How the parties have changed since 1980

[Harry Dresden]

You're completely off base OP, as usual, you're as wrong as two left feet.

yea marc your sides shit dont stink.....

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Debt? Same.

War? Same.

Outright lies? Same?

Constantly sucking off Wall Street? Same.

Do I need to continue?

Yep

One doesn’t believe men may become women
One is pro life other is pro choice
One is pro 2A one is for confiscation
One is back the blue the other is defund the police
One is pro small Govt other is for big handouts

You’re an idiot

 

[Harry Dresden]

Why is it impossible to be an independent voter?

because if you side with one party or the other...your not independent...you are one of them for that election....a real independent doesnt vote for the so called "lessor" of 2 evils...

 

[pknopp]

Yep

One doesn’t believe men may become women
One is pro life other is pro choice

Neither are pro-life. As an.example.......here in WV we got tax cuts but cuts in day care funding. Some areas of the state are left without any day care. It's things like that that cause women to choose abortion.

One is pro 2A one is for confiscation

Trump is the only president of the last 3 to get gun restrictions overturned by the Supreme Court.

Remember when Trump said he wanted to confiscate the guns and ask questions later?

One is back the blue the other is defund the police

Jan 6.

One is pro small Govt other is for big handouts

LOL, now I'll crying I'm laughing so hard

You’re an idiot

Simply calling out your B.S.

 

[pknopp]

because if you side with one party or the other...your not independent...you are one of them for that election....a real independent doesnt vote for the so called "lessor" of 2 evils...

No argument. I won't say an independent will never vote R or D but they generally won't vote for someone to keep us out of wars but then cheer that same when they get us into wars.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Neither are pro-life. As an.example.......here in WV we got tax cuts but cuts in day care funding. Some areas of the state are left without any day care. It's things like that that cause women to choose abortion.




Trump is the only president of the last 3 to get gun restrictions overturned by the Supreme Court.

Remember when Trump said he wanted to confiscate the guns and ask questions later?



Jan 6.




LOL, now I'll crying I'm laughing so hard




Simply calling out your B.S.

Jan 6th doesn’t mean people don’t back the blue the rest of you drivel is nonsensical

 

[Oddball]

I did not really start following politics until 2015. Honestly didn’t care all that much beforehand. From what I have read/watched. The Democratic Party has moved very far left.

Clinton was anti gay marriage. Obama was the deporter in chief. Democrats have seemingly embraced the wealthy while also pining for UH, vilifying wealthy persons and large corporations and seemingly for open borders and defunding the police. Sudden support of DEI and embracing the rainbow flag while vilifying the US flag. Pro Alphabet Mafia. Party surprisingly doesn’t want the straight white male vote.

Conversely the GOP has moved more toward populism. Likely as a response to the Democrats moving so far left. Highly secure borders, tougher H1B1 standards, pro policing, certainly pro 2A and pro life, pro capitalism, pro law and order (back the blue).

Both parties overspend, albeit for different reasons. Both parties have seemingly embraced vilifying Jews. GOP at least also vilifies Islam while the Democratic Party kowtows to it.

Both trying to win the podcast wars. Tough to tell who is winning. I’d give the GOP a slight edge. Democrats still control most of the main stream/old school media and Hollywood.

Overall I believe both parties have shifted so far from the middle (Democrats notably farther) that being a true independent voter is impossible.

Did I get this right? Fully? Partially?

This shows how far let that Trump and the rest of the GOP are....And how even farther to the left that the GOP "moderates" are.

You think the moonbats are insane now, just let a Ron Paul or Barry Goldwater become the standard bearer and see what happens.

 

[pknopp]

Jan 6th doesn’t mean people don’t back the blue the rest of you drivel is nonsensical

Yeah, unable to address it. Gotcha. We need a fantasy section to send threads like this one to.

 

[candycorn]

Since 1980...

You could draw a straight line through every DNC candidate for President in terms of the year over year continuum of what the candidates stood for.

You'd have a hard time doing that with DNC candidates.

That being said, the rank and file state and lower level party officials are a bit of the inverse. You have a lot more diffusion on the left than the right.

 

[Chuz Life]

I did not really start following politics until 2015. Honestly didn’t care all that much beforehand.

Me, late 80's. Though I grew up in a home that didn't talk politics. I do remember the split, even in my own family, about the Vietnam War.

I also remember the time of "hippies," and I didn't agree with any of their protests.

The strongest first indicator of my eventual path was when Iran took over 50 U.S. hostages under Jimmy Carter, and how Ronald Reagan's election (whom I voted for) brought that shit to an end.

I started watching "Morton Downey Jr." and I enjoyed the way he would (in my view) give shit back to the hippie types when they dared challenge his views.

I didn't find out until much later that he was also Anti-Abortion.

From what I have read/watched. The Democratic Party has moved very far left.

Without question.

Clinton was anti gay marriage. Obama was the deporter in chief. Democrats have seemingly embraced the wealthy while also pining for UH, vilifying wealthy persons and large corporations and seemingly for open borders and defunding the police. Sudden support of DEI and embracing the rainbow flag while vilifying the US flag. Pro Alphabet Mafia. Party surprisingly doesn’t want the straight white male vote.

That's a pretty short list.

Conversely the GOP has moved more toward populism. Likely as a response to the Democrats moving so far left. Highly secure borders, tougher H1B1 standards, pro policing, certainly pro 2A and pro life, pro capitalism, pro law and order (back the blue).

I don't see that move at all. Especially when I consider the Tea Party movement and MAGA.

I think the "middle ground" shrank on social issues on an issue-by-issue basis, (country divisions) fueled also by Politicized Media, inspired by things like "Watergate."

Both parties overspend, albeit for different reasons.

fact.

Both parties have seemingly embraced vilifying Jews. GOP at least also vilifies Islam while the Democratic Party kowtows to it.

My family was very religious (Baptist.) My thoughts about "Jews" were more of a geological realization than the Jewish faith or politics.

Of course, we saw how Jews were persecuted in WW2in the Holocaust, in school. So I thought of them through that lens.

Israel is supposedly the birthplace of "Christianity," and the more I ever considered Israel being defeated, wiped off the face of the planet etc. I always considered that as "Christians are next."

As I have gotten older and become agnostic, I lost any sentiments I had for any "birthplace of Christianity" concerns I ever had, and I have even posted on here that there is a part of me that wouldn't care to let them fight it out.

Those were simpler times.

Both trying to win the podcast wars. Tough to tell who is winning. I’d give the GOP a slight edge.

They murdered Charlie Kirk for that reason.

Democrats still control most of the main stream/old school media and Hollywood.

Facts.

Overall I believe both parties have shifted so far from the middle (Democrats notably farther) that being a true independent voter is impossible.

Did I get this right? Fully? Partially?

Pretty much.

Good read.

 

[Eman623]

I did not really start following politics until 2015. Honestly didn’t care all that much beforehand. From what I have read/watched. The Democratic Party has moved very far left.

Clinton was anti gay marriage. Obama was the deporter in chief. Democrats have seemingly embraced the wealthy while also pining for UH, vilifying wealthy persons and large corporations and seemingly for open borders and defunding the police. Sudden support of DEI and embracing the rainbow flag while vilifying the US flag. Pro Alphabet Mafia. Party surprisingly doesn’t want the straight white male vote.

Conversely the GOP has moved more toward populism. Likely as a response to the Democrats moving so far left. Highly secure borders, tougher H1B1 standards, pro policing, certainly pro 2A and pro life, pro capitalism, pro law and order (back the blue).

Both parties overspend, albeit for different reasons. Both parties have seemingly embraced vilifying Jews. GOP at least also vilifies Islam while the Democratic Party kowtows to it.

Both trying to win the podcast wars. Tough to tell who is winning. I’d give the GOP a slight edge. Democrats still control most of the main stream/old school media and Hollywood.

Overall I believe both parties have shifted so far from the middle (Democrats notably farther) that being a true independent voter is impossible.

Did I get this right? Fully? Partially?

With the bases so far from the center, independents will be labeled rightists by the left and leftists by the right.

Doesn't matter. No one gets to define you but you.

Which is not to say the way both sides see themselves is the same. Rightists know they are on the right while leftists think they are mainstream.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I did not really start following politics until 2015. Honestly didn’t care all that much beforehand. From what I have read/watched. The Democratic Party has moved very far left.

Clinton was anti gay marriage. Obama was the deporter in chief. Democrats have seemingly embraced the wealthy while also pining for UH, vilifying wealthy persons and large corporations and seemingly for open borders and defunding the police. Sudden support of DEI and embracing the rainbow flag while vilifying the US flag. Pro Alphabet Mafia. Party surprisingly doesn’t want the straight white male vote.

Conversely the GOP has moved more toward populism. Likely as a response to the Democrats moving so far left. Highly secure borders, tougher H1B1 standards, pro policing, certainly pro 2A and pro life, pro capitalism, pro law and order (back the blue).

Both parties overspend, albeit for different reasons. Both parties have seemingly embraced vilifying Jews. GOP at least also vilifies Islam while the Democratic Party kowtows to it.

Both trying to win the podcast wars. Tough to tell who is winning. I’d give the GOP a slight edge. Democrats still control most of the main stream/old school media and Hollywood.

Overall I believe both parties have shifted so far from the middle (Democrats notably farther) that being a true independent voter is impossible.

Did I get this right? Fully? Partially?

Both parties are being dictated to by their extremes and it's leaving the rest of us without a political home. The gerrymandering wars will only make this worse. We're in a race to the bottom.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Just ask Massey.

Massey forgot how to politic. He wasn’t trying to win national elections, we was trying to WOW you 17 weirdos here and 73 others who have double the fun playing fence sitter.

 

[Oddball]

Both parties are being dictated to by their extremes and it's leaving the rest of us without a political home. The gerrymandering wars will only make this worse. We're in a race to the bottom.

^^^
Boilerplate for political nose pickers.

And this dude who has the nerve to call Trumpters a cult.

 

[BrokeLoser]

I did not really start following politics until 2015. Honestly didn’t care all that much beforehand. From what I have read/watched. The Democratic Party has moved very far left.

Clinton was anti gay marriage. Obama was the deporter in chief. Democrats have seemingly embraced the wealthy while also pining for UH, vilifying wealthy persons and large corporations and seemingly for open borders and defunding the police. Sudden support of DEI and embracing the rainbow flag while vilifying the US flag. Pro Alphabet Mafia. Party surprisingly doesn’t want the straight white male vote.

Conversely the GOP has moved more toward populism. Likely as a response to the Democrats moving so far left. Highly secure borders, tougher H1B1 standards, pro policing, certainly pro 2A and pro life, pro capitalism, pro law and order (back the blue).

Both parties overspend, albeit for different reasons. Both parties have seemingly embraced vilifying Jews. GOP at least also vilifies Islam while the Democratic Party kowtows to it.

Both trying to win the podcast wars. Tough to tell who is winning. I’d give the GOP a slight edge. Democrats still control most of the main stream/old school media and Hollywood.

Overall I believe both parties have shifted so far from the middle (Democrats notably farther) that being a true independent voter is impossible.

Did I get this right? Fully? Partially?

Great post. You nailed it on every single point.
The JFK Dems are long gone…the Democrat Party is propelled by Mexico’s people/foreigners, unconventional emotional freaks, degenerates and free shit beggars…and that’s it.
There are no sensible voters voting on real politics.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Both parties are being dictated to by their extremes and it's leaving the rest of us without a political home. The gerrymandering wars will only make this worse. We're in a race to the bottom.

Can you better articulate the point?
What policies are Republicans pushing that are “extreme” and out of alignment with longstanding American ideals?

 

[Oddball]

Jan 6.

How to sift out the pure idiots.

Every scintilla of evidence released strongly suggests that the "riot" was allowed to happen, if not deliberately spurred on.

 

[BrokeLoser]

As I see it, the GOP has moved so far to the Right it only makes the Dems look far left. Of course the are some far Left voices in the Dems but I think overall the party only leans Left.

Can you better articulate the point?
What policies are Republicans pushing that are “extreme” and out of alignment with longstanding American ideals?

 

[Harry Dresden]

No argument. I won't say an independent will never vote R or D but they generally won't vote for someone to keep us out of wars but then cheer that same when they get us into wars.

i dont know any independents like that.... the independents in name only do that...

 

[pknopp]

Massey forgot how to politic. He wasn’t trying to win national elections, we was trying to WOW you 17 weirdos here and 73 others who have double the fun playing fence sitter.

He was trying to do what Trump ran on doing.