.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It is not complex. Israel does not want the Palestinians to build anything in Israel or the west bank.

Of course its complex: issues of urban planning, private land ownership, growing population which refuses to relocate, illegal building, lack of infrastructure, stealing utilities, corrupt local governments, non-payment of taxes....

Take a look at the issues and maybe then we can discuss possible solutions.

It is really simple. Israel will not allow the Palestinians to have anything.

Aww. Those poor, helpless Arabs-Moslems. They do have a dedicated UN welfare agency that showers them with millions of infidel welfare dollars annually. How does Israel "not allow" the welfare fraudsters to "not have" that?

Do you have a handy conspiracy theory to address that?

Sure, they never needed welfare before Israel stole all their stuff.

Then along came Israel now we have two countries on welfare.

Your conspiracy theories are a hoot.

Oh jeese, more CIA propaganda.

 

[Shusha]

It is not complex. Israel does not want the Palestinians to build anything in Israel or the west bank.

Of course its complex: issues of urban planning, private land ownership, growing population which refuses to relocate, illegal building, lack of infrastructure, stealing utilities, corrupt local governments, non-payment of taxes....

Take a look at the issues and maybe then we can discuss possible solutions.

It is really simple. Israel will not allow the Palestinians to have anything.

Translation: I refuse to look at the actual facts and discuss complex solutions to complex problems. I just wanna demonize Israel.

 

[MJB12741]

It is not complex. Israel does not want the Palestinians to build anything in Israel or the west bank.

Of course its complex: issues of urban planning, private land ownership, growing population which refuses to relocate, illegal building, lack of infrastructure, stealing utilities, corrupt local governments, non-payment of taxes....

Take a look at the issues and maybe then we can discuss possible solutions.

It is really simple. Israel will not allow the Palestinians to have anything.

You mean Israel took away their bomb straps?

 

[Shusha]

I didn't say that. It is just that I have seen no articles on that specific topic. It is mentioned all over the place when reporting other issues. I have seen it in print but I don't save links.

The point being I find it rather difficult to FIND articles on that specific topic. That its mentioned "all over the place" means nothing. Lots of things are mentioned "all over the place". Doesn't make them true.

You can't hear and I can't see so we prefer different media.

Lol. True.

I posted three videos that say what I said. That is three out of three from three different sources. How can you miss it?

There is a HUGE difference between an Arab Israeli saying to the Pallywood camera "I can't get a building permit" and proving your original claim that Israel has institutional and legalized discrimination based solely on ethnicity.

Its clear from the articles I posted that the problem is complex.

 

[Sixties Fan]

It is not complex. Israel does not want the Palestinians to build anything in Israel or the west bank.

Of course its complex: issues of urban planning, private land ownership, growing population which refuses to relocate, illegal building, lack of infrastructure, stealing utilities, corrupt local governments, non-payment of taxes....

Take a look at the issues and maybe then we can discuss possible solutions.

It is really simple. Israel will not allow the Palestinians to have anything.

Define "Anything"

WOW, where have you been?

WOW !!!!!

You are unable to answer.

Surprise!!!

In other words, you cannot back up with evidence everything you think is ALL Israel's fault.

No sources, no evidence, all say so.

If one says so, it must be so.

Nothing new in the 2000 years endless attacks on Jews.

Just say it, they will believe it.

After all, it is only .....the Jews....

 

[MJB12741]

It is not complex. Israel does not want the Palestinians to build anything in Israel or the west bank.

Of course its complex: issues of urban planning, private land ownership, growing population which refuses to relocate, illegal building, lack of infrastructure, stealing utilities, corrupt local governments, non-payment of taxes....

Take a look at the issues and maybe then we can discuss possible solutions.

It is really simple. Israel will not allow the Palestinians to have anything.

Define "Anything"

WOW, where have you been?

WOW !!!!!

You are unable to answer.

Surprise!!!

In other words, you cannot back up with evidence everything you think is ALL Israel's fault.

No sources, no evidence, all say so.

If one says so, it must be so.

Nothing new in the 2000 years endless attacks on Jews.

Just say it, they will believe it.

After all, it is only .....the Jews....

Bur but, what about his highly acclaimed, peace loving, unbiased source of Salmon Abu Sitta?

 

[MJB12741]

Of course its complex: issues of urban planning, private land ownership, growing population which refuses to relocate, illegal building, lack of infrastructure, stealing utilities, corrupt local governments, non-payment of taxes....

Take a look at the issues and maybe then we can discuss possible solutions.

It is really simple. Israel will not allow the Palestinians to have anything.

Define "Anything"

WOW, where have you been?

WOW !!!!!

You are unable to answer.

Surprise!!!

In other words, you cannot back up with evidence everything you think is ALL Israel's fault.

No sources, no evidence, all say so.

If one says so, it must be so.

Nothing new in the 2000 years endless attacks on Jews.

Just say it, they will believe it.

After all, it is only .....the Jews....

Bur but, what about his highly acclaimed, peace loving, unbiased source of Salmon Abu Sitta?

Honestly, what will they come up with next to keep us laughing?

 

[MJB12741]

It is not complex. Israel does not want the Palestinians to build anything in Israel or the west bank.

Of course its complex: issues of urban planning, private land ownership, growing population which refuses to relocate, illegal building, lack of infrastructure, stealing utilities, corrupt local governments, non-payment of taxes....

Take a look at the issues and maybe then we can discuss possible solutions.

It is really simple. Israel will not allow the Palestinians to have anything.

Aww. Those poor, helpless Arabs-Moslems. They do have a dedicated UN welfare agency that showers them with millions of infidel welfare dollars annually. How does Israel "not allow" the welfare fraudsters to "not have" that?

Do you have a handy conspiracy theory to address that?

Gosh I wonder what the 5 billion in annual US aid to Palestinians is used for? Anybody know?

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RS22967.pdf

 

[MJB12741]

Whoops! My bad. Make that 5 billion bilateral US dollars to Palestinians since the mid 1990's. What good have the Palestinians used it for?

"Since the establishment of limited Palestinian self-rule in the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the mid-1990s, the U.S. government has committed more than $5 billion in bilateral economic and non-lethal security assistance to the Palestinians, who are among the world’s largest per capita recipients of international foreign aid."

 

[Sixties Fan]

Whoops! My bad. Make that 5 billion bilateral US dollars to Palestinians since the mid 1990's. What good have the Palestinians used it for?

"Since the establishment of limited Palestinian self-rule in the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the mid-1990s, the U.S. government has committed more than $5 billion in bilateral economic and non-lethal security assistance to the Palestinians, who are among the world’s largest per capita recipients of international foreign aid."

Here is one thing they just love to do, cheer on the Martyrs for their cause:

Fatah: Kill 37 Israelis, become a role model for Palestinian women - PMW Bulletins

 

[MJB12741]

Whoops! My bad. Make that 5 billion bilateral US dollars to Palestinians since the mid 1990's. What good have the Palestinians used it for?

"Since the establishment of limited Palestinian self-rule in the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the mid-1990s, the U.S. government has committed more than $5 billion in bilateral economic and non-lethal security assistance to the Palestinians, who are among the world’s largest per capita recipients of international foreign aid."

Here is one thing they just love to do, cheer on the Martyrs for their cause:

Fatah: Kill 37 Israelis, become a role model for Palestinian women - PMW Bulletins

You mean Palestinians use our billions of US foreign aid to hate Americans & do killings of their neighbor Israeli's? Gosh, who woulda thunk it?

 

[esthermoon]

I have always said that a secular democratic state for all the inhabitants of Palestine/Israel would be the solution. That's what the Muslims and Christians have wanted since the Mandate was signed in the 20s.

You must know that the Israelis want their country to be exclusively Jewish and they also want the Palestinian Territories to be part of Israel. Logically this means modern Israel is to be an apartheid state. Perhaps then the world will isolate the Zionist state as it did to white rule in South Africa.

It seems that not everybody in Israel wants a "Jews only" state.
This link says most Israelis support a referendum on this matter

Most Israelis support referendum on two states - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post

Israel is not a "Jew only" State. There are about 2.5 Million non Jews residing in Israel.
What the Arabs oppose is a State which is sovereign by Jews.
They want it to be ruled by Muslims like all the other Muslim/Arab States.
All 56 of them.

There are no non Muslims living in Saudi Arabia or Jordan.
They are Muslims only States.

You are mistaken; Israelis want their country to be a Jewish state.

Arabs-Moslems define their countries as Islamic states.

You're right Hollie for most of them it's true

 

[P F Tinmore]

You must know that the Israelis want their country to be exclusively Jewish and they also want the Palestinian Territories to be part of Israel. Logically this means modern Israel is to be an apartheid state. Perhaps then the world will isolate the Zionist state as it did to white rule in South Africa.

It seems that not everybody in Israel wants a "Jews only" state.
This link says most Israelis support a referendum on this matter

Most Israelis support referendum on two states - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post

Israel is not a "Jew only" State. There are about 2.5 Million non Jews residing in Israel.
What the Arabs oppose is a State which is sovereign by Jews.
They want it to be ruled by Muslims like all the other Muslim/Arab States.
All 56 of them.

There are no non Muslims living in Saudi Arabia or Jordan.
They are Muslims only States.

You are mistaken; Israelis want their country to be a Jewish state.

Arabs-Moslems define their countries as Islamic states.

You're right Hollie for most of them it's true

That is true. Palestine's constitution calls Palestine an Islamic state. It also states that all Palestinians are equal without regard to race, religion, sex, etc..

The result:

Women and Christians own land homes and businesses. Women drive around in their cars with their hair in the breeze, even in Gaza. In the "Hamas" government a Christian women was a cabinet minister. There are many Christians and women in parliament. Two women sit as judges in the Sharia court. The mayor of Bethlehem and the governor of the district of Ramallah are women. The mayor of Ramallah is a Christian woman.

And then there is Queen Rania of Jordan. (A Palestinian By the way.)



It seem that there are different levels of "Islamic State."

 

[MJB12741]

It seems that not everybody in Israel wants a "Jews only" state.
This link says most Israelis support a referendum on this matter

Most Israelis support referendum on two states - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post

Israel is not a "Jew only" State. There are about 2.5 Million non Jews residing in Israel.
What the Arabs oppose is a State which is sovereign by Jews.
They want it to be ruled by Muslims like all the other Muslim/Arab States.
All 56 of them.

There are no non Muslims living in Saudi Arabia or Jordan.
They are Muslims only States.

You are mistaken; Israelis want their country to be a Jewish state.

Arabs-Moslems define their countries as Islamic states.

You're right Hollie for most of them it's true

That is true. Palestine's constitution calls Palestine an Islamic state. It also states that all Palestinians are equal without regard to race, religion, sex, etc..

The result:

Women and Christians own land homes and businesses. Women drive around in their cars with their hair in the breeze, even in Gaza. In the "Hamas" government a Christian women was a cabinet minister. There are many Christians and women in parliament. Two women sit as judges in the Sharia court. The mayor of Bethlehem and the governor of the district of Ramallah are women. The mayor of Ramallah is a Christian woman.

And then there is Queen Rania of Jordan. (A Palestinian By the way.)



It seem that there are different levels of "Islamic State."

You bring up one good point. Ya gotta love Queen Rania of Jordan for taking good care of king Abdullah who refuses to grant any right of return to all other Palestinians. No wonder king Abduulah always seems to have a smile on his face.

 

[Shusha]

That is true. Palestine's constitution calls Palestine an Islamic state. It also states that all Palestinians are equal without regard to race, religion, sex, etc..

Whoa. Wouldn't that mean a state can call itself a Jewish state and also state that all people are equal without regard to race, religion, gender, etc? At least theoretically?

So then its just a matter of practice, yes?