How many of you believe that "From River to Sea, Palestine must be free" is a

[Seymour Flops]

Threat to Israel's existence: Many Israelis and their supporters see the phrase as a call for the dismantling of the State of Israel and the displacement or removal of its Jewish population

The Blogs: Did the UN General Assembly agree: From River to Sea, Palestine must be free?

From the blog of Moshe-Mordechai van Zuiden at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

With history on Israel's side that:
A) Since 2005, Hamas and other groups in Gaza have launched over 20,000 rockets and mortars at Israel.

https://www.aipac.org/resources/understanding-the-recent-conflict-in-gaza-dhlfm-95xlk-fk

B) Total Israeli Deaths: Around 1,200 Israelis and foreign nationals in Israel were killed in the initial Hamas attack on October 7, 2023.

October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

These two acts seem to be the examples that most people that shout this want Israel to be destroyed.
Now more important though how many of that read this agree with Hamas etc... Israelis and Israel must be exterminated.
For those of you that believe it means Israelis and Israel to be exterminated... you are no better than these people!View attachment 1114669

It's a call for genocide. What else would it be? By "free" they mean "Jew Free."

Israel doesn't have a catchy slogan for it, but they are making Gaza Arab Free.

I wonder if anyone on the left realizes that sending activists to American universities to lead riots is not going to make Israel change their minds?

 

[healthmyths]

Palestine is a "concept" NOT a country!

"AND"?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

From river to the shining sea,
For all time and eternity,
Greater Israel shall ever be.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Pretty simple reason I contract these comments by YOU!
Plus tons of Jews in Israel are way way, way more critical of these Israeli government than myself. The issue in my opinion is not the existence of Israel, but it’s current government is conducting itself.

Remember that Gaza has no organized military. They literally have no chance whatsoever against the Israeli military, which has a navy and an Air Force. You’re talking about people with rocks and stones versus the military might of Israel. The rockets that Gaza has are glorified fireworks. And compare 50,000 dead Palestinians to October 7 of which many in Israel have said was some sort of a false flag… then what do you really have? There is no comparison, my friend.

That you have some marijuana smoking, left-wingers saying “Palestine will be free from the river to the sea” is something that constitutes no harm at all to the state of Israel. I think the whole thing is a smoke screen for the bloody war in Gaza. Plus we can’t verify the people that are saying things like “from the river to the sea Palestine will be free” if they are actually undercover Zionists or similar.
Your above comments are negative against Israel and supports Hamas is why!
Of course there are few issues like you raised against Israel... but see you evidently don't understand how Hamas, et.al. supporters which are many because Hamas leadership is extremely based on a religion that states clearly..

Hamas's objective, as stated in its founding charter and reiterated by its leaders, includes the destruction of the State of Israel and the establishment of an independent Islamic state in its place. This objective is intertwined with deeply embedded antisemitic views, which portray the conflict as a religious struggle and demonize Jews.

Doctrine of Hamas

www.wilsoncenter.org

When you criticize Israel as you have even though you think you do no harm... the idiot Palestinian supporters take any sliver of criticize as well as the biased MSM and blow out of proportion, i.e. accusing Benjamin Netanyahu of whatever.
In trying to be analytical, you are forgetting the impressions made on truly uninformed people, i.e. Hamas, Palestine must be free, etc. idiots!

The main point is that nothing is going to happen to Israel. It would’ve happened already. There are no Jordanian or Egyptian tanks roaming the streets of Tel Aviv. There is no chance whatsoever that Israel is destroyed. Again that’s some pot smoking hippies in the west say “Palestine will be free from the river to the sea” has no bearing whatsoever on the real outcome. There are in fact Israel Jews going on vacations in Dubai.

Btw there is tons of nuance when it comes to criticism of the Israeli government. You were just talking about one group of critics of Israel whom are also people with no power whatsoever. Otoh Talk about the many Jews in America and in Israel, who are critical of the Israeli government. Lots of nuance there.

Thanks to Trump there have been advances in progress made between Muslim countries and Israel. Again right now really the only enemy Israel has is Iran. Not even Syria anymore as they no longer have the Assad government. You have not responded to any of these points. And that is what is most upsetting.

I’m not going to continue here if you’re going to ignore the points I’m making or tell me what I think about Hamas.


I’ll add another point and I don’t know if you’re gonna ignore it. Because you’ve ignored a couple of my key points already. 50% over Republicans under the age of 49 do not have a positive view of Israel.

53% of Americans have unfavorable view of Israel, compared to 42% in 2022 | The Times of Israel

www.timesofisrael.com

And we now have a majority of Americans with unfavorable views of Israel. In just a matter of a few years we have gone from most Americans having a favorable view of Israel to having an unfavorable view. And I believe that much of it has to do with tactics of some pros Israel people of screaming Nazi at everyone who disagrees with them, or not willing to have a proper conversation. But again this will have no effect on the survival of Israel. It will survive as it is a nuclear armed country. It will sustain some bad public relations because of how its current government operates, but perhaps that will change in the future if they get a better government.

 

[Woodznutz]

A lot of college students seem ok with chanting it. It’s the world we live in.

Most college students avoid such nonsense.

 

[Woodznutz]

Threat to Israel's existence: Many Israelis and their supporters see the phrase as a call for the dismantling of the State of Israel and the displacement or removal of its Jewish population

The Blogs: Did the UN General Assembly agree: From River to Sea, Palestine must be free?

From the blog of Moshe-Mordechai van Zuiden at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

With history on Israel's side that:
A) Since 2005, Hamas and other groups in Gaza have launched over 20,000 rockets and mortars at Israel.

https://www.aipac.org/resources/understanding-the-recent-conflict-in-gaza-dhlfm-95xlk-fk

B) Total Israeli Deaths: Around 1,200 Israelis and foreign nationals in Israel were killed in the initial Hamas attack on October 7, 2023.

October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

These two acts seem to be the examples that most people that shout this want Israel to be destroyed.
Now more important though how many of that read this agree with Hamas etc... Israelis and Israel must be exterminated.
For those of you that believe it means Israelis and Israel to be exterminated... you are no better than these people!View attachment 1114669

For the big picture study the prophecies concerning the Jews. See Ezekiel 5.

 

[konradv]

Threat to Israel's existence: Many Israelis and their supporters see the phrase as a call for the dismantling of the State of Israel and the displacement or removal of its Jewish population

The Blogs: Did the UN General Assembly agree: From River to Sea, Palestine must be free?

From the blog of Moshe-Mordechai van Zuiden at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

With history on Israel's side that:
A) Since 2005, Hamas and other groups in Gaza have launched over 20,000 rockets and mortars at Israel.

https://www.aipac.org/resources/understanding-the-recent-conflict-in-gaza-dhlfm-95xlk-fk

B) Total Israeli Deaths: Around 1,200 Israelis and foreign nationals in Israel were killed in the initial Hamas attack on October 7, 2023.

October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

These two acts seem to be the examples that most people that shout this want Israel to be destroyed.
Now more important though how many of that read this agree with Hamas etc... Israelis and Israel must be exterminated.
For those of you that believe it means Israelis and Israel to be exterminated... you are no better than these people!View attachment 1114669

From the river to the sea, Canaan must be free!

 

[whitehall]

Israel's independence is well established going back to 1948 and a defensive war.

 

[Woodznutz]

Israel's independence is well established going back to 1948 and a defensive war.

Israel is dependent on the West for its survival, militarily and economically.

 

[healthmyths]

No civilized human being believes that.

Arabs when in the majority cannot live with neighbors.

You wrote.."A person without empathy is probably aligned with MAGA beliefs."

War crimes everywhere.

Totally a fabrication that 200,000 Gaza deaths!
FACTS from GAZA health itself..
These figures are significantly higher than the death toll of 38,345 announced on Thursday July 11 by the Gaza Health Ministry, which has been publishing daily figures since the start of Israel’s offensive against Hamas in the besieged Palestinian territory, in response to the Islamist militant group’s October 7 attack on Israeli soil.

‘More than 186,000 dead’ in Gaza: How credible are the estimates published on The Lancet?

According to a "letter" published on the website of the British medical journal The Lancet, "186,000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza". This is a significantly…

www.france24.com

So all the supporters moan and groan about the real 38,345 deaths NOT one of them including people on this forum recognize the major difference between Israel being bombarded by Hamas since 2005 with 20,000 rockets resulting in less than 2,000 Israeli deaths is the IRON DOME which was put into place by Israeli government to PROTECT their people!
But people who criticize Israel seem totally unaware of these 3 Hamas leader/billionaires who are making money from their followers DEATHS!!! Less than 5% of their $11,000,000,000 would have built an IRON DOME in Gaza!
But NOT one comment has been made about this even on this forum when I've supplied the FACTS!

Hamas leaders worth staggering $11B revel in luxury — while Gaza’s people suffer

Three of the terror group’s most senior figures are able fly private and relax in safety in the tiny emirate — a key US ally — while enjoying an $11bn fortune between them.

nypost.com

 

[Kondor3]

Palestinian cries of "From the river to the sea" do, indeed, represent a call for genocide directed against the Jews of Israel.

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Israel is a highly-valued economic, cultural and military ally in the Eastern Med and the Middle East (Levant).

A bulwark against barbarian Islamist Regimes in the region.

They were savagely and unjustifiably attacked on October 7, 2023.

The actions of Hamas on October 7th were a de facto Declaration of War.

Israel accepted the challenge and has been waging war against Hamas and its Gazan enablers since that time.

Hamas and the Gazans are Losing the War.

Hamas embeds its fighters and military assets and ops centers amongst hospitals, schools, mosques, relief centers, etc.

Hiding behind the skirts of their women and children like the chicken$hit pu$$ie$ that they truly are.

Thereby necessitating bombing and assaults upon such centers in order to destroy Hamas personnel and assets.

The Western Allies did much the same thing in Hamburg and Dresden and Schweinfurt and Tokyo and Hiroshima, etc.

To win a War one must defeat both the adversary's military and destroy the adversary's civilian support and enabling morale.

There is no Arab-Muslim cavalry coming over the hill to the rescue... their neighbors gave up on that idiocy after 1973.

Gazans stand alone and they are dying by the truckload and they are quickly running out of time to try to end this.

Gazans can end this in a single day.

Surrender. Unconditionally.

Disband Hamas and surrender all Hamas leadership and all Hamas cadre that participated in the October 7th attacks.

Return all hostages - living and dead.

Disclose all remaining Hamas tunnel systems and weapons caches and operations centers.

Form a provisional Gaza government to speak for Gaza that excludes Hamas and radical Islamists that answers to Israel.

Accept Israeli military occupation and civilian leadership for an interim period of a year or two or three to quiet things down.

The choice belongs to the Gazans.

Surrender, and live...

Or keep fighting, and die...

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Death to Hamas...

Death to Hezbollah...

Go Team Israel...

 

[healthmyths]

Palestinian cries of "From the river to the sea" do, indeed, represent a call for genocide directed against the Jews of Israel.

------

Israel is a highly-valued economic, cultural and military ally in the Eastern Med and the Middle East (Levant).

A bulwark against barbarian Islamist Regimes in the region.

They were savagely and unjustifiably attacked on October 7, 2023.

The actions of Hamas on October 7th were a de facto Declaration of War.

Israel accepted the challenge and has been waging war against Hamas and its Gazan enablers since that time.

Hamas and the Gazans are Losing the War.

Hamas embeds its fighters and military assets and ops centers amongst hospitals, schools, mosques, relief centers, etc.

Hiding behind the skirts of their women and children like the chicken$hit pu$$ie$ that they truly are.

Thereby necessitating bombing and assaults upon such centers in order to destroy Hamas personnel and assets.

The Western Allies did much the same thing in Hamburg and Dresden and Schweinfurt and Tokyo and Hiroshima, etc.

To win a War one must defeat both the adversary's military and destroy the adversary's civilian support and enabling morale.

There is no Arab-Muslim cavalry coming over the hill to the rescue... their neighbors gave up on that idiocy after 1973.

Gazans stand alone and they are dying by the truckload and they are quickly running out of time to try to end this.

Gazans can end this in a single day.

Surrender. Unconditionally.

Disband Hamas and surrender all Hamas leadership and all Hamas cadre that participated in the October 7th attacks.

Return all hostages - living and dead.

Disclose all remaining Hamas tunnel systems and weapons caches and operations centers.

Form a provisional Gaza government to speak for Gaza that excludes Hamas and radical Islamists that answers to Israel.

Accept Israeli military occupation and civilian leadership for an interim period of a year or two or three to quiet things down.

The choice belongs to the Gazans.

Surrender, and live...

Or keep fighting, and die...

-------------

Death to Hamas...

Death to Hezbollah...

Go Team Israel...

Absolutely a totally valid and great comment submission! Thank you!!!

 

[ColonelAngus]

I am still trying to figure this out:

UNITED STATES MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX GIVING FREE SHIT TO UKRAINE = GOOD.

UNITED STATES MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX GIVING FREE SHIT TO ISRAEL = BAD.

TRUMP IS A ZIONIST JEW LVING HITLER WHO CONTROLS THE WORLD, WHILE ALSO BEING A PUTIN PUPPET.

DERP DERP DERP DERP

Seriously, if you USMB dumb ass lefty posters as NOT getting paid by a far left PAC or the DNC to spread communist propaganda, you are the dumbest motherfuckers who ever drew a breath.

 

[gipper]

You wrote.."A person without empathy is probably aligned with MAGA beliefs."

Totally a fabrication that 200,000 Gaza deaths!
FACTS from GAZA health itself..
These figures are significantly higher than the death toll of 38,345 announced on Thursday July 11 by the Gaza Health Ministry, which has been publishing daily figures since the start of Israel’s offensive against Hamas in the besieged Palestinian territory, in response to the Islamist militant group’s October 7 attack on Israeli soil.

‘More than 186,000 dead’ in Gaza: How credible are the estimates published on The Lancet?

According to a "letter" published on the website of the British medical journal The Lancet, "186,000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza". This is a significantly…

www.france24.com

So all the supporters moan and groan about the real 38,345 deaths NOT one of them including people on this forum recognize the major difference between Israel being bombarded by Hamas since 2005 with 20,000 rockets resulting in less than 2,000 Israeli deaths is the IRON DOME which was put into place by Israeli government to PROTECT their people!
But people who criticize Israel seem totally unaware of these 3 Hamas leader/billionaires who are making money from their followers DEATHS!!! Less than 5% of their $11,000,000,000 would have built an IRON DOME in Gaza!
But NOT one comment has been made about this even on this forum when I've supplied the FACTS!

Hamas leaders worth staggering $11B revel in luxury — while Gaza’s people suffer

Three of the terror group’s most senior figures are able fly private and relax in safety in the tiny emirate — a key US ally — while enjoying an $11bn fortune between them.

nypost.com

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Doesn’t matter what the number your nation of Israel has murdered. At least as relates our debate. You support mass murder of Palestinians and destruction of their homeland. I don’t. Hence you’re immoral and unthinking.

 

[Unkotare]

Doesn’t matter what the number ....

= you have no idea, idiot.