How Can Obama Create 8 Million Jobs With 20 Months To Go?

[skookerasbil]

Its more than that........Gallup said yesterday that the unemployment rate is well over 10%.

No pro-growth policies = no jobs. Its that simple..............but how about we come back in 20 months and check!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

I live in Florida and we sure hope alot of job creators come here!!! California and New York may as well be closed for business. Who has a few spare million to open a business in those two states?

I live in New York......people with successful businesses cant get out of here fast enough in the past 18 months........

 

[Gadawg73]

I appreciate your post.

But I disagree with you. The public sector can create jobs - in fact, a whole shit load of jobs. The US government is the largest employer in the world, I believe.

Whether that's a good thing, I don't know.

No, the public sector can only FUND jobs.
Never create them. Profit motive ONLY creates jobs.

We're getting into some philosophical shit here, which is not something I'm willing to go into.

If a new government agency is created staffed, those are jobs that did not exist, coming into existence. That, literally, is creating a job.

And that government agency is what the taxpayers demanded so they could be taxed more and increase the deficit?

Not in a million years.
I own 3 corporations. We create jobs.
Government needs to ELIMINATE JOBS.
Demand in the private sector ONLY creates jobs.
Now government policy can create jobs. Lower taxes creates jobs. No minimum wage creates jobs. No capital gains creates jobs.
Wars create jobs but only temporarily.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I live in Florida and we sure hope alot of job creators come here!!! California and New York may as well be closed for business. Who has a few spare million to open a business in those two states?

Just moved my business from NY to California.

Doing better than ever.

 

[EdSchultzIsFat]

Lets see how many people are unemployed come this summer,if its still around 14 Million, Obama may as well hand the presidency to the GOP Nominee in 2012 or face a Reagan Landslide!

 

[theDoctorisIn]

No, the public sector can only FUND jobs.
Never create them. Profit motive ONLY creates jobs.

We're getting into some philosophical shit here, which is not something I'm willing to go into.

If a new government agency is created staffed, those are jobs that did not exist, coming into existence. That, literally, is creating a job.

And that government agency is what the taxpayers demanded so they could be taxed more and increase the deficit?

Not in a million years.
I own 3 corporations. We create jobs.
Government needs to ELIMINATE JOBS.
Demand in the private sector ONLY creates jobs.
Now government policy can create jobs. Lower taxes creates jobs. No minimum wage creates jobs. No capital gains creates jobs.
Wars create jobs but only temporarily.

I'm not arguing that it's sound policy. The fact of the matter is that all of the most educated economists in the world disagree on this should imply that we don't know what the end result is.

All my post said was, in a very literal sense, the government can and does create jobs, which do stimulate the economy.

 

[Tyler_Westyn]

God I Hope Paul Ryan Is The VP in 2012! thats like adding insult to injury! even Dems have much respect for Paul Ryan.

 

[Avorysuds]

With all the talk about how there is no one out there that can beat Obama,is the media forgetting that most Americans vote according to their bank accounts and well being? If there are really 15 million unemployed Americans out there,why would they vote for the President who promised to put them back to work? Even if 5 Million find work by the fall of 2012,that still leaves 10 Million unemployed Americans who would of lost patience by then. And if Gas is still over $3.00 a gallon in 2012 with High Food Prices,will the average American still vote for Obama?

Eventually, you guys are going to have to make up your mind.

Either "The President can't create jobs, only the private sector can", or "Obama won't get re-elected because he didn't create jobs".

Which one is it?

It's very very very very very very very simple, so try and pay attention...

The president can't create jobs but he can put through policy that can either help build an atmosphere for the privet sector to make jobs or make an atmosphere that destroys privet sector growth.

Now Obama, being much like Bush is seeing no job growth with an economy that has been floated on barrowed money. If Obama were to stop giving money out to people (stimulus/unemployment/bailouts) we would see a huge and quick collapse in the economy. A collapse without Government aid is not a product of Government being successful with bailouts, stimulus and unemployment, it's a sign that nothing is really getting better and without the aid you would see the economy for what it is, shit.

See, ******* so simple a 5 year old could understand it.

 

[EdSchultzIsFat]

actually a Thune/Ryan ticket sounds great to me!

 

[Avorysuds]

I appreciate your post.

But I disagree with you. The public sector can create jobs - in fact, a whole shit load of jobs. The US government is the largest employer in the world, I believe.

Whether that's a good thing, I don't know.

No, the public sector can only FUND jobs.
Never create them. Profit motive ONLY creates jobs.

We're getting into some philosophical shit here, which is not something I'm willing to go into.

If a new government agency is created staffed, those are jobs that did not exist, coming into existence. That, literally, is creating a job.

No no... You're wrong. A public job cost us money through taxes, meaning the more public jobs are *created* the less privet sector jobs there can be as taxes must go up to compensate creating less revenue in the privet sector.

Now, look at it like this. If Government could create jobs then why not employee everyone and call it 100% employment? Because the Government wouldn't be able to sustain itself. So Government jobs are at the expense of privet sector jobs and growth.

 

[Tyler_Westyn]

well I just did the math, Obama needs to create about 14,15,000 jobs a day to bring the level down to about 6%(and thats just a ball park estimate based on the 400,000 jobs a month needed)

 

[skookerasbil]

We're getting into some philosophical shit here, which is not something I'm willing to go into.

If a new government agency is created staffed, those are jobs that did not exist, coming into existence. That, literally, is creating a job.

And that government agency is what the taxpayers demanded so they could be taxed more and increase the deficit?

Not in a million years.
I own 3 corporations. We create jobs.
Government needs to ELIMINATE JOBS.
Demand in the private sector ONLY creates jobs.
Now government policy can create jobs. Lower taxes creates jobs. No minimum wage creates jobs. No capital gains creates jobs.
Wars create jobs but only temporarily.

I'm not arguing that it's sound policy. The fact of the matter is that all of the most educated economists in the world disagree on this should imply that we don't know what the end result is.

All my post said was, in a very literal sense, the government can and does create jobs, which do stimulate the economy.

Its never worked in the history of the world s0n...........not to any degree that is promised by its supporters. Anybody who says the stimulus of 2009 was successful is a k00k.

 

[Avorysuds]

We're getting into some philosophical shit here, which is not something I'm willing to go into.

If a new government agency is created staffed, those are jobs that did not exist, coming into existence. That, literally, is creating a job.

And that government agency is what the taxpayers demanded so they could be taxed more and increase the deficit?

Not in a million years.
I own 3 corporations. We create jobs.
Government needs to ELIMINATE JOBS.
Demand in the private sector ONLY creates jobs.
Now government policy can create jobs. Lower taxes creates jobs. No minimum wage creates jobs. No capital gains creates jobs.
Wars create jobs but only temporarily.

I'm not arguing that it's sound policy. The fact of the matter is that all of the most educated economists in the world disagree on this should imply that we don't know what the end result is.

All my post said was, in a very literal sense, the government can and does create jobs, which do stimulate the economy.

And in the most literal sense you are wrong. It creates jobs by destroying others, then it can't afford to pay it's employees... Much like we see today.

 

[EdSchultzIsFat]

14,000 jobs a day? that comes out to around 500 jobs an hour, thats alot more pace than Reagan put out. Its not gonna happen!!! we dont even have enough Government Staffers to keep up with that pace,,,and many of them are too busy watching porn anyway.

 

[rightwinger]

it would be a surprise if Obama carrys Cally and New York in 2012 assuming their economy is still in the tank by the election. Fine,they can give Obama the votes,I dont think Obama will take Penn,Ohio and Florida next time around.

Wanna bet?

 

[TacomaJPP]

With all the talk about how there is no one out there that can beat Obama,is the media forgetting that most Americans vote according to their bank accounts and well being? If there are really 15 million unemployed Americans out there,why would they vote for the President who promised to put them back to work? Even if 5 Million find work by the fall of 2012,that still leaves 10 Million unemployed Americans who would of lost patience by then. And if Gas is still over $3.00 a gallon in 2012 with High Food Prices,will the average American still vote for Obama?

Eventually, you guys are going to have to make up your mind.

Either "The President can't create jobs, only the private sector can", or "Obama won't get re-elected because he didn't create jobs".

Which one is it?

I hate to poop on your parade but let's leave the simple-minded quips to the comedians...let's ponder this:

1) The government can create jobs. It's easy, they just make themselves bigger, however that costs taxpayer dollars of which we don't have a lot of anymore. So, that solution is a self-defeating effort.

2) Everyone refers to "Obama creating jobs" by passing stupid stimulus bills, bailouts, shovel-ready shi....jobs, etc. However, again that doesn't work. The real jobs needed are in the private sector. How do we do that? Simple:

Cut taxes on individuals and companies. Institute trade reciprocity wherein whatever tariffs or restrictions are imposed on us, we impose equally to imposing countries. Our government (Obama and Congress) can make it advantageous for businesses to want to do business here. That's where he needs to focus....not spending more money that we don't have.

It's simple....unfortunately so is his mind.

 

[Avorysuds]

with all the talk about how there is no one out there that can beat obama,is the media forgetting that most americans vote according to their bank accounts and well being? If there are really 15 million unemployed americans out there,why would they vote for the president who promised to put them back to work? Even if 5 million find work by the fall of 2012,that still leaves 10 million unemployed americans who would of lost patience by then. And if gas is still over $3.00 a gallon in 2012 with high food prices,will the average american still vote for obama?

eventually, you guys are going to have to make up your mind.

Either "the president can't create jobs, only the private sector can", or "obama won't get re-elected because he didn't create jobs".

Which one is it?

i hate to poop on your parade but let's leave the simple-minded quips to the comedians...let's ponder this:

1) the government can create jobs. It's easy, they just make themselves bigger, however that costs taxpayer dollars of which we don't have a lot of anymore. So, that solution is a self-defeating effort.

2) everyone refers to "obama creating jobs" by passing stupid stimulus bills, bailouts, shovel-ready shi....jobs, etc. However, again that doesn't work. The real jobs needed are in the private sector. How do we do that? Simple:

Cut taxes on individuals and companies. Institute trade reciprocity wherein whatever tariffs or restrictions are imposed on us, we impose equally to imposing countries. Our government (obama and congress) can make it advantageous for businesses to want to do business here. That's where he needs to focus....not spending more money that we don't have.

It's simple....unfortunately so is his mind.

qft

 

[Avorysuds]

it would be a surprise if Obama carrys Cally and New York in 2012 assuming their economy is still in the tank by the election. Fine,they can give Obama the votes,I dont think Obama will take Penn,Ohio and Florida next time around.

Wanna bet?

Lol, "wana bet." So tuff!

 

[Tyler_Westyn]

I just dont see Uboma winning Ohio and Indiana this time!

 

[EdSchultzIsFat]

and Wisconsin, the numbers just arent there, Obama has also lost Virginia!