HOW can Atheists say there is no God after...

[HaShev]

HOW can Atheists say there is no God after...

1) THE Source and power of life not just removed a cancerous destructive force, but also it set forth a stampede during it's funeral procession for that Iranian general

Not to mention what must logically be the fact of setting the holocaust in motion. Taken together, it's not possible to deny the Noodly One's grace.

The Judaic concept of God is not a figure or form, which your basis needs to be accurate a criticsm.
That act you speak is the opposite Essense we deem God. It was antisemitism created by the anti Judaic Roman one world religion centered around a created image of a man/ idol called Jesus used to sell "the fake" good news and used to Demonize the Jews.
Everything the Nazis did was emulating the church synods, so blaming the faith of the victims for the acts of their adversary/opposition is as stupid as Iran/MSM/Dem politicians blaming the US for taking out Qasem Soleimani.
Nice try deflecting blame for not obeying simple laws which I've discussed in previous posts like the one called "we could have avoided attrocities throughout history"

That you would start a thread in the Religion and ‘Ethics’ forum celebrating the unprovoked killing of a human being and the start of a war that could take the lives of thousands confirms that religion is very much devoid of ethics and that theists are capable of great evil justified by the ‘god’ they created.

So far the act of taking out The snot licker prevented the deaths he intended before stopped, but caused 0 retalitory deaths, making TRUMPS move at this point a positive and you and your party's position a huge negative and a cause for where we are now with you complaining basically about your party's kicking the can down the Road so you can displace blame.
And this negative you carry does not factor in Bill Clinton not acting on killing Bin Laden in 1998 which we now see lead to the 911 catastrophe in 2001.
=you lose your argument and prove you think your party is more important then the country and humanity in general.
=Checkmate!

 

[cnm]

You didn't answer. Is YHWH considered to be omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent? A yes or a no will do.

 

[cnm]

You believe lifes source and power is Evolution

You must be a believer, telling me what I believe, whereas I ask you what you believe.

 

[HaShev]

You didn't answer. Is YHWH considered to be omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent? A yes or a no will do.

I did answer, once again you don't see what I'm saying due to using Christian goggles(precepts) tainting how you perceive what I'm saying.
Once again: our concept is God is not a man nor form. Essences can be Omni. Non Forms don't have names they have descriptions thus many descriptions deems many names of that source power of life-Yhwh being one of many words describing-defining what your like refuse to define for whatever reason.
THE NAME (Essence) IS IN THE NAME OF THE CITY so ask
yourself why you used the word YHWH and not Shalem?
Because Christianity leads you to use figures and that name? That makes me right, that you are as much a victim of Christianity as it's followers.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

That you would start a thread in the Religion and ‘Ethics’ forum celebrating the unprovoked killing of a human being

What color is the sky in your world?

Unprovoked killing of a human being?

 

[cnm]

Essences can be Omni.

Is the source and power of life that removed Suleimani omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient?

 

[cnm]

Once again: our concept is God is not a man nor form. Essences can be Omni.

Why do you insist I must consider god must be a man or form in order to have attributes? That is your delusion, not mine. Are you condemned to see things only through your lenses?

 

[HaShev]

Once again: our concept is God is not a man nor form. Essences can be Omni.

Why do you insist I must consider god must be a man or form in order to have attributes? That is your delusion, not mine. Are you condemned to see things only through your lenses?

Now you are deflecting.
-first chapter of Psychology 101

 

[shimon]

1) THE Source and power of life not just removed a cancerous destructive force, but also it set forth a stampede during it's funeral procession for that Iranian general
Qassem Soleimani, a thrust that killed 35 people and injuring 48 others who supported that violent anti stability destructive nature projected by that virus of a man.
2)Qasem Soleimani's last video was of him wiping his nose with his hand then a minute later putting it to his mouth as if to taste it.
*(am I the only one who noticed that?)
And that is the footage the globe sees over and over even by his supporters at NBC,
CNN, and MSNBC.
His last act will be forever known as a snot eater, just like Swallwell is for his fart heard around the world.

There is an irony here that most people missed for this very sNAUGHTY man... If you live by the sword you shall die by the sword or an eye for an eye... In this case since he set up all those missile factories all over the Middle East to torment millions of people he was killed by a missile or Qassem went Bam Bam by a Qassem of another name and he was “Trumped” in his further efforts to do more harm in the future...This man could have been taken out years earlier but was not because no one had the nerve or fortitude to do it and left it for someone else to do because the can is always easier to kick down the road for someone else to look after it...

 

[Syriusly]

Every good atheist knows that the universe caused itself to come into existence and that life came about as a result of primordial soup of rocks and minerals being struck by lightning which created a single cell amoeba which branched out into all of the life that exists today.

Just like every good believer in any god believes that the world was blinked into existence over 7 days and that the first woman was created from a man's rib.

 

[HaShev]

Every good atheist knows that the universe caused itself to come into existence and that life came about as a result of primordial soup of rocks and minerals being struck by lightning which created a single cell amoeba which branched out into all of the life that exists today.

Just like every good believer in any god believes that the world was blinked into existence over 7 days and that the first woman was created from a man's rib.

That's a missinterpretation by people not knowing terms used in the age of the writings.
Days=Ages
source:
The Ages of The World
Scroll 4Q180-181
reveals Days=Ages

The Sheva(7) Ages(days)
Stages of Processions:
1)Dinosaur age, leaving us with Fossil Fuel to help out latter stages needing fuel for Industrial age and Travel for Infrastructure.
2)then evolving man
Hunter / Gatherers - Prior to 5,000 BC (about a million years)
3)Agricultural Age: - 5,000 BC to 500 BC (about 5,000 years)This was the age of rapid spread of civilization to all corners of theearth.
4) Age of Trade: - 500 BC to 1730 AD (about 2,000 years)This was the age of rapid spread of wealth and knowledge. From thisage came technology, 'modern' concepts of math, scientific method,medicine, warfare.
5)Industrial Age: 1730 AD - 1950 AD (about 200 years) The rise and fall of great Captains of Industry, railroads, shipping,air transport, conquering of physical frontiers, modern military warmachines, major empires rise and fall on a global scale: Trade still very important, but now, seen as a means to delivery the greatest number of goods to the greatest number of people for thegreatest profit. Agriculture still very important, but not seen as theprimary engine of the economy... Hunter gatherers almost disappearing.
6) Information Age: 1950 to 1999 (about 50 years) Witness the rise of abandoned old industrial buildings by the rives of the major cities. Industry, Trade, Agriculture are still in the foundation of our economy, but are dominated by the frenetic application of information systems technologies to make these products better, cheaper and deliver them more effectively. Also leads to networking ideas and next age of molecular manifacturing.
7)The Day of rest is the Messianic Age with molecular manufacturing and biotech where everything progressed into this promise fulfilled in perfection.
Now go back to other riddles where Jonah (Said to represent Israel) spends 3days(ages) in the belly of the whale (Rome swallowed Israel).
Remember:in ancient slang Rome is called Seas and it's Army called Ships, so they would not know they were being spoken of during revolts. Slang used in the Jonah story refer to the Ship (Roman army) in the Sea(Rome).
Then there is the mythology of Baal resurrecting in 3 days.
Baal is the father the church never mentions the name,
Jesus claims to be Baal's son the morning star in mythology in Rev 22:16.
They are father & son as one (in the same mythology)=same exact prexisting 3 day resurrection story, even the circle sun cross is a prexisting Baal cross, the figure in the NT is hanged on a tree-not a cross.
Therefore the mythology of 3 days are 3 ages Baal resurrects as his new image called Jesus (aka the morning star).
Baal and Asherah (Mother Mary) goes back to 5000 or more BC where the age(day)
1) is Hunter / Gatherers - then the next age (day)
2) theAgricultural Age: - 5,000 BC to 500 BC This was the age of rapid spread of civilization to all corners of the earth.
Then the
3rd day(age) Age of Trade: he Baal resurrected as the Jesus mythology.

We know Adam and Eve aren't literal first inhabitants, they are symbols in a story representing something.
You won't see that message if you don't have the key, that being understanding where the message comes from and it's purpose. You all see the messages coming from the past to warn the future forgeting Heaven(in Hebrew
"olam habah" means "world to come") is the perfected kingdom to come thus 'Future' which is warning the past. You don't notice these things because you think of time in a linear sense when the message is from the non linear capability advanced future. You were given clues when the OT said in Isaiah, the begining is at the end. Now read Genesis representing warnings to man from those who know where we mess up (world to come).
In the Zohar Lilith the first woman is equated as Israel. Lilith left man when man refused her equality and she refused his "missionary" position.
Adam (meaning man) was then given a partner which came out of his rib (not out of God's creation) as soon as she saw Eve (adam-man's second bride=the church)clinging to his side she (Lilith- the Night Spector) fled from man .
Lilith thus was cast into the depths of the sea (Rome), where she abode until the time that Adam and his wife (the church) sinned. Then the Holy One, brought her out from the depth of the sea (Rome) and gave her power over all those children by "bringing back" the first bride (Israel).
Remember it was Eve(the church) who was convinced by the fallen false prophet Jesus =serpent to partake of his fruit(teachings) claiming to believe in his tree (cross) and you'll be eternal(in death not life).
Eve(church) talked Adam (man) to partake on this serpents(Jesus) teachings both good and evil mixed in a way unrecognizable to what was benefit and what was harmful and thus they did die from partaking this fruit.
The word regarding naked is spelled in Hebrew in the same manner as being unveiled(exposed) of deceptions, therefore they covered their deceptions as in covering up the naked truth.

 

[HaShev]

1) THE Source and power of life not just removed a cancerous destructive force, but also it set forth a stampede during it's funeral procession for that Iranian general
Qassem Soleimani, a thrust that killed 35 people and injuring 48 others who supported that violent anti stability destructive nature projected by that virus of a man.
2)Qasem Soleimani's last video was of him wiping his nose with his hand then a minute later putting it to his mouth as if to taste it.
*(am I the only one who noticed that?)
And that is the footage the globe sees over and over even by his supporters at NBC,
CNN, and MSNBC.
His last act will be forever known as a snot eater, just like Swallwell is for his fart heard around the world.

There is an irony here that most people missed for this very sNAUGHTY man... If you live by the sword you shall die by the sword or an eye for an eye... In this case since he set up all those missile factories all over the Middle East to torment millions of people he was killed by a missile or Qassem went Bam Bam by a Qassem of another name and he was “Trumped” in his further efforts to do more harm in the future...This man could have been taken out years earlier but was not because no one had the nerve or fortitude to do it and left it for someone else to do because the can is always easier to kick down the road for someone else to look after it...

They forget the past mistakes, thus never learn, forever repeating them. Clinton himself regretted not taking out Bin Laden in 1998 which would have prevented 9/11 in 2001, thus prevented Afghan, Iraq, rise of Isis, and other issues people complain about these days. Way to go Bill!
And so these arm chair quarterbacks want to repeat that mistake by telling us we should not remove the cancer even though that complacent act helps exacerbate that spread of cancer.

 

[shimon]

1) THE Source and power of life not just removed a cancerous destructive force, but also it set forth a stampede during it's funeral procession for that Iranian general
Qassem Soleimani, a thrust that killed 35 people and injuring 48 others who supported that violent anti stability destructive nature projected by that virus of a man.
2)Qasem Soleimani's last video was of him wiping his nose with his hand then a minute later putting it to his mouth as if to taste it.
*(am I the only one who noticed that?)
And that is the footage the globe sees over and over even by his supporters at NBC,
CNN, and MSNBC.
His last act will be forever known as a snot eater, just like Swallwell is for his fart heard around the world.

There is an irony here that most people missed for this very sNAUGHTY man... If you live by the sword you shall die by the sword or an eye for an eye... In this case since he set up all those missile factories all over the Middle East to torment millions of people he was killed by a missile or Qassem went Bam Bam by a Qassem of another name and he was “Trumped” in his further efforts to do more harm in the future...This man could have been taken out years earlier but was not because no one had the nerve or fortitude to do it and left it for someone else to do because the can is always easier to kick down the road for someone else to look after it...

They forget the past mistakes, thus never learn, forever repeating them. Clinton himself regretted not taking out Bin Laden in 1998 which would have prevented 9/11 in 2001, thus prevented Afghan, Iraq, rise of Isis, and other issues people complain about these days. Way to go Bill!
And so these arm chair quarterbacks want to repeat that mistake by telling us we should not remove the cancer even though that complacent act helps exacerbate that spread of cancer.

It is humorous listening to some of the commentary...What most people don’t get is the definition of insanity is to keep trying the same thing over and over expecting a different result...lol...Trump is not afraid to try a new tact to find a new way to overcome the people who are insane or lazy or don’t really care for others by can kicking their problems forward to the next guy...They are all getting worked up over what he did not realizing it was the correct thing to do...That being said I understand with the exception of the Palestinians and a few others most of the Sunni arabs are rejoicing in this guys demise because of all terrible things he did to them..The western media and elites are always behind the times and just don’t get it or they are insane too and don’t want change or the status quo ( Case in point the election win of Trump in 2016.. People were tired of the insanity of the same old results over and over with nothing getting done). Now the interesting thing is the Israelis have made another breakthrough in missile defence involving lasers which they will implement in the coming months or years which will make these missiles completely obsolete so the Satanist( countries that are adversarial) like Iran, Korea etc etc will no longer be able to menace others who are just trying to enjoy their lives without the constant threat of attack from the air...If we as a species do not progress and adapt and overcome then we are doomed to keep repeating our mistakes and will be deemed insane. The lessons of the past errors should be learned from and not repeated...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Every good atheist knows that the universe caused itself to come into existence and that life came about as a result of primordial soup of rocks and minerals being struck by lightning which created a single cell amoeba which branched out into all of the life that exists today.

What an idiotic post. Not one atheist or scientist believes a lightning strike created an amoeba. Grow up.

 

[Syriusly]

Every good atheist knows that the universe caused itself to come into existence and that life came about as a result of primordial soup of rocks and minerals being struck by lightning which created a single cell amoeba which branched out into all of the life that exists today.

Just like every good believer in any god believes that the world was blinked into existence over 7 days and that the first woman was created from a man's rib.

That's a missinterpretation by people not knowing terms used in the age of the writings.
Days=Ages
source:
The Ages of The World
Scroll 4Q180-181
reveals Days=Ages

The Sheva(7) Ages(days)
Stages of Processions:
1)Dinosaur age, leaving us with Fossil Fuel to help out latter stages needing fuel for Industrial age and Travel for Infrastructure.
2)then evolving man
Hunter / Gatherers - Prior to 5,000 BC (about a million years)
3)Agricultural Age: - 5,000 BC to 500 BC (about 5,000 years)This was the age of rapid spread of civilization to all corners of theearth.
4) Age of Trade: - 500 BC to 1730 AD (about 2,000 years)This was the age of rapid spread of wealth and knowledge. From thisage came technology, 'modern' concepts of math, scientific method,medicine, warfare.
5)Industrial Age: 1730 AD - 1950 AD (about 200 years) The rise and fall of great Captains of Industry, railroads, shipping,air transport, conquering of physical frontiers, modern military warmachines, major empires rise and fall on a global scale: Trade still very important, but now, seen as a means to delivery the greatest number of goods to the greatest number of people for thegreatest profit. Agriculture still very important, but not seen as theprimary engine of the economy... Hunter gatherers almost disappearing.
6) Information Age: 1950 to 1999 (about 50 years) Witness the rise of abandoned old industrial buildings by the rives of the major cities. Industry, Trade, Agriculture are still in the foundation of our economy, but are dominated by the frenetic application of information systems technologies to make these products better, cheaper and deliver them more effectively. Also leads to networking ideas and next age of molecular manifacturing.
7)The Day of rest is the Messianic Age with molecular manufacturing and biotech where everything progressed into this promise fulfilled in perfection.
Now go back to other riddles where Jonah (Said to represent Israel) spends 3days(ages) in the belly of the whale (Rome swallowed Israel).
Remember:in ancient slang Rome is called Seas and it's Army called Ships, so they would not know they were being spoken of during revolts. Slang used in the Jonah story refer to the Ship (Roman army) in the Sea(Rome).
Then there is the mythology of Baal resurrecting in 3 days.
Baal is the father the church never mentions the name,
Jesus claims to be Baal's son the morning star in mythology in Rev 22:16.
They are father & son as one (in the same mythology)=same exact prexisting 3 day resurrection story, even the circle sun cross is a prexisting Baal cross, the figure in the NT is hanged on a tree-not a cross.
Therefore the mythology of 3 days are 3 ages Baal resurrects as his new image called Jesus (aka the morning star).
Baal and Asherah (Mother Mary) goes back to 5000 or more BC where the age(day)
1) is Hunter / Gatherers - then the next age (day)
2) theAgricultural Age: - 5,000 BC to 500 BC This was the age of rapid spread of civilization to all corners of the earth.
Then the
3rd day(age) Age of Trade: he Baal resurrected as the Jesus mythology.

We know Adam and Eve aren't literal first inhabitants, they are symbols in a story representing something.
You won't see that message if you don't have the key, that being understanding where the message comes from and it's purpose. You all see the messages coming from the past to warn the future forgeting Heaven(in Hebrew
"olam habah" means "world to come") is the perfected kingdom to come thus 'Future' which is warning the past. You don't notice these things because you think of time in a linear sense when the message is from the non linear capability advanced future. You were given clues when the OT said in Isaiah, the begining is at the end. Now read Genesis representing warnings to man from those who know where we mess up (world to come).
In the Zohar Lilith the first woman is equated as Israel. Lilith left man when man refused her equality and she refused his "missionary" position.
Adam (meaning man) was then given a partner which came out of his rib (not out of God's creation) as soon as she saw Eve (adam-man's second bride=the church)clinging to his side she (Lilith- the Night Spector) fled from man .
Lilith thus was cast into the depths of the sea (Rome), where she abode until the time that Adam and his wife (the church) sinned. Then the Holy One, brought her out from the depth of the sea (Rome) and gave her power over all those children by "bringing back" the first bride (Israel).
Remember it was Eve(the church) who was convinced by the fallen false prophet Jesus =serpent to partake of his fruit(teachings) claiming to believe in his tree (cross) and you'll be eternal(in death not life).
Eve(church) talked Adam (man) to partake on this serpents(Jesus) teachings both good and evil mixed in a way unrecognizable to what was benefit and what was harmful and thus they did die from partaking this fruit.
The word regarding naked is spelled in Hebrew in the same manner as being unveiled(exposed) of deceptions, therefore they covered their deceptions as in covering up the naked truth.

There are those believers who believe that the words in the Bible are completely literal- and insist on it here. You prefer to believe that the Bible is true- but metaphorical.

I have seen no evidence that the Bible is 'true' as in divine. I have absolutely no reason to believe in fairy tales.

 

[HaShev]

Every good atheist knows that the universe caused itself to come into existence and that life came about as a result of primordial soup of rocks and minerals being struck by lightning which created a single cell amoeba which branched out into all of the life that exists today.

Just like every good believer in any god believes that the world was blinked into existence over 7 days and that the first woman was created from a man's rib.

That's a missinterpretation by people not knowing terms used in the age of the writings.
Days=Ages
source:
The Ages of The World
Scroll 4Q180-181
reveals Days=Ages

The Sheva(7) Ages(days)
Stages of Processions:
1)Dinosaur age, leaving us with Fossil Fuel to help out latter stages needing fuel for Industrial age and Travel for Infrastructure.
2)then evolving man
Hunter / Gatherers - Prior to 5,000 BC (about a million years)
3)Agricultural Age: - 5,000 BC to 500 BC (about 5,000 years)This was the age of rapid spread of civilization to all corners of theearth.
4) Age of Trade: - 500 BC to 1730 AD (about 2,000 years)This was the age of rapid spread of wealth and knowledge. From thisage came technology, 'modern' concepts of math, scientific method,medicine, warfare.
5)Industrial Age: 1730 AD - 1950 AD (about 200 years) The rise and fall of great Captains of Industry, railroads, shipping,air transport, conquering of physical frontiers, modern military warmachines, major empires rise and fall on a global scale: Trade still very important, but now, seen as a means to delivery the greatest number of goods to the greatest number of people for thegreatest profit. Agriculture still very important, but not seen as theprimary engine of the economy... Hunter gatherers almost disappearing.
6) Information Age: 1950 to 1999 (about 50 years) Witness the rise of abandoned old industrial buildings by the rives of the major cities. Industry, Trade, Agriculture are still in the foundation of our economy, but are dominated by the frenetic application of information systems technologies to make these products better, cheaper and deliver them more effectively. Also leads to networking ideas and next age of molecular manifacturing.
7)The Day of rest is the Messianic Age with molecular manufacturing and biotech where everything progressed into this promise fulfilled in perfection.
Now go back to other riddles where Jonah (Said to represent Israel) spends 3days(ages) in the belly of the whale (Rome swallowed Israel).
Remember:in ancient slang Rome is called Seas and it's Army called Ships, so they would not know they were being spoken of during revolts. Slang used in the Jonah story refer to the Ship (Roman army) in the Sea(Rome).
Then there is the mythology of Baal resurrecting in 3 days.
Baal is the father the church never mentions the name,
Jesus claims to be Baal's son the morning star in mythology in Rev 22:16.
They are father & son as one (in the same mythology)=same exact prexisting 3 day resurrection story, even the circle sun cross is a prexisting Baal cross, the figure in the NT is hanged on a tree-not a cross.
Therefore the mythology of 3 days are 3 ages Baal resurrects as his new image called Jesus (aka the morning star).
Baal and Asherah (Mother Mary) goes back to 5000 or more BC where the age(day)
1) is Hunter / Gatherers - then the next age (day)
2) theAgricultural Age: - 5,000 BC to 500 BC This was the age of rapid spread of civilization to all corners of the earth.
Then the
3rd day(age) Age of Trade: he Baal resurrected as the Jesus mythology.

We know Adam and Eve aren't literal first inhabitants, they are symbols in a story representing something.
You won't see that message if you don't have the key, that being understanding where the message comes from and it's purpose. You all see the messages coming from the past to warn the future forgeting Heaven(in Hebrew
"olam habah" means "world to come") is the perfected kingdom to come thus 'Future' which is warning the past. You don't notice these things because you think of time in a linear sense when the message is from the non linear capability advanced future. You were given clues when the OT said in Isaiah, the begining is at the end. Now read Genesis representing warnings to man from those who know where we mess up (world to come).
In the Zohar Lilith the first woman is equated as Israel. Lilith left man when man refused her equality and she refused his "missionary" position.
Adam (meaning man) was then given a partner which came out of his rib (not out of God's creation) as soon as she saw Eve (adam-man's second bride=the church)clinging to his side she (Lilith- the Night Spector) fled from man .
Lilith thus was cast into the depths of the sea (Rome), where she abode until the time that Adam and his wife (the church) sinned. Then the Holy One, brought her out from the depth of the sea (Rome) and gave her power over all those children by "bringing back" the first bride (Israel).
Remember it was Eve(the church) who was convinced by the fallen false prophet Jesus =serpent to partake of his fruit(teachings) claiming to believe in his tree (cross) and you'll be eternal(in death not life).
Eve(church) talked Adam (man) to partake on this serpents(Jesus) teachings both good and evil mixed in a way unrecognizable to what was benefit and what was harmful and thus they did die from partaking this fruit.
The word regarding naked is spelled in Hebrew in the same manner as being unveiled(exposed) of deceptions, therefore they covered their deceptions as in covering up the naked truth.

There are those believers who believe that the words in the Bible are completely literal- and insist on it here. You prefer to believe that the Bible is true- but metaphorical.

I have seen no evidence that the Bible is 'true' as in divine. I have absolutely no reason to believe in fairy tales.

In Judaism the sages reflect and express the Essence of Life by writing history and storys to learn resemblances through for both future historical reference to right vs wrong paths and repeat human behavior and where it leads, thus capturing all the dirty laundry in history to learn and progress from.
Humanity repeats it's mistakes and behaviors, because it many times fails to take this approach to repair itself and evolve. Then we have the laws. Look no further then San Francisco literally and figurative poo-pooing on boundries and laws and where that life without laws creates for them=lawlessness, a society where they themselves are not protected by the stability of lawfulness.

 

[Blackrook]

HaShev, you are probably one of the worst representative for the Jews that anyone could come up with if they were having anti-Semitic fantasies about the Jews.