House GOP Targeting Title X, Pushing Abstinence Only Programs

[Inthemiddle]

If the low income people can afford to buy beer and pot they can buy a pack of condoms.

This is kinda stuff makes it easier and easier for idiots on the left wing to do crap they do. Making blanket accusations against people you've never met isn't going to convince anyone of anything. At best, you'll get closed minded extreme right wingers who already to agree with you to repeat their agreement.

 

[Avatar4321]

If the low income people can afford to buy beer and pot they can buy a pack of condoms.

This is kinda stuff makes it easier and easier for idiots on the left wing to do crap they do. Making blanket accusations against people you've never met isn't going to convince anyone of anything. At best, you'll get closed minded extreme right wingers who already to agree with you to repeat their agreement.

What exactly, about his point, did you disagree with?

 

[Inthemiddle]

Please explain what is extreme about:

1) Not wanting to buy another person's birth control, and
2) Suggesting that people who don't want to have children shouldn't have sex.

Number two. Sexuality is a part of human nature. If you think you're going to convince masses of people to just stop having sex for the rest of their lives, then you're living in an extreme fantasy land.

 

[Avatar4321]

Please explain what is extreme about:

1) Not wanting to buy another person's birth control, and
2) Suggesting that people who don't want to have children shouldn't have sex.

Number two. Sexuality is a part of human nature. If you think you're going to convince masses of people to just stop having sex for the rest of their lives, then you're living in an extreme fantasy land.

Who says they have to stop for the rest of their lives? Who says they have to stop period? They simply need to take responsibility for their actions.

 

[Inthemiddle]

What exactly, about his point, did you disagree with?

He has no point. All he's done is make blanket accusations about masses of people he's never met. A person on the opposite side of the political persuasion may as well say that all rich people are manipulative thieving bastards who "earned" their wealth by abusing the honest intentions of good people. Both suggestions are wild accusations that people just hold onto because it makes them feel better about themselves to find an excuse to hate someone else.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Who says they have to stop for the rest of their lives? Who says they have to stop period? They simply need to take responsibility for their actions.

You did. If you have a poor person who cannot afford healthcare on their own, even to get their own birth control prescription or condoms (and let's face it, condoms are fairly expensive to use on a regular basis) then you're saying they should not have sex, period. And it comes dangerously close to suggesting that only certain people are entitled to the privilege of sexual activity.

 

[Inthemiddle]

That isn't a reason.
Maybe we should cut funding for out of wedlock births so as to discourage them?

Somehow, making Medicare funding available to people based on marital status seems a little....stupidly extremist to me. Not to mention, it's probably unconstitutional. I'm sure there's an ACLU lawyer out there somewhere who could successfully argue that it would be a violation of the separation of church and state.

 

[uscitizen]

They just need to pay Bristol Palin another 1/4 million to promote abstinance only

 

[uscitizen]

Who says they have to stop for the rest of their lives? Who says they have to stop period? They simply need to take responsibility for their actions.

You did. If you have a poor person who cannot afford healthcare on their own, even to get their own birth control prescription or condoms (and let's face it, condoms are fairly expensive to use on a regular basis) then you're saying they should not have sex, period. And it comes dangerously close to suggesting that only certain people are entitled to the privilege of sexual activity.

Interesting that Medicare will pay for viagra and such...

 

[The Rabbi]

Who says they have to stop for the rest of their lives? Who says they have to stop period? They simply need to take responsibility for their actions.

You did. If you have a poor person who cannot afford healthcare on their own, even to get their own birth control prescription or condoms (and let's face it, condoms are fairly expensive to use on a regular basis) then you're saying they should not have sex, period. And it comes dangerously close to suggesting that only certain people are entitled to the privilege of sexual activity.

Why should poor people not be able to get birth control prescriptions. These things aren't expensive.
If people took responsibility for their actions this wouldn't be an issue. As it is, we are giving people a pass on adulthood and letting them act irresponsible because they know we will pay for it.
Screw that.

 

[uscitizen]

"Screw that. "

And therein lies the problem.....

 

[Avatar4321]

Who says they have to stop for the rest of their lives? Who says they have to stop period? They simply need to take responsibility for their actions.

You did. If you have a poor person who cannot afford healthcare on their own, even to get their own birth control prescription or condoms (and let's face it, condoms are fairly expensive to use on a regular basis) then you're saying they should not have sex, period. And it comes dangerously close to suggesting that only certain people are entitled to the privilege of sexual activity.

Actually, No i simply suggested they use self control. Something that isnt as difficult as youd like to pretend.

 

[uscitizen]

Who says they have to stop for the rest of their lives? Who says they have to stop period? They simply need to take responsibility for their actions.

You did. If you have a poor person who cannot afford healthcare on their own, even to get their own birth control prescription or condoms (and let's face it, condoms are fairly expensive to use on a regular basis) then you're saying they should not have sex, period. And it comes dangerously close to suggesting that only certain people are entitled to the privilege of sexual activity.

Actually, No i simply suggested they use self control. Something that isnt as difficult as youd like to pretend.

Self control? in America? lololololololol

 

[Inthemiddle]

Why should poor people not be able to get birth control prescriptions. These things aren't expensive.

Well, if they are poor, and rely on Medicare, but you take that away from them, they aren't going to have insurance to pay for a doctor's visit. And even though birth control might not be very expensive (to you) it might still be outside any reasonable budgetary measures they can make.

If people took responsibility for their actions this wouldn't be an issue. As it is, we are giving people a pass on adulthood and letting them act irresponsible because they know we will pay for it.
Screw that.

Again more blanket accusations. You seem to think that you know everything. And that's the kind of mentality that plays right into the hands of the left wingers. All they have to do is hold up this kind of stuff up as an example of extremist right wing ideals, and centrists, moderates, and progressives suddenly think that Nancy Pelosi is at least the lesser of two evils. That's right, I'll say it again. The stuff you're spewing makes even Nancy Pelosi look like the lesser of two evils for a great majority of people.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Actually, No i simply suggested they use self control. Something that isnt as difficult as youd like to pretend.

You know, that's too bad. I actually thought there was hope of a reasonable discussion here. But you don't seem very honest when you speak. You make extreme demands, and then try to water it down by saying "I'm just saying people should have self control." If you really think that, then you're quite ignorant of biology, and reality.

Nothing is going to be accomplished by people calling for the incredibly unrealistic, like telling people to stop having sex if you're poor. You can waste your time trying to beat this war drum. Or you could maybe help get something done, by focusing on something more reasonable.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why should poor people not be able to get birth control prescriptions. These things aren't expensive.

Well, if they are poor, and rely on Medicare, but you take that away from them, they aren't going to have insurance to pay for a doctor's visit. And even though birth control might not be very expensive (to you) it might still be outside any reasonable budgetary measures they can make.

If people took responsibility for their actions this wouldn't be an issue. As it is, we are giving people a pass on adulthood and letting them act irresponsible because they know we will pay for it.
Screw that.

Again more blanket accusations. You seem to think that you know everything. And that's the kind of mentality that plays right into the hands of the left wingers. All they have to do is hold up this kind of stuff up as an example of extremist right wing ideals, and centrists, moderates, and progressives suddenly think that Nancy Pelosi is at least the lesser of two evils. That's right, I'll say it again. The stuff you're spewing makes even Nancy Pelosi look like the lesser of two evils for a great majority of people.

And you accuse me of making blanket statements! Hah!
There are free clinics supported by contributions. There are free services offered by doctors etc. Quit believing that "poor" people are destitute. It is simply not true. "Poor people" in this country have their own apartments, televisions, cell phones, automobiles etc etc etc. There is plenty of disposable income out there for things they really need.
Nancy Pelosi probably looks like a wet dream for an idiot of your stripe.

 

[Conservative]

Please explain what is extreme about:

1) Not wanting to buy another person's birth control, and
2) Suggesting that people who don't want to have children shouldn't have sex.

You're going to pay for something either way. There are poor people in this country who require assistance. i know, you don't like it. They're lazy bums, yadayadayada. Sorry. That's just the way it is. The question is, which would you prefer to support: a poor lady's 3 children, or contraception for poor people and programs that provide sex education for teens?

No. Im not going to pay for it either way. Your whole premise is based on a lie.

It's his favorite tactic.

 

[Conservative]

I have you on ignore you fucking moron. So what? Are you going to pretend that the GOP actually supports PP? The same GOP who was willing to shut down the gov't over funding for PP?

You seem to respond to a lot of my posts, including this one, for having me on ignore... @ you.

Way to deflect. You whine that the GOP is doing stuff, you're own sources source contradicts you, and when presented with that little factiod, you promptly ignore it.

Way to be a little pussbot.

Jesus Christ you are a fucking idiot. I didn't ignore your little "factoid", did I? I responded to it, didn't I? And the only reason I saw your post was because I was signed out, but still had the page up; therefore, since I was not signed in, I saw your post. Once I saw that you were addressing me, I decided to respond. Since you've been told repeatedly that I have you on ignore, but continue to address me, I'd say that you are the one who can't get enough of me. Dumb. Ass.

you ignored it in your OP, dick-stain.

I like pissing you off... it's fun. And the fact that you can't stand not getting the last word in make your nonsense even funnier.

Did your parents have any children that lived?

 

[Inthemiddle]

There are free clinics supported by contributions.

Some places. Not everywhere, probably not even accessible to half the impoverished population.

There are free services offered by doctors etc.

Same as above.

Quit believing that "poor" people are destitute. It is simply not true. "Poor people" in this country have their own apartments, televisions, cell phones, automobiles etc etc etc.

Okay, so poor people aren't poor. Well that makes sense. Also, have you seen these apartments? TVs, automobiles, etc? How do you know they have them? How do you suppose they got them? It's alot more common to find a thrift store where you can buy a crappy but functional TV for $25, than a doctor who will see you for free, or to have a free clinic that will offer you doctor's services (especially one that isn't being funded by the government). Not to mention that those things still don't account for paying for the actual prescription. Nor account for those individuals for whom birth control is not a medically acceptable option.

There is plenty of disposable income out there for things they really need.

Again, you say this. But you're just saying it. It's an assumption you're making that you're blanketly laying out there.

Nancy Pelosi probably looks like a wet dream for an idiot of your stripe.

This is a good one and shows how far your blanket accusations get you. Anyone who disagrees with your extremist stance must be an idiot, pervert, and/or extreme leftist. Just for the record, I despise Nancy Pelosi. And my bodily functions are none of your business. Are you not capable of having some class and dignity in your discussion?

 

[del]

Here's the part of the Washington Post piece the HuffPo nimrod 'forgot' to mention...
House Republicans jockey to influence the next budget - The Washington Post

yeah... sounds like the GOP is all hands on deck to support this bill

crickets...

yeah, I thought you'd ignore facts that contradict your partisan hackery, you little liberal pussbot.

I have you on ignore you fucking moron. So what? Are you going to pretend that the GOP actually supports PP? The same GOP who was willing to shut down the gov't over funding for PP?

um, if you have him on ignore, how did you read this the second time he posted it?