How to end poverty and end crime all in one swoop

[danielpalos]

Equal protection of the law is all the socialism we need.

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Socialism is one of the problems, because laws that attempt to establish a responsibility to the collective ...
Cannot protect the individual's freedoms, ambitions, or property from the government.

One of the largest obstacles young people will encounter when starting a business is the government ...
At every level with zoning restrictions, licensing, permits, fees, workers comp insurance, unemployment insurance and matching SS and Medicare taxes on employees.

If a person is left to their ability to pursue their ambitions and produce at cost ...
They wouldn't need anything, and their success would not be hindered by government.

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A person may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law or denied equal protection of the laws

 

[Votto]

Equal protection of the law is all the socialism we need.

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Socialism is one of the problems, because laws that attempt to establish a responsibility to the collective ...
Cannot protect the individual's freedoms, ambitions, or property from the government.

One of the largest obstacles young people will encounter when starting a business is the government ...
At every level with zoning restrictions, licensing, permits, fees, workers comp insurance, unemployment insurance and matching SS and Medicare taxes on employees.

If a person is left to their ability to pursue their ambitions and produce at cost ...
They wouldn't need anything, and their success would not be hindered by government.

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A person may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law or denied equal protection of the laws

Why not? It happens every day

 

[DrLove]

You sub line suggests you knew “how to end poverty & crime” but offered little in the way of solutions Votto.
Stepford Dads maybe?

 

[BlackSand]

A person may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law or denied equal protection of the laws

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I specifically stated freedom, ambition and property ... And the government not only can take your property, but does take your property ...
as the direct result of law ... Quit pretending.

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[$ecular#eckler]

Put fathers back in the home.

No amount of government money being thrown at this will fix it. And yes, when it says fathers it means BIOLOGICAL fathers.

Thanks in advance.

Okay, how are you going to do it?

 

[BlackSand]

Indeed. The same reason we have fatherless homes is the same reason kids are seeking unethical easy ways to make money. Taking the easy road can often have deleterious effects on society at large. But in the end, not taking the easy path would ultimately be better for the father as well, they just have no wisdom to see it.

Again, you can't buy morality/wisdom for people, nor can you pass laws insisting they find some. And in a secular society and government where all they care about is money and power, verse moral fiber and wisdom, it stands to reason they are just as clueless to help these people are they are clueless to help themselves.

I mean really, the President's own son is a drug addict who chases whores.

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I cannot argue with a lot of what you posted ... But look at how many times you referred to "they".

That's a responsibility issue I think "we" should share.
I don't think "they" are going to find what they need, unless "we" help them.

I also don't think the government can do that without costing "us" more than it should, and continuing to fail "us".

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[danielpalos]

Equal protection of the law is all the socialism we need.

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Socialism is one of the problems, because laws that attempt to establish a responsibility to the collective ...
Cannot protect the individual's freedoms, ambitions, or property from the government.

One of the largest obstacles young people will encounter when starting a business is the government ...
At every level with zoning restrictions, licensing, permits, fees, workers comp insurance, unemployment insurance and matching SS and Medicare taxes on employees.

If a person is left to their ability to pursue their ambitions and produce at cost ...
They wouldn't need anything, and their success would not be hindered by government.

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A person may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law or denied equal protection of the laws

Why not? It happens every day

Not according to the law. Only illegals don't care about the law.

 

[danielpalos]

A person may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law or denied equal protection of the laws

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I specifically stated freedom, ambition and property ... And the government not only can take your property, but does take your property ...
as the direct result of law ... Quit pretending.

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Government is Socialism.

 

[BlackSand]

Government is Socialism.

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Not in this country, if it stuck to the actual enumerated powers it has been granted ...
which it doesn't.

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[danielpalos]

Government is Socialism.

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Not in this country, if it stuck to the actual enumerated powers it has been granted ...
which it doesn't.

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Of course it does.

nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

 

[BlackSand]

Of course it does.

nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

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Yeah ... Well compensation would be an issue in regards to anything the government spends money on that isn't an enumerated power.

Example:
Nowhere in Article I: sections 7 or 8 of the US Constitution does it grant the President of the United States the power to
Purchase 1,500,000 vaccine doses to donate to other foreign countries.

Don't argue ... That's just one example,
and you are always wrong in everything you think, and how you always poorly attempt to support it ...

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[Votto]

Equal protection of the law is all the socialism we need.

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Socialism is one of the problems, because laws that attempt to establish a responsibility to the collective ...
Cannot protect the individual's freedoms, ambitions, or property from the government.

One of the largest obstacles young people will encounter when starting a business is the government ...
At every level with zoning restrictions, licensing, permits, fees, workers comp insurance, unemployment insurance and matching SS and Medicare taxes on employees.

If a person is left to their ability to pursue their ambitions and produce at cost ...
They wouldn't need anything, and their success would not be hindered by government.

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A person may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law or denied equal protection of the laws

Why not? It happens every day

Not according to the law. Only illegals don't care about the law.

No, I think you will find a great many in government who don't care either.

 

[Votto]

Put fathers back in the home.

No amount of government money being thrown at this will fix it. And yes, when it says fathers it means BIOLOGICAL fathers.

Thanks in advance.

Okay, how are you going to do it?

LOL.

That type of thinking right there is what is wrong with the country

 

[Votto]

Perhaps a judge should look at whether the father of the child is married to the mother and if the father is a "good" father and husband as to what kind of sentencing they receive.

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A judge doesn't have that opportunity in regards to Mandatory Minimum Sentencing requirements.
But I understand what you are saying.


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We know what common sense solutions we should implement, but we are drowning in an ocean of bureaucracy and stupidity

Yea, I know what you are saying as well.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

unless they were in prison because they didnt have a father in the home,,

its a viscous cycle that needs addressed,,

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I am not saying that crimes will not lead to more crimes, a cycle of generational failure, or a less than productive environment.
I was simply pondering to what extent do we ensure that cycle continues, through our efforts to address non violent drug offenses
in a manner that requires the homes to be fatherless.

The responsibility of one's actions rests on them.
That includes our actions as a society and the consequences of those actions.

If we attempt to avoid the responsibility, to whatever degree it may exist, then we are also failing.
At that point, the premise of the OP could simply be changed to ... "If we were all better people, the world would be a better place".

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Perhaps a judge should look at whether the father of the child is married to the mother and if the father is a "good" father and husband as to what kind of sentencing they receive.

Yes I robbed that gas station but I did play hide and seek with my kids last week....

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Yall should get some conservatives to campaign on "spay and neuter blacks" and "send them back to Africa" policy initiatives....

Fantasizing about them on messageboards won't do much to solve the darkie problem.....but I guess it could make your insecurities feel better tho

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Blacks don't need us to do anything for them. THEY need to assume responsibility for their lives and those they create. They need to take responsibility for the cultural rot that has consumed their neighborhoods. Stop listening to demeaning music around their children. Stop letting the "village" raise their children. Stop supporting democrats. Etc...

 

[22lcidw]

36 Shocking Statistics on Fatherless Homes

In the United States, there are more than 64 million men who identify themselves as being a father. Out of that figure, only 26.5 million men are part of a home where they are married to a spouse a…

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Put fathers back in the home.

No amount of government money being thrown at this will fix it. And yes, when it says fathers it means BIOLOGICAL fathers.

Thanks in advance.

Statistics About Fatherless Homes

#1. 85% of youth who are currently in prison grew up in a fatherless home. (Texas Department of Corrections)

#2. 7 out of every 10 youth that are housed in state-operated correctional facilities, including detention and residential treatment, come from a fatherless home. (U.S. Department of Justice)

#3. 39% of students in the United States, from the first grade to their senior year of high school, do not have a father at home. Children without a father are 4 times more likely to be living in poverty than children with a father. (National Public Radio)

#4. Children from fatherless homes are twice as likely to drop out from school before graduating than children who have a father in their lives. (National Public Radio)

#5. 24.7 million children in the United States live in a home where their biological father is not present. That equates to 1 in every 3 children in the United States not having access to their father. (National Public Radio)

#6. Girls who live in a fatherless home have a 100% higher risk of suffering from obesity than girls who have their father present. Teen girls from fatherless homes are also 4 times more likely to become mothers before the age of 20. (National Public Radio)

#7. 57% of the fatherless homes in the United States involved African-American/Black households. Hispanic households have a 31% fatherless rate, while Caucasian/White households have a 20% fatherless rate. (National Public Radio)

#8. In 2011, 44% of children in homes headed by a single mother were living in poverty. Just 12% of children in married-couple families were living in poverty. (U.S. Census Bureau)

#9. Children who live in a single-parent home are more than 2 times more likely to commit suicide than children in a two-parent home. (The Lancet)

#10. 72% of Americans believe that a fatherless home is the most significant social problem and family problem that is facing their country. (National Center for Fathering)

#11. Only 68% of children will spend their entire childhood with an intact family. (U.S. Census Bureau)

#12. 75% of rapists are motivated by displaced anger that is associated with feelings of abandonment that involves their father. (U.S. Department of Justice)

#13. Living in a fatherless home is a contributing factor to substance abuse, with children from such homes accounting for 75% of adolescent patients being treated in substance abuse centers. (U.S. Department of Justice)

#14. 85% of all children which exhibit some type of a behavioral disorder come from a fatherless home. (U.S. Department of Justice)

#15. 90% of the youth in the United States who decide to run away from home, or become homeless for any reason, originally come from a fatherless home. (U.S. Department of Justice)

#16. 63% of youth suicides involve a child who was living in a fatherless home when they made their final decision. (U.S. Department of Justice)

#17. Children who live in a single-parent or step-family home report less schoolwork monitoring, less social supervision, and lower educational expectations than children who come from two-parent homes. (American Sociological Review)

#18. Even when poverty levels are equal, children who come from a two-parent home outperform children who come from a one-parent home. (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services)

#19. Within the African-American/Black community, about 2.5 million fathers live with their children, while 1.7 million fathers are not living with them. (Huffington Post)

#20. In a 2014 study, only 3% of single mothers fell into the strongest demographic groups, while 44% fell into the weakest demographic groups. (Brookings)

#21. About 40% of children in the United States are born to mothers who are not married. Over 60% of these children were born to mothers who were under the age of 30%. (CDC)

#22. 25% of children are the age of 18 are currently being raised without the presence of a father. Around 50% of single mothers have never married. 29% are divorced. Only 1 in 5 are either separated or widowed.

#23. In single-mother households, 50% involve just one child. 30% of single mothers are raising two children on their own. (U.S. Census Bureau)

#24. 27% of single mothers were jobless for the entire year while taking care of their children. Only 22% of those who were out of work were receiving unemployment benefits at the time. (U.S. Census Bureau)

#25. The median income for a household with a single mother is $35,400. The median income for a home with a married couple raising their children is $85,300 in the United States. Two-thirds of low-income working families with children are in the African-American community. (U.S. Census Bureau)

#26. Over 30% of fatherless homes are classified as being food insecure, yet only 13% of homes will utilize the services of a food pantry. Over 30% of fatherless homes also spend more than half of their income on housing costs, which classifies the household as experiencing a severe housing burden. (U.S. Department of Agriculture)

#27. In the United States, Mississippi has the highest number of fatherless homes, with 36% of households falling into the category. Louisiana comes in second at 34%, while Alabama is third at 31%. (U.S. Census Bureau)

#28. Children who live in a fatherless home are 279% more likely to deal drugs or carry firearms for offensive purposes compared to children who live with their fathers. (Allen and Lo)

#29. 92% of the parents who are currently in prison in the United States are fathers. (Glaze and Maruschak)

#30. Pregnant women who do not have the support of the father experience pregnancy loss at a 48% rate. When the father is present, the prevalence of pregnancy loss falls to 22%. (Shah, Gee, and Theall)

#31. For single dads, 39% of households had a family income which was $50,000 or more. 44% of single dads were divorced, while only 33% had never married. (U.S. Census Bureau)

#32. 43% of fathers do not see their role as something that is important to their personal identity. 54% of fathers in the U.S. say that parenting isn’t enjoyable all of the time. (Pew Research)

#33. Even in homes with fathers, the modern dad spends only 8 hours per week on child care, which is 6 hours less than the modern mom. On the other hand, 43% of the modern dad’s time is spent with paid work, compared to 25% of the time for the modern mom. Dads are spending 3 times more time with their kids than dads did in 1965. (Pew Research)

#34. Only 5% of households in the United States say that the ideal situation is to have the mother work and the father stay home to take care of the children. (Pew Research)

#35. 53% of Americans say that mothers do a better job at parenting than fathers. Only 1% of Americans say that fathers are able to do a better job at parenting than mothers. (Pew Research)

#36. 70% of adults say it is equally important for a newborn to spend time bonding with their father and their mother. (Pew Research)

it wont end it, but it sure will reduce it a LOT,,,

And that is why the Progs will be endless.

 

[BlackSand]

Yall should get some conservatives to campaign on "spay and neuter blacks" and "send them back to Africa" policy initiatives....

Fantasizing about them on messageboards won't do much to solve the darkie problem.....but I guess it could make your insecurities feel better tho

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The OP didn't segregate by race, however the second post of the thread did.

In the case of the second post, it's just another example of how racial division is used by the government, political pundits and intellectuals
to promote more racial division ... Much like bureaucracy begetting more bureaucracy.

It will never solve anything, because it is used to promote division, and that is all it is ever worth.
The Establishment keeping everyone exactly where they are, on both sides of the aisle and in the middle.

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[22lcidw]

Equal protection of the law is all the socialism we need.

.

Socialism is one of the problems, because laws that attempt to establish a responsibility to the collective ...
Cannot protect the individual's freedoms, ambitions, or property from the government.

One of the largest obstacles young people will encounter when starting a business is the government ...
At every level with zoning restrictions, licensing, permits, fees, workers comp insurance, unemployment insurance and matching SS and Medicare taxes on employees.

If a person is left to their ability to pursue their ambitions and produce at cost ...
They wouldn't need anything, and their success would not be hindered by government.

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A person may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law or denied equal protection of the laws

How many opportunities does that person get?