How Do We Go From WWII Greatest...to 2016 Shit

[owebo]

My friend, you know exactly nothing about me. For starters I'm capable of holding this conversation in a language not my own, and my education, although not in the US is extensive. Secondly I actually have traveled quite extensively. Thirdly, I actually have first hand experience living in another country. Fourthly, I'm still waiting for you to come out with the first of your 20 trillion figures. And lastly every time you post you call me or 320 a name, which says not to much about your education but says everything about the person you are.

Fourthly, I'm still waiting for you to come out with the first of your 20 trillion figures.

It's the US debt, the only figure that owebo acknowledges.

I wouldn't waste too much energy on that particular sock if I were you.

I don't blame you for not wanting to be intellectually owned by me either....

 

[JimBowie1958]

Exporters of US jobs kills us. Politically correct pussified education system kills us. Finally the liberal media and college campus socialism are all against the United States being strong.

Bush 41 decided to open the USA to 65k H1-Bs annually who came in and took top paying jobs for STEM white collar people, and it has gone on for 26+ years.

 

[owebo]

Exporters of US jobs kills us. Politically correct pussified education system kills us. Finally the liberal media and college campus socialism are all against the United States being strong.

Bush 41 decided to open the USA to 65k H1-Bs annually who came in and took top paying jobs for STEM white collar people, and it has gone on for 26+ years.

Problem is, there are so presciois few Americans with STEM degrees....they simply cannot pass college due to their liberal indoctrinated public school educations......I hire most of my engineers on H1-B visas from, wait for it....Greece....go figure....

 

[Bush92]

By what measure(s) do you consider the U.S. position as that of "sh*t?"

• America’s Global Image
  
• Ranking America
• We're No. 1! We're No. 1! We're ... uh ... not? - CNN.com
  
• US OECD Student Assessment (2012)
• These are the world’s best countries. (Sorry, America — you’re No. 4.)
  
• The World's Most Reputable Countries 2016: U.S. Ranks 28th
  
• Academic Ranking of World Universities 2015 -- 16 of the top 20 in the world are in the U.S., and seven of them are state schools.
  
• Index of Economic Freedom

The preponderance of information one finds at the links above in no way suggest the U.S. is even close to being "sh*t." You may think the U.S. is "sh*t," but that's merely a reflection of your ignorance about either the U.S., the rest of the world, or both. Perhaps you think that because you aren't aware that there are some 180 countries in the world. I really can't say. What I can say is that your perception and reality aren't well mated.

We have "gay pride parades" in our streets and a lavender military. We have lost our manufacturing base and millions of jobs. We have lost our moral compass. We have people who expect government hand outs. We have a racist education system that teaches white guilt.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Opinions, nothing more, Bush92.

 

[Bush92]

Opinions, nothing more, Bush92.

Those "opinions" will go to the polls Tuesday in places like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Ohio and make America great again.

 

[JakeStarkey]

That is your opinion, yes.

 

[Bush92]

That is your opinion, yes.

I state only the facts.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You state only your opinions

Your opinions are not facts

 

[sealybobo]

Exporters of US jobs kills us. Politically correct pussified education system kills us. Finally the liberal media and college campus socialism are all against the United States being strong.

Guys like ge's Jack welch broke the social contract with employees and Reagan broke the unions then Gw sent jobs overseas.

And the rich have never been richer. Rich Republicans are happy and don't know what you're crying about.

By the way unemployment is down and wages are up thanks obama

Idiot Jack grew GE into a $130 billion dollar a year giant 10x larger than it was when he took over. His executive leadership program at GE grew and developed many of the executives who would go on to be the CEO's of other fortune 500 companies. You should get down on your knees and kiss his feet.

Also a new era of corporate greed and lowering the value of workers

 

[sealybobo]

Why is it that coming out with actual measurable facts makes somebody an indoctrinated idiot? But coming out with unsupported, unprovable opinions, makes somebody right?

Thank you.

Of course, the overwhelming majority of members who post on USMB are dyed-in-the-wool "post truthers" who have no regard for complete stories, details, and preponderances of evidence. Truly, I think I can count on one hand the number of members whose remarks I've read whereby they've (1) posted non-editorial content to support their views, (2) read rigorous research on the topic about which they seem passionate, (3) know very well the subject matter of which they write, and (4) recognize their anecdotal observations and experiences may not be representative of those of most people.

When the pastor preaches at the lectern, faith is all one needs to accept his message, but on legislative matters, sound logic based on verifiable and relevant facts is all that matters.

More disturbing in my view are those who revert to name calling because they are not capable of defending their opinions. The people who call somebody an idiot because they get confronted with actual facts. You can't have a conversation if the other party can't even show enough maturity to actually answer the question posed to them.

Indeed...they do.....20 trillion figures beats your fascist tripe.....

People like this.

I love you pseudo elitist fascist pricks the most....

You're lack of education makes toying with you liberal tools endless entertainment....

My friend, you know exactly nothing about me. For starters I'm capable of holding this conversation in a language not my own, and my education, although not in the US is extensive. Secondly I actually have traveled quite extensively. Thirdly, I actually have first hand experience living in another country. Fourthly, I'm still waiting for you to come out with the first of your 20 trillion figures. And lastly every time you post you call me or 320 a name, which says not to much about your education but says everything about the person you are.

My fascist liberal fellow human, your words speak for you....you're just too fucking uneducated to realize it.....

There you go again with the fascism crap again.


The only poll I need to see is how you won't take my bet.

President hillary Clinton. You can say crooked to if you want. Say it. Crooked potus hillary Clinton

 

[Divine Wind]

How Do We Go From WWII Greatest...to 2016 Shit

Exporters of US jobs kills us. Politically correct pussified education system kills us. Finally the liberal media and college campus socialism are all against the United States being strong.

Partisan politics is killing us. A great Republican President once said "A house divided cannot stand" and he was correct. Our house is divided strongly by the partisan divide and it's destroying us.

As for exporters, a major chunk of both our economy and jobs are based on foreign trade.

From 2009:
http://trade.gov/press/publications/newsletters/ita_0509/wtw_0509.asp
A Vital Contributor to the Economy

Just as it always has during previous cycles of growth and recession, exporting holds an important place in the U.S. economy. In 2008, U.S. exports of goods and services, on a balance of payments basis, totaled $1.84 trillion, an increase of 12 percent over 2007.

During the past decade, the share of U.S. gross domestic product accounted for by exporting has been growing—from 10.9 percent in 1998 to 13.0 percent in 2008.

6 Million Jobs

In 2008, according to figures compiled by the Census Bureau, exports of manufactured goods totaled $1.12 trillion. Manufactured exports supported roughly 6 million U.S. jobs in 2006, the latest year for which figures are available. Of those export-supported jobs, 2.58 million were in manufacturing industries. Those jobs accounted for 19.9 percent of all U.S. manufacturing employment, nearly one out of every five jobs.

Trade Surplus for Services

In 2008, services—the other component of exporting—posted a record trade surplus of $139.7 billion, an increase of 17.3 percent over 2007. Services exports totaled $544.4 billion in 2008, an increase of 9.5 percent over 2007.

Top U.S. services exports included other private services, such as business, professional, and technical services ($238.3 billion); travel ($110.5 billion); and royalties and license fees ($88.2 billion).

The Benefits of International Trade
America cannot have a growing economy or lift the wages and incomes of our citizens unless we continue to reach beyond our borders and sell products, produce, and services to the 95% of the world’s population that lives outside the United States.

More than 41 million American jobs depend on trade, and trade is critical to the success of many sectors of the U.S. economy. Manufacturing is the sector that exports the most, with more than $1.4 trillion worth of exports in 2014. The U.S. Department of Commerce estimates that exports of manufactured goods directly support approximately 6 million U.S. factory jobs—roughly half of all manufacturing employment.

According to economic data from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, U.S. real manufacturing output has risen by nearly 80% over the past 25 years. This represents the continuation of a long trend: U.S. manufacturing value-added has grown eightfold since 1947 in real terms.

Vast productivity gains relating to increased use of automation and information technologies have helped U.S. manufacturers retain and in many areas enhance their global competitiveness in recent years, even as the number of Americans employed in manufacturing has declined since its peak in 1979.

U.S. exports of services are also booming, topping $716 billion in 2015 and achieving a trade surplus in services of $227 billion, according to the U.S. Department of Commerce. The United States is by far the world’s largest exporter of services, and America’s globally competitive service industries—including audiovisual, banking, energy services, express delivery, information technology, insurance, and telecommunications—benefit immensely from opportunities abroad.

American farmers and ranchers also depend on exports. The same is true for America’s farmers and ranchers. One in three acres on America’s farms is planted for exports. For many crops, such as wheat or almonds, more than half is sold abroad. U.S. agriculture is so productive there’s no way Americans could consume this bounty alone.

Amid a renewed focus on boosting U.S. exports, it is important to bear in mind that imports benefit Americans as well. They bring lower prices and more choices for American families as they try to stretch their budgets. Companies also depend on imports for raw materials and competitively priced inputs.

Imports give us access to products that would not otherwise be available—such as fresh fruit in the winter. Access to imports boosts the purchasing power of the average American household by about $10,000 annually. Companies’ imports of intermediate goods, raw materials, and capital goods account for more than 60% of all U.S. goods imports—lowering costs for manufacturers and other businesses and helping them hone their competitive edge.

Indeed, tremendous benefits have flowed from U.S. free-trade agreements (FTAs), which cover 20 countries. These countries represent approximately 6% of the world’s population outside the United States, and yet last year these markets purchased nearly half of all U.S. exports, according to the U.S. Department of Commerce. In other words, U.S. FTAs do an outstanding job making big markets even out of small economies.

The trade balance is a poor measure of the success of these agreements, but deficits are often cited by trade skeptics as a reason why the United States should not negotiate free trade agreements. However, with regard to manufactured goods, the United States ran a cumulative trade surplus with its trade agreement partner countries of more than $280 billion over the past eight years (2008-2015), according to data from the U.S. Department of Commerce. The United States also has global trade surpluses in services and agricultural products.

Together, these facts reveal that the U.S. trade deficit arises from trade in manufactured goods with countries where the United States has no trade agreement in place. It’s ludicrous to say trade agreements are contributing to the deficit.

Also overlooked in the U.S. trade debate is the fact that 98% of the roughly 300,000 U.S. companies that export are small and medium-sized businesses, and they account for one-third of U.S. merchandise exports, according to the U.S. Department of Commerce. The number of small and midsized firms that export has risen about threefold over the past two decades.

In the end, we cannot turn our back on international trade. It is an inevitable part of the world in the 21st century. We simply need our elected leaders to prioritize initiatives to open foreign markets so that U.S. companies can sell more of our goods and services overseas. Trade can provide a path to jobs and prosperity if we have the courage to seize it.

 

[Pete7469]

We have "gay pride parades" in our streets and a lavender military. We have lost our manufacturing base and millions of jobs. We have lost our moral compass. We have people who expect government hand outs. We have a racist education system that teaches white guilt.

Not that it hasn't been mentioned...

We are also

20 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT!!

Remember when the moonbat messiah pledged to cut the debt in half? He DOUBLED it. Meanwhile these sniveling pukes who for the entire 8 years of Bush gnashed their teeth and wailed about the debt Bush accumulated ignore the fact it has doubled. They were plenty vocal about the decline of the US when it was politically expedient. Then when they get their meat puppet faggot elected they pretend everything is going fine.

Then they get butthurt when people point out the fact that they're idiots.

 

[BluesLegend]

Exporters of US jobs kills us. Politically correct pussified education system kills us. Finally the liberal media and college campus socialism are all against the United States being strong.

Guys like ge's Jack welch broke the social contract with employees and Reagan broke the unions then Gw sent jobs overseas.

And the rich have never been richer. Rich Republicans are happy and don't know what you're crying about.

By the way unemployment is down and wages are up thanks obama

Idiot Jack grew GE into a $130 billion dollar a year giant 10x larger than it was when he took over. His executive leadership program at GE grew and developed many of the executives who would go on to be the CEO's of other fortune 500 companies. You should get down on your knees and kiss his feet.

Also a new era of corporate greed and lowering the value of workers

Are you dumb or something? Jack created 10's of thousands of high paying jobs for workers, how many has your filthy criminal Hillary created in her life yeah zero. You attack one of the iconic CEO's of the century with blatant liberal ignorance.

 

[Dragonlady]

Exporters of US jobs kills us. Politically correct pussified education system kills us. Finally the liberal media and college campus socialism are all against the United States being strong.

Guys like ge's Jack welch broke the social contract with employees and Reagan broke the unions then Gw sent jobs overseas.

And the rich have never been richer. Rich Republicans are happy and don't know what you're crying about.

By the way unemployment is down and wages are up thanks obama

Idiot Jack grew GE into a $130 billion dollar a year giant 10x larger than it was when he took over. His executive leadership program at GE grew and developed many of the executives who would go on to be the CEO's of other fortune 500 companies. You should get down on your knees and kiss his feet.

He grew the company by giving American jobs to Third World countries. The 1% made money, Jack and his executives made money, but money made offshore, stays offshore so the American people who lost their jobs made no money and received unemployment.

Furthermore, the taxes on profits made offshore stay their too, while GE became too big to fail, there was little benefit to the US economy or to US taxpayers. Dividends paid to the wealthy are taxed at a lower rate than wages or salaries so again, GE's success has no benefit to you unless you own stock.

 

[BluesLegend]

Exporters of US jobs kills us. Politically correct pussified education system kills us. Finally the liberal media and college campus socialism are all against the United States being strong.

Guys like ge's Jack welch broke the social contract with employees and Reagan broke the unions then Gw sent jobs overseas.

And the rich have never been richer. Rich Republicans are happy and don't know what you're crying about.

By the way unemployment is down and wages are up thanks obama

Idiot Jack grew GE into a $130 billion dollar a year giant 10x larger than it was when he took over. His executive leadership program at GE grew and developed many of the executives who would go on to be the CEO's of other fortune 500 companies. You should get down on your knees and kiss his feet.

He grew the company by giving American jobs to Third World countries. The 1% made money, Jack and his executives made money, but money made offshore, stays offshore so the American people who lost their jobs made no money and received unemployment.

Furthermore, the taxes on profits made offshore stay their too, while GE became too big to fail, there was little benefit to the US economy or to US taxpayers. Dividends paid to the wealthy are taxed at a lower rate than wages or salaries so again, GE's success has no benefit to you unless you own stock.

You are a liar, lets rate your post...lie, lie, true, lie, lie, lie, ignorant, true, lie. Goddamn how many Pinocchio's is that in one post?

Lets get some facts on the table shall we. GE had a manufacturing campus in NY for nearly 100 years. It employed over 70,000 workers at its peak. Today less than 2,000 so what happened? Yes the greedy bastard Democrats killed the golden goose. They taxed GE like vampires using it as a slush fund to spend like there's no tomorrow to the point that GE finally said enough and began moving the jobs to other states.

GE then sued the Democrats for the abusive taxation and won in court, forcing the city to give millions back to GE which it didn't have. So the city cranked up the taxes on homeowners who then fled in horror, killing not only the GE campus and jobs but the city itself.

Today the city is a shit hole where the poor live, high crime, and high taxes. The Democrats raised the taxes so high that they hit a NY State constitutional limit on how high you can raise taxes holy shit, the first city to ever raise taxes to that level in NY State.

So don't go blaming the GE CEO.

 

[JakeStarkey]

GE was not taxed like a vampire, but GE saw a great opportunity in paying maybe 1/6th labor wages to its minions overseas.

Blues has the mind of a minion.

 

[Bush92]

Exporters of US jobs kills us. Politically correct pussified education system kills us. Finally the liberal media and college campus socialism are all against the United States being strong.

Guys like ge's Jack welch broke the social contract with employees and Reagan broke the unions then Gw sent jobs overseas.

And the rich have never been richer. Rich Republicans are happy and don't know what you're crying about.

By the way unemployment is down and wages are up thanks obama

Idiot Jack grew GE into a $130 billion dollar a year giant 10x larger than it was when he took over. His executive leadership program at GE grew and developed many of the executives who would go on to be the CEO's of other fortune 500 companies. You should get down on your knees and kiss his feet.

He grew the company by giving American jobs to Third World countries. The 1% made money, Jack and his executives made money, but money made offshore, stays offshore so the American people who lost their jobs made no money and received unemployment.

Furthermore, the taxes on profits made offshore stay their too, while GE became too big to fail, there was little benefit to the US economy or to US taxpayers. Dividends paid to the wealthy are taxed at a lower rate than wages or salaries so again, GE's success has no benefit to you unless you own stock.

You are a liar, lets rate your post...lie, lie, true, lie, lie, lie, ignorant, true, lie. Goddamn how many Pinocchio's is that in one post?

Lets get some facts on the table shall we. GE had a manufacturing campus in NY for nearly 100 years. It employed over 70,000 workers at its peak. Today less than 2,000 so what happened? Yes the greedy bastard Democrats killed the golden goose. They taxed GE like vampires using it as a slush fund to spend like there's no tomorrow to the point that GE finally said enough and began moving the jobs to other states.

GE then sued the Democrats for the abusive taxation and won in court, forcing the city to give millions back to GE which it didn't have. So the city cranked up the taxes on homeowners who then fled in horror, killing not only the GE campus and jobs but the city itself.

Today the city is a shit hole where the poor live, high crime, and high taxes. The Democrats raised the taxes so high that they hit a NY State constitutional limit on how high you can raise taxes holy shit, the first city to ever raise taxes to that level in NY State.

So don't go blaming the GE CEO.

The Rust Belt is a creation of Neo Democrats like Clinton, Kerry, Biden, Dodd, Hart, and a slew of others.

 

[BluesLegend]

Exporters of US jobs kills us. Politically correct pussified education system kills us. Finally the liberal media and college campus socialism are all against the United States being strong.

Guys like ge's Jack welch broke the social contract with employees and Reagan broke the unions then Gw sent jobs overseas.

And the rich have never been richer. Rich Republicans are happy and don't know what you're crying about.

By the way unemployment is down and wages are up thanks obama

Idiot Jack grew GE into a $130 billion dollar a year giant 10x larger than it was when he took over. His executive leadership program at GE grew and developed many of the executives who would go on to be the CEO's of other fortune 500 companies. You should get down on your knees and kiss his feet.

He grew the company by giving American jobs to Third World countries. The 1% made money, Jack and his executives made money, but money made offshore, stays offshore so the American people who lost their jobs made no money and received unemployment.

Furthermore, the taxes on profits made offshore stay their too, while GE became too big to fail, there was little benefit to the US economy or to US taxpayers. Dividends paid to the wealthy are taxed at a lower rate than wages or salaries so again, GE's success has no benefit to you unless you own stock.

You are a liar, lets rate your post...lie, lie, true, lie, lie, lie, ignorant, true, lie. Goddamn how many Pinocchio's is that in one post?

Lets get some facts on the table shall we. GE had a manufacturing campus in NY for nearly 100 years. It employed over 70,000 workers at its peak. Today less than 2,000 so what happened? Yes the greedy bastard Democrats killed the golden goose. They taxed GE like vampires using it as a slush fund to spend like there's no tomorrow to the point that GE finally said enough and began moving the jobs to other states.

GE then sued the Democrats for the abusive taxation and won in court, forcing the city to give millions back to GE which it didn't have. So the city cranked up the taxes on homeowners who then fled in horror, killing not only the GE campus and jobs but the city itself.

Today the city is a shit hole where the poor live, high crime, and high taxes. The Democrats raised the taxes so high that they hit a NY State constitutional limit on how high you can raise taxes holy shit, the first city to ever raise taxes to that level in NY State.

So don't go blaming the GE CEO.

The Rust Belt is a creation of Neo Democrats like Clinton, Kerry, Biden, Dodd, Hart, and a slew of others.

Examples of Democrats killing the goose that laid the golden egg exist all across the country. Does it make sense to tax a business into bankruptcy or so high the business packs up and moves to another state leaving you with zero revenue? Of course not, but these Democrats can't seem to control their greed. They tax the fuck out of business then when the business folds or leaves they blame the business wtf.

 

[Bush92]

Guys like ge's Jack welch broke the social contract with employees and Reagan broke the unions then Gw sent jobs overseas.

And the rich have never been richer. Rich Republicans are happy and don't know what you're crying about.

By the way unemployment is down and wages are up thanks obama

Idiot Jack grew GE into a $130 billion dollar a year giant 10x larger than it was when he took over. His executive leadership program at GE grew and developed many of the executives who would go on to be the CEO's of other fortune 500 companies. You should get down on your knees and kiss his feet.

He grew the company by giving American jobs to Third World countries. The 1% made money, Jack and his executives made money, but money made offshore, stays offshore so the American people who lost their jobs made no money and received unemployment.

Furthermore, the taxes on profits made offshore stay their too, while GE became too big to fail, there was little benefit to the US economy or to US taxpayers. Dividends paid to the wealthy are taxed at a lower rate than wages or salaries so again, GE's success has no benefit to you unless you own stock.

You are a liar, lets rate your post...lie, lie, true, lie, lie, lie, ignorant, true, lie. Goddamn how many Pinocchio's is that in one post?

Lets get some facts on the table shall we. GE had a manufacturing campus in NY for nearly 100 years. It employed over 70,000 workers at its peak. Today less than 2,000 so what happened? Yes the greedy bastard Democrats killed the golden goose. They taxed GE like vampires using it as a slush fund to spend like there's no tomorrow to the point that GE finally said enough and began moving the jobs to other states.

GE then sued the Democrats for the abusive taxation and won in court, forcing the city to give millions back to GE which it didn't have. So the city cranked up the taxes on homeowners who then fled in horror, killing not only the GE campus and jobs but the city itself.

Today the city is a shit hole where the poor live, high crime, and high taxes. The Democrats raised the taxes so high that they hit a NY State constitutional limit on how high you can raise taxes holy shit, the first city to ever raise taxes to that level in NY State.

So don't go blaming the GE CEO.

The Rust Belt is a creation of Neo Democrats like Clinton, Kerry, Biden, Dodd, Hart, and a slew of others.

Examples of Democrats killing the goose that laid the golden egg exist all across the country. Does it make sense to tax a business into bankruptcy or so high the business packs up and moves to another state leaving you with zero revenue? Of course not, but these Democrats can't seem to control their greed. They tax the fuck out of business then when the business folds or leaves they blame the business wtf.

They do this in order to pay for welfare recipients who will in turn vote Democratic.