How did whether a vaccine works become a political issue?

[Blackrook]

What did the FDA conclude?

FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems

Does not affect FDA-approved uses for malaria, lupus, and rheumatoid arthritis

FDA cautions use of hydroxychloroquine/chloroquine for COVID-19

Does not affect FDA-approved uses for malaria, lupus, and rheumatoid arthritis

www.fda.gov

This is from 01Jul20

My sister died from a heart attack while taking this drug for Rheumatoid arthritis.

So what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Show me proof that you have any science to back up any conclusion you have drawn from this one example.

Man that is some sick Leftist shit ....

Death is sick, mean and unforgiving. She had been taking the rheumatoid med(hydroxychloroquine)
for about six months before she died, I guess she never told the doc about the family history of heart attacks and strokes in the family.
My docs gave me Meloxicam but I stopped taking it over the heart attack increase issue.

You are actually using your mother's death to make a point on a political forum.

That's pretty ghoulish -- even for a Democrat.

 

[kiwiman127]

The FDA recommended that it’s purpose was not to treat Covid, because evidence based studies clearly showed it did not work. Comprehending amigo?

You are dodging the question.

Noted and dismissed !!!

No, you just are too stupid to comprehend reality. Facts are facts. Why don’t you actually post something that actually is the truth. You are all cultist opinion, based on some wackos opinion.

FDA cautions use of hydroxychloroquine/chloroquine for COVID-19

Does not affect FDA-approved uses for malaria, lupus, and rheumatoid arthritis

www.fda.gov

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

I'm barely following the story but it seems that Democrats oppose a certain drug that might or might not cure COVID-19 simply because Trump said it might.

That's pretty damn stupid -- even for Democrats.

Just know everything the democrats say, and everything the left wing media reports and everything their mindless useful idiotic marxbots repeat what they told to say is designed to destroy the free market and designed to rip all power from we the people and given to cultural marxist leaders.

That is all you need to know and only thing relevant to the reality of our situation.

Thanks for illustrating the thought pattern of the uneducated deplorable Cult45 reject. It saves precious time, and I appreciate the efforts.

 

[Blackrook]

Democrats actually have no use for science except in how they can bend it the way they want to serve their purposes.

 

[John T. Ford]

You are actually using your mother's death to make a point on a political forum.

That's pretty ghoulish -- even for a Democrat.

Leftism is a Mental Disorder !!!!

Any Questions?

 

[John T. Ford]

No, you just too stupid to comprehend reality. Facts are facts. Why don’t you actually post something that actually is the truth. You are all cultist opinion, based on some wackos opinion.

FDA cautions use of hydroxychloroquine/chloroquine for COVID-19

Does not affect FDA-approved uses for malaria, lupus, and rheumatoid arthritis

www.fda.gov

No ...

You are too stupid to answer the question.

We all see what you are doing here.

Run along lil' troll !!!

 

[kiwiman127]

No, you just too stupid to comprehend reality. Facts are facts. Why don’t you actually post something that actually is the truth. You are all cultist opinion, based on some wackos opinion.

FDA cautions use of hydroxychloroquine/chloroquine for COVID-19

Does not affect FDA-approved uses for malaria, lupus, and rheumatoid arthritis

www.fda.gov

No ...

You are too stupid to answer the question.

We all see what you are doing here.

Run along lil' troll !!!

You absolutely refuse to see the facts, dumb ass. The FDA link proves my point as facts. I would surmise that you are too lazy to read what Trump’s own FDA posted. Facts are facts.
Go ahead, live in your cultist fantasy world.

 

[Moonglow]

What did the FDA conclude?

FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems

Does not affect FDA-approved uses for malaria, lupus, and rheumatoid arthritis

FDA cautions use of hydroxychloroquine/chloroquine for COVID-19

Does not affect FDA-approved uses for malaria, lupus, and rheumatoid arthritis

www.fda.gov

This is from 01Jul20

My sister died from a heart attack while taking this drug for Rheumatoid arthritis.

So what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Show me proof that you have any science to back up any conclusion you have drawn from this one example.

Man that is some sick Leftist shit ....

Death is sick, mean and unforgiving. She had been taking the rheumatoid med(hydroxychloroquine)
for about six months before she died, I guess she never told the doc about the family history of heart attacks and strokes in the family.
My docs gave me Meloxicam but I stopped taking it over the heart attack increase issue.

You are actually using your mother's death to make a point on a political forum.

That's pretty ghoulish -- even for a Democrat.

I never mention my Mother who is alive and well...Why is it all you want to do is project and lie? Hydroxy kills people it may cure some things but COVID-19 is not one of them. I have shown proof that it is not acceptable as a cure, it may prevent COVID-19 but so does antibodies.

 

[Hossfly]

No answer, apparently, except "We hate Trump, so we oppose everything he says."

Pretty fucking dumb -- even for Democrats.

TDS is a nasty infliction I hear ....

Real nasty. Worse than crotch rot.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Democrats actually have no use for science except in how they can bend it the way they want to serve their purposes.

And you try and do the same, deplorable. And you fail Every single time. How does that kick in the nuts every single day feel to you?

I'm guessing it doesn't feel so good.

 

[John T. Ford]

You absolutely refuse to see the facts, dumb ass. The FDA link proves my point as facts. I would surmise that you are too lazy to read what Trump’s own FDA posted. Facts are facts.
Go ahead, live in your cultist fantasy world.

 

[Hossfly]

All doctors and medical professionals here take a minute to check out this drug an Australian doctor is prescribing. He was on Fox yesterday with some recovered near death patients. I looked it up and found it to be a virus killer.

Ivermectin


Australian Professor: Ivermectin 'Amazingly Successful' in ...
www.newsmax.com/health/health-news/australia...
An Australian drug known as Ivermectin, which is already in use throughout the world to treat parasitic conditions, is showing great results in killing coronavirus in studies involving patients, according to Sky News."Because I'm involved in developing these in the U.S.... Australia, Ivermectin, coronavirus, covid 264

 

[candycorn]

The moron who started the thread 12 minutes ago is complaining there are no responses. He needs a friend. And a life.

Where to begin?

Hydroxy is not a vaccine. Its an anti malaria drug. Malaria is caused by a parasite. Covid is caused by a virus.

Almost by definition, Hydroxy is not going to make anyone suffering from a virus well by itself. Even more dubious is that science has rejected the use of the drug to treat covid.

That is not to say that there may not be therapeutic benefits to taking Hydroxy. Much like taking Tylenol could make a cancer patient feel better. Its not going to cure anything but there are benefits.

You are apparently a medical doctor who has done extensive research to back your medical conclusions.

Too bad you failed to provide any citations or proof of your M.D.

No dingus; I just happen to know that a drug that eradicates a parasite is going to be useless against a virus.

 

[candycorn]

All doctors and medical professionals here take a minute to check out this drug an Australian doctor is prescribing. He was on Fox yesterday with some recovered near death patients. I looked it up and found it to be a virus killer.

Ivermectin


Australian Professor: Ivermectin 'Amazingly Successful' in ...
www.newsmax.com/health/health-news/australia...
An Australian drug known as Ivermectin, which is already in use throughout the world to treat parasitic conditions, is showing great results in killing coronavirus in studies involving patients, according to Sky News."Because I'm involved in developing these in the U.S.... Australia, Ivermectin, coronavirus, covid 264

The Blob's CDC shot that down:

Do Not Use Ivermectin for Animals as Treatment for COVID-19 in Humans

FDA recently became aware of increased public visibility of ivermectin after a research article that described the effect of the drug on SARS-CoV-2 in the lab.

www.fda.gov

Bigly

 

[2aguy]

I'm barely following the story but it seems that Democrats oppose a certain drug that might or might not cure COVID-19 simply because Trump said it might.

That's pretty damn stupid -- even for Democrats.

It's an election year and the democrats will make anything an issue in order to get power.

 

[2aguy]

The moron who started the thread 12 minutes ago is complaining there are no responses. He needs a friend. And a life.

Where to begin?

Hydroxy is not a vaccine. Its an anti malaria drug. Malaria is caused by a parasite. Covid is caused by a virus.

Almost by definition, Hydroxy is not going to make anyone suffering from a virus well by itself. Even more dubious is that science has rejected the use of the drug to treat covid.

That is not to say that there may not be therapeutic benefits to taking Hydroxy. Much like taking Tylenol could make a cancer patient feel better. Its not going to cure anything but there are benefits.

You don't know what you are talking about........there is lots of research showing that in the early stages of the Chinese Flu Hydroxy and Zinc it can keep people from getting worse....it has nothing to do with parasites it has to do with the bodies reaction to the chinese flu....and Hydroxy and zinc work to keep the body from reacting to the virus......

Here is an interview with an actual doctor talking about Hydroxy...he goes through the research too.....and how morons like you have politicized medical research...

 

[2aguy]

Can anyone name another time in the history of this Country when government sought to block medical doctors from prescribing an FDA approved medication?

Anyone?

Anyone?

The FDA recommended that it’s purpose was not to treat Covid, because evidence based studies clearly showed it did not work. Comprehending amigo?

Wrong...this Doctor explains how the leftists in medicine have politicized the debate when it should be based on actual science...

 

[BlueGin]

Democrats say they respect science but science gets kicked to the curb when Trump says a drug might work.

Democrats kick science to the curb regularly when it’s convenient.

 

[BlueGin]

Democrats say they respect science but science gets kicked to the curb when Trump says a drug might work.

How would he know it works if there have been no trials to show it effectiveness on COVID-19?

I'm not here to argue whether or not Trump was right.

I'm here to argue that Democrats are pretty damn stupid to say a drug can't possibly cure COVID-19 simply because Trump said it might.

It's one thing to hate a man.

But it's a much worse thing to use your influence to stop a drug that might cure people of a deadly virus simply because you hate a man.

They don’t want people cured. They want a high death rate.

 

[2aguy]

The moron who started the thread 12 minutes ago is complaining there are no responses. He needs a friend. And a life.

Where to begin?

Hydroxy is not a vaccine. Its an anti malaria drug. Malaria is caused by a parasite. Covid is caused by a virus.

Almost by definition, Hydroxy is not going to make anyone suffering from a virus well by itself. Even more dubious is that science has rejected the use of the drug to treat covid.

That is not to say that there may not be therapeutic benefits to taking Hydroxy. Much like taking Tylenol could make a cancer patient feel better. Its not going to cure anything but there are benefits.

You are apparently a medical doctor who has done extensive research to back your medical conclusions.

Too bad you failed to provide any citations or proof of your M.D.

No dingus; I just happen to know that a drug that eradicates a parasite is going to be useless against a virus.

You don't know what you are talking about...lives can be saved with these drugs...but....Trump has to be beaten in November, so they become eggs to your socialist omellete...

Amid the ongoing coronavirus pandemic Yale School of Public Health epidemiology professor Harvey Risch is asserting that the drug hydroxychloroquine, in conjunction with zinc and appropriate antibiotics, can help high-risk patients recover from COVID-19.

Risch draws a distinction between two stages of the illness, noting that while the treatment will likely work quickly during the first stage, it is not effective in helping people who have advanced to the more serious second stage.

"At the first stage, it is a flu-like illness. That illness will not kill you. If you are a high-risk patient and begin treatment immediately, you will almost certainly be done with it in a few days. When not treated, high-risk patients may progress. The virus then causes severe pneumonia and attacks many organs, including the heart. In this second stage, hydroxychloroquine is not effective," he explains in a Washington Examiner opinion piece.

Risch says that people in the high-risk category should be provided treatment even before they receive the results of their coronavirus test.

"The second thing to know is that most low-risk patients survive without treatment. Low risk means you are under age 60 and have no chronic conditions such as diabetes, obesity, and hypertension, have no past treatment for cancer, are not immunocompromised, etc. High risk means you are over 60 or you have one or more of those chronic conditions. High-risk patients need immediate treatment when they first show symptoms," he said.

"It is a serious and unconscionable mistake that the FDA has used inpatient data to block emergency use petitions for outpatient use. Further, already back in March, the FDA approved the emergency use of hydroxychloroquine for hospitalized patients, for whom it is demonstrably less effective than for outpatients," he said. "If hydroxychloroquine satisfied the FDA criteria for emergency inpatient use in March, it should more than satisfy those criteria now for outpatient use, where the evidence is much stronger."

Yale professor: Feds making 'unconscionable mistake' blocking hydroxychloroquine for COVID patients

Harvey Risch says treatment effective in helping people in early stages of disease, especially those with higher risks.

justthenews.com