How The Democrats Got To Bernie

7. Bernie Sanders, Marxist, leader of the Democrat Party, didnā€™t simply materialize from nothingā€¦.as Liberals claim about the origins of the universeā€¦.Nopeā€¦Bernie is the logical outcome of what the Democrat Party stands for.



The meaning of the term rights, today, represents what the Founders promised, and what the Left claims in will provide. The most important word in the Declaration of Independence is found here:

ā€œWe hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ā€¦ā€

The word is ā€˜secure.ā€™

That means that the most important function of government is to maintain pre-existing rights, not to create them, nor to dispense them. They are known and self-evident prior to the founding of our nation, are inalienable, whether one chooses to use them or not.

These are the rights:

Men are created equal, and enjoy the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.




8. Roosevelt took on a responsibility by government for ā€œone-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clad, ill-nourished.ā€
And claimed a duty of government to raise the ā€˜standard of living.ā€™


ā€œWe cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people ā€” whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth ā€” is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.ā€
ā€œinsecureā€? Hence, no limit on all the things government will now do.


These are not the rights America promised.


Can you hear Bernie in those words?
Bernie is not a Marxist he is a socialist, a Democratic socialist if you insist as a brainwashed functional moron. Socialism today everywhere but your bubble of Bologna is defined as a always democratic Fair capitalist with a good safety net. Okay, Babylon. LOL. "We are all socialists now!"--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed.



"James Carville to Bernie Sanders: ā€œAt least Iā€™m not a communistā€
Is Bernie Sanders a *mere* Socialist, or a full-blown commie? That will, of course, be a topic of debate in the general election should Bernie be the nominee.

Thatā€™s a debate that terrifies the Democrat establishment, which fears Bernie at the top of the ticket could cost them the White House and the House of Representatives."
James Carville to Bernie Sanders: "At least I'm not a communist"




The same fear that drove the Democrat Party to insist their states be called 'blue states' when everyone knows they are red.



1. Remember when the 'red states' were Democrat, 'cause, well, Democrats/Liberals were so closely identified with communists, reds, socialists....

Then the control of the media really paid off for the Leftists....and now the obfuscation is complete.


2. Red is traditionally associated with socialism and communism. The oldest symbol of socialism (and, by extension, communism) is the Red Flag, which dates back to the revolutions of 1848. The colour red was chosen to represent the blood of the workers who died in the struggle against capitalism. All major socialist and communist alliances and organisations ā€“ including the First, Second, and Third Internationals ā€“ used red as their official colour. The association between the colour red and communism is particularly strong. Communists use red much more often and more extensively than other ideologies use their respective traditional colours.

Ā§ In Europe and Latin America, red is also associated with parties of social democracy, and often their allies within the labour movement. Sometimes these parties use pink instead, as a "moderate" colour instead of the more "radical" red.

Ā§ In the United States, since the year 2000, the mass media have associated red with the Republican Party, despite the fact that the Republican Party is a conservative-leaning party.
Political colour - Wikipedia


3. "The former system made more sense and was deliberately changed by media partisans who didnā€™t like to suggest Democrats should be associated with the color red....Whatā€™s a little more surprising, however, is how easily Republicans fell in line, apparently without realizing the reason they went from blue to red overnight. Thereā€™s even a Republican-leaning opinion site called RedState.com. How shortsighted and gullible can you get?

That made even more sense because Reaganā€™s convictions were decidedly and unabashedly anti-red.

I propose to you itā€™s time we ā€“ real Americans, the rest of us ā€“ stopped being manipulated like this."
How red states turned blue and vice versa




4. The Democrats should be Grayā€¦.reminiscent of the outfits they wore when they were the Confederacy, and weā€™re Blueā€¦.the color we wore when we pried their slaves away from them.
 
So did Obama
The best that can be said about FDR is that he MAY have forestalled a socialist/communist revolution during the Great Depression.

Until now, perhaps?



Have you seen this, j?


As Hitler marched into Poland, Whittaker Chambers arranged a private meeting with Adolf Berle, President Rooseveltā€™s assistant Secā€™y of State. Chambers detailed the Communist espionage network, naming at least two dozen Soviet spies in Rooseveltā€™s administration, including Alger Hiss. Berle reported this to Roosevelt, who laughed, and told Berle to go f--- himself.
Arthur Herman, Joseph McCarthy: Reexaming the Life and Legacy of Americaā€™s Most Hated Senator, p. 60.

No action was taken, and in fact, Roosevelt promoted Hiss. Almost a decade later, Chambers was called before the HUAC and named Hiss as a Soviet agent. Hiss sued Chambers, at which time Chambers presented ā€œā€¦ four notes in Alger Hiss's handwriting, sixty-five typewritten copies of State Department documents and five strips of microfilm, some of which contained photographs of State Department documents. The press came to call these the"PumpkinPapers" Whittaker Chambers - Wikipedia)


Franklin wanted nothing more than to swim with the other sharks....Mussolini, Hitler, and most of all, Stalin.
Roosevelt welcomed Stalin's agents into his administration....had one living in the White House.
 
So, Socialism is kind of a gateway drug?


I can help....if you have a brain, that is.

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


None of the totalitarian forms of political plague have the slightest concern for human life: not communism (gulags), not Nazism (concentration camps), not Liberalism (abortion), not Progressivism (eugenics), not socialism (theft), not fascism (murder).

They only differ in the final outcome: slavery, serfdom, or death.

They all follow Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."



" Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
The Liberal Crackup


Get it now????
 
So did Obama
The best that can be said about FDR is that he MAY have forestalled a socialist/communist revolution during the Great Depression.

Until now, perhaps?



Have you seen this, j?

As Hitler marched into Poland, Whittaker Chambers arranged a private meeting with Adolf Berle, President Rooseveltā€™s assistant Secā€™y of State. Chambers detailed the Communist espionage network, naming at least two dozen Soviet spies in Rooseveltā€™s administration, including Alger Hiss. Berle reported this to Roosevelt, who laughed, and told Berle to go f--- himself.
Arthur Herman, Joseph McCarthy: Reexaming the Life and Legacy of Americaā€™s Most Hated Senator, p. 60.

No action was taken, and in fact, Roosevelt promoted Hiss. Almost a decade later, Chambers was called before the HUAC and named Hiss as a Soviet agent. Hiss sued Chambers, at which time Chambers presented ā€œā€¦ four notes in Alger Hiss's handwriting, sixty-five typewritten copies of State Department documents and five strips of microfilm, some of which contained photographs of State Department documents. The press came to call these the"PumpkinPapers" Whittaker Chambers - Wikipedia)


Franklin wanted nothing more than to swim with the other sharks....Mussolini, Hitler, and most of all, Stalin.
Roosevelt welcomed Stalin's agents into his administration....had one living in the White House.


The iniquities of Hussein stem, largely, from these two sources:

1. Blinded by borrowed radiance.


2. His adherence to the Muslim faith.
 
7. Bernie Sanders, Marxist, leader of the Democrat Party, didnā€™t simply materialize from nothingā€¦.as Liberals claim about the origins of the universeā€¦.Nopeā€¦Bernie is the logical outcome of what the Democrat Party stands for.



The meaning of the term rights, today, represents what the Founders promised, and what the Left claims in will provide. The most important word in the Declaration of Independence is found here:

ā€œWe hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ā€¦ā€

The word is ā€˜secure.ā€™

That means that the most important function of government is to maintain pre-existing rights, not to create them, nor to dispense them. They are known and self-evident prior to the founding of our nation, are inalienable, whether one chooses to use them or not.

These are the rights:

Men are created equal, and enjoy the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.




8. Roosevelt took on a responsibility by government for ā€œone-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clad, ill-nourished.ā€
And claimed a duty of government to raise the ā€˜standard of living.ā€™


ā€œWe cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people ā€” whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth ā€” is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.ā€
ā€œinsecureā€? Hence, no limit on all the things government will now do.


These are not the rights America promised.


Can you hear Bernie in those words?
Bernie is not a Marxist he is a socialist, a Democratic socialist if you insist as a brainwashed functional moron. Socialism today everywhere but your bubble of Bologna is defined as a always democratic Fair capitalist with a good safety net. Okay, Babylon. LOL. "We are all socialists now!"--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed.



"Bernie is not a Marxist he is a socialist, a Democratic socialist ..."


Yeah, he is.

Always has been, you dope.


1. " [At] the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young Peopleā€™s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

2. ...graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American Peopleā€™s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as ā€œAmericaā€™s greatest Marxist.ā€ Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post


a. Eugene Victor Debs, Bernie's paragon: "... Debs agreed with the left wing of the Socialist Partyā€”people like Bill Haywood and Mother Jones, who would help found the Industrial Workers of the World (the 'Wobblies). They advocated workers taking control where the power of the ruling class was rootedā€”in the factories. ... Within the SP, members had verydifferent ideas about socialism and how it would be achieved. Some believed in socialism as a steady increase in social reforms achieved by socialists being elected to political officeā€”others looked to a revolutionary transformation of society.....

Eventually, those leftists who remained in the SP quit to help form a new Communist Party on the model of what Lenin and the Bolsheviks had built in Russia. Debs, while he supported the Russian Revolution and remained a revolutionary, nonetheless stayed in the SP." Socialism according to Eugene V. Debs


Still imagine there is any great difference between socialists and communists....and Bernie?



3. This subversive hero of Sanders, [Eugene Victor Debs,] denounced even by liberal Democrats as a ā€œtraitor,ā€ bashed ā€œthe barons of Wall Streetā€ and hailed the ā€œtriumphantā€ Bolshevik revolution in Russia.


ā€œThose Russian comrades of ours have made greater sacrifices, have suffered more, and have shed more heroic blood than any like number of men and women anywhere on Earth,ā€ Debs proclaimed. ā€œThey have laid the foundation of the first real democracy that ever drew the breath of life in this world.ā€ Socialism according to Eugene V. Debs


4. "In a 1918 speech in Canton, Ohio, Debs reaffirmed his solidarity with Lenin and Trotsky, despite clear evidence of their violent plunder and treachery. Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office." NYPost, Op. Cit.


This Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."
Now about the Democrat Party elite, Bernie Sanders: Communist, Socialist, Liberal, and Progressive


5." ... Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies. [Before Maxine Waters, too!]

... Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor ā€œdoes not believe in free enterprise.ā€


6. His radical activities didnā€™t stop at the waterā€™s edge. Sanders took several ā€œgoodwillā€ trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a ā€œheroic revolution.ā€ Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administrationā€™s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

ā€œThe Sandinista government has more support among the Nicaraguan people ā€” substantially more support ā€” than Ronald Reagan has among the American people,ā€ Sanders told Vermont government-access TV in 1985." Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post


(BTW...Ortega and the Sandinistas were voted out of power in 1990. Ortega ran for election again, in October 1996 and November 2001, but lost on both occasions)





7. "Sanders also adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow and honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.


Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council ā€” a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to ā€œthe triumph of Soviet power in the US.ā€ Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post



8."Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies ā€œout of business.ā€ He also wants to break up ā€œbig banksā€ and control the energy industry, while providing ā€œfreeā€ college tuition, a ā€œliving wageā€ and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects.

Price tag: $18 trillion.

Who will pay for it all? You will. Sanders plans to not only soak the rich with a 90 percent-plus tax rate, while charging Wall Street a ā€œspeculation tax,ā€ but hit every American with a ā€œglobal-warming tax.ā€

Of course, even that wouldnā€™t cover the cost of his communist schemes; a President Sanders would eventually soak the middle class he claims to champion. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, right?



9. Sanders and his Sanderistas are all still pining for what Debs called ā€œthe Greater Revolution yet to come.ā€

Whatā€™s revolting is how this hardcore commieā€™s campaign has gotten this far. With his ascendancy in both Iowa and New Hampshire, Sanders is no longer just a fool; heā€™s now a dangerous fool.

While it may be hard to hate the old codger, itā€™s easy ā€” and virtuous ā€” to hate his un-American ideas. They should be swept into the dustbin with the rest of communist history."
Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post




The only difference between a socialist and a communist is the demand for an armed revolution.
The communists are always socialists until their strong enough to kill the opposition.

Do you still seriously believe that anyone actually reads your 2,000 word screeds? :laughing0301:
 
7. Bernie Sanders, Marxist, leader of the Democrat Party, didnā€™t simply materialize from nothingā€¦.as Liberals claim about the origins of the universeā€¦.Nopeā€¦Bernie is the logical outcome of what the Democrat Party stands for.



The meaning of the term rights, today, represents what the Founders promised, and what the Left claims in will provide. The most important word in the Declaration of Independence is found here:

ā€œWe hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ā€¦ā€

The word is ā€˜secure.ā€™

That means that the most important function of government is to maintain pre-existing rights, not to create them, nor to dispense them. They are known and self-evident prior to the founding of our nation, are inalienable, whether one chooses to use them or not.

These are the rights:

Men are created equal, and enjoy the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.




8. Roosevelt took on a responsibility by government for ā€œone-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clad, ill-nourished.ā€
And claimed a duty of government to raise the ā€˜standard of living.ā€™


ā€œWe cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people ā€” whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth ā€” is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.ā€
ā€œinsecureā€? Hence, no limit on all the things government will now do.


These are not the rights America promised.


Can you hear Bernie in those words?
Bernie is not a Marxist he is a socialist, a Democratic socialist if you insist as a brainwashed functional moron. Socialism today everywhere but your bubble of Bologna is defined as a always democratic Fair capitalist with a good safety net. Okay, Babylon. LOL. "We are all socialists now!"--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed.



"Bernie is not a Marxist he is a socialist, a Democratic socialist ..."


Yeah, he is.

Always has been, you dope.


1. " [At] the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young Peopleā€™s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

2. ...graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American Peopleā€™s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as ā€œAmericaā€™s greatest Marxist.ā€ Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post


a. Eugene Victor Debs, Bernie's paragon: "... Debs agreed with the left wing of the Socialist Partyā€”people like Bill Haywood and Mother Jones, who would help found the Industrial Workers of the World (the 'Wobblies). They advocated workers taking control where the power of the ruling class was rootedā€”in the factories. ... Within the SP, members had verydifferent ideas about socialism and how it would be achieved. Some believed in socialism as a steady increase in social reforms achieved by socialists being elected to political officeā€”others looked to a revolutionary transformation of society.....

Eventually, those leftists who remained in the SP quit to help form a new Communist Party on the model of what Lenin and the Bolsheviks had built in Russia. Debs, while he supported the Russian Revolution and remained a revolutionary, nonetheless stayed in the SP." Socialism according to Eugene V. Debs


Still imagine there is any great difference between socialists and communists....and Bernie?



3. This subversive hero of Sanders, [Eugene Victor Debs,] denounced even by liberal Democrats as a ā€œtraitor,ā€ bashed ā€œthe barons of Wall Streetā€ and hailed the ā€œtriumphantā€ Bolshevik revolution in Russia.


ā€œThose Russian comrades of ours have made greater sacrifices, have suffered more, and have shed more heroic blood than any like number of men and women anywhere on Earth,ā€ Debs proclaimed. ā€œThey have laid the foundation of the first real democracy that ever drew the breath of life in this world.ā€ Socialism according to Eugene V. Debs


4. "In a 1918 speech in Canton, Ohio, Debs reaffirmed his solidarity with Lenin and Trotsky, despite clear evidence of their violent plunder and treachery. Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office." NYPost, Op. Cit.


This Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."
Now about the Democrat Party elite, Bernie Sanders: Communist, Socialist, Liberal, and Progressive


5." ... Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies. [Before Maxine Waters, too!]

... Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor ā€œdoes not believe in free enterprise.ā€


6. His radical activities didnā€™t stop at the waterā€™s edge. Sanders took several ā€œgoodwillā€ trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a ā€œheroic revolution.ā€ Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administrationā€™s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

ā€œThe Sandinista government has more support among the Nicaraguan people ā€” substantially more support ā€” than Ronald Reagan has among the American people,ā€ Sanders told Vermont government-access TV in 1985." Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post


(BTW...Ortega and the Sandinistas were voted out of power in 1990. Ortega ran for election again, in October 1996 and November 2001, but lost on both occasions)





7. "Sanders also adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow and honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.


Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council ā€” a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to ā€œthe triumph of Soviet power in the US.ā€ Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post



8."Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies ā€œout of business.ā€ He also wants to break up ā€œbig banksā€ and control the energy industry, while providing ā€œfreeā€ college tuition, a ā€œliving wageā€ and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects.

Price tag: $18 trillion.

Who will pay for it all? You will. Sanders plans to not only soak the rich with a 90 percent-plus tax rate, while charging Wall Street a ā€œspeculation tax,ā€ but hit every American with a ā€œglobal-warming tax.ā€

Of course, even that wouldnā€™t cover the cost of his communist schemes; a President Sanders would eventually soak the middle class he claims to champion. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, right?



9. Sanders and his Sanderistas are all still pining for what Debs called ā€œthe Greater Revolution yet to come.ā€

Whatā€™s revolting is how this hardcore commieā€™s campaign has gotten this far. With his ascendancy in both Iowa and New Hampshire, Sanders is no longer just a fool; heā€™s now a dangerous fool.

While it may be hard to hate the old codger, itā€™s easy ā€” and virtuous ā€” to hate his un-American ideas. They should be swept into the dustbin with the rest of communist history."
Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post




The only difference between a socialist and a communist is the demand for an armed revolution.
The communists are always socialists until their strong enough to kill the opposition.

Do you still seriously believe that anyone actually reads your 2,000 word screeds? :laughing0301:




I wish I had a nickel for each of the imbeciles...you.....who posted emoticons on a dozen of my posts in the thread....then claimed he doesn't read my posts.
 
So did Obama
The best that can be said about FDR is that he MAY have forestalled a socialist/communist revolution during the Great Depression.

No, Obama merely capitalized on the banking crisis to funnel $billions to his friends and supporters. With the exception of the Obamacare chicanery, the rest of his socialist ideas were voted down by Congress.
 
7. Bernie Sanders, Marxist, leader of the Democrat Party, didnā€™t simply materialize from nothingā€¦.as Liberals claim about the origins of the universeā€¦.Nopeā€¦Bernie is the logical outcome of what the Democrat Party stands for.



The meaning of the term rights, today, represents what the Founders promised, and what the Left claims in will provide. The most important word in the Declaration of Independence is found here:

ā€œWe hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ā€¦ā€

The word is ā€˜secure.ā€™

That means that the most important function of government is to maintain pre-existing rights, not to create them, nor to dispense them. They are known and self-evident prior to the founding of our nation, are inalienable, whether one chooses to use them or not.

These are the rights:

Men are created equal, and enjoy the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.




8. Roosevelt took on a responsibility by government for ā€œone-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clad, ill-nourished.ā€
And claimed a duty of government to raise the ā€˜standard of living.ā€™


ā€œWe cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people ā€” whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth ā€” is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.ā€
ā€œinsecureā€? Hence, no limit on all the things government will now do.


These are not the rights America promised.


Can you hear Bernie in those words?
Bernie is not a Marxist he is a socialist, a Democratic socialist if you insist as a brainwashed functional moron. Socialism today everywhere but your bubble of Bologna is defined as a always democratic Fair capitalist with a good safety net. Okay, Babylon. LOL. "We are all socialists now!"--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed.



"Bernie is not a Marxist he is a socialist, a Democratic socialist ..."


Yeah, he is.

Always has been, you dope.


1. " [At] the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young Peopleā€™s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

2. ...graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American Peopleā€™s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as ā€œAmericaā€™s greatest Marxist.ā€ Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post


a. Eugene Victor Debs, Bernie's paragon: "... Debs agreed with the left wing of the Socialist Partyā€”people like Bill Haywood and Mother Jones, who would help found the Industrial Workers of the World (the 'Wobblies). They advocated workers taking control where the power of the ruling class was rootedā€”in the factories. ... Within the SP, members had verydifferent ideas about socialism and how it would be achieved. Some believed in socialism as a steady increase in social reforms achieved by socialists being elected to political officeā€”others looked to a revolutionary transformation of society.....

Eventually, those leftists who remained in the SP quit to help form a new Communist Party on the model of what Lenin and the Bolsheviks had built in Russia. Debs, while he supported the Russian Revolution and remained a revolutionary, nonetheless stayed in the SP." Socialism according to Eugene V. Debs


Still imagine there is any great difference between socialists and communists....and Bernie?



3. This subversive hero of Sanders, [Eugene Victor Debs,] denounced even by liberal Democrats as a ā€œtraitor,ā€ bashed ā€œthe barons of Wall Streetā€ and hailed the ā€œtriumphantā€ Bolshevik revolution in Russia.


ā€œThose Russian comrades of ours have made greater sacrifices, have suffered more, and have shed more heroic blood than any like number of men and women anywhere on Earth,ā€ Debs proclaimed. ā€œThey have laid the foundation of the first real democracy that ever drew the breath of life in this world.ā€ Socialism according to Eugene V. Debs


4. "In a 1918 speech in Canton, Ohio, Debs reaffirmed his solidarity with Lenin and Trotsky, despite clear evidence of their violent plunder and treachery. Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office." NYPost, Op. Cit.


This Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."
Now about the Democrat Party elite, Bernie Sanders: Communist, Socialist, Liberal, and Progressive


5." ... Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies. [Before Maxine Waters, too!]

... Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor ā€œdoes not believe in free enterprise.ā€


6. His radical activities didnā€™t stop at the waterā€™s edge. Sanders took several ā€œgoodwillā€ trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a ā€œheroic revolution.ā€ Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administrationā€™s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

ā€œThe Sandinista government has more support among the Nicaraguan people ā€” substantially more support ā€” than Ronald Reagan has among the American people,ā€ Sanders told Vermont government-access TV in 1985." Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post


(BTW...Ortega and the Sandinistas were voted out of power in 1990. Ortega ran for election again, in October 1996 and November 2001, but lost on both occasions)





7. "Sanders also adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow and honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.


Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council ā€” a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to ā€œthe triumph of Soviet power in the US.ā€ Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post



8."Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies ā€œout of business.ā€ He also wants to break up ā€œbig banksā€ and control the energy industry, while providing ā€œfreeā€ college tuition, a ā€œliving wageā€ and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects.

Price tag: $18 trillion.

Who will pay for it all? You will. Sanders plans to not only soak the rich with a 90 percent-plus tax rate, while charging Wall Street a ā€œspeculation tax,ā€ but hit every American with a ā€œglobal-warming tax.ā€

Of course, even that wouldnā€™t cover the cost of his communist schemes; a President Sanders would eventually soak the middle class he claims to champion. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, right?



9. Sanders and his Sanderistas are all still pining for what Debs called ā€œthe Greater Revolution yet to come.ā€

Whatā€™s revolting is how this hardcore commieā€™s campaign has gotten this far. With his ascendancy in both Iowa and New Hampshire, Sanders is no longer just a fool; heā€™s now a dangerous fool.

While it may be hard to hate the old codger, itā€™s easy ā€” and virtuous ā€” to hate his un-American ideas. They should be swept into the dustbin with the rest of communist history."
Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post




The only difference between a socialist and a communist is the demand for an armed revolution.
The communists are always socialists until their strong enough to kill the opposition.

Do you still seriously believe that anyone actually reads your 2,000 word screeds? :laughing0301:

the difference is socialist Democratic and communist totalitarian state have to be only about 35% of the people ever are in favor of Communism or Nazism or any other kind of totalitarianism. Or even the American revolution for that matter. the UK and the United States have the worst Savage capitalists in the world and always have. That's why they love to conflate socialists and Communists for dupes like you. The English speaking world is behind the times. most other countries have had socialist and communist parties at the same time and they are extremely different. And the Communists have now disappeared. Except for those with a gun to their head and in China Cuba and North Korea. And yes your spam is incredibly redundant and a gigantic pain.


I wish I had a nickel for each of the imbeciles...you.....who posted emoticons on a dozen of my posts in the thread....then claimed he doesn't read my posts.
the difference is socialist Democratic and communist totalitarian state have to be only about 35% of the people ever are in favor of Communism or Nazism or any other kind of totalitarianism. Or even the American revolution for that matter. the UK and the United States have the worst Savage capitalists in the world and always have. That's why they love to conflate socialists and Communists for dupes like you. The English speaking world is behind the times. most other countries have had socialist and communist parties at the same time and they are extremely different. And the Communists have now disappeared. Except for those with a gun to their head and in China Cuba and North Korea. And yes your spam is incredibly redundant and a gigantic pain.
 
Itā€™s bizarre that Republicans here defend Bernie Sanders when Republicans donā€™t let non-Republicans run for political office in their primaries.

and someone told me some really stupid thing that in Vermont itā€™s illegal to belong to a political party and that everybody is an independent even though the other senator and their house member are both Democrats.

Bernie is not a Democrat. He said he wonā€™t support democratic candidates. And he wonā€™t raise money for the Democratic Party.
I donā€™t think he should be allowed to run. Let him start his own party or he could join a party. Let him become a Democrat or Republican and then he could run in either one of those parties.

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Bernie help get Trump elected last time and heā€™s doing it again.
He did spend his honeymoon in the Soviet union a year before the iron curtain fell. You know, the wall? He seems to have more Russian connections than Trump.




Wow....you Democrats are really sweatin,' huh?

I love it



And this Democrat Congressman knows what that means:

ā€˜We lose 48 statesā€™: Democratic congressman says Trump would demolish a democratic socialist candidate
Ryan, an Ohio congressman who has endorsed Joe Biden since dropping out, argued that picking Bernie Sanders would be a mistake for Democrats. He told Fox News on Tuesday that the public would not support a self-described democratic socialist.

ā€œI, personally, am very, very concerned about some of the folks who are running,ā€ Ryan said. ā€œI think, you know, if we run under a democratic socialist banner in 50 states, I think we lose the industrial Midwest. I think we lose 48 states. I think we lose working-class union voters who have negotiated their private healthcare and want to keep it, and they donā€™t want to be forced into a public healthcare system.ā€

He added: ā€œYou lose those voters, and I think some of the other issues as well. I think that would be disastrous for us. I think Joe Biden is the absolute best candidate for us. I think he beats Donald Trump in the swing states and the industrial Midwest, and itā€™s going to be a new day in America.ā€
ā€˜We lose 48 statesā€™: Democratic congressman says Trump would demolish a democratic socialist candidate


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I admit I am worried. Bernie Sanders has no loyalty to anybody. He attacks a huge part of the electorate. Heā€™s not even a Democrat.
 
7. Bernie Sanders, Marxist, leader of the Democrat Party, didnā€™t simply materialize from nothingā€¦.as Liberals claim about the origins of the universeā€¦.Nopeā€¦Bernie is the logical outcome of what the Democrat Party stands for.



The meaning of the term rights, today, represents what the Founders promised, and what the Left claims in will provide. The most important word in the Declaration of Independence is found here:

ā€œWe hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ā€¦ā€

The word is ā€˜secure.ā€™

That means that the most important function of government is to maintain pre-existing rights, not to create them, nor to dispense them. They are known and self-evident prior to the founding of our nation, are inalienable, whether one chooses to use them or not.

These are the rights:

Men are created equal, and enjoy the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.




8. Roosevelt took on a responsibility by government for ā€œone-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clad, ill-nourished.ā€
And claimed a duty of government to raise the ā€˜standard of living.ā€™


ā€œWe cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people ā€” whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth ā€” is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.ā€
ā€œinsecureā€? Hence, no limit on all the things government will now do.


These are not the rights America promised.


Can you hear Bernie in those words?
Bernie is not a Marxist he is a socialist, a Democratic socialist if you insist as a brainwashed functional moron. Socialism today everywhere but your bubble of Bologna is defined as a always democratic Fair capitalist with a good safety net. Okay, Babylon. LOL. "We are all socialists now!"--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed.



"Bernie is not a Marxist he is a socialist, a Democratic socialist ..."


Yeah, he is.

Always has been, you dope.


1. " [At] the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young Peopleā€™s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

2. ...graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American Peopleā€™s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as ā€œAmericaā€™s greatest Marxist.ā€ Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post


a. Eugene Victor Debs, Bernie's paragon: "... Debs agreed with the left wing of the Socialist Partyā€”people like Bill Haywood and Mother Jones, who would help found the Industrial Workers of the World (the 'Wobblies). They advocated workers taking control where the power of the ruling class was rootedā€”in the factories. ... Within the SP, members had verydifferent ideas about socialism and how it would be achieved. Some believed in socialism as a steady increase in social reforms achieved by socialists being elected to political officeā€”others looked to a revolutionary transformation of society.....

Eventually, those leftists who remained in the SP quit to help form a new Communist Party on the model of what Lenin and the Bolsheviks had built in Russia. Debs, while he supported the Russian Revolution and remained a revolutionary, nonetheless stayed in the SP." Socialism according to Eugene V. Debs


Still imagine there is any great difference between socialists and communists....and Bernie?



3. This subversive hero of Sanders, [Eugene Victor Debs,] denounced even by liberal Democrats as a ā€œtraitor,ā€ bashed ā€œthe barons of Wall Streetā€ and hailed the ā€œtriumphantā€ Bolshevik revolution in Russia.


ā€œThose Russian comrades of ours have made greater sacrifices, have suffered more, and have shed more heroic blood than any like number of men and women anywhere on Earth,ā€ Debs proclaimed. ā€œThey have laid the foundation of the first real democracy that ever drew the breath of life in this world.ā€ Socialism according to Eugene V. Debs


4. "In a 1918 speech in Canton, Ohio, Debs reaffirmed his solidarity with Lenin and Trotsky, despite clear evidence of their violent plunder and treachery. Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office." NYPost, Op. Cit.


This Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."
Now about the Democrat Party elite, Bernie Sanders: Communist, Socialist, Liberal, and Progressive


5." ... Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies. [Before Maxine Waters, too!]

... Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor ā€œdoes not believe in free enterprise.ā€


6. His radical activities didnā€™t stop at the waterā€™s edge. Sanders took several ā€œgoodwillā€ trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a ā€œheroic revolution.ā€ Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administrationā€™s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

ā€œThe Sandinista government has more support among the Nicaraguan people ā€” substantially more support ā€” than Ronald Reagan has among the American people,ā€ Sanders told Vermont government-access TV in 1985." Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post


(BTW...Ortega and the Sandinistas were voted out of power in 1990. Ortega ran for election again, in October 1996 and November 2001, but lost on both occasions)





7. "Sanders also adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow and honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.


Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council ā€” a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to ā€œthe triumph of Soviet power in the US.ā€ Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post



8."Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies ā€œout of business.ā€ He also wants to break up ā€œbig banksā€ and control the energy industry, while providing ā€œfreeā€ college tuition, a ā€œliving wageā€ and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects.

Price tag: $18 trillion.

Who will pay for it all? You will. Sanders plans to not only soak the rich with a 90 percent-plus tax rate, while charging Wall Street a ā€œspeculation tax,ā€ but hit every American with a ā€œglobal-warming tax.ā€

Of course, even that wouldnā€™t cover the cost of his communist schemes; a President Sanders would eventually soak the middle class he claims to champion. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, right?



9. Sanders and his Sanderistas are all still pining for what Debs called ā€œthe Greater Revolution yet to come.ā€

Whatā€™s revolting is how this hardcore commieā€™s campaign has gotten this far. With his ascendancy in both Iowa and New Hampshire, Sanders is no longer just a fool; heā€™s now a dangerous fool.

While it may be hard to hate the old codger, itā€™s easy ā€” and virtuous ā€” to hate his un-American ideas. They should be swept into the dustbin with the rest of communist history."
Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post




The only difference between a socialist and a communist is the demand for an armed revolution.
The communists are always socialists until their strong enough to kill the opposition.

Do you still seriously believe that anyone actually reads your 2,000 word screeds? :laughing0301:

the difference is socialist Democratic and communist totalitarian state have to be only about 35% of the people ever are in favor of Communism or Nazism or any other kind of totalitarianism. Or even the American revolution for that matter. the UK and the United States have the worst Savage capitalists in the world and always have. That's why they love to conflate socialists and Communists for dupes like you. The English speaking world is behind the times. most other countries have had socialist and communist parties at the same time and they are extremely different. And the Communists have now disappeared. Except for those with a gun to their head and in China Cuba and North Korea. And yes your spam is incredibly redundant and a gigantic pain.


I wish I had a nickel for each of the imbeciles...you.....who posted emoticons on a dozen of my posts in the thread....then claimed he doesn't read my posts.
the difference is socialist Democratic and communist totalitarian state have to be only about 35% of the people ever are in favor of Communism or Nazism or any other kind of totalitarianism. Or even the American revolution for that matter. the UK and the United States have the worst Savage capitalists in the world and always have. That's why they love to conflate socialists and Communists for dupes like you. The English speaking world is behind the times. most other countries have had socialist and communist parties at the same time and they are extremely different. And the Communists have now disappeared. Except for those with a gun to their head and in China Cuba and North Korea. And yes your spam is incredibly redundant and a gigantic pain.



And.....another lesson for Blanko:


Communism or Capitalism? Finland and Estonia

In 1939 Finland and its southern neighbor Estonia were identical in many ways. Then, in 1940, the USSR occupied Estonia, and it remained under communist rule for 50 years. Here are the words of Mart Laar, Estoniaā€™s former prime minister, stating what communism did to his country:

ā€œLook at what happened in this context during these fifty years and then you can understand how terrible the communist system really is. And itā€™s not only in the economy. This is in all fields of lifeā€”the social structure, cultural standards, education, healthcare, or whatever. When you compare those two countries, which were exactly the same in 1939[,] in 1989, then you will find what communism really means, and how bad it is. Our economy, our nature, and our environment was [sic] destroyed.ā€

The conclusion:

Their economic and social differences grew so large that no informed person could honestly dispute the pernicious effect that communist rule had on occupied Estonia.

Finland and Estonia

In 1991 Estonia became capitalist, and experienced massive economic growth. They discovered the errors of progressive class warfare.




ā€œWhere has socialism ever worked?ā€



Do that face again, Blanko....
 
So did Obama
The best that can be said about FDR is that he MAY have forestalled a socialist/communist revolution during the Great Depression.

No, Obama merely capitalized on the banking crisis to funnel $billions to his friends and supporters. With the exception of the Obamacare chicanery, the rest of his socialist ideas were voted down by Congress.
if you donā€™t post any links backing up that nonsense then itā€™s just lying. Very unchristian. And if Obama was going to benefit so much, how come he didnā€™t end up with any of the money?
 
Itā€™s bizarre that Republicans here defend Bernie Sanders when Republicans donā€™t let non-Republicans run for political office in their primaries.

and someone told me some really stupid thing that in Vermont itā€™s illegal to belong to a political party and that everybody is an independent even though the other senator and their house member are both Democrats.

Bernie is not a Democrat. He said he wonā€™t support democratic candidates. And he wonā€™t raise money for the Democratic Party.
I donā€™t think he should be allowed to run. Let him start his own party or he could join a party. Let him become a Democrat or Republican and then he could run in either one of those parties.

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Bernie help get Trump elected last time and heā€™s doing it again.
He did spend his honeymoon in the Soviet union a year before the iron curtain fell. You know, the wall? He seems to have more Russian connections than Trump.




Wow....you Democrats are really sweatin,' huh?

I love it



And this Democrat Congressman knows what that means:

ā€˜We lose 48 statesā€™: Democratic congressman says Trump would demolish a democratic socialist candidate
Ryan, an Ohio congressman who has endorsed Joe Biden since dropping out, argued that picking Bernie Sanders would be a mistake for Democrats. He told Fox News on Tuesday that the public would not support a self-described democratic socialist.

ā€œI, personally, am very, very concerned about some of the folks who are running,ā€ Ryan said. ā€œI think, you know, if we run under a democratic socialist banner in 50 states, I think we lose the industrial Midwest. I think we lose 48 states. I think we lose working-class union voters who have negotiated their private healthcare and want to keep it, and they donā€™t want to be forced into a public healthcare system.ā€

He added: ā€œYou lose those voters, and I think some of the other issues as well. I think that would be disastrous for us. I think Joe Biden is the absolute best candidate for us. I think he beats Donald Trump in the swing states and the industrial Midwest, and itā€™s going to be a new day in America.ā€
ā€˜We lose 48 statesā€™: Democratic congressman says Trump would demolish a democratic socialist candidate


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I admit I am worried. Bernie Sanders has no loyalty to anybody. He attacks a huge part of the electorate. Heā€™s not even a Democrat.


Well.....he has loyalty to Marx......usually, that's enough for the Democrat Party.


You guys just want to keep that on the down-low.
 
So did Obama
The best that can be said about FDR is that he MAY have forestalled a socialist/communist revolution during the Great Depression.

No, Obama merely capitalized on the banking crisis to funnel $billions to his friends and supporters. With the exception of the Obamacare chicanery, the rest of his socialist ideas were voted down by Congress.
if you donā€™t post any links backing up that nonsense then itā€™s just lying. Very unchristian. And if Obama was going to benefit so much, how come he didnā€™t end up with any of the money?


Are you serious, deanie????

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So did Obama
The best that can be said about FDR is that he MAY have forestalled a socialist/communist revolution during the Great Depression.

No, Obama merely capitalized on the banking crisis to funnel $billions to his friends and supporters. With the exception of the Obamacare chicanery, the rest of his socialist ideas were voted down by Congress.
Yes because he was in favor of alternate energy instead of your heroes funneling trillions to big oil big pharma big health etc etc to the detriment of the populace....and it worked great except for solyndra which was destroyed by China dumping.
 
Bernie is not a Marxist he is a socialist, a Democratic socialist if you insist as a brainwashed functional moron. Socialism today everywhere but your bubble of Bologna is defined as a always democratic Fair capitalist with a good safety net. Okay, Babylon. LOL. "We are all socialists now!"--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed.



"Bernie is not a Marxist he is a socialist, a Democratic socialist ..."


Yeah, he is.

Always has been, you dope.


1. " [At] the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young Peopleā€™s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

2. ...graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American Peopleā€™s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as ā€œAmericaā€™s greatest Marxist.ā€ Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post


a. Eugene Victor Debs, Bernie's paragon: "... Debs agreed with the left wing of the Socialist Partyā€”people like Bill Haywood and Mother Jones, who would help found the Industrial Workers of the World (the 'Wobblies). They advocated workers taking control where the power of the ruling class was rootedā€”in the factories. ... Within the SP, members had verydifferent ideas about socialism and how it would be achieved. Some believed in socialism as a steady increase in social reforms achieved by socialists being elected to political officeā€”others looked to a revolutionary transformation of society.....

Eventually, those leftists who remained in the SP quit to help form a new Communist Party on the model of what Lenin and the Bolsheviks had built in Russia. Debs, while he supported the Russian Revolution and remained a revolutionary, nonetheless stayed in the SP." Socialism according to Eugene V. Debs


Still imagine there is any great difference between socialists and communists....and Bernie?



3. This subversive hero of Sanders, [Eugene Victor Debs,] denounced even by liberal Democrats as a ā€œtraitor,ā€ bashed ā€œthe barons of Wall Streetā€ and hailed the ā€œtriumphantā€ Bolshevik revolution in Russia.


ā€œThose Russian comrades of ours have made greater sacrifices, have suffered more, and have shed more heroic blood than any like number of men and women anywhere on Earth,ā€ Debs proclaimed. ā€œThey have laid the foundation of the first real democracy that ever drew the breath of life in this world.ā€ Socialism according to Eugene V. Debs


4. "In a 1918 speech in Canton, Ohio, Debs reaffirmed his solidarity with Lenin and Trotsky, despite clear evidence of their violent plunder and treachery. Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office." NYPost, Op. Cit.


This Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."
Now about the Democrat Party elite, Bernie Sanders: Communist, Socialist, Liberal, and Progressive


5." ... Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies. [Before Maxine Waters, too!]

... Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor ā€œdoes not believe in free enterprise.ā€


6. His radical activities didnā€™t stop at the waterā€™s edge. Sanders took several ā€œgoodwillā€ trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a ā€œheroic revolution.ā€ Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administrationā€™s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

ā€œThe Sandinista government has more support among the Nicaraguan people ā€” substantially more support ā€” than Ronald Reagan has among the American people,ā€ Sanders told Vermont government-access TV in 1985." Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post


(BTW...Ortega and the Sandinistas were voted out of power in 1990. Ortega ran for election again, in October 1996 and November 2001, but lost on both occasions)





7. "Sanders also adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow and honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.


Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council ā€” a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to ā€œthe triumph of Soviet power in the US.ā€ Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post



8."Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies ā€œout of business.ā€ He also wants to break up ā€œbig banksā€ and control the energy industry, while providing ā€œfreeā€ college tuition, a ā€œliving wageā€ and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects.

Price tag: $18 trillion.

Who will pay for it all? You will. Sanders plans to not only soak the rich with a 90 percent-plus tax rate, while charging Wall Street a ā€œspeculation tax,ā€ but hit every American with a ā€œglobal-warming tax.ā€

Of course, even that wouldnā€™t cover the cost of his communist schemes; a President Sanders would eventually soak the middle class he claims to champion. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, right?



9. Sanders and his Sanderistas are all still pining for what Debs called ā€œthe Greater Revolution yet to come.ā€

Whatā€™s revolting is how this hardcore commieā€™s campaign has gotten this far. With his ascendancy in both Iowa and New Hampshire, Sanders is no longer just a fool; heā€™s now a dangerous fool.

While it may be hard to hate the old codger, itā€™s easy ā€” and virtuous ā€” to hate his un-American ideas. They should be swept into the dustbin with the rest of communist history."
Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post




The only difference between a socialist and a communist is the demand for an armed revolution.
The communists are always socialists until their strong enough to kill the opposition.

Do you still seriously believe that anyone actually reads your 2,000 word screeds? :laughing0301:

the difference is socialist Democratic and communist totalitarian state have to be only about 35% of the people ever are in favor of Communism or Nazism or any other kind of totalitarianism. Or even the American revolution for that matter. the UK and the United States have the worst Savage capitalists in the world and always have. That's why they love to conflate socialists and Communists for dupes like you. The English speaking world is behind the times. most other countries have had socialist and communist parties at the same time and they are extremely different. And the Communists have now disappeared. Except for those with a gun to their head and in China Cuba and North Korea. And yes your spam is incredibly redundant and a gigantic pain.


I wish I had a nickel for each of the imbeciles...you.....who posted emoticons on a dozen of my posts in the thread....then claimed he doesn't read my posts.
the difference is socialist Democratic and communist totalitarian state have to be only about 35% of the people ever are in favor of Communism or Nazism or any other kind of totalitarianism. Or even the American revolution for that matter. the UK and the United States have the worst Savage capitalists in the world and always have. That's why they love to conflate socialists and Communists for dupes like you. The English speaking world is behind the times. most other countries have had socialist and communist parties at the same time and they are extremely different. And the Communists have now disappeared. Except for those with a gun to their head and in China Cuba and North Korea. And yes your spam is incredibly redundant and a gigantic pain.



And.....another lesson for Blanko:


Communism or Capitalism? Finland and Estonia

In 1939 Finland and its southern neighbor Estonia were identical in many ways. Then, in 1940, the USSR occupied Estonia, and it remained under communist rule for 50 years. Here are the words of Mart Laar, Estoniaā€™s former prime minister, stating what communism did to his country:

ā€œLook at what happened in this context during these fifty years and then you can understand how terrible the communist system really is. And itā€™s not only in the economy. This is in all fields of lifeā€”the social structure, cultural standards, education, healthcare, or whatever. When you compare those two countries, which were exactly the same in 1939[,] in 1989, then you will find what communism really means, and how bad it is. Our economy, our nature, and our environment was [sic] destroyed.ā€

The conclusion:

Their economic and social differences grew so large that no informed person could honestly dispute the pernicious effect that communist rule had on occupied Estonia.

Finland and Estonia

In 1991 Estonia became capitalist, and experienced massive economic growth. They discovered the errors of progressive class warfare.




ā€œWhere has socialism ever worked?ā€



Do that face again, Blanko....

Jumpin Jimmy's you are a brainwashed functional moron. Socialism works communism doesn't Finland was socialist Estonia was Communist. Do you need a diagram?
 
So, Socialism is kind of a gateway drug?
Perhaps thatā€™s why red states are suffering so terribly?



RED STATES????




The same fear that drove the Democrat Party to insist their states be called 'blue states' when everyone knows they are red.



1. Remember when the 'red states' were Democrat, 'cause, well, Democrats/Liberals were so closely identified with communists, reds, socialists....

Then the control of the media really paid off for the Leftists....and now the obfuscation is complete.


2. Red is traditionally associated with socialism and communism. The oldest symbol of socialism (and, by extension, communism) is the Red Flag, which dates back to the revolutions of 1848. The colour red was chosen to represent the blood of the workers who died in the struggle against capitalism. All major socialist and communist alliances and organisations ā€“ including the First, Second, and Third Internationals ā€“ used red as their official colour. The association between the colour red and communism is particularly strong. Communists use red much more often and more extensively than other ideologies use their respective traditional colours.

Ā§ In Europe and Latin America, red is also associated with parties of social democracy, and often their allies within the labour movement. Sometimes these parties use pink instead, as a "moderate" colour instead of the more "radical" red.

Ā§ In the United States, since the year 2000, the mass media have associated red with the Republican Party, despite the fact that the Republican Party is a conservative-leaning party.
Political colour - Wikipedia


3. "The former system made more sense and was deliberately changed by media partisans who didnā€™t like to suggest Democrats should be associated with the color red....Whatā€™s a little more surprising, however, is how easily Republicans fell in line, apparently without realizing the reason they went from blue to red overnight. Thereā€™s even a Republican-leaning opinion site called RedState.com. How shortsighted and gullible can you get?

That made even more sense because Reaganā€™s convictions were decidedly and unabashedly anti-red.

I propose to you itā€™s time we ā€“ real Americans, the rest of us ā€“ stopped being manipulated like this."
How red states turned blue and vice versa




4. The Democrats should be Grayā€¦.reminiscent of the outfits they wore when they were the Confederacy, and weā€™re Blueā€¦.the color we wore when we pried their slaves away from them.
 
"Bernie is not a Marxist he is a socialist, a Democratic socialist ..."


Yeah, he is.

Always has been, you dope.


1. " [At] the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young Peopleā€™s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

2. ...graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American Peopleā€™s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as ā€œAmericaā€™s greatest Marxist.ā€ Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post


a. Eugene Victor Debs, Bernie's paragon: "... Debs agreed with the left wing of the Socialist Partyā€”people like Bill Haywood and Mother Jones, who would help found the Industrial Workers of the World (the 'Wobblies). They advocated workers taking control where the power of the ruling class was rootedā€”in the factories. ... Within the SP, members had verydifferent ideas about socialism and how it would be achieved. Some believed in socialism as a steady increase in social reforms achieved by socialists being elected to political officeā€”others looked to a revolutionary transformation of society.....

Eventually, those leftists who remained in the SP quit to help form a new Communist Party on the model of what Lenin and the Bolsheviks had built in Russia. Debs, while he supported the Russian Revolution and remained a revolutionary, nonetheless stayed in the SP." Socialism according to Eugene V. Debs


Still imagine there is any great difference between socialists and communists....and Bernie?



3. This subversive hero of Sanders, [Eugene Victor Debs,] denounced even by liberal Democrats as a ā€œtraitor,ā€ bashed ā€œthe barons of Wall Streetā€ and hailed the ā€œtriumphantā€ Bolshevik revolution in Russia.


ā€œThose Russian comrades of ours have made greater sacrifices, have suffered more, and have shed more heroic blood than any like number of men and women anywhere on Earth,ā€ Debs proclaimed. ā€œThey have laid the foundation of the first real democracy that ever drew the breath of life in this world.ā€ Socialism according to Eugene V. Debs


4. "In a 1918 speech in Canton, Ohio, Debs reaffirmed his solidarity with Lenin and Trotsky, despite clear evidence of their violent plunder and treachery. Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office." NYPost, Op. Cit.


This Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."
Now about the Democrat Party elite, Bernie Sanders: Communist, Socialist, Liberal, and Progressive


5." ... Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies. [Before Maxine Waters, too!]

... Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor ā€œdoes not believe in free enterprise.ā€


6. His radical activities didnā€™t stop at the waterā€™s edge. Sanders took several ā€œgoodwillā€ trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a ā€œheroic revolution.ā€ Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administrationā€™s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

ā€œThe Sandinista government has more support among the Nicaraguan people ā€” substantially more support ā€” than Ronald Reagan has among the American people,ā€ Sanders told Vermont government-access TV in 1985." Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post


(BTW...Ortega and the Sandinistas were voted out of power in 1990. Ortega ran for election again, in October 1996 and November 2001, but lost on both occasions)





7. "Sanders also adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow and honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.


Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council ā€” a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to ā€œthe triumph of Soviet power in the US.ā€ Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post



8."Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies ā€œout of business.ā€ He also wants to break up ā€œbig banksā€ and control the energy industry, while providing ā€œfreeā€ college tuition, a ā€œliving wageā€ and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects.

Price tag: $18 trillion.

Who will pay for it all? You will. Sanders plans to not only soak the rich with a 90 percent-plus tax rate, while charging Wall Street a ā€œspeculation tax,ā€ but hit every American with a ā€œglobal-warming tax.ā€

Of course, even that wouldnā€™t cover the cost of his communist schemes; a President Sanders would eventually soak the middle class he claims to champion. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, right?



9. Sanders and his Sanderistas are all still pining for what Debs called ā€œthe Greater Revolution yet to come.ā€

Whatā€™s revolting is how this hardcore commieā€™s campaign has gotten this far. With his ascendancy in both Iowa and New Hampshire, Sanders is no longer just a fool; heā€™s now a dangerous fool.

While it may be hard to hate the old codger, itā€™s easy ā€” and virtuous ā€” to hate his un-American ideas. They should be swept into the dustbin with the rest of communist history."
Donā€™t be fooled by Bernie Sanders ā€” heā€™s a diehard communist | New York Post




The only difference between a socialist and a communist is the demand for an armed revolution.
The communists are always socialists until their strong enough to kill the opposition.

Do you still seriously believe that anyone actually reads your 2,000 word screeds? :laughing0301:

the difference is socialist Democratic and communist totalitarian state have to be only about 35% of the people ever are in favor of Communism or Nazism or any other kind of totalitarianism. Or even the American revolution for that matter. the UK and the United States have the worst Savage capitalists in the world and always have. That's why they love to conflate socialists and Communists for dupes like you. The English speaking world is behind the times. most other countries have had socialist and communist parties at the same time and they are extremely different. And the Communists have now disappeared. Except for those with a gun to their head and in China Cuba and North Korea. And yes your spam is incredibly redundant and a gigantic pain.


I wish I had a nickel for each of the imbeciles...you.....who posted emoticons on a dozen of my posts in the thread....then claimed he doesn't read my posts.
the difference is socialist Democratic and communist totalitarian state have to be only about 35% of the people ever are in favor of Communism or Nazism or any other kind of totalitarianism. Or even the American revolution for that matter. the UK and the United States have the worst Savage capitalists in the world and always have. That's why they love to conflate socialists and Communists for dupes like you. The English speaking world is behind the times. most other countries have had socialist and communist parties at the same time and they are extremely different. And the Communists have now disappeared. Except for those with a gun to their head and in China Cuba and North Korea. And yes your spam is incredibly redundant and a gigantic pain.



And.....another lesson for Blanko:


Communism or Capitalism? Finland and Estonia

In 1939 Finland and its southern neighbor Estonia were identical in many ways. Then, in 1940, the USSR occupied Estonia, and it remained under communist rule for 50 years. Here are the words of Mart Laar, Estoniaā€™s former prime minister, stating what communism did to his country:

ā€œLook at what happened in this context during these fifty years and then you can understand how terrible the communist system really is. And itā€™s not only in the economy. This is in all fields of lifeā€”the social structure, cultural standards, education, healthcare, or whatever. When you compare those two countries, which were exactly the same in 1939[,] in 1989, then you will find what communism really means, and how bad it is. Our economy, our nature, and our environment was [sic] destroyed.ā€

The conclusion:

Their economic and social differences grew so large that no informed person could honestly dispute the pernicious effect that communist rule had on occupied Estonia.

Finland and Estonia

In 1991 Estonia became capitalist, and experienced massive economic growth. They discovered the errors of progressive class warfare.




ā€œWhere has socialism ever worked?ā€



Do that face again, Blanko....

Jumpin Jimmy's you are a brainwashed functional moron. Socialism works communism doesn't Finland was socialist Estonia was Communist. Do you need a diagram?



ā€œWhere has socialism ever worked?ā€

 

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