How do we Know Human are Causing Climate Change?

[Mikeoxenormous]

Icebergs are melting
Hurricane season starts earlier

Grow up

How many fucking hurricanes have their been on the east coast so far? Wait for it.....

 

[Stann]

Okay stan, here is an analogy so even a 3rd grader like you can understand.


You are in a house that has 3 levels. You have a thermostat on the first floor of the house set for 72 degrees, while the upstairs is hotter because hot air rises so the temp is 74 degrees, while down in the basement, cool air goes down, so the temp is 70 degrees. So far so good right? Now if you raise the temp of the thermostat up 5 degrees, does the basement get lower than normal, or does it go up to 75 degrees, while the 2nd floor would be 79 degrees. For the past 20 years , you global warming zealots have been saying that the Earth has been warming year after year, so each fucking year, the temperature all over the Earth be hotter by those 20 fucking years. Dumbass progs are the reason why gas prices are so high, and solar and wind, make Socialist elites very wealthy.

Your analogy would make more sense if you used a fishbowl. The Earth is essentially are closed biosystem. But you went on to say much more, hinting that the majority of the world scientists are just money grubbers. Not sorry, that would be better applied to Big oil over the past 50 years, buy off every Republican they could to deny what was happening to the Earth and to prevent people from preparing for future without fossil fuels. That's exactly why we're in the current predicament we are.

 

[Stann]

How many fucking hurricanes have their been on the east coast so far? Wait for it.....

Repeating, Please grow up !

 

[Crick]

AGW fanatics don't care about money.

Todd, how many times on this forum have you mentioned the trillions of dollars you think we all want to spend?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Your analogy would make more sense if you used a fishbowl. The Earth is essentially are closed biosystem. But you went on to say much more, hinting that the majority of the world scientists are just money grubbers. Not sorry, that would be better applied to Big oil over the past 50 years, buy off every Republican they could to deny what was happening to the Earth and to prevent people from preparing for future without fossil fuels. That's exactly why we're in the current predicament we are.

So taking your fishbowl analogy. If the temperature of the water is 75 degrees and over the period of 20 years each year you raised the temperature by 1 degree after 20 years the water and everything else in it would be 95 fucking degrees there would not be any below normal temperatures. Follow the fucking money, on how someone like Al Jazeera Gore can become a 1/2 billionaire, the brown turd Obammy can own two mansions both on the ocean and most other progressive elites are millionaires, all because you think they are saving the planet, but stealing from US by taking our tax dollars.


...............................The brown turd's house Hawaii..................................The brown turd's house Marthas Vineyard

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Todd, how many times on this forum have you mentioned the trillions of dollars you think we all want to spend?

How many times have you denied it?

 

[Stann]

So taking your fishbowl analogy. If the temperature of the water is 75 degrees and over the period of 20 years each year you raised the temperature by 1 degree after 20 years the water and everything else in it would be 95 fucking degrees there would not be any below normal temperatures. Follow the fucking money, on how someone like Al Jazeera Gore can become a 1/2 billionaire, the brown turd Obammy can own two mansions both on the ocean and most other progressive elites are millionaires, all because you think they are saving the planet, but stealing from US by taking our tax dollars.


...............................The brown turd's house Hawaii..................................The brown turd's house Marthas Vineyard
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[Stann]

Interesting you call Obama a turd. He is ranked 10th best present ever. Where is your orange turd, that you obviously think the world of, ranks at near bottom, coming in at the 41st most popular.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Interesting you call Obama a turd. He is ranked 10th best present ever. Where is your orange turd, that you obviously think the world of, ranks at near bottom, coming in at the 41st most popular.

Bwaahhhaaaaa.......The brown turd Obammy was almost as bad as Jimmy Carter, but for the Lame Stream Media, carrying the water for him. If he was so great then the people would of voted in his secretary, but no one wanted 4 more years of minimum wage jobs and higher taxes. Oh yeah, before Biden, the turd doubled the national debt from 5 trillion to 9.5 trillion with 4 more trillion on the Fed books for the QE shit, where the rich got way richer and the poor dumbasses got poorer. Now stop trying to derail this thread and answer the question, why over 20 years of global warming because of ever increasing CO2, can my temperature be well below the highest record? You cant because you are a stupid twit.

 

[Crick]

Bwaahhhaaaaa.......The brown turd Obammy was almost as bad as Jimmy Carter, but for the Lame Stream Media, carrying the water for him. If he was so great then the people would of voted in his secretary, but no one wanted 4 more years of minimum wage jobs and higher taxes. Oh yeah, before Biden, the turd doubled the national debt from 5 trillion to 9.5 trillion with 4 more trillion on the Fed books for the QE shit, where the rich got way richer and the poor dumbasses got poorer. Now stop trying to derail this thread and answer the question, why over 20 years of global warming because of ever increasing CO2, can my temperature be well below the highest record? You cant because you are a stupid twit.

It's not the media that gives him that rating. It is the world's historians, a rather conservative group. That you should think that your temperature being well below the highest record somehow refutes AGW only shows your pathetic failings at basic science. The world has temperatures ranging almost 200 Fahrenheit degrees. What the temperature at your location might have been doing lately is really, really, really close to irrelevant. That you don't understand that is simply evidence that you're too ignorant to be participating in this conversation. And is very likely why you brought up Obama in a thread about anthropogenic global warming.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's not the media that gives him that rating. It is the world's historians, a rather conservative group. That you should think that your temperature being well below the highest record somehow refutes AGW only shows your pathetic failings at basic science. The world has temperatures ranging almost 200 Fahrenheit degrees. What the temperature at your location might have been doing lately is really, really, really close to irrelevant. That you don't understand that is simply evidence that you're too ignorant to be participating in this conversation. And is very likely why you brought up Obama in a thread about anthropogenic global warming.

It's not the media that gives him that rating. It is the world's historians, a rather conservative group.

Thanks for the laugh.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It's not the media that gives him that rating. It is the world's historians, a rather conservative group. That you should think that your temperature being well below the highest record somehow refutes AGW only shows your pathetic failings at basic science. The world has temperatures ranging almost 200 Fahrenheit degrees. What the temperature at your location might have been doing lately is really, really, really close to irrelevant. That you don't understand that is simply evidence that you're too ignorant to be participating in this conversation. And is very likely why you brought up Obama in a thread about anthropogenic global warming.

Have you ever taken a math class? What is 75 + 1 degree for 20(years) = ?

Now how can it be that over 20 years of warming, year by year, can you have below normal temperatures let alone 15 degrees below the hottest day on record? Come on man, it is 3rd grade math, did you ever finish 3rd grade?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It's not the media that gives him that rating. It is the world's historians, a rather conservative group.

Thanks for the laugh.

All they can do is lie all the time.

 

[Crick]

Have you ever taken a math class? What is 75 + 1 degree for 20(years) = ?

Now how can it be that over 20 years of warming, year by year, can you have below normal temperatures let alone 15 degrees below the hottest day on record? Come on man, it is 3rd grade math, did you ever finish 3rd grade?

The poles are still quite cold. The equators are still quite warm. Do you understand the concept of "average temperature". It appears that you do not. Let me explain.

Let's say I have taken a temperature measurement in Kansas City, Missouri once in the 15th of each month for one year. I have found the following temperatures:

25, 31, 33, 28, 42, 62, 78, 88, 88, 71, 58, 42.

Does any one of these accurately represent the temperature of Kansas City for that year? Hard to say. In calculating an AVERAGE, we will add all 12 of those values and then divide the sum by 12. When we do that we get:

25 + 31 + 33 + 28 + 42 + 62 + 78 + 88 + 88 + 71 + 58 + 42 = 646

646 / 12 = 53.83

So, we can say that the average annual temperature in Kansas City is 53.83 degrees. Roughly half the time it will be warmer than that and roughly half the time it will be colder than that. It is the centroid of all Kansas City temperatures.

Got it?

I didn't think so. But, hey, I tried.

 

[Grumblenuts]

It's not the media that gives him that rating. It is the world's historians, a rather conservative group. That you should think that your temperature being well below the highest record somehow refutes AGW only shows your pathetic failings at basic science. The world has temperatures ranging almost 200 Fahrenheit degrees. What the temperature at your location might have been doing lately is really, really, really close to irrelevant. That you don't understand that is simply evidence that you're too ignorant to be participating in this conversation. And is very likely why you brought up Obama in a thread about anthropogenic global warming.

5 Presidents With the Largest Impacts on the National Debt​

(in trillions) Percent Increase Added to Debt (in trillions)
Franklin D. Roosevelt 1048% 0.236
Woodrow Wilson 723% 0.021
Ronald Reagan 186% 1.86
George W. Bush 101% 5.85
Barack Obama 74% 8.6
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1980: Electronic Age for Treasury Securities​

Official Portrait of
President Ronald Reagan, 1981

"For decades, we have piled deficit upon deficit, mortgaging our future and our children's future for the temporary convenience of the present.... You and I, as individuals, can, by borrowing, live beyond our means, but for only a limited period of time. Why, then, should we think that collectively, as a nation, we are not bound by that same limitation?"

Ronald Reagan, 1981, Inaugural address

Ronald Reagan (b, February 6, 1911 - d, June 5, 2004), who became the 40th president of the United States in 1980, declared "debt" to be one of his major campaign issues.

Reagan and his advisors were adherents of Milton Friedman (b. July 31, 1912 - d. November 16, 2006), an American Nobel Laureate economist, a promoter of "economic liberalism," and an intellectual renowned for his theories of "consumption analysis." Friedman advocated minimizing the role of government in a free market as a means of creating political and social freedom. This "laissez-faire" style of economics allowed "the market" to set prices and interest rates.

Series HH Bond, 1980

Between 1980 and 1990, the debt more than tripled as the government borrowed money to fund military build-ups and many elaborate new policies, such as "the war on drugs." Americans began relying more and more on credit cards and jumbo mortgages, and being "in debt" became a new way of life in America.

 

[Stann]

Bwaahhhaaaaa.......The brown turd Obammy was almost as bad as Jimmy Carter, but for the Lame Stream Media, carrying the water for him. If he was so great then the people would of voted in his secretary, but no one wanted 4 more years of minimum wage jobs and higher taxes. Oh yeah, before Biden, the turd doubled the national debt from 5 trillion to 9.5 trillion with 4 more trillion on the Fed books for the QE shit, where the rich got way richer and the poor dumbasses got poorer. Now stop trying to derail this thread and answer the question, why over 20 years of global warming because of ever increasing CO2, can my temperature be well below the highest record? You cant because you are a stupid twit.

Chris said it all, your claims are bogus just like you are. And by the way, your buddy trump did not create the bustling economy, he wrote in on the coattails of Obama and biden's great recovery act which got us out of another Republicans mess, Bush. And yes recovers are costly but Obama had to be honest and he included Bush's wars and that's why the national debt went up. What's Trump's excuse he took it up to over 20 trillion dollars.

 

[Stann]

Bwaahhhaaaaa.......The brown turd Obammy was almost as bad as Jimmy Carter, but for the Lame Stream Media, carrying the water for him. If he was so great then the people would of voted in his secretary, but no one wanted 4 more years of minimum wage jobs and higher taxes. Oh yeah, before Biden, the turd doubled the national debt from 5 trillion to 9.5 trillion with 4 more trillion on the Fed books for the QE shit, where the rich got way richer and the poor dumbasses got poorer. Now stop trying to derail this thread and answer the question, why over 20 years of global warming because of ever increasing CO2, can my temperature be well below the highest record? You cant because you are a stupid twit.

So I looked it up again. Obama left Trump with a good, rapidly growing economy. The national debt was 9 trillion dollars because he included the Iraq in Afghanistan war which which Bush did not. When Trump left office he had increased the national debt to 27 trillion and the economy was at a standstill because of the pandemic and his failures to deal with it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So I looked it up again. Obama left Trump with a good, rapidly growing economy. The national debt was 9 trillion dollars because he included the Iraq in Afghanistan war which which Bush did not. When Trump left office he had increased the national debt to 27 trillion and the economy was at a standstill because of the pandemic and his failures to deal with it.

So I looked it up again. Obama left Trump with a good, rapidly growing economy.

+1.6% was "rapidly growing?

The national debt was 9 trillion dollars because he included the Iraq in Afghanistan war which which Bush did not.

Obama didn't change any bookkeeping for the national debt.
Iraq and Afghanistan were never "excluded" from the debt.

It was $19.9 trillion when Obama left, $10.6 trillion when he started.

When Trump left office he had increased the national debt to 27 trillion and the economy was at a standstill

Standstill?

Real Gross Domestic Product | FRED | St. Louis Fed

View the annual rate of economic output, or the inflation-adjusted value of all new goods and services produced by labor and property located in the U.S.

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It grew 33.8% in Q3 2020 and 4.5% in Q4 2020.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

The poles are still quite cold. The equators are still quite warm. Do you understand the concept of "average temperature". It appears that you do not. Let me explain.

Let's say I have taken a temperature measurement in Kansas City, Missouri once in the 15th of each month for one year. I have found the following temperatures:

25, 31, 33, 28, 42, 62, 78, 88, 88, 71, 58, 42.

Does any one of these accurately represent the temperature of Kansas City for that year? Hard to say. In calculating an AVERAGE, we will add all 12 of those values and then divide the sum by 12. When we do that we get:

25 + 31 + 33 + 28 + 42 + 62 + 78 + 88 + 88 + 71 + 58 + 42 = 646

646 / 12 = 53.83

So, we can say that the average annual temperature in Kansas City is 53.83 degrees. Roughly half the time it will be warmer than that and roughly half the time it will be colder than that. It is the centroid of all Kansas City temperatures.

Got it?

I didn't think so. But, hey, I tried.

Let me once again fill you in. When you have a place on Earth that has a high of 100 degrees, then over 20 years, with Global Warming each year increasing, because CO2 is increasing, would the temperature of that place be 15 degrees cooler or hotter? There nice and easy for a 1st grader even...


If the temperature was 100 degrees, and over 20 years a new ice age was coming each year the temperature was decreasing would the temperature of the place be 15 degrees cooler or hotter? Had to give the counter point because so far our place is getting a little cooler each year. Could it be that Florida is now God's county so it is getting better while your place must be Hell that is why it is warming up?

 

[Crick]

So I looked it up again. Obama left Trump with a good, rapidly growing economy.

+1.6% was "rapidly growing?

The national debt was 9 trillion dollars because he included the Iraq in Afghanistan war which which Bush did not.

Obama didn't change any bookkeeping for the national debt.
Iraq and Afghanistan were never "excluded" from the debt.

It was $19.9 trillion when Obama left, $10.6 trillion when he started.

When Trump left office he had increased the national debt to 27 trillion and the economy was at a standstill

Standstill?

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Real Gross Domestic Product | FRED | St. Louis Fed

View the annual rate of economic output, or the inflation-adjusted value of all new goods and services produced by labor and property located in the U.S.

fred.stlouisfed.org

It grew 33.8% in Q3 2020 and 4.5% in Q4 2020.

Kinda oddly timed graph if you were trying to brag about Trump's economic performance there Todd.