How Chicago cut homicides by 20% this year

[hjmick]

It's going to have to happen for a few years in a row for this year not to have been a fluke...

 

[Peterf]

A few months ago, I listened to a speech of the Cook County State's Attorney, and she sounded good on the subject. I don't recall her mentioning gun control, especially since it was an American Legion banquet I suppose.

I daresay there are as many shootings in Chicago as ever, but perhaps the aim is worse.

"Perhaps the aim is worse" .... you could be on to something here. Try a 'free alcohol stamps for all those getting free food stamps' policy and you might get the number of Chicagoians killing each other below the number for a few European entire nations combined.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The US leads the world in incarceration and we still have murder rates three times that of similar countries.

We must be doing something wrong

What is a similar country to America?
Canada? - not even close.
Europe? - politically and demographically very different.
What other countries have such high crime areas due to past social engineering?

Look....we have a murder rate three to six times that of nations we consider "civilized"

It is something we should be ashamed of, not something we should rationalize

So Russia is not civilized? Canada has more violent crimes then we do, are they not civilized? Great Britain is not civilized? They have more violent crimes then we do.

 

[Meister]

The US leads the world in incarceration and we still have murder rates three times that of similar countries.

We must be doing something wrong

What is a similar country to America?
Canada? - not even close.
Europe? - politically and demographically very different.
What other countries have such high crime areas due to past social engineering?

Look....we have a murder rate three to six times that of nations we consider "civilized"

It is something we should be ashamed of, not something we should rationalize

This is liberal code, translate it and it reads, "United States is evil".

 

[theHawk]

'Small world of murder': As homicides drop, Chicago police focus on social networks of gangs - U.S. News

Murders are down this year by almost half in his district and about 20 percent citywide, according to department data. It’s the equivalent of more than 80 lives “saved,” as the commander puts it, and the lowest Chicago murder toll in a half century.

The switch was thrown quietly in May 2012, hidden inside a 16-page directive, “Gang Violence Reduction Strategy,” and largely ignored amid a 60 percent rise in murders in the first quarter alone. With less than a year on the job, McCarthy had already disbanded two special task forces, roving teams that muscled neighborhoods into submission. Now he was betting on what he calls “the next phase of community policing in this world”: an emphasis not on the traditional “hot spots” for crime, but on the “hot people” who commit most criminal acts. Chicago Police Department committed to using the new science of social network analysis — the same tools that allow Silicon Valley to predict who you know and what you might like to buy — to detail the city’s “small world of murder,” as one researcher put it, and use that knowledge to stop the next bullet before it's fired.

They could go a step further and just keep these thugs in jail. Rates would plummet, all without the need for gun control.

The US leads the world in incarceration and we still have murder rates three times that of similar countries.

We must be doing something wrong

Yes, there is something wrong. Most of those incarcerated end up being released. And in many cased they still commit more crimes, including murder.

I say we need to keep thugs locked up a lot longer than we do for violent crimes.

This isn't rocket science.

 

[theHawk]

The US leads the world in incarceration and we still have murder rates three times that of similar countries.

We must be doing something wrong

What is a similar country to America?
Canada? - not even close.
Europe? - politically and demographically very different.
What other countries have such high crime areas due to past social engineering?

Look....we have a murder rate three to six times that of nations we consider "civilized"

It is something we should be ashamed of, not something we should rationalize

Here's the problem RW, there are many uncivilized people in America. Do you honestly consider all those thugs in the hood "civilized"? They aren't, and they are actually proud of it as well. You're lumping them in with the rest of America and comparing those statistics to that of Europe, even though Europe doesn't have tens of millions of ghetto thugs like the US.

You continue to act so puzzled as to why the US has such high rates of crime, yet your won't acknowledge the truth. All you have to do is visit the FBI/DOJ website and look at their own report about the demographic breakdown of violent crimes and murders in the US. It's pretty damn obvious what "the problem" is.

But, you'd rather blame it on white Republicans that own guns. As if they are the ones killing everyone.

 

[Rozman]

'Small world of murder': As homicides drop, Chicago police focus on social networks of gangs - U.S. News

Murders are down this year by almost half in his district and about 20 percent citywide, according to department data. It’s the equivalent of more than 80 lives “saved,” as the commander puts it, and the lowest Chicago murder toll in a half century.

The switch was thrown quietly in May 2012, hidden inside a 16-page directive, “Gang Violence Reduction Strategy,” and largely ignored amid a 60 percent rise in murders in the first quarter alone. With less than a year on the job, McCarthy had already disbanded two special task forces, roving teams that muscled neighborhoods into submission. Now he was betting on what he calls “the next phase of community policing in this world”: an emphasis not on the traditional “hot spots” for crime, but on the “hot people” who commit most criminal acts. Chicago Police Department committed to using the new science of social network analysis — the same tools that allow Silicon Valley to predict who you know and what you might like to buy — to detail the city’s “small world of murder,” as one researcher put it, and use that knowledge to stop the next bullet before it's fired.

They could go a step further and just keep these thugs in jail. Rates would plummet, all without the need for gun control.

The US leads the world in incarceration and we still have murder rates three times that of similar countries.

We must be doing something wrong

The US leads the world in incarceration and we still have murder rates three times that of similar countries.

We put people in jail for committing crimes....
And we are the ones doing something wrong?

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

I really don't care how they do it. Let's remember that a large percentage of those killed in Chicago were innocent men, women and children who didn't do a damn thing to deserve a bullet in the head! And I said it when Mandela died, the loss of any man lessens the rest of us. Death, by any means, especially violent means, is a terrible thing and I don't give a damn what race or ethnicity you are.

I don't care who came up with it, who implemented it or anything else about it. You got maggots that are lower than whale shit walking the streets and everyone KNOWS who they are. You want to make a difference, stop and tow the next gang-banger ride that doesn't have a valid license plate or proof of insurance and lets see how a 'drive-by' goes down on foot.

And lets be a little bit realistic for a time, shall we? Screaming about how the cops don't go into rich neighborhoods? That little grandma down the street ain't dealing meth behind that reinforced gate on her front door. Have a little more brains than the TSA, will ya?

 

[Rozman]

I wonder how the wife and family of that guy who was killed in NJ the other night when some
guys were practicing redistribution of wealth when they killed the guy for his vehicle.

What did they do that was wrong?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

'Small world of murder': As homicides drop, Chicago police focus on social networks of gangs - U.S. News

Murders are down this year by almost half in his district and about 20 percent citywide, according to department data. It’s the equivalent of more than 80 lives “saved,” as the commander puts it, and the lowest Chicago murder toll in a half century.

The switch was thrown quietly in May 2012, hidden inside a 16-page directive, “Gang Violence Reduction Strategy,” and largely ignored amid a 60 percent rise in murders in the first quarter alone. With less than a year on the job, McCarthy had already disbanded two special task forces, roving teams that muscled neighborhoods into submission. Now he was betting on what he calls “the next phase of community policing in this world”: an emphasis not on the traditional “hot spots” for crime, but on the “hot people” who commit most criminal acts. Chicago Police Department committed to using the new science of social network analysis — the same tools that allow Silicon Valley to predict who you know and what you might like to buy — to detail the city’s “small world of murder,” as one researcher put it, and use that knowledge to stop the next bullet before it's fired.

Translation: They changed the way they run roughshod over individual liberties, and claimed it worked when a statistical blip occurred.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So basically they dropped the crime rate by racial/class profiling.
Hmm...I thought liberals hated this?

They do, but it takes them awhile to realize that is what is happening when cops change a few words around to make it look like they stopped.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

'Small world of murder': As homicides drop, Chicago police focus on social networks of gangs - U.S. News

Murders are down this year by almost half in his district and about 20 percent citywide, according to department data. It’s the equivalent of more than 80 lives “saved,” as the commander puts it, and the lowest Chicago murder toll in a half century.

The switch was thrown quietly in May 2012, hidden inside a 16-page directive, “Gang Violence Reduction Strategy,” and largely ignored amid a 60 percent rise in murders in the first quarter alone. With less than a year on the job, McCarthy had already disbanded two special task forces, roving teams that muscled neighborhoods into submission. Now he was betting on what he calls “the next phase of community policing in this world”: an emphasis not on the traditional “hot spots” for crime, but on the “hot people” who commit most criminal acts. Chicago Police Department committed to using the new science of social network analysis — the same tools that allow Silicon Valley to predict who you know and what you might like to buy — to detail the city’s “small world of murder,” as one researcher put it, and use that knowledge to stop the next bullet before it's fired.

They could go a step further and just keep these thugs in jail. Rates would plummet, all without the need for gun control.

The US leads the world in incarceration and we still have murder rates three times that of similar countries.

We must be doing something wrong

We keep making laws that make it illegal to do simple things.

 

[JWBooth]

Reporting them to the FBI as suicides?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The US leads the world in incarceration and we still have murder rates three times that of similar countries.

We must be doing something wrong

What is a similar country to America?
Canada? - not even close.
Europe? - politically and demographically very different.
What other countries have such high crime areas due to past social engineering?

Look....we have a murder rate three to six times that of nations we consider "civilized"

It is something we should be ashamed of, not something we should rationalize

We don't consider Greenland civilized?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

It's going to have to happen for a few years in a row for this year not to have been a fluke...

Bingo

 

[Godboy]

'Small world of murder': As homicides drop, Chicago police focus on social networks of gangs - U.S. News

Murders are down this year by almost half in his district and about 20 percent citywide, according to department data. It’s the equivalent of more than 80 lives “saved,” as the commander puts it, and the lowest Chicago murder toll in a half century.

The switch was thrown quietly in May 2012, hidden inside a 16-page directive, “Gang Violence Reduction Strategy,” and largely ignored amid a 60 percent rise in murders in the first quarter alone. With less than a year on the job, McCarthy had already disbanded two special task forces, roving teams that muscled neighborhoods into submission. Now he was betting on what he calls “the next phase of community policing in this world”: an emphasis not on the traditional “hot spots” for crime, but on the “hot people” who commit most criminal acts. Chicago Police Department committed to using the new science of social network analysis — the same tools that allow Silicon Valley to predict who you know and what you might like to buy — to detail the city’s “small world of murder,” as one researcher put it, and use that knowledge to stop the next bullet before it's fired.

They could go a step further and just keep these thugs in jail. Rates would plummet, all without the need for gun control.

The US leads the world in incarceration and we still have murder rates three times that of similar countries.

We must be doing something wrong

Have you ever considered that we are just better at catching criminals? What is the unsolved crime rate in those smaller countries? I bet its high. Our criminals meet justice, and you complain about it? What kind of sense does that make?

 

[whitehall]

Watch out when the government starts targeting people on the assumption that they might commit a crime.

 

[TooTall]

'Small world of murder': As homicides drop, Chicago police focus on social networks of gangs - U.S. News

Murders are down this year by almost half in his district and about 20 percent citywide, according to department data. It’s the equivalent of more than 80 lives “saved,” as the commander puts it, and the lowest Chicago murder toll in a half century.

The switch was thrown quietly in May 2012, hidden inside a 16-page directive, “Gang Violence Reduction Strategy,” and largely ignored amid a 60 percent rise in murders in the first quarter alone. With less than a year on the job, McCarthy had already disbanded two special task forces, roving teams that muscled neighborhoods into submission. Now he was betting on what he calls “the next phase of community policing in this world”: an emphasis not on the traditional “hot spots” for crime, but on the “hot people” who commit most criminal acts. Chicago Police Department committed to using the new science of social network analysis — the same tools that allow Silicon Valley to predict who you know and what you might like to buy — to detail the city’s “small world of murder,” as one researcher put it, and use that knowledge to stop the next bullet before it's fired.

Not exactly a brag factor IMO.

With just three weeks until we close out the year, the homicide ticker is stuck on 401. That’s still almost a hundred more than New York, a city with over three times Chicago’s population, has had to date but it’s also the largest year-over-year drop in a decade, police department data show.

In reality getting Chicago under 500 is a great feat and I am proud of that. Actually I see it dropping more in 2014. The reasons are simple: (1) We are looking at one of the coldest winters in years (when it's cold in Chicago, the violence literally remains on ice), (2) Rahm is going to ramp up this racial profiling campaighn which is working and HE SHOULD CONTINUE IT, fuck the PC nonsense, (3) Chicago has lost even more population again in 2013 and it won't stop in 2014. Less people less victims; and (4) Lastly, pop is going to be legalized, yep it's only medical marijuana, but if you want a prescription you will get a prescription (legalize pot and you will see another tick down)

Rahm will touted first time in a long time it has been under 400 in a year. Could it get lower than 350 or 300? Who knows.

300 in New York City with a population three times that of Chicago. I would say that if Chicago got down to 100 a year it would be a valid comparison. Legalizing pot would only result in more killings for the hard drug trade where the real money is.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Watch out when the government starts targeting people on the assumption that they might commit a crime.

Isn't that what the left claims profiling does? And don't they scream bloody murder when a certain sheriff in Arizona does it? In fact didn't they sic a Federal Judge on him to make him stop? And now they applaud it and use it in Chicago?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Good for them.

So it's not the guns after all.

Imagine that...it is due to gang activity in isolated high crime neighborhoods. Gee...what a surprise! And how did these neighborhoods get built? What color, primarily, are these neighborhoods comprised of? Blacks and Latinos you say...well...why are they so bunched up together?...one might say segregated even. No way that one of the more liberal cities in America is SEGREGATED????
And why is that? You think it has something to do with social programs???
Well....

End Segregation!

Just as 'white' children were once bussed to 'black' schools (is this still happening?) it is time to relocate 'white people' into 'black' districts. It could be done quite easily, with the liberal use of cattle prods, tazers, mace and, in the last resort, machine guns.

I'm sure that our lefty liberal colleagues would love it in Watts or wherever and would only need tazering five or six times before they agreed on the move.

IIRC, forced busing is still in effect in Boston.