How Far to the Left is Too Far?

[Siete]

Jesus is the farthest left that the spectrum goes, Hitler is on the right.

It's that simple.

Hitler lead the German Worker's Socialist party

And when did Jesus advocate government solutions to charity? Can you show me where that is in the bible?

now that's funny ... Government charity ... the Romans...


maybe advocating charity was the culprit that got Jesus nailed to a cross

 

[kaz]

Hitler was about as Socialist as Obama, and you already know that but won't admit it.

Yes, they are both socialists

Explain Socialism.
Obama admits 95% of income gains gone to top 1% - Sep. 15, 2013

Socialism is not a statistic, it's a form of government advocated by Obama, what does this article have to do with that even assuming it was true? It even says Obama is against what we are doing.

 

[KNB]

Explain Socialism.

 

[kaz]

Jesus is the farthest left that the spectrum goes, Hitler is on the right.

It's that simple.

Hitler lead the German Worker's Socialist party

And when did Jesus advocate government solutions to charity? Can you show me where that is in the bible?

now that's funny ... Government charity ... the Romans...


maybe advocating charity was the culprit that got Jesus nailed to a cross

Exactly, liberals advocate government "charity." Jesus didn't. So what does one have to do with the other?

 

[KNB]

Explain Liberalism.

 

[emilynghiem]

Democratic Socialists of America

Here are the people that have taken over the traditional Democratic Party. Who do you think they voted for in 2008 and 2012? Think they will back Warren(although they want Sanders) in 2016? You bet... in a heartbeat. Are there any Democrats out there that feel their party is too far to the left? Look at what this group stands for...is that not exactly what the Democratic Party stands for? I know Republican's that think its too far/not far enough to the right. please sound-off cause I want to know. Liberal's are quick to condemn Republican's as far right robots marching in lockstep. Better take a look around Democrats.

Dear [MENTION=49214]Bush92[/MENTION]
"Too far" is contradicting one's own "Prochoice principles":
* pushing mandates that penalize or regulate "free choice in health care"
while claiming to defend "free choice in reproductive health"
* pushing to BAN or target "reparative therapy" that is freely chosen
when even the Republicans opened up their platform to recognize choice of therapy
and even removed language targeting "homosexuality"

I thought the conflicts could be resolved by working with all people equally, where govt represents the people.

But it looks like with the Democrat Party, the party principles are handed down by top down hierarchy, like a RELIGION. So the changes have to come from the top, and handed down to the followers like marching orders.

I had thought all other Democrats could think for ourselves.
But apparently it is set up like a flock of sheep that doesn't move unless instructed
by higher ups.

The change has to be "endorsed" and implemented from the top.
This is the equivalent of a Political Religion, and the followers do not have free choice.

They have to follow their leaders, and if the leaders do wrong,
they have to forgive it until someone else corrects it, and they can follow that.

They aren't allowed to go against their political leaders or they get silenced by the Party.

 

[francoHFW]

This new bs GOP theory that Hitler was a socialist is the biggest crock yet. Tell us now that Nazi skinheads are lefty socialists...you're fecking brainwashed to the point of brain death....lol

 

[Slyhunter]

This new bs GOP theory that Hitler was a socialist is the biggest crock yet. Tell us now that Nazi skinheads are lefty socialists...you're fecking brainwashed to the point of brain death....lol

Nazi is acronym when translated into english is "National Socialist Party".
What modern day skinheads are, are besides the point.

 

[kaz]

Explain Socialism.

Socialism is the opposite of Capitalism. Socialism is central economic planning. Central planning can only be achieved with force, and only government can use force to impose it's will, so socialism is where industry is controlled by government. Capitalism is where consumers, suppliers, employees are all free to make the best decisions for themselves they want to make.

Full socialism is where government owns industry. Fascism, or socialism lite, is where industry is technically in private hands, but all decisions have to be approved by government. There is no real difference, government is the decision maker.

 

[kaz]

This new bs GOP theory that Hitler was a socialist is the biggest crock yet. Tell us now that Nazi skinheads are lefty socialists...you're fecking brainwashed to the point of brain death....lol

While technically in private hands, all decisions made by industry had to be approved by the government. If you have your name on the title of a car, but your keys are in your neighbor's pocket and your car is in their driveway and they decide when and who uses it, in reality, who's car is it?

 

[Mac1958]

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The Right is going to keep screaming about socialism, Marxism and communism, making it easy for the Left to deny, and while that circus is continuing the Left will slip a Euro-social democracy in under the Right's nose.

But don't tell anyone.

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[kaz]

Explain Liberalism.

Classic liberals believe in freedom and acceptance of difference.

Today, classic liberals are called libertarians.

The people who call themselves liberals today are actually authoritarian leftists. They have nothing in common with classic liberals, not in any way at all.

 

[kaz]

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The Right is going to keep screaming about socialism, Marxism and communism, making it easy for the Left to deny, and while that circus is continuing the Left will slip a Euro-social democracy in under the Right's nose.

But don't tell anyone.

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I'm not sure where you're going with that. Are you saying that if we stop telling people what they are that will somehow thwart them? Personally, I think we can say anything and they will get Euro-socialism, they have appealed to the greed of the masses. I'm not sure about the democracy part though, I see no reason to believe they support that. They are more a Saddam Hussein type of Democracy crowd.

 

[Silhouette]

Democratic Socialists of America

Here are the people that have taken over the traditional Democratic Party. Who do you think they voted for in 2008 and 2012? Think they will back Warren(although they want Sanders) in 2016? You bet... in a heartbeat. Are there any Democrats out there that feel their party is too far to the left? Look at what this group stands for...is that not exactly what the Democratic Party stands for? I know Republican's that think its too far/not far enough to the right. please sound-off cause I want to know. Liberal's are quick to condemn Republican's as far right robots marching in lockstep. Better take a look around Democrats.

Would drugging children with artificial hormones in order to aid in their fed-delusions that they are the opposite gender than what they are, in order to prepare them to later on amputate their own healthy genitals, leaving them mutilated for life qualify as "too far left"?

Would making it illegal for children's access to therapy aimed at helping them heal from being molested and resulting compulsions until they're too old to change the imprinting [age 18] be "too far left"?

Would honoring a child sex predator [Harvey Milk] recently at the Obama Whitehouse as representative of the "party's value system" be "too far left"?

As a lifelong democrat, these "platforms" attached to my party make me want to projectile vomit.

 

[g5000]

Jesus is the farthest left that the spectrum goes, Hitler is on the right.

It's that simple.

Hitler was a Nationalist SOCIALIST.

"B-b-b-b-but it says socialist!"



It always amuses me when idiots think the word "socialist" in Nazi means Hitler was a left winger.

It does not get more historically ignorant than that.

 

[g5000]

When gas chambers are involved, you are too far left.

Gas chambers to the right; re-education camps, killing fields, and gulags to the left.

 

[g5000]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/humor/276939-how-we-know-hitler-was-a-liberal.html

 

[g5000]

Why, here come some lefties now!

"Vote Obama!"

 

[g5000]

When someone is claiming that Hitler was on the left, that is their way of saying there is no such thing as being too far right.

 

[Mac1958]

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The Right is going to keep screaming about socialism, Marxism and communism, making it easy for the Left to deny, and while that circus is continuing the Left will slip a Euro-social democracy in under the Right's nose.

But don't tell anyone.

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I'm not sure where you're going with that. Are you saying that if we stop telling people what they are that will somehow thwart them? Personally, I think we can say anything and they will get Euro-socialism, they have appealed to the greed of the masses. I'm not sure about the democracy part though, I see no reason to believe they support that. They are more a Saddam Hussein type of Democracy crowd.

I agree that it's inevitable now.

My only point is that the Right is speeding up the process by incorrectly characterizing the goal.

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