House Dems pass middle class tax cuts

[Synthaholic]

Oh, it's well beyond that.... his prior post was that since people don;t want to pay more taxes, they should stop eating Gov't inspected food, driving on roads and putting money in banks.

This guy's nuts.

That wasn't me, moron.

He's already proven he has trouble with reading comprehension, it shouldn't be a surprise he can't even bother to figure out who said what.

I need to remind myself that when I come to this site, I'm often trying to have conversations with people who just aren't educated or forced to use their brain for any type of critical thinking. I need to dumb down what I'm saying so they can keep up with the conversation.

It's like this is the reject board. Too stupid to make a decent wingnut argument on the other boards? Come to USMB, where your fellow knuckledraggers and mouth-breathers have found a home...or cave.

 

[Synthaholic]

Hmm.

Let the Bush tax cuts expire.

Let capital gains go to the highest in the world.

Wonder if that will convince companies to hire and expand??

The Govt will get more money but it sure won't be helping the economy or job creation.

Simple really. The proof will be in the putting and 2012 will look like the Wild Wild West.

Funny, but do you recall the massive growth in the 90s? Last I recall, it wasn't the Bush tax rates back then...

YES, that was because of the dot.com artificial growth. It BURST also causing a recession!

You do realize the reckless house practices that lead to the mortgage crisis were started during Clinton years, he was a direct beneficiary of the artificial housing boom!

But I love how you will give Clinton all the credit in the world for a great economy, but during the Bush years the economy grew and unemployment was low, until the mortgage bubble burst that is!

What was artificial about it?

 

[daveman]

I agree. They should all expire.

What's keeping you from sending more of your money to the government?

Hint: Nothing.

What's keeping the landlord for kicking a tenant out for not paying the rent?

Hint: Paying the rent.

Analogy fail.

You and the rest of the leftist taxpayers here presumably do indeed pay taxes...rent, in your analogy.

What's keeping you from sending more of your money to the government?

 

[daveman]

What's keeping you from sending more of your money to the government?

Hint: Nothing.

What's keeping the landlord for kicking a tenant out for not paying the rent?

Hint: Paying the rent.

daveman works for the government. that's the best part.

And I pay taxes on what I earn. Did you have a point, or is this just another flailing attempt to paint the military as a product of socialism?

 

[daveman]

If the Bush deficits are so bad, what does that make the much larger Obama deficits?

It's simple. Bush's deficits are bad. Obama's deficits are good.

Right, USMB lefties?

90% of the Obama deficits are Bush deficits.

See? I was right!

 

[Synthaholic]

What's keeping the landlord for kicking a tenant out for not paying the rent?

Hint: Paying the rent.

daveman works for the government. that's the best part.

And I pay taxes on what I earn. Did you have a point, or is this just another flailing attempt to paint the military as a product of socialism?

Does the taxpayer subsidize most of your taxes for you, also?

 

[daveman]

more details on the repubs running up the debt

Here are the only OFFICAL budget numbers from the CBO - (United States Congressional Budget Office):

2000 - 236 Billion SURPLUS under Clinton
2001 - 128 Billion SURPLUS under Clinton
2002 - 158 Billion deficit under Bush with republican congress
2003 - 378 Billion deficit under Bush with republican congress
2004 - 413 Billion deficit under Bush with republican congress
2005 - 318 Billion deficit under Bush with republican congress
2006 - 248 Billion deficit under Bush with republican congress
2007 - 161 Billion deficit under Bush with republican congress
2008 - 459 Billion deficit under Bush with Dem congress
2009 - 1.4 Trillion deficit under Obama/Bush - (Bush was pres the first 4 months of this budget which includes his 700 billion in bailouts and the expected 600 billion deficit which was most of the 1.4 trillion)

Source : CBO Historical Budget Data
http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/108xx/doc10871/historicaltables.pdf


Reagan increased our debt an average of 24% yearly...he tripled it from 934B to 2.6T (189%)
Bush increased our debt an average of 11% yearly...he doubled it from 5.7 to 10.6 trillion (91%)
Obama increased our debt 16% in his first year from 10.6 to 12.3 trillion (to stop a great depression)

(Data from the US Treasury Bureau of Public Debt - Government - Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application))

FACTS SHOW THAT REPUBLICANS DO THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THEY CLAIM...THEY CREATE RECORD DEFICITS AND RECORD DEBTS AND BLAME IT ON DEMOCRATS
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Bush left a 1.2 trillion deficit for Obama.

(Source 2: Congressional Budget Office - Annual Budget and Economic Report and testimony before Congress on Jan 8, 2009) (Declares a 1.2 trillion deficit for fiscal year 2009 ---2 weeks before obama takes office)
http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9958/01-08-Outlook_Testimony.pdf

blaming Obama doesnt change the facts.

You mean like the fact it was the Democratic-controlled Congress who passed the spending bills (with Senator Obama's vote, unless he voted "present") that left Obama a 1.2 trillion deficit?

So what would you have recommended - specifically - that the Democratic Congress not fund?

The war. You know, like they told you they opposed...but kept funding it anyway.

But, it seems they either lack the courage of their convictions, or else they purposely lied to you to get you to vote for them. Which do you suppose it is?

 

[Dr.House]

Man up, libs...

Rip up your tax refund checks...

Better yet, when you get to the line that states the amount you are owed from Uncle Sam on your tax returns, just write in zero... (Pretend it stands for "0"bama)

 

[daveman]

They did not give a tax cut to the middle class they extended it.

But this is a common ploy used by liberals to color the truth.

Kinda like telling people the Dems are actively raising taxes on the wealthy, rather than just letting a REPUBLICAN-enacted tax cut expire.

Why not? Check out the military. How many are millionaires? If the rich are not going to protect the country that made them millionaires then they should pay for the right to live here. How much is a soldier's life worth?

The middle class gives the lives of their children. The rich should at least give up a mansion. Use four instead of five.

I would think that would be obvious. Is the Republicans base really so brainwashed?

My parents didn't give me...I volunteered.

So, it looks like your whole stupid point is shot out of the saddle.

 

[daveman]

daveman works for the government. that's the best part.

And I pay taxes on what I earn. Did you have a point, or is this just another flailing attempt to paint the military as a product of socialism?

Does the taxpayer subsidize most of your taxes for you, also?

Only so far as my pay and benefits (which I earn) come from tax dollars.

 

[jillian]

Stupid libtards didn't get enough of a message on election night huh?

It has no chance of getting passed in the Senate! Filbuster anyone? Look they needs to compromise on it and they didn't, now they will feel the wrath! Setting the mark at $1 million, when they keep saying lets raise the tax on millionaires, why then do they toss in people who make $750K under a million?

Even if $1 mil was too high for them, most Americans (including this one) would accept $750K!

why do you care if people earning over $250,000 a year go back to paying what they paid during the prosperous years under clinton?

i think the rightwingnuts are getting the wrong message from the election, which means they're going to get their butts kicked again in two years.

arrogance does that.

I'll take clinton and republican control of both houses. no problem.

which clinton?

you're not going to get the senate if mcconnell keeps acting like a jackass... and if the right keeps nominating nutbars like angle and o'connell and company. heck, you should have had the senate this time around.

just sayin'