How Do Bad Cops Stay in Power? Just Look at Miami.

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Ahh..some of that good old corrupt policing..just like the the good ole days:



In a police department with a history of brutality, Captain Javier Ortiz holds a special distinction as Miami’s least-fireable man with a badge, a gun and a staggering history of citizen complaints for beatings, false arrests and bullying.
Over his 17 years on the job — including eight as the union president of the Fraternal Order of Police in South Florida — 49 people have complained about him to Internal Affairs as he amassed 19 official use-of-force incidents, $600,000 in lawsuit settlements and a book’s worth of terrible headlines related to his record and his racially inflammatory social media posts, many of which attacked alleged victims of police violence.
Yet Ortiz has repeatedly beaten back attempts to discipline him. He returned to work in March from a yearlong paid suspension during which state and federal investigators examined whether he “engaged in a pattern of abuse and bias against minorities, particularly African Americans … [and] has been known for cyber-stalking and doxing civilians who question his authority or file complaints against him.” The investigation was launched after three Miami police sergeants accused him of abusing his position and said the department had repeatedly botched investigations into him.
But investigators concluded their hands were tied because 13 of the 19 use-of-force complaints were beyond the five-year statute of limitations, and the others lacked enough hard evidence beyond the assertions of the alleged victims. The findings underscored a truism in many urban police departments: The most troublesome cops are so insulated by protective union contracts and laws passed by politicians who are eager to advertise their law-and-order bona fides that removing them is nearly impossible — even when their own colleagues are witnesses against them.
As a police officer with an encyclopedic knowledge of labor law and grievance procedures, Ortiz shielded himself over the years with the extensive protections woven into the local union’s collective bargaining agreement and Florida’s “Law Enforcement Officers’ Bill of Rights,” a police-friendly law that passed decades ago and has been continuously beefed up with bipartisan support. He has also availed himself of a controversial judicial doctrine, called qualified immunity, which shields police from certain forms of liability.
Among the special provisions that have made policing Florida’s police so difficult is a rule in the bill of rights that says all investigations must be wrapped up in 180 days. Critics say the rule is a vehicle for sympathetic colleagues to protect an officer simply by dragging their feet. In its review of Ortiz, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement reported that between 2013 and 2018 seven citizen complaints against him were voided because the department failed to finish investigating within the prescribed time limit.
 
Bad cops are better than no cops. Be respectful and you'll never have a problem with any cop.
Simply not true.
Bad cops are, at times, worse than no cops. The whole 'cow down' and be respectful..while this guy is robbing you, or disrespecting you, or setting you up, is the coward's way out.
Stand up to bad policing..hold cops accountable to the same laws as we are..and enforce it. Do away with limited immunity--and double down on accountability.
Most police are good police....in most places. But the bad, the incompetent, the protected tools of corrupt power..have always been a problem.
 
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Ahh..some of that good old corrupt policing..just like the the good ole days:



In a police department with a history of brutality, Captain Javier Ortiz holds a special distinction as Miami’s least-fireable man with a badge, a gun and a staggering history of citizen complaints for beatings, false arrests and bullying.
Over his 17 years on the job — including eight as the union president of the Fraternal Order of Police in South Florida — 49 people have complained about him to Internal Affairs as he amassed 19 official use-of-force incidents, $600,000 in lawsuit settlements and a book’s worth of terrible headlines related to his record and his racially inflammatory social media posts, many of which attacked alleged victims of police violence.
Yet Ortiz has repeatedly beaten back attempts to discipline him. He returned to work in March from a yearlong paid suspension during which state and federal investigators examined whether he “engaged in a pattern of abuse and bias against minorities, particularly African Americans … [and] has been known for cyber-stalking and doxing civilians who question his authority or file complaints against him.” The investigation was launched after three Miami police sergeants accused him of abusing his position and said the department had repeatedly botched investigations into him.
But investigators concluded their hands were tied because 13 of the 19 use-of-force complaints were beyond the five-year statute of limitations, and the others lacked enough hard evidence beyond the assertions of the alleged victims. The findings underscored a truism in many urban police departments: The most troublesome cops are so insulated by protective union contracts and laws passed by politicians who are eager to advertise their law-and-order bona fides that removing them is nearly impossible — even when their own colleagues are witnesses against them.
As a police officer with an encyclopedic knowledge of labor law and grievance procedures, Ortiz shielded himself over the years with the extensive protections woven into the local union’s collective bargaining agreement and Florida’s “Law Enforcement Officers’ Bill of Rights,” a police-friendly law that passed decades ago and has been continuously beefed up with bipartisan support. He has also availed himself of a controversial judicial doctrine, called qualified immunity, which shields police from certain forms of liability.
Among the special provisions that have made policing Florida’s police so difficult is a rule in the bill of rights that says all investigations must be wrapped up in 180 days. Critics say the rule is a vehicle for sympathetic colleagues to protect an officer simply by dragging their feet. In its review of Ortiz, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement reported that between 2013 and 2018 seven citizen complaints against him were voided because the department failed to finish investigating within the prescribed time limit.
Yeah Miami had a lot of rioting. No matter how hard you try, every occupation has some bad apples

Now that recruitment is way way down what the fuck do you think will be left?

Anyway Miami is a shit hole with nice weather and money. Seems the shit holes have the worst cops
 
So? Shit happens. Other people's problems.

Go make yourself a little cardboard sign and walk up and down the sidewalk, if it'll make you feel any better.

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Of course, when that shit happens to YOU--is a very different story eh?

The mocking of protesters amuses...since your ilk has some real issues when people protest poor policing..especially in poor..read non-white..areas.
 
Simply not true.
Bad cops are, at times, worse than no cops. The whole 'cow down' and be respectful..while this guy is robbing you, or disrespecting you, or setting you up, is the cowards way out.
Stand up to bad policing..hold cops accountable to the same laws as we are..and enforce it. Do away with limited immunity--and double down on accountability.
Most police are good police....in most places. But the bad, the incompetent, the protected tools of corrupt power..have always been a problem.
My libturd sister lives in the Miami area. She's taken me on a few ghetto tourist trips when I visit.

Have you ever driven through the slums of Miami. Ever see Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome??? Miami is worse
 
And yet there is change. At least in the second example the officer has been charged with murder.

He is no longer on the streets.
Change is happening.....but dinosaurs like the OP...are still out and about.
When you put a person in a uniform..give them the power of life and death..single them out time and time again to wallow in the worst that humanity has to offer--it is hard to maintain any level of empathy with the very community you are supposed to be protecting. It is human to fall into an 'us vs them' mentality.
I think cops should get an entire year off every 5---to decompress and remember why they became police in the first place.
Along with total accountabilty and zero tolerance for any 'blue wall' nonsense.
 
And yet there is change. At least in the second example the officer has been charged with murder.

He is no longer on the streets. Derek Chauvin is behind bars.

So a couple cops were taken off the streets?

Big fucking deal. There are thousands more out there who would beat the living crap out of you any time they felt like it.

:laughing0301:
 
Change is happening.....but dinosaurs like the OP...are still out and about.
When you put a person in a uniform..give them the power of life and death..single them out time and time again to wallow in the worst that humanity has to offer--it is hard to maintain any level of empathy with the very community you are supposed to be protecting. It is human to fall into an 'us vs them' mentality.
I think cops should get an entire year off every 5---to decompress and remember why they became police in the first place.
Along with total accountabilty and zero tolerance for any 'blue wall' nonsense.

I've said in the past that I would support something like that. Rotate their work.
 
So a couple cops were taken off the streets?

Big fucking deal. There are thousands more out there who would beat the living crap out of you any time they felt like it.

:laughing0301:
Indeed..and that..is the problem, right? For some, a uniform and a badge is a license to steal, to assault, sometimes even to rape and to kill.
Those are the enemies of society..as much, if not more so, than any honest criminal preying on society.
It is far past time to crush those sorts.
 
Change is happening.....but dinosaurs like the OP...are still out and about.
When you put a person in a uniform..give them the power of life and death..single them out time and time again to wallow in the worst that humanity has to offer--it is hard to maintain any level of empathy with the very community you are supposed to be protecting. It is human to fall into an 'us vs them' mentality.
I think cops should get an entire year off every 5---to decompress and remember why they became police in the first place.
Along with total accountabilty and zero tolerance for any 'blue wall' nonsense.

People in uniform aren't the only ones who have the power of life and death over you. What about those millions of people who have concealed carry permits and carry weapons? I doubt that many of them have had very much in the way of sensitivity training.

They stand behind you in the checkout line probably every day. You brush elbows with them as they pass you on the sidewalk. They sneak up behind you as you go about your daily life, unbeknownst to you. Many of them carry unsafe weapons, are poorly-trained, and carry in cheap Chinese-made holsters they bought at Walmart. Holsters that only take one errant nudge before their weapon falls out, clatters to the ground, and fires, giving you a big hole in the middle of your forehead.

The police are probably the last thing you should be worried about. :laughing0301:
 

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