Zone1 How Can We Prove That The Bible Is Accurate?

[RetiredGySgt]

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you test through prayer and meditation not through disbelief because you can't find a historical record to support the bible, but on that point, numerous things in the Bible ARE supported by the Historical records.

 

[Woodznutz]

the epitaph of the desert dweller ...

The conclusion of an astute observer.

 

[Woodznutz]

"Treat Others The Way You Wish To Be Treated"

A common courtesy that falls short of the true meaning.

 

[Woodznutz]

nothing in the 4th century christian bible is an inclusion written by jesus in their own hand nor did they compile an appendix of documents they used to write their book with physical copies preserved for verification. their bible is entirely a work of fiction interwoven with historical events of their choosing to lend credence to their claims.

What if the "original" documents were made up fantasies?

And, if you know the whereabouts of the true documents, please reveal their location so that we can peruse them.

 

[Woodznutz]

That is a brilliant idea!

If anybody could potentially inspire the nation of Turkey to open up and be more open of what could well be there on Mt. Ararat, it is President Donald J. Trump, [who tends to be respected by Islamic nations for his manner of approaching all subjects with a "Get'er done " attitude]!?

The "mountains" of Ararat is better rendered the "hills" or "hill country" of Ararat. From there descent to the plain would be easier and safer. It would also allow Noah and his sons, and later others, to cannibalize the ark for building materials and fuel.

The better definition also suggests a much lower flood level, which was all that was needed to accomplish the task.

 

[Ace Nova]

What if the "original" documents were made up fantasies?

And, if you know the whereabouts of the true documents, please reveal their location so that we can peruse them.

A Fragment from the Gospel of Mark - Dead Sea Scrolls - dated to circa 50 AD

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I've actually wondered this myself at times. How do we know that Jesus said what people said He said? Well, how many of your favorite songs do you know all of the lyrics to?

How is it possible for it to be accurate?

I’m an 80 year old lifelong atheist but even assuming that any of the gods are real, that particular book was written by human beings, and it has been rewritten countless times, translated, changed to reflect current agenda and then changed again so no, of course it’s not accurate.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

A Fragment from the Gospel of Mark - Dead Sea Scrolls - dated to circa 50 AD

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A wonderful but tiny fragment of history. Too small to prove much of anything.

 

[Ace Nova]

A wonderful but tiny fragment of history. Too small to prove much of anything.

Court cases have been won with substantially less evidence.

 

[BreezeWood]

A Fragment from the Gospel of Mark - Dead Sea Scrolls - dated to circa 50 AD

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they have yet to find a dead sea scroll that mentions jesus - they are jews who jesus himself repudiated ... why buried deep in recesses of a cave - where is the location of documents, the appendix for what is written in the 4th century christian bible.

 

[BreezeWood]

Court cases have been won with substantially less evidence.

link ...

 

[Ace Nova]

they have yet to find a dead sea scroll that mentions jesus - they are jews who jesus himself repudiated ... why buried deep in recesses of a cave - where is the location of documents, the appendix for what is written in the 4th century christian bible.

Almost every book of the New Testament is dated within the 1st and 2nd centuries BY HISTORIANS.

The Letters of Paul are believed to have been written between 45 -60 AD. (Again, by Historians)

Paul's letters (generally dated to circa 48–62 AD) are the earliest surviving sources on Jesus. However, Paul was a contemporary of Jesus and states that he personally knew and interacted with eyewitnesses of Jesus such as his most intimate disciples (Peter and John) and family members (his brother James) starting around 36 AD, and got some direct information from them. In the context of Christian sources, even if all other texts are ignored, the Pauline epistles can provide some information regarding Jesus. This information does not include all details found in the Gospels, but it does provide some significant details and refers to his existence as a person

Sources for the historicity of Jesus - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Not believing in Jesus of Nazareth as written in the New Testament is one thing - but to claim that nothing was written about Jesus in the New Testament until the 4th century is unequivocally FALSE and 95% of credible Historians would disagree with your claim.

 

[BreezeWood]

- but to claim that nothing was written about Jesus in the New Testament until the 4th century is unequivocally FALSE and 95% of credible Historians would disagree with your claim.

you are disingenuous in your comment - provide the archived documents used to write the christian bible over an entire century to be completed ... where is the 1st century liberation theology, self determination those people gave their lives for.

 

[Ace Nova]

you are disingenuous in your comment - provide the archived documents used to write the christian bible over an entire century to be completed ... where is the 1st century liberation theology, self determination those people gave their lives for.

Self determination and liberation is within the Books of the New Testament and even The Old Testament - It's like Jesus said in Luke 17:

The coming of the kingdom of God will not occur with signs that can be observed. 21 Nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is.’ For the kingdom of God is in your midst.”

Other non canonical historical sources wrote "The Kingdom of God is all around but people do not see it"

Self determination and liberation theology is a part of the Kingdom of God but people do not see it because they have not "opened up their hearts" to the messages written within the books.

It is evident in the Lord's prayer when we say, "On Earth at It is in Heaven" - repeated billions and billions of times over the course of the past 2000 years by billions of followers.

One must be willing to take "The leap of faith" and believe with all their hearts, minds, souls and strength - then they will be able to see and understand the divine messages written within the books.

Unfortunately, many non believers look at some of the autrocities committed by mankind and point to religion - to them I ask, what was mankind doing before religion/civilization was established?

 

[BreezeWood]

Self determination and liberation theology is a part of the Kingdom of God but people do not see it because they have not "opened up their hearts" to the messages written within the books.

the natural heavenly message those books go out of their way to obscure ...

again, you paraphrase what the 1st century repudiated - judaism: false commandments, religion of apartheid, hereditary idolatry, heavenly personifications that never occurred as moses abraham et al. they died for religious liberation theology against the false commandments, as for self determination the exact opposite written in the christian bible by the crucifiers of servitude and denial.

the autocratic dead sea scrolls will never include jesus - that's who they crucified, jesus is never one of them a jew.

kid yourself not the concluding scene of the 1st century events.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

the natural heavenly message those books go out of their way to obscure ...

again, you paraphrase what the 1st century repudiated - judaism: false commandments, religion of apartheid, hereditary idolatry, heavenly personifications that never occurred as moses abraham et al. they died for religious liberation theology against the false commandments, as for self determination the exact opposite written in the christian bible by the crucifiers of servitude and denial.

the autocratic dead sea scrolls will never include jesus - that's who they crucified, jesus is never one of them a jew.

kid yourself not the concluding scene of the 1st century events.

you are ill. Also, delusional. They have medication for that. You can't support any of your claims and know it. You pretend like you and a couple people that believe like you are the word with absolutely nothing to back you up.

 

[BreezeWood]

you are ill. Also, delusional. They have medication for that. You can't support any of your claims and know it. You pretend like you and a couple people that believe like you are the word with absolutely nothing to back you up.

again, you paraphrase what the 1st century repudiated - judaism: false commandments, religion of apartheid, hereditary idolatry, heavenly personifications that never occurred as moses and abraham et al. they died for religious liberation theology against the false commandments, as for self determination the exact opposite written in the christian bible by the crucifiers of servitude and denial.

- funny how the desert dwellers can read their bibles ... and nothing else.

 

[Ace Nova]

the natural heavenly message those books go out of their way to obscure ...

again, you paraphrase what the 1st century repudiated - judaism: false commandments, religion of apartheid, hereditary idolatry, heavenly personifications that never occurred as moses abraham et al. they died for religious liberation theology against the false commandments, as for self determination the exact opposite written in the christian bible by the crucifiers of servitude and denial.

the autocratic dead sea scrolls will never include jesus - that's who they crucified, jesus is never one of them a jew.

kid yourself not the concluding scene of the 1st century events.

Are you saying the Jesus you are referring to was not crucified?

 

[Ace Nova]

- funny how the desert dwellers can read their bibles ... and nothing else.

What do you recommend?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You can't prove magical nonsense to be true.

That's the problem with magic.

So get over it. All you will ever have, is, "Because I say so."