How Republicans can get Keystone passed

[kaz]

maybe, just maybe, Trans Canada will employ 50 American union workers after the pipeline is finished ... or they could Hire 50 Canadian Union workers after the pipeline is finished ... TC won't say either way.

Who cares about 50 families? Certainly not you or Obama

apparently, you don't either.

you're dismissed.

That made no sense

 

[Siete]

We estimate 821,000 tons of high strength line pipe will be used on the project in Canada and the U.S. TransCanada has estimated it will use 660,000 tons of steel for the U.S. portion of the Keystone XL pipeline. The following are the line pipe mills who are manufacturing the pipe:

• Welspun - Little Rock, Arkansas, USA 332,800 tons 50%
• Evraz – Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada 156,266 tons 24%
• ILVA – Italy 103,147 tons 16%
• Welspun - India 69,457 tons 10%

• 
  only half of the pipe is made in AMERICA, and more comes from India and Italy than Canada.

 

[Siete]

maybe, just maybe, Trans Canada will employ 50 American union workers after the pipeline is finished ... or they could Hire 50 Canadian Union workers after the pipeline is finished ... TC won't say either way.

Who cares about 50 families? Certainly not you or Obama

apparently, you don't either.

you're dismissed.

That made no sense

that's just because you're a MORON.

go away Dilbert.

 

[kaz]

We estimate 821,000 tons of high strength line pipe will be used on the project in Canada and the U.S. TransCanada has estimated it will use 660,000 tons of steel for the U.S. portion of the Keystone XL pipeline. The following are the line pipe mills who are manufacturing the pipe:

• Welspun - Little Rock, Arkansas, USA 332,800 tons 50%
• Evraz – Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada 156,266 tons 24%
• ILVA – Italy 103,147 tons 16%
• Welspun - India 69,457 tons 10%

• 
  only half of the pipe is made in AMERICA, and more comes from India and Italy than Canada.

You make that sound like an argument against it, that we get the jobs to build half the pipe.

 

[Siete]

We estimate 821,000 tons of high strength line pipe will be used on the project in Canada and the U.S. TransCanada has estimated it will use 660,000 tons of steel for the U.S. portion of the Keystone XL pipeline. The following are the line pipe mills who are manufacturing the pipe:

• Welspun - Little Rock, Arkansas, USA 332,800 tons 50%
• Evraz – Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada 156,266 tons 24%
• ILVA – Italy 103,147 tons 16%
• Welspun - India 69,457 tons 10%

• 
  only half of the pipe is made in AMERICA, and more comes from India and Italy than Canada.

You make that sound like an argument against it, that we get the jobs to build half the pipe.

Americans should get ALL the jobs. But leave it to you to stand up for outsourcing American workers jobs to Italy and India. Why do you hate Americans?

 

[boilermaker55]

After oil spilled in Yellowstone River, residents told not to drink water
After oil spilled in Yellowstone River residents told not to drink water - CNN.com

(CNN)A Montana pipeline burst sent as much as 50,400 gallons of oil gushing into the Yellowstone River, prompting the governor to declare a state of emergency.
In 2011, up to 42,000 gallons poured out of a ruptured Exxon Mobil pipeline, the spill was into the Yellowstone River.

Residents in nearby cities were told not to drink the tap water, which some said smelled like diesel.

 

[Siete]

After oil spilled in Yellowstone River, residents told not to drink water
After oil spilled in Yellowstone River residents told not to drink water - CNN.com

(CNN)A Montana pipeline burst sent as much as 50,400 gallons of oil gushing into the Yellowstone River, prompting the governor to declare a state of emergency.
In 2011, up to 42,000 gallons poured out of a ruptured Exxon Mobil pipeline, the spill was into the Yellowstone River.

Residents in nearby cities were told not to drink the tap water, which some said smelled like diesel.

The first Keystone tar sands pipeline, constructed less than a year ago, has sprung its twelfth leak, spilling up to 2,100 gallons of raw tar sands crude oil in Kansas on May 29th when a pipeline fitting around a pressure transmitter failed. This comes just three weeks after a broken pipe fitting on Keystone resulted in a 60’ geyser of tar sands crude, spewing 21,000 gallons in North Dakota. Surely this appalling record of spills should send a message to the State Department as it goes through the permitting process for a second tar sands pipeline – Keystone XL – by the same company that we need better pipeline safety assessments and regulations in place before building another tar sands pipeline through sensitive U.S. lands and waters. We have an agency that handles pipeline safety – the Department of Transportation’s Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA). They should be making the assessment of the safety of diluted bitumen pipelines a priority.


diluted bitumen ... nasty chite.

 

[boilermaker55]

While tar sands are far worse than this oil.
The fines given to Exxon/Mobil was ludicrous when one sees their profits and their token effort to clean up the spills.

After oil spilled in Yellowstone River, residents told not to drink water
After oil spilled in Yellowstone River residents told not to drink water - CNN.com

(CNN)A Montana pipeline burst sent as much as 50,400 gallons of oil gushing into the Yellowstone River, prompting the governor to declare a state of emergency.
In 2011, up to 42,000 gallons poured out of a ruptured Exxon Mobil pipeline, the spill was into the Yellowstone River.

Residents in nearby cities were told not to drink the tap water, which some said smelled like diesel.

The first Keystone tar sands pipeline, constructed less than a year ago, has sprung its twelfth leak, spilling up to 2,100 gallons of raw tar sands crude oil in Kansas on May 29th when a pipeline fitting around a pressure transmitter failed. This comes just three weeks after a broken pipe fitting on Keystone resulted in a 60’ geyser of tar sands crude, spewing 21,000 gallons in North Dakota. Surely this appalling record of spills should send a message to the State Department as it goes through the permitting process for a second tar sands pipeline – Keystone XL – by the same company that we need better pipeline safety assessments and regulations in place before building another tar sands pipeline through sensitive U.S. lands and waters. We have an agency that handles pipeline safety – the Department of Transportation’s Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA). They should be making the assessment of the safety of diluted bitumen pipelines a priority.


diluted bitumen ... nasty chite.

 

[Care4all]

I can't Understand the GOP obsession with Keystone. It is just one project and it helps Canada

There are thousands of infrastructure projects in the US that benefit the American people, why aren't Republicans concerned with them?

I can't Understand the GOP obsession with Keystone.

I can't understand why Keystone makes libs wet their panties.

It is just one project and it helps Canada.

Helps us too.

There are thousands of infrastructure projects in the US that benefit the American people, why aren't Republicans concerned with them?

We are. Let's cut some of Obama's wasteful spending to pay for them.

Yea....Keystone will bring less than 50 permanent jobs

Where is the vision of the Republican Party? Why are they so wrapped up in one relatively small project when there is so much to do

Gas prices are ridiculously low. Add 15 cents to the gas tax
Interest rates are historically low. Issue some 30 year bonds at 4%
Our infrastructure is in horrible shape. We just had a bridge collapse yesterday which killed someone. We need to look at our power grid, our communications infrastructure, the internet,water, sewers, roads, bridges, tunnels

Meanwile, Republicans tie up Congress over one stinking project (a Canadian project)

more than likely it is campaign donations and lobbyist's money from the corporations that will benefit from the pipeline? Like refineries would get more business with the pipeline...it still all may be shipped overseas, but it will probably be refine here, so that group of businesses have some good money to be made off of this taking of American citizenry's land....and is probably slathering congress critters with their money?

 

[Siete]

I can't Understand the GOP obsession with Keystone. It is just one project and it helps Canada

There are thousands of infrastructure projects in the US that benefit the American people, why aren't Republicans concerned with them?

I can't Understand the GOP obsession with Keystone.

I can't understand why Keystone makes libs wet their panties.

It is just one project and it helps Canada.

Helps us too.

There are thousands of infrastructure projects in the US that benefit the American people, why aren't Republicans concerned with them?

We are. Let's cut some of Obama's wasteful spending to pay for them.

Yea....Keystone will bring less than 50 permanent jobs

Where is the vision of the Republican Party? Why are they so wrapped up in one relatively small project when there is so much to do

Gas prices are ridiculously low. Add 15 cents to the gas tax
Interest rates are historically low. Issue some 30 year bonds at 4%
Our infrastructure is in horrible shape. We just had a bridge collapse yesterday which killed someone. We need to look at our power grid, our communications infrastructure, the internet,water, sewers, roads, bridges, tunnels

Meanwile, Republicans tie up Congress over one stinking project (a Canadian project)

more than likely it is campaign donations and lobbyist's money from the corporations that will benefit from the pipeline? Like refineries would get more business with the pipeline...it still all may be shipped overseas, but it will probably be refine here, so that group of businesses have some good money to be made off of this taking of American citizenry's land....and is probably slathering congress critters with their money?

done, done, and DONE.

Saudi partnered with Royal Dutch (Shell) and built the largest refinery on this side of the globe in Port Arthur, Tx. The Saudi's part was 11 Billion $$.

Mosque in NY, hell no .... Refinery in Tx, ... sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

 

[kaz]

We estimate 821,000 tons of high strength line pipe will be used on the project in Canada and the U.S. TransCanada has estimated it will use 660,000 tons of steel for the U.S. portion of the Keystone XL pipeline. The following are the line pipe mills who are manufacturing the pipe:

• Welspun - Little Rock, Arkansas, USA 332,800 tons 50%
• Evraz – Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada 156,266 tons 24%
• ILVA – Italy 103,147 tons 16%
• Welspun - India 69,457 tons 10%

• 
  only half of the pipe is made in AMERICA, and more comes from India and Italy than Canada.

You make that sound like an argument against it, that we get the jobs to build half the pipe.

Americans should get ALL the jobs. But leave it to you to stand up for outsourcing American workers jobs to Italy and India. Why do you hate Americans?

Marxism is the only way to love your country, got it. But you're not a democrat.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We estimate 821,000 tons of high strength line pipe will be used on the project in Canada and the U.S. TransCanada has estimated it will use 660,000 tons of steel for the U.S. portion of the Keystone XL pipeline. The following are the line pipe mills who are manufacturing the pipe:

• Welspun - Little Rock, Arkansas, USA 332,800 tons 50%
• Evraz – Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada 156,266 tons 24%
• ILVA – Italy 103,147 tons 16%
• Welspun - India 69,457 tons 10%

• 
  only half of the pipe is made in AMERICA, and more comes from India and Italy than Canada.

You make that sound like an argument against it, that we get the jobs to build half the pipe.

Americans should get ALL the jobs. But leave it to you to stand up for outsourcing American workers jobs to Italy and India. Why do you hate Americans?

But leave it to you to stand up for outsourcing American workers jobs to Italy and India.

Outsource the jobs that Obama won't allow Keystone to create? LOL!
That's funny. It almost makes it sound like you care about American jobs.
Maybe Obama should insist all the pipe be American?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I can't Understand the GOP obsession with Keystone. It is just one project and it helps Canada

There are thousands of infrastructure projects in the US that benefit the American people, why aren't Republicans concerned with them?

I can't Understand the GOP obsession with Keystone.

I can't understand why Keystone makes libs wet their panties.

It is just one project and it helps Canada.

Helps us too.

There are thousands of infrastructure projects in the US that benefit the American people, why aren't Republicans concerned with them?

We are. Let's cut some of Obama's wasteful spending to pay for them.

Yea....Keystone will bring less than 50 permanent jobs

Where is the vision of the Republican Party? Why are they so wrapped up in one relatively small project when there is so much to do

Gas prices are ridiculously low. Add 15 cents to the gas tax
Interest rates are historically low. Issue some 30 year bonds at 4%
Our infrastructure is in horrible shape. We just had a bridge collapse yesterday which killed someone. We need to look at our power grid, our communications infrastructure, the internet,water, sewers, roads, bridges, tunnels

Meanwile, Republicans tie up Congress over one stinking project (a Canadian project)

more than likely it is campaign donations and lobbyist's money from the corporations that will benefit from the pipeline? Like refineries would get more business with the pipeline...it still all may be shipped overseas, but it will probably be refine here, so that group of businesses have some good money to be made off of this taking of American citizenry's land....and is probably slathering congress critters with their money?

Like refineries would get more business with the pipeline...

More business for American corporations? Sounds awful!

it still all may be shipped overseas

More exports of American value added products? Sounds awful!

 

[Siete]

We estimate 821,000 tons of high strength line pipe will be used on the project in Canada and the U.S. TransCanada has estimated it will use 660,000 tons of steel for the U.S. portion of the Keystone XL pipeline. The following are the line pipe mills who are manufacturing the pipe:

• Welspun - Little Rock, Arkansas, USA 332,800 tons 50%
• Evraz – Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada 156,266 tons 24%
• ILVA – Italy 103,147 tons 16%
• Welspun - India 69,457 tons 10%

• 
  only half of the pipe is made in AMERICA, and more comes from India and Italy than Canada.

You make that sound like an argument against it, that we get the jobs to build half the pipe.

Americans should get ALL the jobs. But leave it to you to stand up for outsourcing American workers jobs to Italy and India. Why do you hate Americans?

But leave it to you to stand up for outsourcing American workers jobs to Italy and India.

Outsource the jobs that Obama won't allow Keystone to create? LOL!
That's funny. It almost makes it sound like you care about American jobs.
Maybe Obama should insist all the pipe be American?

if that's directed at me, maybe you should read the thread again. I clearly stated Americans deserve to get ALL the jobs.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We estimate 821,000 tons of high strength line pipe will be used on the project in Canada and the U.S. TransCanada has estimated it will use 660,000 tons of steel for the U.S. portion of the Keystone XL pipeline. The following are the line pipe mills who are manufacturing the pipe:

• Welspun - Little Rock, Arkansas, USA 332,800 tons 50%
• Evraz – Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada 156,266 tons 24%
• ILVA – Italy 103,147 tons 16%
• Welspun - India 69,457 tons 10%

• 
  only half of the pipe is made in AMERICA, and more comes from India and Italy than Canada.

You make that sound like an argument against it, that we get the jobs to build half the pipe.

Americans should get ALL the jobs. But leave it to you to stand up for outsourcing American workers jobs to Italy and India. Why do you hate Americans?

But leave it to you to stand up for outsourcing American workers jobs to Italy and India.

Outsource the jobs that Obama won't allow Keystone to create? LOL!
That's funny. It almost makes it sound like you care about American jobs.
Maybe Obama should insist all the pipe be American?

if that's directed at me, maybe you should read the thread again. I clearly stated Americans deserve to get ALL the jobs.

And Obama wants them to get none of the jobs.

 

[kaz]

We estimate 821,000 tons of high strength line pipe will be used on the project in Canada and the U.S. TransCanada has estimated it will use 660,000 tons of steel for the U.S. portion of the Keystone XL pipeline. The following are the line pipe mills who are manufacturing the pipe:

• Welspun - Little Rock, Arkansas, USA 332,800 tons 50%
• Evraz – Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada 156,266 tons 24%
• ILVA – Italy 103,147 tons 16%
• Welspun - India 69,457 tons 10%

• 
  only half of the pipe is made in AMERICA, and more comes from India and Italy than Canada.

You make that sound like an argument against it, that we get the jobs to build half the pipe.

Americans should get ALL the jobs. But leave it to you to stand up for outsourcing American workers jobs to Italy and India. Why do you hate Americans?

But leave it to you to stand up for outsourcing American workers jobs to Italy and India.

Outsource the jobs that Obama won't allow Keystone to create? LOL!
That's funny. It almost makes it sound like you care about American jobs.
Maybe Obama should insist all the pipe be American?

if that's directed at me, maybe you should read the thread again. I clearly stated Americans deserve to get ALL the jobs.

Bunch of brown foreigners aren't taking what's yours, are they? Problem is, it's not yours...

 

[kaz]

We estimate 821,000 tons of high strength line pipe will be used on the project in Canada and the U.S. TransCanada has estimated it will use 660,000 tons of steel for the U.S. portion of the Keystone XL pipeline. The following are the line pipe mills who are manufacturing the pipe:

• Welspun - Little Rock, Arkansas, USA 332,800 tons 50%
• Evraz – Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada 156,266 tons 24%
• ILVA – Italy 103,147 tons 16%
• Welspun - India 69,457 tons 10%

• 
  only half of the pipe is made in AMERICA, and more comes from India and Italy than Canada.

You make that sound like an argument against it, that we get the jobs to build half the pipe.

Americans should get ALL the jobs. But leave it to you to stand up for outsourcing American workers jobs to Italy and India. Why do you hate Americans?

But leave it to you to stand up for outsourcing American workers jobs to Italy and India.

Outsource the jobs that Obama won't allow Keystone to create? LOL!
That's funny. It almost makes it sound like you care about American jobs.
Maybe Obama should insist all the pipe be American?

if that's directed at me, maybe you should read the thread again. I clearly stated Americans deserve to get ALL the jobs.

And Obama wants them to get none of the jobs.

Exactly. Siete doesn't give a shit about the jobs, liberals can't be honest about what they want.

 

[Care4all]

Eminent Domain should ONLY BE USED if it benefits the MASSES, the public, not just a handful of Business owners....does this tar sand pipeline benefit the Public, the masses, enough to take citizen's land away by our government? That's a tough question that should be answered before we go anywhere...

If this were your own homestead, would you be pleased being forced to sell off a portion of your land at a fair market value of what farm land is worth, by our government, to another business owner, for merely the other business's benefit to make a better profit?

That just seems wrong to me.... I can put myself in these land owner's shoes and it is not right imo...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Eminent Domain should ONLY BE USED if it benefits the MASSES, the public, not just a handful of Business owners....does this tar sand pipeline benefit the Public, the masses, enough to take citizen's land away by our government? That's a tough question that should be answered before we go anywhere...

If this were your own homestead, would you be pleased being forced to sell off a portion of your land at a fair market value of what farm land is worth, by our government, to another business owner, for merely the other business's benefit to make a better profit?

That just seems wrong to me.... I can put myself in these land owner's shoes and it is not right imo...

 

[Care4all]

Published on
Tuesday, January 20, 2015

Faced With Land Seizures, Defiant Nebraskans Vow to Halt Keystone XL
'Our land is not for sale and we will keep fighting TransCanada until we see their tail lights go back across our border.'

by
Nadia Prupis, staff writer

Nebraska ranchers and farmers are building a renewable energy powered barn in the path of the Keystone XL pipeline. (Photo: Mary Anne Andrei-Bold Nebraska/flickr/cc)

As Canadian energy company TransCanada filed eminent domain claims against Nebraska landowners on Tuesday for the construction of the controversial Keystone XL tar sands pipeline, families whose properties are on the verge of forced seizure say they will do whatever is necessary to shut down the project.

Landowners from Nebraska's York and Holt counties last week filed suit against TransCanada to stall or even stop construction of the Keystone XL pipeline through their state. On Tuesday, they continued to call on President Barack Obama to veto the project altogether.

"Today, Nebraska families are facing an inconceivable moment when land that has been in their hands for generations is being taken away from them by a foreign oil company," Bold Nebraska director Jane Kleeb stated in a press release. "Landowners will match TransCanada’s lawsuits in local courts and continue to take our fight to the one person who can put an end to all of this: President Obama."

Obama has promised to veto legislation that would force the approval of the Keystone XL pipeline; Senate Republicans have vowed to get the pipeline approved as one of their first acts of 2015.

TransCanada's use of the "unconstitutional and void" eminent domain law, which gives the government the right to seize private lands for public use without compensation, is "another bullying move by the foreign corporation that swears they are going to be a good neighbor," said Jim Tarnick, one of the landowners who joined in the suit.

"From the Kalamazoo to the Yellowstone rivers and all across the United States, tar sands are a horrible danger and threat that the President must reject," Tarnick added.

Bold Nebraska noted that public support for the Keystone XL pipeline has waned over time, with only 41 percent approving of the project in a recent poll.

Yet while landowners, the president, and the public at large continue to speak out against the pipeline, former Nebraska Governor Dave Heineman, who approved Keystone construction in the state, "abus[ed] the powers of his office" by taking authority away from the people of Nebraska and giving it to himself "to approve a pipeline and give a foreign corporation the power of eminent domain before they have all their permits in place," the lawsuit states.

"While we fight to ensure TransCanada and the state of Nebraska do not run roughshod over farmers and ranchers, we also call upon President Obama to reject Keystone XL now," Kleeb said last week.

Meghan Hammond, a landowner whose clean energy project would have to be torn down for the construction of the pipeline, stated on Tuesday: "We can not survive as a family business without clean water. Our government has no solution to clean up tar sands and benzene from our water. Our land is not for sale and we will keep fighting TransCanada until we see their tail lights go back across our border."

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