How many are sick and tired of Government ?

[Antiderivative]

Less Government is a Conservative belief.

No, that is a liberal belief. In fact, Republicans love to expand the government.

So if you really want to save this Nation,i recommend becoming a Conservative. That's the only logical way forward.

I am quite content with my leftist anarchist leanings, but thanks for the offer.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I like several Republicans currently serving in the House and Senate. But whenever I name them, the response is HE'S A RINO!!

i know what you mean Maggie....to me a RINO is a Liberal Republican....or he may fit in with the Conservative Democrats......i feel thats where i range.....im sure Dean probably doesnt think so....but thats his Problem.....

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Less Government is a Conservative belief.

No, that is a liberal belief. In fact, Republicans love to expand the government.

So if you really want to save this Nation,i recommend becoming a Conservative. That's the only logical way forward.

I am quite content with my leftist anarchist leanings, but thanks for the offer.

Well i disagree on Liberalism = Less Government. Real Liberals do tend to stand up for personal Freedom & Liberty but not so much for less Government. Also,Conservatives and Republicans are two different things. Many Republicans do agree with Democrats on expanding Government but they're not Conservatives. They're something else. You can call them Neo-Conservatives or RINO's. Real Conservatism is all about less Government interference in your life. You should re-think your Leftist-leanings. Most on the Left fight daily for much more Government. You seem conflicted. It seems pretty difficult to be both a Leftist and an Anarchist. The two conflict with each other too much. Try Conservatism,you might just like it.

 

[The T]

Pelosi talked of cleaning the swamp...she failed. The entire District Of Criminals needs an enema very badly.

 

[Antiderivative]

You seem conflicted. It seems pretty difficult to be both a Leftist and an Anarchist. The two conflict with each other too much. Try Conservatism,you might just like it.

Jefferson, Paine, Bastiat, Proudhon, the Physiocrats, and many others all disagree with you.

And Rothbard is surely right in thinking that what we now call free-market libertarianism was originally a left-wing position. The great liberal economist Frédéric Bastiat sat on the left side of the French national assembly, with the anarcho-socialist Proudhon. Many of the causes we now think of as paradigmatically left-wing — feminism, antiracism, antimilitarism, the defense of laborers and consumers against big business — were traditionally embraced and promoted specifically by free-market radicals
http://mises.org/daily/2099

 

[uptownlivin90]

I'm not tired or frustrated. At this point, I'm just irate.

 

[uptownlivin90]

Pelosi talked of cleaning the swamp...she failed. The entire District Of Criminals needs an enema very badly.

Failed? She didn't even make an attempt.

Pelosi's state IS the swamp.

 

[Woyzeck]

How many of you are just as sick and tired of Government telling us what we can and can not do?

Why does the left keep wanting more and more government, more and more money?
Aren't they just as sick of being told what to do and what not to do?
Why do they keep voting for politicians who want to run our lives? It's in both parties,but more so it the Democratic party.
I'm sick of government telling us;

What we can and can not eat.
What we can and can not drive.
What can and can and can not say.
What kind of light bulbs to use.
How we can and can not worship.
What we can and can not put in our yards.
Where we can an can not fly the American Flag
How we can and can not raise our children
Paying Government for permits for our children to sell lemonade and cookies.
What jobs we can and can not have.

Aren't You ?

The thread title is such a cocktease. You aren't anarchist at all.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

You seem conflicted. It seems pretty difficult to be both a Leftist and an Anarchist. The two conflict with each other too much. Try Conservatism,you might just like it.

Jefferson, Paine, Bastiat, Proudhon, the Physiocrats, and many others all disagree with you.

And Rothbard is surely right in thinking that what we now call free-market libertarianism was originally a left-wing position. The great liberal economist Frédéric Bastiat sat on the left side of the French national assembly, with the anarcho-socialist Proudhon. Many of the causes we now think of as paradigmatically left-wing — feminism, antiracism, antimilitarism, the defense of laborers and consumers against big business — were traditionally embraced and promoted specifically by free-market radicals
Rothbard's "Left and Right": Forty Years Later - Roderick T. Long - Mises Daily

Being a Leftist and an Anarchist at the same time just doesn't work. Most Leftists only fight for much more Government interference in your life. They're as far away from being Anarchists as you can get. I think you're you're just confused and conflicted. Less Government is the logical way forward. And that's what real Conservatism is all about. Give it a shot.

 

[Woyzeck]

You seem conflicted. It seems pretty difficult to be both a Leftist and an Anarchist. The two conflict with each other too much. Try Conservatism,you might just like it.

Jefferson, Paine, Bastiat, Proudhon, the Physiocrats, and many others all disagree with you.

And Rothbard is surely right in thinking that what we now call free-market libertarianism was originally a left-wing position. The great liberal economist Frédéric Bastiat sat on the left side of the French national assembly, with the anarcho-socialist Proudhon. Many of the causes we now think of as paradigmatically left-wing — feminism, antiracism, antimilitarism, the defense of laborers and consumers against big business — were traditionally embraced and promoted specifically by free-market radicals
Rothbard's "Left and Right": Forty Years Later - Roderick T. Long - Mises Daily

Being a Leftist and an Anarchist at the same time just doesn't work. Most Leftists only fight for much more Government interference in your life. They're as far away from being Anarchists as you can get. I think you're you're just confused and conflicted. Less Government is the logical way forward. And that's what real Conservatism is all about. Give it a shot.

Anarchists are conservatives, is that what you're saying? This is like saying gravity sucks you into outer space.

 

[Antiderivative]

Being a Leftist and an Anarchist at the same time just doesn't work.

Why do you have trouble with facts?

Most Leftists only fight for much more Government interference in your life. They're as far away from being Anarchists as you can get. I think you're you're just confused and conflicted. Less Government is the logical way forward. And that's what real Conservatism is all about. Give it a shot.

Modern day liberals are not the inheritors of liberalism. You seemed to be confused about this, while preaching the fact that Republicans are not necessarily Conservative. Has it ever occurred to you that Democrats are not liberal?

There is much overlap between anarchist liberalism and the Conservative movement started by Ron Paul. I don't deny this fact. However, this Conservative movement can largely trace its roots back to liberalism.

 

[MaggieMae]

I happen to think we have the greatest government in the world

i agree....but if someone doesnt bring a good majority of the people from BOTH sides together to solve these problems we have.....then that Government aint going to mean Squat....

I don't think that's going to happen until there is new leadership in both the House and the Senate. Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell can't stand each other; Boehner and Pelosi will never have a compromised working relationship. So they all gather their troops to stop whatever the other is trying to do, and literally nothing meaningful ever gets done. Even if Obama loses to a Republican, that Republican will have the same obstacles. Reid just won reelection, so he's in for another 4 years; McConnell for another 2. And depending on votes in 2012, either Boehner will keep his seat or Pelosi will have it back.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Jefferson, Paine, Bastiat, Proudhon, the Physiocrats, and many others all disagree with you.

And Rothbard is surely right in thinking that what we now call free-market libertarianism was originally a left-wing position. The great liberal economist Frédéric Bastiat sat on the left side of the French national assembly, with the anarcho-socialist Proudhon. Many of the causes we now think of as paradigmatically left-wing — feminism, antiracism, antimilitarism, the defense of laborers and consumers against big business — were traditionally embraced and promoted specifically by free-market radicals
Rothbard's "Left and Right": Forty Years Later - Roderick T. Long - Mises Daily

Being a Leftist and an Anarchist at the same time just doesn't work. Most Leftists only fight for much more Government interference in your life. They're as far away from being Anarchists as you can get. I think you're you're just confused and conflicted. Less Government is the logical way forward. And that's what real Conservatism is all about. Give it a shot.

Anarchists are conservatives, is that what you're saying? This is like saying gravity sucks you into outer space.

Nope. I'm not saying that. I was just referring to your professed Leftist/Anarchist-leanings. I was just stating that Leftists are as far away from being Anarchists as you can get. That's why i said you seem very confused and conflicted. Conservatives are for less Government. So maybe you should think about your political beliefs a bit more? Just a suggestion anyway.

 

[Woyzeck]

Being a Leftist and an Anarchist at the same time just doesn't work. Most Leftists only fight for much more Government interference in your life. They're as far away from being Anarchists as you can get. I think you're you're just confused and conflicted. Less Government is the logical way forward. And that's what real Conservatism is all about. Give it a shot.

Anarchists are conservatives, is that what you're saying? This is like saying gravity sucks you into outer space.

Nope. I'm not saying that. I was just referring to your professed Leftist/Anarchist-leanings. I was just stating that Leftists are as far away from being Anarchists as you can get. That's why i said you seem very confused and conflicted. Conservatives are for less Government. So maybe you should think about your political beliefs a bit more? Just a suggestion anyway.

I think you should start thinking more. Anarchists, along with communists, socialists, and so on are always on the left. I think you might need to admit you're wrong here.

 

[The T]

Pelosi talked of cleaning the swamp...she failed. The entire District Of Criminals needs an enema very badly.

Failed? She didn't even make an attempt.

Pelosi's state IS the swamp.

TOKEN ADMONISHMENT(Chuckie Rangle)...and one has YET to answer...Maxine (The Mouth) Waters

What happened to her?

 

[MaggieMae]

I like several Republicans currently serving in the House and Senate. But whenever I name them, the response is HE'S A RINO!!

i know what you mean Maggie....to me a RINO is a Liberal Republican....or he may fit in with the Conservative Democrats......i feel thats where i range.....im sure Dean probably doesnt think so....but thats his Problem.....

I think in moments of sanity, any Republican or Democrat knows in his/her heart that there's a little conservatism and a little liberalism in everyone. Oddly, that admission is all it would take for members of Congress to begin compromising on the issues. Since they won't, however, on the more important issues we have to have all these little side committees made up of equal members to hammer out details, then they return to the room and tell the full membership what WILL happen (just like a teacher to a classroom of sixth graders). It shouldn't have to be that way.

I was discussing the non-action of Congress just last night with someone, and he blamed the live coverage of the House and Senate which can be seen on C-Span, saying that they all spend way too much time grandstanding ideological points and not enough time on details. He could be right, because I can't recall getting bills through Congress ever taking as long as it does now.

He also said they take way too many vacations. SO true. What the hell were they off last week for?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

How many are sick and tired of Government ?

'The government’ is fine: it does things which are indeed necessary and proper for a modern, 21st Century, First World, Industrialized Western nation. I have little patience for naïve reactionary nonsense wishing us back to ca 1832.

What I’m sick and tired of is partisan idiocy and blind political dogma taking the place of good governance.

There are deserving programs that merit funding, there are necessary regulations of industries clearly incapable or unwilling to police themselves, and there are illegal laws and like measures which are unconstitutional and should be struck down accordingly by Federal courts.

What I would like to see is a government run pragmatically, with laws predicated on objective reasoning and fact, not subjective ideology and pointless partisan conflict.

 

[The T]

How many are sick and tired of Government ?

'The government’ is fine: it does things which are indeed necessary and proper for a modern, 21st Century, First World, Industrialized Western nation. I have little patience for naïve reactionary nonsense wishing us back to ca 1832.

What I’m sick and tired of is partisan idiocy and blind political dogma taking the place of good governance.

There are deserving programs that merit funding, there are necessary regulations of industries clearly incapable or unwilling to police themselves, and there are illegal laws and like measures which are unconstitutional and should be struck down accordingly by Federal courts.

What I would like to see is a government run pragmatically, with laws predicated on objective reasoning and fact, not subjective ideology and pointless partisan conflict.

And I have little patience from people that haven't read the Founder's or the Constitution.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I happen to think we have the greatest government in the world

i agree....but if someone doesnt bring a good majority of the people from BOTH sides together to solve these problems we have.....then that Government aint going to mean Squat....

I don't think that's going to happen until there is new leadership in both the House and the Senate. Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell can't stand each other; Boehner and Pelosi will never have a compromised working relationship. So they all gather their troops to stop whatever the other is trying to do, and literally nothing meaningful ever gets done. Even if Obama loses to a Republican, that Republican will have the same obstacles. Reid just won reelection, so he's in for another 4 years; McConnell for another 2. And depending on votes in 2012, either Boehner will keep his seat or Pelosi will have it back.

as Metallica once sang...."Sad,But True"

 

[Kiki Cannoli]

If you really are sick and tired of Government,it's time to become a Conservative. And i mean a real Conservative. Not one of those phony Neo-Conservatives. Real Conservatives can save our Nation. But more people better start getting behind them or it will be too late. Do you really like what the Socialists/Progressives and Neocons have done to our Nation? I know i don't. Time for real change. Become a Conservative and help save the Nation.

By your proposal, all should think, vote and support the same exact lifestyle, philosophy, politics and "pursuit of happiness."

Firstly, impossible. But I am willing to play along, lets fast forward 50 years and all USA voting populi are conservative (by todays standards which to me means "change resistant".)

I'm curious what would this society (government) be named? I do not know of one that exists today, please share your vision. I'm intrigued.