How the parties have changed since 1980

[pknopp]

How to sift out the pure idiots.

Every scintilla of evidence released strongly suggests that the "riot" was allowed to happen, if not deliberately spurred on.

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"Strongly suggests"......lol

"But mom, they made me do it".

Lol

 

[Hafar1014]

I did not really start following politics until 2015. Honestly didn’t care all that much beforehand. From what I have read/watched. The Democratic Party has moved very far left.

Clinton was anti gay marriage. Obama was the deporter in chief. Democrats have seemingly embraced the wealthy while also pining for UH, vilifying wealthy persons and large corporations and seemingly for open borders and defunding the police. Sudden support of DEI and embracing the rainbow flag while vilifying the US flag. Pro Alphabet Mafia. Party surprisingly doesn’t want the straight white male vote.

Conversely the GOP has moved more toward populism. Likely as a response to the Democrats moving so far left. Highly secure borders, tougher H1B1 standards, pro policing, certainly pro 2A and pro life, pro capitalism, pro law and order (back the blue).

Both parties overspend, albeit for different reasons. Both parties have seemingly embraced vilifying Jews. GOP at least also vilifies Islam while the Democratic Party kowtows to it.

Both trying to win the podcast wars. Tough to tell who is winning. I’d give the GOP a slight edge. Democrats still control most of the main stream/old school media and Hollywood.

Overall I believe both parties have shifted so far from the middle (Democrats notably farther) that being a true independent voter is impossible.

Did I get this right? Fully? Partially?

No youre trying to make both parties appear the same. Democrats are today full blown socialists, anti America, putting wack jobs up to run for election, and will support anything that gives them power

 

[Harry Dresden]

No youre trying to make both parties appear the same. Democrats are today full blown socialists, anti America, putting wack jobs up to run for election, and will support anything that gives them power

they are the same....they call each other the same names....they accuse each other of doing the same things...they both want power over the other....the die hards in each party thinks their shit dont stink...

 

[Hafar1014]

they are the same....they call each other the same names....they accuse each other of doing the same things...they both want power over the other....the die hards in each party thinks their shit dont stink...

Man up and choose a side instead of complaining about everything

 

[SeaMajor7]

It is a symptom of their disease.

When Mao was killing all those millions, I'm sure he thought he was the center of the road and that those who fought for the old guard were just so extreme they needed extermination.

That is how far alang1216 has gone.

The left has become an actual danger to anyone who does not bend the knee.

That brings up a key point about the demented LEFT.
Every retarded Marxist Leninist revolution that occurred in the 20th century REQUIRED MASS-MURDER to come to be.
The Marxist contaminated demented Democrats have chosen to embrace communism and they FEEL like some kind of revolutionaries. They FEEL that straight white Christian males are the ENEMY, their OPPRESSORS.
It's all a convoluted NARRATIVE, but they FEEL that it is real.
Well, they are going to have to conger up their inner Bolshevik rage and.......KILL US.
That's the ONLY way to attain their goals, just like the dirtbags did in the past.
But there's a problem with all that.
They don't have the BALLS.
They don't have the MEANS.
They don't have the NUMBERS.
They can't DO IT.
NOPE.
Thank GOD for the 2nd Amendment!
The People that they HATE are armed to the TEETH.
All they have is rampant ELECTION FRAUD like what they are doing in LA to support that communist POS black terrorist trained *****.
Oh, it will take a freaking MONTH to count all their fraudulent mail-in FAKE ballots, but that is all they've got.
CHEATING.
That's not going to cut it.
Again, they are going to HAVE TO resort to violence and murder to get their way.
Good luck with THAT, assholes.
Come GET US, I DARE YOU...

 

[citygator]

That brings up a key point about the demented LEFT.
Every retarded Marxist Leninist revolution that occurred in the 20th century REQUIRED MASS-MURDER to come to be.
The Marxist contaminated demented Democrats have chosen to embrace communism and they FEEL like some kind of revolutionaries. They FEEL that straight white Christian males are the ENEMY, their OPPRESSORS.
It's all a convoluted NARRATIVE, but they FEEL that it is real.
Well, they are going to have to conger up their inner Bolshevik rage and.......KILL US.
That's the ONLY way to attain their goals, just like the dirtbags did in the past.
But there's a problem with all that.
They don't have the BALLS.
They don't have the MEANS.
They don't have the NUMBERS.
They can't DO IT.
NOPE.
Thank GOD for the 2nd Amendment!
The People that they HATE are armed to the TEETH.
All they have is rampant ELECTION FRAUD like what they are doing in LA to support that communist POS black terrorist trained *****.
Oh, it will take a freaking MONTH to count all their fraudulent mail-in FAKE ballots, but that is all they've got.
CHEATING.
That's not going to cut it.
Again, they are going to HAVE TO resort to violence and murder to get their way.
Good luck with THAT, assholes.
Come GET US, I DARE YOU...

Democrats are not left. They are center right.

 

[SweetSue92]

I did not really start following politics until 2015. Honestly didn’t care all that much beforehand. From what I have read/watched. The Democratic Party has moved very far left.

Clinton was anti gay marriage. Obama was the deporter in chief. Democrats have seemingly embraced the wealthy while also pining for UH, vilifying wealthy persons and large corporations and seemingly for open borders and defunding the police. Sudden support of DEI and embracing the rainbow flag while vilifying the US flag. Pro Alphabet Mafia. Party surprisingly doesn’t want the straight white male vote.

Conversely the GOP has moved more toward populism. Likely as a response to the Democrats moving so far left. Highly secure borders, tougher H1B1 standards, pro policing, certainly pro 2A and pro life, pro capitalism, pro law and order (back the blue).

Both parties overspend, albeit for different reasons. Both parties have seemingly embraced vilifying Jews. GOP at least also vilifies Islam while the Democratic Party kowtows to it.

Both trying to win the podcast wars. Tough to tell who is winning. I’d give the GOP a slight edge. Democrats still control most of the main stream/old school media and Hollywood.

Overall I believe both parties have shifted so far from the middle (Democrats notably farther) that being a true independent voter is impossible.

Did I get this right? Fully? Partially?

You are correct in all of this, but left out the cultural aspect, which is huge.

In 1980, or at any rate in the late 80s when I came into late teenage/early adulthood years, the Right was the party of Tipper Gore--uncool judgmental Puritanical finger pointing everywhere.

Cancel Culture and Woke made that the arena of the Left in the 21st century.

I'm very very glad the kids have realized this and that Leftism is fundamentally uncool.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Democrats are not left. They are center right.

Yeah, and I'm an astronaut.
GTFOH.

 

[Mashmont]

I did not really start following politics until 2015. Honestly didn’t care all that much beforehand. From what I have read/watched. The Democratic Party has moved very far left.

Clinton was anti gay marriage. Obama was the deporter in chief. Democrats have seemingly embraced the wealthy while also pining for UH, vilifying wealthy persons and large corporations and seemingly for open borders and defunding the police. Sudden support of DEI and embracing the rainbow flag while vilifying the US flag. Pro Alphabet Mafia. Party surprisingly doesn’t want the straight white male vote.

Conversely the GOP has moved more toward populism. Likely as a response to the Democrats moving so far left. Highly secure borders, tougher H1B1 standards, pro policing, certainly pro 2A and pro life, pro capitalism, pro law and order (back the blue).

Both parties overspend, albeit for different reasons. Both parties have seemingly embraced vilifying Jews. GOP at least also vilifies Islam while the Democratic Party kowtows to it.

Both trying to win the podcast wars. Tough to tell who is winning. I’d give the GOP a slight edge. Democrats still control most of the main stream/old school media and Hollywood.

Overall I believe both parties have shifted so far from the middle (Democrats notably farther) that being a true independent voter is impossible.

Did I get this right? Fully? Partially?

Conservatives (maga) has had the same positions for 60 or more years. The left is unrecognizable. Trump is the most conservative- governing president since Coolidge. True conservatives love the guy. RINOs don’t.

 

[Greenbeard]

Trump is the most conservative- governing president since Coolidge.

No doubt the parallels to the 1920s are getting uncanny.

 

[citygator]

Yeah, and I'm an astronaut.
GTFOH.

Compared with true social-democratic or labor parties in other rich democracies, the Democratic Party's establishment wing is centrist or center-right economically. Compared to the far right Republican notsee wannabee Party the Democratic Party is to the left sure, but their socially progressive and economically capitalist support is right of center- by normal standards.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Man up and choose a side instead of complaining about everything

choose a side?.....you mean the lessor of 2 evils bullshit?..thats the reason we have such shitty politicians because people have your attitude....you must belong to one of the 2 parties that are destroying this country with their petty tit for tat bullshit.....no thanks i want the good politicians back not the bottom of the barrel ones...

 

[SeaMajor7]

Compared with true social-democratic or labor parties in other rich democracies, the Democratic Party's establishment wing is centrist or center-right economically. Compared to the far right Republican notsee wannabee Party the Democratic Party is to the left sure, but their socially progressive and economically capitalist support is right of center- by normal standards.

You can twist yourself into a pretzel all you want, you're only lying to yourself to absolve yourself any responsibilities for the sick and dangerously STUPID the demented LEFT Democrats are in REALITY.
GFY.

 

[SeaMajor7]

choose a side?.....you mean the lessor of 2 evils bullshit?..thats the reason we have such shitty politicians because people have your attitude....you must belong to one of the 2 parties that are destroying this country with their petty tit for tat bullshit.....no thanks i want the good politicians back not the bottom of the barrel ones...

You BOTH SIDES shtick is lame AF.

 

[Harry Dresden]

You BOTH SIDES shtick is lame AF.

so is your one side....

 

[struth]

Sorry your glorious cultural revolution is going to shit, comrade, at least you'll always have the shares of publicly traded corporations Chairman Trump has seized.

Buying something is the same as seizing it? That might the dumbest comparison in the history of the internet

 

[struth]

Democrats are not left. They are center right.

Interesting, that might be true today, and why most traditional dems have left the part since you been taken over and embraced demafacism

 

[Greenbeard]

Buying something is the same as seizing it? That might the dumbest comparison in the history of the internet

"Buying something"? You Marxists are getting creative, I'll give you that.

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[AzogtheDefiler]

Yeah, unable to address it. Gotcha. We need a fantasy section to send threads like this one to.

It was nonsensical. The parties could not be more disparate. You’re saying AOC and Rubio agree on 90% of the issues. Stop being obtuse.

 

[Hafar1014]

choose a side?.....you mean the lessor of 2 evils bullshit?..thats the reason we have such shitty politicians because people have your attitude....you must belong to one of the 2 parties that are destroying this country with their petty tit for tat bullshit.....no thanks i want the good politicians back not the bottom of the barrel ones...

You just want to complain and not take position. Look at the garbage democrats are running today. NAZIs socialists communists America haters Jew haters.