Zone1 How do you imagine the Holy Spirit?

so do I think as well, if they claim to speak in tongues
God does grant the gift of tongues but rarely and always for a specific reason, random people claiming it in groups or settings are not blessed by God in my opinion.
 
The Holy Spirit is a force and has no body.
Yet Jesus spoke of the Holy Spirit as a person, like him, a man, who would be sent by God in the distant future.

"If I do not go your Advocate won't come whereas if I go I'll send him to you. When he comes, he will confute the world and show where wrong and right and judgment lie. He will convict them of wrong, by their refusal to believe in me; he will convince them that right is on my side, by showing that I go to the Father when I pass from your sight; and he will convince them of Divine judgment, by showing that the prince of this world stands condemned.

There is still much I could tell you but the burden would be too great for you now..

However when he comes, who IS the Spirit of truth, he will guide you into all the truth for he will not speak on his own authority but will only tell you what he hears, and make known to you the things that are coming. He will glorify me for everything he makes known to you he will draw from what is mine. All the Father has is mine, and thats why I said, "Everything he makes known to you he will draw from what is mine." John 16:7-15



The truth is Jewish people haven't been convinced that Jesus was right about anything so whatever you think is the Holy Spirit, a mighty wind that appeared at pentecost, was not what Jesus was talking about. If it was then when do you think this ghost is going to get around to doing what Jesus said he would be sent by God to do? Its been 2000 years and your ghost hasn't done one single thing that Jesus said he would be sent by God to do.

How do you resolve this? Where is he now? On vacation? Sleeping? Hiding? Playing tiddlywinks with the pope?

Boo.
 
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it is a mystery.

usually one thinks of him as a pigeon


but that is only one example
I have wondered if The Holy Spirit might be YHWh the Mother. Messiah Yeshua - Jesus made it clear that The Heavenly Father was doing the miracles, but He Jesus, the Son of Man or Son of David, was NOT doing the miracles that surrounded His ministry.

Jesus also implied that The Holy Spirit was even more powerful than He was by telling His disciples very clearly that their receiving The Holy Spirit into their minds and hearts to guide them, was far better than if He personally had lived on and on and on and on.

I imagine The Holy Spirit as being able to be with all eight billion of us, especially the disciples of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, twenty four seven, to help us to repent and begin to overcome and begin to emulate the example that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus set for all of us on how to live.

Yes, the Holy Spirit can appear as a man, or as a dove, but I do believe that The Holy Spirit is filling this world and all of us who will ask for more of the Holy Spirit's guidance.
 

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