House GOP Says It's Too Late To Pass An Unemployment Extension

[LordBrownTrout]

If you don't think the extension should be passed, then make your case.
Don't just say - oops, too late. Don't bother.

THAT pisses people off.

Is the GOP just hell-bent on destroying itself?

Let them eat cake.

Govt has eaten all of our cake. Enjoy the breadcrumbs. UI benefits should be cut off after 6 months.

 

[nodoginnafight]

If you don't think the extension should be passed, then make your case.
Don't just say - oops, too late. Don't bother.

THAT pisses people off.

Is the GOP just hell-bent on destroying itself?

Let them eat cake.

Govt has eaten all of our cake. Enjoy the breadcrumbs. UI benefits should be cut off after 6 months.

That's fine - if that is what the House GOP feels is the right thing to do, then do it. And make your case and explain why.

If they just say, "we aren't interested enough to even discuss it" then I believe there will be political ramifications.

I'm not arguing the merits of the extension (because no one was given the opportunity to have that debate) what I am questioning is the wisdom in taking a position in a flippant and unconcerned way.

The GOP response will probably be "aw, the liberal media made it sound worse than it really was." Now that's been effective with the faithful - but you've lost two in a row (to a little-known black guy named Barack no less) so maybe it's time to consider that the "faithful" aren't enough to win with. Maybe it's time to consider expanding the base a little bit.

This doesn't help.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Let them eat cake.

Govt has eaten all of our cake. Enjoy the breadcrumbs. UI benefits should be cut off after 6 months.

That's fine - if that is what the House GOP feels is the right thing to do, then do it. And make your case and explain why.

If they just say, "we aren't interested enough to even discuss it" then I believe there will be political ramifications.

I'm not arguing the merits of the extension (because no one was given the opportunity to have that debate) what I am questioning is the wisdom in taking a position in a flippant and unconcerned way.

The GOP response will probably be "aw, the liberal media made it sound worse than it really was." Now that's been effective with the faithful - but you've lost two in a row (to a little-known black guy named Barack no less) so maybe it's time to consider that the "faithful" aren't enough to win with. Maybe it's time to consider expanding the base a little bit.

This doesn't help.

Im not basing that number of 6 months on any previous number. I think it's a reasonable amount of time for someone to find employment.

 

[Avorysuds]

The fact that it has to be extended again should tell you something about how bad welfare has failed our society as a whole.

 

[Moonglow]

Us self employed have unemployment benefits like, trash diving, savings depletion and scrap metal theft.. What a country....

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Once again it is necessary to remind people the perils and culture destroying "no strings attached" handouts by the government....

Washington DC....

Detroit, MI......

And the leftist crowning achievment...Pruit Igoe...

 

[nodoginnafight]

Govt has eaten all of our cake. Enjoy the breadcrumbs. UI benefits should be cut off after 6 months.

That's fine - if that is what the House GOP feels is the right thing to do, then do it. And make your case and explain why.

If they just say, "we aren't interested enough to even discuss it" then I believe there will be political ramifications.

I'm not arguing the merits of the extension (because no one was given the opportunity to have that debate) what I am questioning is the wisdom in taking a position in a flippant and unconcerned way.

The GOP response will probably be "aw, the liberal media made it sound worse than it really was." Now that's been effective with the faithful - but you've lost two in a row (to a little-known black guy named Barack no less) so maybe it's time to consider that the "faithful" aren't enough to win with. Maybe it's time to consider expanding the base a little bit.

This doesn't help.

Im not basing that number of 6 months on any previous number. I think it's a reasonable amount of time for someone to find employment.

Under normal conditions I'd tend to agree. I think the legitimate debate is over whether our current economic conditions merit more time. But, again, it's not the merits of the argument that I question here - it's the lack of discussion and the apparent disregard for having a discussion that I think is not going to play well.

 

[Redfish]

Us self employed have unemployment benefits like, trash diving, savings depletion and scrap metal theft.. What a country....

We also get to pay double for SS, and get to send in quarterly tax payments. But, I would take self employment over working for someone else even with the downsides.

you can find good bronze in cemetaries----------

 

[Stephanie]

The fact that it has to be extended again should tell you something about how bad welfare has failed our society as a whole.

that, and just how bad things really ARE under this Obama regime and their pretty slogan of, summer of recovery

SIX YEARS LATER

 

[Avatar4321]

Why do we need to extend it beyond 2 years?

 

[nodoginnafight]

Why do we need to extend it beyond 2 years?

Good question - too bad the House won't be holding a conversation on that

 

[LeftofLeft]

More GOP Screwing of the Middle Class. Boehner, "lawmakers shouldn't bother". Wow!, really? Shouldn't bother?

WASHINGTON -- Republicans in the House of Representatives say it's just too late to pass legislation restoring unemployment benefits to the 2 million workers who've missed out since December.

The Senate advanced a bill reauthorizing the benefits in a procedural vote on Thursday, setting up passage as soon as next week. Then the ball would be in House Speaker John Boehner's (R-Ohio) court.

Boehner has voiced opposition to the bill. Republicans on the House Ways and Means Committee, which oversees unemployment insurance, elaborated Thursday on Boehner's recent argument that the Senate measure would be "unworkable" even if Congress approved it -- so lawmakers shouldn't bother.

House GOP Says It's Too Late To Pass An Unemployment Extension

A middle class gets screwed when unemployment is up. Agreed? Democrats pat themselves on the back for increasing/extending unemployment and food stamps. Can we get some leaders that enact policies that positively result in more Americans going back to work, more new businesses being created, and more people getting off of food stamps and welfare and into good jobs with real wages? By real wages, in a healthy economy, low unemployment, businesses are competing for good labor with higher wages and benefits. Contrast that in a poor economy where Democrats trot out the minimum wage debate to earn some short term bumps? When are Democrats going to put high paying jobs as a priority? They Keystone Pipeline is a shining example on where Democrats place job creation. They would rather appease their environmental extremists base before helping the Middle Class.

 

[nodoginnafight]

They Keystone Pipeline is a shining example on where Democrats place job creation. They would rather appease their environmental extremists base before helping the Middle Class.

You need to check that one out more closely. Some temporary jobs, with an enormous cost to taxpayers to subsidize some oil company in producing products that they are going to sell overseas.

Yeah, that's the answer to all our problems.

 

[R.D.]

Why do we need to extend it beyond 2 years?

Good question - too bad the House won't be holding a conversation on that

Boy, you are stubborn

"We have always said that we’re willing to look at extending emergency unemployment benefits again, if Washington Democrats can come up with a plan that is fiscally-responsible, and gets to the root of the problem by helping to create more private-sector jobs," Boehner said in a statement. "There is no evidence that the bill being rammed through the Senate by Leader [Harry] Reid meets that test, and according to these state directors, the bill is also simply unworkable. Frankly, a better use of the Senate’s time would be taking up and passing the dozens of House-passed jobs bills still awaiting action.”

When asked about the unemployment benefits deal on Friday, the speaker responded, "You mean the one that can't be implemented?"...

The National Association of State Workforce Agencies, a nonprofit that advocates for state labor departments, said Wednesday that the Senate bill would be hard for state agencies to deal with. It would reauthorize federal unemployment benefits that lapsed at the end of December, making 2 million long-term jobless eligible for the checks they could have received since then. But the bill would restore the benefits only until June, giving states just two months to gear up the system -- apparently not enough time for some.

"Most states are struggling with antiquated and rigid computer systems -- averaging 25 years old -- thus making it very hard to implement program changes quickly and effectively," the workforce agency association said in a letter to Senate leaders on its website.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

In my opinion how unemployment should be constructed:

1) Unemployment NEVER extends beyond 6 months.
2) After 6 months, if person is still unemployed they are referred to AFDC to apply for Food Stamps etc.

Lots of and lots of folks feel like they are entitled to unemployment. They believe it is paid by the former employer so screw them. They would feel differently going to the grocery store with a SNAP card.
Good incentive to find a job

 

[edthecynic]

Good. They extended it far too long.

what is unemployment benefits up to now, 3 -4 years or is it a "forever" bennie for the libersucking shiftless twerps on the left ?

Your typical NO-Information voter!
26 weeks.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Why do we need to extend it beyond 2 years?

Good question - too bad the House won't be holding a conversation on that

Boy, you are stubborn

"We have always said that we’re willing to look at extending emergency unemployment benefits again, if Washington Democrats can come up with a plan that is fiscally-responsible, and gets to the root of the problem by helping to create more private-sector jobs," Boehner said in a statement. "There is no evidence that the bill being rammed through the Senate by Leader [Harry] Reid meets that test, and according to these state directors, the bill is also simply unworkable. Frankly, a better use of the Senate’s time would be taking up and passing the dozens of House-passed jobs bills still awaiting action.”

When asked about the unemployment benefits deal on Friday, the speaker responded, "You mean the one that can't be implemented?"...

The National Association of State Workforce Agencies, a nonprofit that advocates for state labor departments, said Wednesday that the Senate bill would be hard for state agencies to deal with. It would reauthorize federal unemployment benefits that lapsed at the end of December, making 2 million long-term jobless eligible for the checks they could have received since then. But the bill would restore the benefits only until June, giving states just two months to gear up the system -- apparently not enough time for some.

"Most states are struggling with antiquated and rigid computer systems -- averaging 25 years old -- thus making it very hard to implement program changes quickly and effectively," the workforce agency association said in a letter to Senate leaders on its website.

Yup I'm stubborn - guilty as charged.

I'm not sure "we can't get your name in the computer in just two months" is gonna be a good enough substitute for a real conversation over the issue for a whole lot of people.

Wouldn't be for me - but to each his or her own.

 

[R.D.]

Good question - too bad the House won't be holding a conversation on that

Boy, you are stubborn

When asked about the unemployment benefits deal on Friday, the speaker responded, "You mean the one that can't be implemented?"...

The National Association of State Workforce Agencies, a nonprofit that advocates for state labor departments, said Wednesday that the Senate bill would be hard for state agencies to deal with. It would reauthorize federal unemployment benefits that lapsed at the end of December, making 2 million long-term jobless eligible for the checks they could have received since then. But the bill would restore the benefits only until June, giving states just two months to gear up the system -- apparently not enough time for some.

"Most states are struggling with antiquated and rigid computer systems -- averaging 25 years old -- thus making it very hard to implement program changes quickly and effectively," the workforce agency association said in a letter to Senate leaders on its website.

Yup I'm stubborn - guilty as charged.

I'm not sure "we can't get your name in the computer in just two months" is gonna be a good enough substitute for a real conversation over the issue for a whole lot of people.

Wouldn't be for me - but to each his or her own.

Fair enough.

But does this put an end to your constant assertion he is not having the debate?

 

[nodoginnafight]

Boy, you are stubborn

Yup I'm stubborn - guilty as charged.

I'm not sure "we can't get your name in the computer in just two months" is gonna be a good enough substitute for a real conversation over the issue for a whole lot of people.

Wouldn't be for me - but to each his or her own.

Fair enough.

But does this put an end to your constant assertion he is not having the debate?

No - it underscores it imho.

"We can't get your name in the computer system in two months" is not a debate - I see it as a pretty lame cop out.

 

[edthecynic]

Why do we need to extend it beyond 2 years?

Yet another NO-Information voter!