House Passes 1.1 Trillion With 5,000 Earmarks? Say it Ain't So

[Vast LWC]

They can't. They MEAN to make it larger, and speed the clock up...all for their power.

Ahh, yes, this would be the completely nonsensical Glenn Beck "Drive up the debt to increase the power of the Executive" conspiracy.

Yeah, I love how Beck "Connected the dots" in that episode by having his guest, a Fox Business Channel host, declare it was so.

LOL.

 

[Vast LWC]

Going from 8,292 to 10,437 is a 25% increase.

That's nice, but where's the jobs??????????????????

Being LOST to others or being Obliterated altogether...

Talking point # 20482

You don't really have much of your own stuff, do you T?

 

[uscitizen]

I think I am beginning to see a pattern on some posters on here.

 

[Vast LWC]

I think I am beginning to see a pattern on some posters on here.

There are a few that spit out the same old talking points.

There are a couple of websites devoted to giving them the talking points to post.

You can grab most of them off of Rush Limbaugh's site, or NewsMax.com, but there are more specific places, like Townhall.com. You need to sign up for them though.

Here's an example from Townhall.com:

Congress Needs a Little Fiscal Discipline
Cesar Conda: Congress is preparing to raise the Federal debt ceiling by a whopping $1.8 trillion...
http://www.townhall.com/

 

[uscitizen]

I think I am beginning to see a pattern on some posters on here.

There are a few that spit out the same old talking points.

There are a couple of websites devoted to giving them the talking points to post.

You can grab most of them off of Rush Limbaugh's site, TownHall.com, or NewsMax.com, but there are more specific places, you need to sign up for them though.

I am on a couple of right wing viral emails lists. I have heard most of this before they post it. Pretty sad really.

 

[The T]

That's nice, but where's the jobs??????????????????

Being LOST to others or being Obliterated altogether...

Talking point # 20482

You don't really have much of your own stuff, do you T?

Just as MUCH as *YOU DO* Mother Fucker*

 

[The T]

That's nice, but where's the jobs??????????????????

Being LOST to others or being Obliterated altogether...

Talking point # 20482

You don't really have much of your own stuff, do you T?

YOU don't have anything but what YOU glean fron the Internet asshole.STOP pretending to be smarter than what you actually are.

You may DROP the pretense assclown.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan? That figures. Cut the military spending in half and use the money to teach the people which language? Farsi or Chinese maybe?

Here are the actual Military spending figures as of 2004 including the top 3 spenders:

World Wide Military Expenditures

World Total $1100 billion
Rest-of-World [all but USA] $500 billion

United States $623 billion
China $65 billion
Russia $50 billion

Source: World Wide Military Expenditures

If we cut the military budget in half, we'd still be spending five times as much as our closest competitor, the Chinese.

Now, are you trying to say that the US is inferior in military technology, in that it takes them 10 times as much money to create as much military might as the Chinese?

Because I think America can do better than that.

We spend more because we have better training and equipment. Not to mention the highest paid soldiers in the world. I don't know how much the Chinese private gets paid but I'd bet you couldn't live on it. But you go ahead and cut our military by half,again, because that has already been done once since the end of the cold war. But see who attacks us when you have done that. As long as I'm Alive I'll fight to keep a strong military thank you.

 

[Vast LWC]

YOU don't have anything but what YOU glean fron the Internet asshole.STOP pretending to be smarter than what you actually are.

You may DROP the pretense assclown.

ROFL.

Seriously dude, I hardly ever get topics from Left-Wing sites.

Read my stuff, it's usually original, I don't like plagiarism, and when I quote facts I give credit to the original sources.

Just because you have some issues with originality, don't project them onto me.

 

[Vast LWC]

We spend more because we have better training and equipment. Not to mention the highest paid soldiers in the world. I don't know how much the Chinese private gets paid but I'd bet you couldn't live on it. But you go ahead and cut our military by half,again, because that has already been done once since the end of the cold war. But see who attacks us when you have done that. As long as I'm Alive I'll fight to keep a strong military thank you.

Yes, it was cut, by Bush I,

and, as I'm sure you well know, it was raised right back up again by Bush II and company.

To a high of 535 Billion in 2006, staying around 500 Billion until this year.

U.S. Military Spending, 1946–2009 — Infoplease.com

And those figures DO NOT INCLUDE THE IRAQ AND AFGHAN WARS.

Which are about a Trillion dollars so far, not including all the secondary and tertiary costs, like continuing veterans' health outlays that result directly from the wars.

COSTOFWAR.COM - The Cost of War

 

[SFC Ollie]

We spend more because we have better training and equipment. Not to mention the highest paid soldiers in the world. I don't know how much the Chinese private gets paid but I'd bet you couldn't live on it. But you go ahead and cut our military by half,again, because that has already been done once since the end of the cold war. But see who attacks us when you have done that. As long as I'm Alive I'll fight to keep a strong military thank you.

Yes, it was cut, by Bush I,

and, as I'm sure you well know, it was raised right back up again by Bush II and company.

To a high of 535 Billion in 2006, staying around 500 Billion until this year.

U.S. Military Spending, 1946–2009 — Infoplease.com

And those figures DO NOT INCLUDE THE IRAQ AND AFGHAN WARS.

Which are about a Trillion dollars so far, not including all the secondary and tertiary costs, like continuing veterans' health outlays that result directly from the wars.

COSTOFWAR.COM - The Cost of War

Gee half of Obamas spendulus plan...........

 

[Meister]

C-.....and he still did better than Kerry in school.
Look my pick wouldn't have been Bush, but we have to vote for someone. Al Gore would have screwed up 9-11 as Clinton did after the 93' Trade Center bombing....like he did with all the terrorists attacks we had under the Clinton administration. Clinton downsized our military, and fragmented our intell. Yeah Gore would have been the prize. Gove me a break. At least Bush had balls, unlike the 2 candidates that ran against him. Don't throw Iraq on me, because I wouldn't have pulled the trigger on that one, and don't pull that Bush spent too much....yeah he did, and I bitched about that, too.But, Obama spending is way over the top, and he isn'rt going top slow down with the cap and tax crap that is going to be hitting the fan next year.
I know you won't complain about that at all, because it's OooooooooooooBaaaaaaama.

The people responsible for the '93 bombing were caught and prosecuted, and are currently in jail serving time.

It was Bush I who started the downsizing of our military.

Bush had "balls" like a professional wrestler has "balls". What you want in a president is someone who thinks first and then acts, not a fucking idiot with a hard-on for invading Iraq.

You wouldn't have pulled the trigger on Iraq? OK, did you vote for Bush AGAIN in 2004? Yes, you did.

And Bush spent WAY more than Obama. 1.2 Trillion dollars of this year's deficit was already alotted by January 7th of this year, as per the CBO report at the time.

Which means that the current deficit of 1.3 Trillion dollars is actually LOWER than it was at the beginning of the year, once you take away the stimulus money.

The federal budget for 2008 was 3 Trillion dollars.

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/100xx/doc10014/Historicaltables09Jun09web.XLS

The federal budget for 2009 was 3.1 Trillion Dollars.

2009 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The increase is due entirely to a 40 Billion dollar increase in Social Security, a 20 Billion dollar increase in Medicare, and a 40 Billion dollar increase in Unemployment Benefits.

Said budget was proposed, as it always is, by the previous president. George W Bush.

In other words, Obama hasn't spent any money at all that was not already being spent before he got into office.

You are talking about the 2008, and 2009 budgets where the democrats controlled the Congress, and the Senate....right. I see....
The 93' WTC bombing was a Bin Laden pet project....did you have selective memory on that. What did Clinton do? Isn't that where he bombed an asprin factory?
Bush I may have down sized the military to some extent, but Clinton really dumbed it down in his years in the office. Also, let the CIA, and FBI fragment to where the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing. Worked out real well when the terrorists attacked on 9-11....all there was, was the finger pointing.
When I said Bush had balls I wasn't referring to iraq, I agree with you on that, I'm talking about going after the terrorists, something that the democrats lacked the prior 8 years. Sorry you can't admit to it, and I know you can't.
Yes, I voted for Bush because I couldn't bring myself to vote for a rodent with the name of John Kerry, and I do laugh at you for voting for him.
I didn't agree with Bush on spending, and the Iraq war, he was better than those other 2 goofballs your party had put up....you were begging to get beat in 2000, and 2004.

 

[Maple]

With the economy in the state that it is, I just can't believe that Congress can't control themselves.

Why is it hard to believe? The American people won't hold them accountable for it so of course they're going to do it.

Most of the American people have no right to complain about govt spending, they have not done very well on managing their money either.

You can speak for yourself., I have done quite well managing my own finances,and don't spend money that I do not have in my hand. No credit cards either nor do I own a house I can't afford. The government needs to take lessons on how to manage money and I would be glad to give it.

Who were the Republicans in the senate that voted for this???? The house repubs all stood against this added monstrosity, but there obviously were some in the senate who voted for it. I am really pissed at them even more so than I am at the dems, I expect this from the democrats, but not the Republicans, this takes the cake. They increase the budget to 4 times the rate of inflation, absolute insanity, 5000 more earmarks. I want the names of those Republican senators.. What are we going to have to do, go up there and physically remove these morons from their seats??? Anyone wonder why the tea party's, you don't have to look far.

 

[Maple]

These people are assholes. Fire them all!!!!!!

Senate to vote on $1.1 trillion spending bill - Yahoo! Singapore News

The Senate Budget Committee's senior Republican, Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, pushed the creation of a bipartisan deficit reduction task force as a condition for raising the debt ceiling to near $14 trillion. "If we don't do this, we'll be passing on to our kids an insolvent country, which basically means they're going to confront massive inflation or massive tax increases," he said on "Fox News Sunday

 

[sealybobo]

Start calling your Senators and tell them to go along with the majority parties program. We elected them to get healthcare reform. We elected them to increase labor wages and bring jobs home. We elected them to cut wasteful defense spending. We elected them to stop funding the war for profit. We elected them to get the bankers under control. We elected them to make trade agreements fair for American workers. We elected them to end the unfair tax breaks to the rich.

The GOP run government cut a lot of good social programs and still increased spending. Amazing. Now after 8 years of ignoring the citizens and countries infrastructure, you want the government to get frugal? During a recession too? And the bankers are the ones getting most of the handouts? Don't you smell a bank robbery? But still you defend the mega corporations that own us and run our government as a shadow government? Oh yea, I'm a conspicacy theorist. NOT! Its all fact. Yet you defend the bankers. Why?

And you don't want the government to reign in the mega corporations, oil companies and healthcare giants who don't manufacture jack shit. They are just money skimming middle men. And remember Bush let the oil companies fake an increase in oils value and got $4 a gallon from you. Kiss your tax break goodbye.

 

[Big Black Dog]

I guess that Congress is going to shit that 1.1 trillion dollars. Where else they going to get it?

 

[sealybobo]

These people are assholes. Fire them all!!!!!!

Senate to vote on $1.1 trillion spending bill - Yahoo! Singapore News

The Senate Budget Committee's senior Republican, Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, pushed the creation of a bipartisan deficit reduction task force as a condition for raising the debt ceiling to near $14 trillion. "If we don't do this, we'll be passing on to our kids an insolvent country, which basically means they're going to confront massive inflation or massive tax increases," he said on "Fox News Sunday

See, we can get Lieberman's vote when we need it. And next we will pay off a few Republicans to go along with our liberal agenda. We have an even bigger majority than GW had for 6 years. This is only year one. We will get this country running again folks.

If the people that want the Dems to fail would just shut the fuck up and get back to work, we'd be even better off. Remember we rallied around Bush after 9-11? And the economy got better. Of course labor didn't get to share any of the record profits they made 04-07, but whatever. And have any of you gotten any bailout? Who's getting it? The rich. The bankers. Time for the rich and the corporations to start paying their fair share. What they paid back in the 90's. They say they can't afford it? Of course. What else would you expect them to say? Wake up! And unions need to go back up to 25% of American labor. Its around 9% now? is that right? Labor got left behind. Only Democrats create a middle class. Hoover and Bush don't.

Reagan was a fake. He ran us into debt. It was HW Bush's raising taxes that created the 90's economy. It cost him a second term, but he was right to do it.

 

[Maple]

Start calling your Senators and tell them to go along with the majority parties program. We elected them to get healthcare reform. We elected them to increase labor wages and bring jobs home. We elected them to cut wasteful defense spending. We elected them to stop funding the war for profit. We elected them to get the bankers under control. We elected them to make trade agreements fair for American workers. We elected them to end the unfair tax breaks to the rich.

The GOP run government cut a lot of good social programs and still increased spending. Amazing. Now after 8 years of ignoring the citizens and countries infrastructure, you want the government to get frugal? During a recession too? And the bankers are the ones getting most of the handouts? Don't you smell a bank robbery? But still you defend the mega corporations that own us and run our government as a shadow government? Oh yea, I'm a conspicacy theorist. NOT! Its all fact. Yet you defend the bankers. Why?

And you don't want the government to reign in the mega corporations, oil companies and healthcare giants who don't manufacture jack shit. They are just money skimming middle men. And remember Bush let the oil companies fake an increase in oils value and got $4 a gallon from you. Kiss your tax break goodbye.

With 10% unemployment and rising a debt of approximately 13 trillion dollars who the hell do you think is going to pay for your social programs, seally bobo??? The cookie monster??? Get freggin real.

 

[sealybobo]

I guess that Congress is going to shit that 1.1 trillion dollars. Where else they going to get it?

The rich. The corporations. They got 8 years of tax breaks. Didn't they?

 

[Maple]

These people are assholes. Fire them all!!!!!!

Senate to vote on $1.1 trillion spending bill - Yahoo! Singapore News

The Senate Budget Committee's senior Republican, Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, pushed the creation of a bipartisan deficit reduction task force as a condition for raising the debt ceiling to near $14 trillion. "If we don't do this, we'll be passing on to our kids an insolvent country, which basically means they're going to confront massive inflation or massive tax increases," he said on "Fox News Sunday

See, we can get Lieberman's vote when we need it. And next we will pay off a few Republicans to go along with our liberal agenda. We have an even bigger majority than GW had for 6 years. This is only year one. We will get this country running again folks.

If the people that want the Dems to fail would just shut the fuck up and get back to work, we'd be even better off. Remember we rallied around Bush after 9-11? And the economy got better. Of course labor didn't get to share any of the record profits they made 04-07, but whatever. And have any of you gotten any bailout? Who's getting it? The rich. The bankers. Time for the rich and the corporations to start paying their fair share. What they paid back in the 90's. They say they can't afford it? Of course. What else would you expect them to say? Wake up! And unions need to go back up to 25% of American labor. Its around 9% now? is that right? Labor got left behind. Only Democrats create a middle class. Hoover and Bush don't.

Reagan was a fake. He ran us into debt. It was HW Bush's raising taxes that created the 90's economy. It cost him a second term, but he was right to do it.

Good greif, if there is anyone in need of a basic econ class it's gotta be you. Maybe we can all pass the hat to pay for your tuition.

That middle class is shrinking bobo, with the socialist agenda of your party the middle class is being reduced not expanded, socialism = shared misery. It's anything but a leg up.


" The problem with socialism, is that you eventually run out of other people's money. " Margaret Thatcher.

" When the democrats start talking about taxing the rich, the middle class needs to run for cover." Fred Thompson