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"MAGNANVILLE, France — The first time Larossi Abballa appeared on the radar of French terrorism investigators, the only act of violence they could pin on him was killing bunnies.
He had joined a small group of men, all bent on waging jihad, on a trip to a snowy forest in northern France five years ago, when he was 19. There, they videotaped themselves slaughtering the rabbits, bought so the men could grow used to the feel of killing.
Above is a story of how terrorists become radicalized to kill. However, how does one prevent this when suspected terrorists have no actually committed a crime?
The Orlando shooter was in a similar situation. His behavior was concerning but did not warrant arrest. In fact, they did not even take him off the no buying guns list.
Here are the current methods for dealing with the grave situation. They can't be locked up forever but we certainly don't want them to be 100% free to do as they please.
1. No fly lists. A group of men/women sit around deciding who is dangerous and who is not and put them on the list accordingly. The criteria is sketchy at best as well as random.
2. No gun lists. Some say that this should mirror the no fly lists.
3. Political correctness. PC is a means of shaming people into saying and behaving in a certain way, they the added social pressure of losing your job if you don't. When it comes to terrorists, I don't think this is a very potent way to control people, even though it seems to work for most everyone else.
So the issue is what to do with people in society who's freedoms you wish to strip away because they are dangerous, without actually locking them up in jail. Trump supporters might propose deportation, but I think most Progs prefer allowing them to stay in the US so long as their rights are stripped from them. In fact, should we expand the list to include a no drive list, and no entrance to major sporting events list etc?
He had joined a small group of men, all bent on waging jihad, on a trip to a snowy forest in northern France five years ago, when he was 19. There, they videotaped themselves slaughtering the rabbits, bought so the men could grow used to the feel of killing.
Above is a story of how terrorists become radicalized to kill. However, how does one prevent this when suspected terrorists have no actually committed a crime?
The Orlando shooter was in a similar situation. His behavior was concerning but did not warrant arrest. In fact, they did not even take him off the no buying guns list.
Here are the current methods for dealing with the grave situation. They can't be locked up forever but we certainly don't want them to be 100% free to do as they please.
1. No fly lists. A group of men/women sit around deciding who is dangerous and who is not and put them on the list accordingly. The criteria is sketchy at best as well as random.
2. No gun lists. Some say that this should mirror the no fly lists.
3. Political correctness. PC is a means of shaming people into saying and behaving in a certain way, they the added social pressure of losing your job if you don't. When it comes to terrorists, I don't think this is a very potent way to control people, even though it seems to work for most everyone else.
So the issue is what to do with people in society who's freedoms you wish to strip away because they are dangerous, without actually locking them up in jail. Trump supporters might propose deportation, but I think most Progs prefer allowing them to stay in the US so long as their rights are stripped from them. In fact, should we expand the list to include a no drive list, and no entrance to major sporting events list etc?
